Should You Buy a Range Rover? (2002-2012 L322)
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Who else hates huge iPads on the dashboard to control everything in new cars?
We ain't old like u
I do
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ME!!!
Typical old people they aren't hard to use there easier and look nicer
I love owning good quality older cats; Jaguar or Range Rover. Buy a good one, cheap . Over the years you’ll not regret the costs.
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Great content as always, thanks for keeping it simple and straight,
BIG thumbs up!
Thank you for an excellent review Matt and words of wisdom when looking for a used car. I will bear this in mind.
Hi Matt you forgot to mention keep well away if it has budget tyres. Anyone prepared to skimp on the bits where it’s your only contact with the road most likely skimped everywhere else.
Preach! Mismatched Linglong Landwind specials are a definite warning sign. It speaks volumes of the last owner.
That's actually a really good tip. Yeah, anyone who skimps on tyres is a dick; even when I had a very old car, I bought Pirellis or Michellins, and the rest of my car was totally serviced and repaired if anything broke. I got top dollar when I sold it.
Great review, very instructive !
Glad to see you do a video on the L322, knew it was only a matter of time! This is definitely the one I'd go for if I was on the market for a Range Rover, I think the styling still looks really good.
I bought one of these after your last video, went for a long l322. Love the car and appreciate that advice that helped me buy one of these
Fantastic Video Matt. Really enjoyed it and echos my thoughts on the L322 which I love very much.
Had my l322 3.6 for nearly 12 months after I bit the bullet after watching your other videos apart from a new battery it's been great and reliable. Part of me wishes I had the 4.2 supercharged as I've only done 1500 miles in a year .but I do like the auxiliary heater on remote when I get up a 3.30 am which I'd miss on the petrol version .keep up with the great videos.
Once again, great honest video. I’ve been considering one of these for a few months, now after your review I’m certain this is what I’m after. Thanks Matt for your content, it’s factual humours and well received by many. Clearly.
Keep up the good work.👍🏼
Had my 2011 5.0 S/C V8 for 5 years - 35k, mainly just normal maintenance items apart from the air compressor, front air struts, and heated seat ventilation (no one serviced the seat filters which caused the issue!). It has been the best car I have owned and will change it very reluctantly!
Spot on review again, and the 'generalisations' are on the money!!
Matt you shoukd be given your own show, very practical advice, brilliant comparisons. It gives a very good idea of what to look for,keep it up.
Another great video Matt. Had my 2010 5.0 supercharged LPG converted Autobiography for nearly 3 years now and still absolutely love it. I average the equivalent of 30 mpg and still have the 500 horses grin from ear to ear every time I step on the loud pedal. Thought about selling it a few times but nothing else out there which will do what this does. Also my local RR specialist reckons I'm still better with this than the L405 which they seem to be seeing quite a few issues with. Anyway keep up the good work!
Great vids, thanks for advice 👍
Your clues for assessing the health/history of a used car are spot on
Brilliant review Mat, love my 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
Great review Matt. I got my first L322 last year after returning to driving after 15 years - a 4.4TDV8 Westminster from the 2012 final run. Same colour and trim as the one in your review. I totally agree that the design is timeliness and I often say that during the day mine is a hard working farmer down the field but then is easily able to pop on a tux and go to dinner. I actually love the somewhat 'mechanical' nature of the doors (a la Harry's Garage - BOOOF) there is something satisfying about it. It has grunt, a satisfying growl when prompted and luxury like driving in your armchair. The tech in it is everything I need and the dual view TV is great to play tricks on little family members who think it's magic. Reliability - totally agree and I think preventative maintenance is the key. Get to know a local specialist and listen to what they tell you. The advice I give is just as you did - work out your budget, take 15% off and pop it into a savings account. It's not a car for everyone but it's certainly a love affair for me. Sometimes she will have something wrong and she probably won't want to tell me why - only when she goes to see her friend (the garage) but she is a truly great car. I'm not sure I'd ever want to switch up to the L405 - if that day ever comes, I'll pop up and see you!
