Should You Buy a RANGE ROVER L405? (Test Drive & Review 4.4 SDV8 Vogue SE)
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The Range Rover L405 has been around since 2012. They've now fallen in price to such a point that they look very tempting. Should you buy one? Let's see what they're like.
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I always thought the normal Range Rover makes you look like you have earnt your money whereas the Sport makes you look like you have won your money haha
Haha yes good point. I might use that line in the future :)
spot on
👍👍👍👍
Rubbish......lol my Sport is the dogs however High Peaks I'll take your SE off your hands 😂😂😂
Or the Sport makes you look like got your money through dodgy means?
I own a L332 (over three years now) with full service history and it really is a joy to drive. I recently tested a L405 and a Sport (as I’m thinking of changing car) and I fully endorse Matt’s comments. Forget mpg and £pg. It’s all about smiles per mile. :-)
I’ve always turned a blind eye to repair costs on my cars. Now all I need is a deaf ear to avoid the nagging from her indoors.
My missus usually nags pre any significant purchase, especially those leaning towards my enjoyment. Yet, now her reaction to me trying to get to the keys of the SQ5 is like I'd insulted her nan 😭
Haha Blind eye, deaf ear and no feelings when it hurts. THE PERFECT JLR OWNER 😉
You could just tell her it’s none of her business fellas 😎👌🏻
I also have the 4.4 V8, love my range rover.
Good choice
Amazing VIP car. Maintenance isn’t really an issue as long as it’s driven regularly, maintained well with good oil and servicing
I get the “buyers remorse” I had the guilt . Then I thought about how hard I work, that I had always wanted the car and that I only live once . I felt better then !
Thats quite right
I'm surprised at how many of us had that same feeling after purchasing this beaut. I'm just a tree trimmer in Ohio in the United States and I just got a used 2010 and I'm loving it! Felt so weird the first couple weeks now I feel much better!!
It's also worth noting that the air sus compressor is a serviceable part; every year or two it's worth changing the seals in the pump and valve block as well as replacing the dessicant bag. Doing both of these things will vastly prolong the life of the whole air sus system
Your reviews are always such a treat and so refreshing from the competition out there.
It always feels like having a nice conversation with family whilst on the way to the weekly food shop :)
Thanks! I appreciate that. Cheers
I’m getting one in 2 years, when I turn 40 to spoil myself😎
Love this thing so dearly.
I’m on my 4th Range Rover. Have never bought a used one but can honestly say I have never had any problems with any of them. I have absolutely loved each and every one of them. I think you will be very happy with your purchase. I guess I have bought them with the intention of spoiling myself each time and have never regretted any of my purchases.
@@chitown1098 That’s really nice man. Unfortunately I can’t afford a new one, but I’ll make sure I get a very decent used one, probably from Land Rover, with full history and take a mechanical plan for it. I’ll plan carefully.
When you look at cars like Audi, Mercedes, Volvo etc the interiors always look spartan, but British luxury cars always have nice interiors
I agree. Different league
Comparing the interior of a range rover from 2013 to the mercedes s class of the same year, I would say Range Rover looks better and still looks more updated.
Another excellent well balanced review with sound advice about running an expensive vehicle from someone in the know. Also what the last few months have taught us why not have what you want if you can afford it.
I’d love 1, they’ve aged really well and early ones are looking an attractive buy these days.
Lovely plate as well, probably worth more than the car!
Cheers!
From experience with Land Rover Freelander 2 I must say LR are not worse in reliability than other cars. Sure it had some repairs but which car didn't? And the feel of driving a JLR car is just. 👌
I agree! Thats always my argument
Great review, and I love the scenery! The reason the ride is 'a bit crashy' is that the 4.4 litre and the supercharged petrol are fitted with the active anti roll bars. The 3.0 TDV6 is not fitted with them and has a better smoother ride, but not everybody likes it because it leans more in the corners.
Ah I didn’t know that. Cheers
Coming from two previous Discovery 4’s, I tried out both systems before I bought my current RR.