Thanks for this review Mat I just bought a 4.4 vogue se l322 in silver in Dec ,all you say is true they are in my opinion truly the best car ever made .I’ve owned a e46 m3 and two other range rovers but gone back to l322 from a 640d ,you drive other cars but love to drive a l322
I had the 2006 L322 3.6 litre RR Vogue and as previously mentioned, loved it. I still miss that car and agree with every single sentiment in this video. Yes it was a little clunky inside, not as luxurious as the newer models etc. But the L322 was super comfortable, safe and carried everything I needed it to. And yes, it made you feel great on the road. I never had an issue with parking although other people might have had an issue with my parking, but such is life. I went through two fuel injectors because I used fuel from a supermarket petrol station (very bad thing to do) and one resistor under the centre console that kept flattening the battery. But I would not trade it for anything for the 11 years I had it. You even had my eyes pop when you mentioned the Bosch wipers. That is exactly what I did for the car. Thank you for a fantastic video Matt. Subscribed with bells.👍👍👍
Just watched this video again, great advice on wipers etc!
another great vid, ive recently upgraded my disco 3,, 2.7 d to a L322 4.4 jag petrol and love it
Great review
Great review. Friend of mine has a 2010 3.6TDV8. She bought it two years ago from a family who had had it from new, and we collected it from a large (very large actually) countryside home with the grand total of 32,000 miles on the clock and full history. As you can imagine, its been faultless. I got myself a 2010 3.6TDV8 Sport a few years ago which I love, but whenever I see or travel in my friend's car, its just a bit more and a bit better in every way except perhaps on a bendy road.
Great to see my car on your channel. Really enjoying my MY2012 4.4V8 Westminster however it’s not an eco car by any means. For the first time last week the Pay At Pump £99 max top up didn’t fill it Still it is a classic and great family and dog ‘car’ (that term seems so inadequate for a RR) It transcends other cars - I guess that’s a big part of the charm
I love my 2008 3.6 L322 because is elegant but not too extravagant. It handles dirt roads very well but also is very smooth on the highways. If you know your way around to shop for parts and have a good mechanic shop, then is not that expensive to own.
I'm keeping mine for a long time. Great review!! Thank for sharing!
The L322 just gets under your skin in a way that is impossible to explain. I’ve had two of the earliest BMW engined petrol 4.4 V8’s and they were brilliant, if thirsty, and so refined that at tick-over you could be forgiven for thinking that it was turned off. I prefer the look of the very early ones, but they’re all great. They do suffer around the rear arches / door shut area with tin-worm though…
I love the way the water beads off the bonnet as you're driving. Sign of a good valet 👍
Recently upgraded by TD6 to a 2010 5.0 S/C and I love it. The best work horse I've ever owned and always puts a smile on my face. Depreciation really is a wonderful thing.
Love your videos, no coated BS, just straight up honest car review and advice…..and because of you I’m picking up my first L320 RRS today! Took all your advice on board and hopefully my one won’t be too bad!
Good choice. Enjoy
I have to agree with you over the reliability of almost all older luxury cars. When they are about 7 to 10 years old, they go through a stage of needing attention and given their depreciation, they are no longer worth much. Folk start going to independents… (if at all) and cut corners (a bit). Classic cars etc get pampered, whilst older luxury barges get hammered.
They depreciate because no one cares for them,basic maintenance,engine trans problems never solved.
Don’t make excuses for the poor reliability that should have been resolved by the manufacturer
Your advice on buying and servicing is spot on..its just common sence! I look for simple signs that the thing has been loved ..cared for...interior wise..then theres a good chance its been seeviced and repaired with thought and care...another thing is i always stay away from mods...big wheels...smoked lights...sport style mods ...just about anything thats not original...smoked windows are fine if its done properly and not gangster style! 👍
Great video Matt. Such a tempting option of car!
Spot on, as always !
Completely timeless, I love it
Finest all round car you can get! Bought my 2011 4.4TDV8 last year and love driving it every day, puts a smile on my face.
I like the way you think. Lots of questions answered.
Great video I think off compressor and air bags as serviceable items they last so many years then need replacing same as shock absorbers l322 owner and loving it
Such a refreshing take on buying a used Range Rover. Great advice re radio stations and wiper blades. Tyres also a good indicator; cheap Chinese ditch finders too. To be fair you often check tyres.
Nice one Matt!! Bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 last May. Love it!! Up to £6k in preventative maintenance because I want it 100%, had no issues very reliable, starts every time, flew threw MOT no advisories. Even had Lanoguard underside protection. Added a Bovee Bluetooth Streaming device which connects to ipod point, works a treat. Won't be letting it go anytime soon... Keep it up. 😊👍
Good for you I personally love range rovers, and I think ppl who say they have problems, just don't care for them and just mistreat them.
Do you got it and did it give you any problems.
@@tanks4lyfe509 Even I also like land rover but u can't trust it's reliability, u can find so much owners who's land rover getting so many problems under warranty.
@@rasimkazi7086 still got it. No issues since doing all the maintenance.👍 2023 project is to replace all the suspension airbags 👍
Through...
How nice to see another Range Rover on the channel. thanks, nice car!
Love this video, as I’m looking to purchase a late-model L322. Appreciated them from afar, and now ready (I hope) to take the plunge. Thank you Matt for your thoughts and experiences. They will help even on the other side of the pond.
Test drive a very good low miles one above budget. Then you can compare with other ones. Make its got Tons of history in its folder. Not excuses. No service gaps. Get the egrs blanked off/ mapped out asap. For turbos sake. Engine/ gearbox/ trans/ dif oils flushed and changed professionally as soon as you get it. And do engine/gearbox/trans every 5k and 10k respectivley . get it undersealed. Car vertical it/ hpi regardless. Take it off road and listen to any bangs amd rattles. Make sure brake line recal is done. They corode and can leave you in shit creek. Never buy modified or chipped. Totally standard or nothing. And most important check everything electrical. Everything!!!! And dont buy a sport..... ever!!!!!!!!
Your videos are great, straight to the point and very professional
Thanks!
Excellent video. I can relate and understand all the wonderful points you made about the beloved Land Rover- range rover we all love! I did drive a 2008 -up until a few days ago. It made it to 247,000 miles bought it with 89,000. What a beautiful truck!!
You're on commission from JLR I'm sure of it. Seriously though, another good video with lots of interesting info. I do agree its pretty timeless in standard form.
Hahha I should probably lay off all the LR stuff. People will think I'm taking bungs
@@HighPeakAutos would that it were though… I mean would that it were they would be generous in return for honest high praise
I’m not, I hope being disingenuous in claiming that far from (funny as it may be), suggesting that Mattt receives an a commission from JLR, there are quite a lot of us who remain loyal supporters of the JLR icons I have owned many cars over the years, currently a Jaguar, like any vehicle, if you look after them, you will be rewarded in the long term. And they never look ‘ordinary’.
Great review there Matt..... Excellent and honest... 👏👏
Brilliant advice Matt. I bought a 2011 RRS with around 92,000 miles and ended up selling it 2 months later as the ACE pipes were all corroded and ended up breaking and pissing suspension fluid. Had a comprehensive RR specialist history and looked great but I failed as the wiper blades were perished when I first bought the car, haha. Loved owning it, just wish it wasn’t plagued with reliability issues. The specialists themselves (the discovery centre in otley) admitted there aren’t any reliable land rovers out there!
Loved every minute of owning it when it worked.