The 3.0 rolled much more in corners than the D4, while the 4.4’s roll just seemed normal. I couldn’t tell any difference in ride quality and in the 93,000 miles that I’ve done in it since, I haven’t been able to fault the ride.
Ride quality in RR’s seems much more badly effected by the pointlessly over sized wheels and low profile tyres that many of them leave the factory with!
If someone has a 5.0 or 4.4, with 20” rims AND a crashy ride, then there’s something wrong with it. My first port of call would be checking the anti roll bar bushes 👍
Thank you so much. A truly balanced and sensible review as always. Just sold my Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography and I agree with every comment you made. I miss it so badly.
Thanks for watching!
Finally i have watched a true review of this car im actually looking to get one very soon and im glad i landed on your video gives me alot to think about as i was only really looking at the autobiography spec but really do you get much more for all that extra money 👌 thank you
Nice review. I bought my 2013 (2014 model) L405 Autobiography in January. I had a 2003 L322 Vogue and a Vogue in the 1980s. I loved all of them. You are spot on with the way the car makes you feel. Since most driving nowadays is about moving slowly on crowded roads it’s a very comfortable and quiet place to be. It’s my chill out space. You don’t need to go fast as you can waft along in comfort. My problem is where to go next. Newer ones are much dearer and even the latest model isn’t much different. I don’t like the Bentayga (looks and poor rear seating). The Cullinan has grown on me but is massively expensive even pre-owned. Owning a Range Rover spoils for anything else in terms of driving experience, comfort, practicality and quality. BTW the wooden steering wheel and leather roof lining are wonderful! 😉
You’ve got me sold on one of these for life will just have to own a range rover one day. We ask and you keep delivering thank you. Top gear,auto trader JLR here’s your new ambassador/presenter 👍👌🇬🇧
Haha thanks! That would be nice
Another balanced, informed and honest review - very intuitive and entertaining. Saving up for one!!
Great video, as usual Matt. We have a 2013, Range Rover Sport that we love. It isn't as classy or as comfortable as the full size car but lovely nonetheless. I Drove a 4.4 Vogue SE recently and couldn't believe how luxurious it was, silent on the road too! Just a note, when your car is off, if you press the start button without putting your foot on the brake, the car should give you power for radio, heating, etc
Have owned 2 L322 (2007, 2011), 2 L405 (2013, 2019). All four cars have been reliable. Never had a mechanical problem.
If you use 93 octane, do a basic maintenance every 12 months they are every bit as reliable as an AMG or an M car!
Preventative maintenance are the two key words here!
Cheers!
You deserve it mate
Your hardwork
God gave it to you
And more to come
I highly doubt a fictitious god gave him a Range Rover. I’m sure he bought it with the money he earned
You're right, my bad
The sense of occasion is spot on. No other car makes you feel the same way a Ranger Rover or Disco when you're driving them. The driving position is unparalleled as is the ride. It's one of the few cars I've driven that is rewarding to drive slowly as well as quickly.
I love this car, I have a similar one which I bought new in 2016 and still own it, hasn’t missed a beat yet, no reliability issues as I have taken care of it. Can’t compare it to most cars, you can only understand this once you’ve lived with this car for a while. Awesome family vehicle. No car is perfect, but this really is close. Love your videos mate ✌🏽
I agree! Good choice. Cheers
I've been dailying it😁 (new word mate)
I really intend to do the same upon getting one, I'm thinking of getting one from a leasing company auction @ Washington DC.
My coworker dailies his 2006 RR HSE Supercharged V8, not much complains except for some bad fuses and wheel bearings he changed when he bought it, power steering serviced after one year.
Nothing fancy, you just tell the truth whenever you're reviewing these machines👊 great videos. Keep dropping them like🌧🌧
Thanks! Go for it, theyre great cars. Thanks for watching
You nearly convinced me this time Matt...you’re still trying to convince yourself as well 😂
Hahaha
I watch him to fall asleep
LBAS15 I should do a video of exhaust noises. That would be riveting
@@HighPeakAutos slip those exhaust noises in at a late point in one of your future videos, just to wake him up!
High Peak Autos sick burn
From your comments on reliability/servicing to budgeting and set aside money for repairs... you talk sense! It is reassuring to hear a balanced review.