Best Buying Advice! Spot On
Matt last year i watch a vid of yours on the Range Rover sport, so took your advice and looked for a low mileage 2010 facelift L320 in silver with 76 k on the clock full history from dealers, I've never looked back its been a fantastic car even towing a twin axle caravan you wouldn't think you were towing anything Only one thing went wrong was a drivers door lock mechanism, but sorted £190 fitted and thats gearbox serviced next month and by a Landover range rover specialists ! Then that sorted 🙌 if i had to sell it i would go for the L322 full size like the 2012 you have just driven ! Love the sound advice you give out !!!! Great content every time and well explained test drives !! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I really like the look of these Range Rovers, and your video really sells the idea to me to be brave enough to buy a newish one...BUT without exception everyone I know who has had one , regrets the day they bought one..so I take the cowards choice and stick to a BMW x5 or Mercedes Glc which I have had for the last 10 years with virtually no issues
Brilliant video Matt, very informative and accompanied with knowledge, not forgetting your very own witt n comedy. Keep em coming 👏👏👏
Thanks
Matt, love this, agree 100%. Great ref.
Love the video. I don't blame you for the stereotypes and assumptions 1 bit. I have caught myself doing that with boats for my channel. Look for the little things and it normally gives you an indication if they took care of the big things. Problem with luxury cars and in my case luxury boats, is that often people have a steak appetite and McDonald's budget. The neglect typically gets passed on to the next buyer so thanks for giving everyone a glimpse of what to look for, and what to avoid.
L322 was the very last Range Rover that I drove, it was a pre-production model way back in December 2001! Overriding memory of that drive? After the luxurious interior, it was the size of the thing! Compared to P38a it felt like piloting a super tanker😂. Great review as always and 100% spot on about care and maintenance.
Best 4x4 By Far, Bosch!.
Thankyou
I owned a 2010 autobiography 5.0 from June-Jan. Put 10,000 miles on it and loved every second. I got out of it because I didn’t want a vehicle I would have to put money into when I have newer ones, but I definitely hope to own one again!
I’ve owned 2 of these and this overview is very fair and in my experience accurate.
I’m now in a RR Sport SVR (2022) and it rides no better and is less imperious.
One thing I recommend is buy a Gold one, all Gold cars are looked after better than any colour. :-)
Another top notch Range Rover Video ! Will most likely re watch 10 or more times
Matt, I am not kidding, you answered my secret request for a dream video. Was waiting for you to do another Range Rover video. I love L332s. Much appreciated.
Yep great video. Had a couple of issues with my 62 plate L322 but not as bad as my 98 S plate disco 2 YET. It does as it say's on the tin, great tow car which is just what I need, 3.5 tons capacity. Fuel when towing 20 - 24 MPG, short runs 25 Mpg and long runs 35+, so not that bad given the tow consumption for my 90 was about 20 MPG. So comfort and great ability. Hopefully keep it for 10 years or so, if I am still fit to drive that is???
Love these, hope to own one one day. Great video 👍
Matt just quit it ! Every time i think ive got the RR bug out of my system you put out another video making me want one 😂
Love the L322. Done 130k mikes in mine now. Drives the same as it always has. A keeper.
Every word spot-on, as always.
Awesome review video, thank you for celebrating all these fun and outstanding cars 😎👍
Impressive knowledge, realistic views and much praise for sharing all these facts and stats.
Like number 300 given for sure!
Thanks! I appreciate it
Yes! I have the 2007 3.6 TDV8 SE Silver with the Brembo brakes and 20 inch wheels.
Hello again. 'Matt', you are spot-on regarding how people look after their vehicles, windsreen wipers are a great example, before retiring I used to drive 20k miles per year with my company car per year, at the 'company car' 10k service I would always ask for a new set of wipers, I would normally have to pay the bill. Two important things on a car, good tyres for grip on the road , good wipers to see the road ahead, KISS. Regards, RichardA.
Wipers at 10k is unnecessary. And a weird story to give as an example
Good points.
Just fitted some Bosch wipers to replace my Volvo originals. Recon I’ve massively increased its resale price lol
@@rezamotin7305 lol your so wrong, having driven 30.000 miles a year for last 15yrs in a variety of very nice expensive company cars I always changed Windscreen wipers every year, it’s such a small expensive, also new matching tyres as soon a 2mm depth, having seen multiple accidents over the years my life is worth the expensive to increase visibility and reduce stopping distance on a wet cold winters day on the M1
@@alanwayte432 20k or 30k which one? Anyway glad your windscreen wipers have kept you alive. God bless them!!
Really informative cheers
I’m now on the hunt for one of these and knew you’d be the first place to look
Thanks really good video.
Thank you, another great video. I currently have a BMW 640d cabrio and I do love it. But cannot stop thinking about getting one of these L322 and ditch the BMW. Specially with that 4.4 V8 engine.
7:47 - thank you for directly answering my question in the previous vid 😁
Took the L322 Vogue to Taunton today Marks & Spencer’s . Stocked up on a few essentials, Stilton and bubbly . Drove home via Preston Bowyer & Wiveliscombe , through Huish Champflower and home . Lovely afternoon out , the Vogue performed Beautifully .
Great video Matt 👍
Having owned one of these beasts I recognise the giddiness you are experiencing telling everyone how lovely they are, and you are so right. Until you've clocked up your first 70+mile journey in one you really don't know what motoring should be. 5.0L over the top, may be more like a double helping of cream, delicious 😋 Yep, it's time for me to get back in the saddle while there's still some nice ones left.
Huh
Your generalisations and stereotypes are spot on and one of the reasons your videos are so good. Great video
Thanks!
Totally agree with that! I work in a different industry and there are definitely "tell" signs and red flags that you would not pick up upon if you didn't do the job day in and day out. Thanks for the vid .
Great video always wanted one of these dark green with the ivory interior 👌
Classy combination
Another great. Video from probably the best car channel out there. All backed up by years of real world experience
Thank you
Hi Matt all the little tricks and things to look out for I've got to say you have now become my Yoda for buying a second-hand car thanks for all your advice cheers Phil from Newark
Haha thanks Phil
There are only two new (at the time) cars which have absolutely bowled me over with the all round brilliance. This was one. I'd never owned any LR product before but I bought one new in 02, a 4.4V8 petrol, had it two years, and adored every moment of driving (filling the tank was a different story). Not a single squeak, warning light or problem in that period. Ok, the little passive aggressive Green stickers that I was killing polar bears were a little irksome to find, but I do miss this. It is a big old bus, but as you have so accurately summarised, it is both a luxury car and a proper working vehicle. Oh, and the other one, the new Defender. Unlike the 3 months when I ordered the L322, that one I'm having to wait 12 months to arrive. I can't wait!
Excellent key points to look out for when buying a Range Rover 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good buying tips. They’ve never let me down. Budget tyres have me heading for the hills.
Thats another great one
Surely a nice set of Chinese landsails is the sign of a great thrifty owner, who will have kept on top of the maintenance.
@@kevincockburn7805 can't beat a good set if Ditch Finders!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's just a pity that a dealership wouldn't fit decent tyres to a car they were selling. Ok I'm not saying they should fit a set of Michelin Sport Pilots but a have reasonable brand at least. I've just bought a car from dealership and it's got some non descript make on as a set. Still they are legal which is something.
Most entertaining review video by far...loved it. Own the L322 and the newer L405, L322 all day!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you!
Love your work Matt. You're my go to amigo for common sense on buying a car less ordinary.
Thanks
Another top vid Matt!
Thanks
Another very good and entertaining video, nice one Matt 👍👍
Thanks
Great video! Loved every second! God Bless the L322! Something about them! Love my MY2020 and it is better in many ways but I fear that as of late, the RR has lost something. I saw the new MY2022 and while the body was beautiful, the interior left me blah. It just feelt sterile. Truth be told I don't like change and I am still bitter over some of changes they made since 2015, 2017 to my current 2020. In addition, I was further annoyed we have fewer color choices on interior seats than before. I must drive my dealer crazy and they seem confident once I am able to test drive, I will order a new one. Time will tell!
I know what you mean about the interior of the new one. I'm sure time will help
hi thanks for great video review on rr l322. i had a 2011 rr sport beautiful vehicle but had to get rid .trouble with brakes [footbrake went to floor]lost confidence in it spent over £3500 thanks for your continuous good reviews keep well stay safe
Well said Matt. Totaly agree with all you've said.👍
The whole review is absolutely spot on. The only problem with these older luxury cars no matter what brand they are, is too find a low milage few owners car with full service and all that.
Low mileage is definitely not always a good idea, having a car just lay there most of it life is no better then having it do 60 miles a day up and down the motorway.
@@track6631 Spot on - I bought a 12 year old 118 Convertible with just 44k on it - just had the engine replaced
Buying a car with low mileage isn’t always the best advice, I would rather buy a car that’s used daily and has racked up the miles with plenty of history. Also if a car has higher mileage there is a good chance that it’s had some Of the potential larger jobs done, hence the importance of having a good read of the history.
Even as a non car trader there is plenty of info to help when looking at a car. I check "DVLA MOT checker" and if the car has had loads of fails and /or advisories especially safety related I leave alone. Also check the brand of tyre if enquiring further down the line . If cheap brand then only if it breaks maintenance. Also where was the service history actioned? Main Dealer is good , " Best Price back street" then leave alone.
Don't tend to look at the Arnold Clark or Evans Halshaw vehicles as they tend to be do as little as possible to turn them over stock so you're buying the last persons problems . Great review as usual.
Great video as always . Waiting for you to do a Lexus GS 450h . 😊
Finally! Been waiting!! Watching now. :)
Thanks!
Great vid again I love the l322 , mine had its problems in my ownership. Get this one on the raffle shack . To win two cars would be outrageous.
Yes the RR and the Merc W211 (facelift) truly timeless duo in the driveway🤗
Loved the westminster edition looked so regal
Spot on Matt. Yet more wise words and sound advice.
I've previously owned large typically 3 or 4 year old Land Rover, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai and Kia vehicles. The latter two definitely a more affordable but no less useful or worse proposition - look past the badge people! All however do go wrong with something eventually. Your comments that the more complicated (and thus expensive) a vehicle is, the more there is to go wrong, the more it is likely to cost to fix - are indeed wise words.
Recently I "scratched the itch" and bought (privately) a 2012 L322 with 50,000 verifiable miles on the clock. Did my homework and so far it looks like I bought okay - all-be-it at a high price. Specialist Land Rover garage have just gone right through it and found £600 worth of repairs, including a rear sub-frame rust prevention treatment. I'm pretty happy at that. One of the best kept examples they claim to have seen.
Your point about a repair fund is also critical. Put £1,500 - £2,000 away for the first 2 or 3 years to build up a repair fund is essential advice. Mine has come with the balance of an 18 month warranty but it has so many "get-outs" for the provider to exploit, it frankly is not worth the £1,650 per year it will go on to cost me if i'm daft enough to extend it. They also limit the labour rate they will pay up to - £72/hr inc VAT. Good luck finding a decent Specialist, never mind main dealer, charging under that in southern England.
It will need some unforeseen (probably costly) repair at some point, but i've wanted one for the last 10 years and so far am really liking it, despite the dated infotainment system. I see it more as an affordable Bentley yet it tows the occasional heavy loads I need it to. Being an Autobiography it is as luxurious as these cars came and that surprisingly smooth and (relatively) economic diesel V8... wow! A 10 year old, 2.7 tonne vehicle should not be able to take off and drive like this!