Thanks!
I recently bought a 2012 L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE with full Landrover service history after researching for a while, I prefer the older style interior and there is a considerable saving compared to an L405. I absolutely love it but was fascinated to hear you talk about how it made you feel at first, I felt unworthy for a while not owning a farm or country estate but I am getting over it. Love the videos, keep them coming....
Haha its strange isn't it. Maybe we're just overthinkers
My absolute dream car since I was knee high to a grasshopper, think I need to work up to it from my mini cooper in height alone 🙄😂
I agree with you on this one, I've driven several luxury vehicles for vvip's clients over the years, range rover V8 ticks all the boxes, only issue I had was clients preferred black for work.. on days off pearl white wrap for pleasure.. costs little xtra.. increases protection of paint + value & decreases blood pressure. 😂😂 🌈
Your reviews are so well articulated and to the point. Pleasure to watch and listen to.
Thanks for watching
I love your videos. I bought a Volvo wagon after seeing your review of a Volvo V70 which taught me that old Volvos can last so much longer than most other brands. You’re not wrong. You are engaging honest which I appreciate. Pete 🇬🇧
As a fellow hopeless Jaguar/LR/RR fanboy, I understand your frustration with those wannabe experts. You ignore them and just enjoy your Rangie. I hope to own the L322 Range Rover Autobiography V8SC someday (it'll be my 1st Range Rover).
Haha thanks! I agree.
Not a Range Rover fan but that one looks lovely and immaculate. Great video! If you could have easily swapped with the M5 you had and loved. Would you?
Thanks! Thats a tough one. I did love the M5 but not sure if I'd want to use it everyday
My late model L322 TDV8 I have had for 3 years has been spot on just a small oil leak. Done around 20000 miles, still feels special to drive. No better car for long journeys. Before I had an M3 which was a blast but this is more relaxing for everyday use.
Greatly appreciated your comments on the L405 Range Rover. Thank you very much!
Would love one of these. My anxiety about running costs and repairs is getting in the way though. Lifes too short to worry though I guess
Thats the thing. No they're not cheap to run but nothing else compares
@@HighPeakAutos true man. Love your channel 😀
Do what I did spend time looking at as many as you can and always buy the nicest one for your budget and always keep a little in reserve.
If you can find one being sold by a bloke with OCD then it helps. I certainly over maintain mine and have a folder with every receipt I have every spent on the car. In my 115,000 miles it's certainly more reliable than any of the Volvo 850/V70/XC 70s I owned.
T D the most beautiful drive and in my opinion the best car in the world HOWEVER don’t expect Landrover ruggedness the electrics etc on both the ones I had were a never ending money pit great if on lease NOT to own 😭
I was searching your old videos but you uploaded just in time .
Good timing
Yeah man .
Thanks for another great video, Matt.
Love the private reg, and the RR of course.
Ed
Thanks for watching!
Glad it's turning out as good as you expected and it's great advert for the business . Not my cup of tea but recognize why someone would want one
Another great review Matt, I’ve got to say the chav’s round your way have got a bit more about them than the one’s in my “hood” driving Range Rover sports!!!🤣
Imagine the luxury of a range rover and a reliablilty of a landcruiser that would be the ideal 4x4.
Really great review, currently on my second L405, everything you say is correct. Perfect car for every occasion, but so much more than words can explain. Superb in every way. If you’re in the market, don’t hesitate!
Simon Spall I love mine. I wouldn’t have anything else
Just tripped over this after seeing various other of your vids over the last few months and was contemplating a RR... love the fact that you keep the chat real and actually talk about the car from a real-world-use perspective. Some of the features seem weird, like the start option is either on or off and no accessories... me n my littl'un hang out in my S500 a fair bit, as we travel a lot and stuff like that's quite important!
You deserve a tv presenting job. I've no interest in RR's, especially after driving them in some films & shows, but after this video I want one.
Thanks! I appreciate it
1000% agree Tony, This chap should have a great future as a presenter
He got me as well now, I’m just thinking about how to afford one sensibly as only 22
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lukeferguson9010 work hard i had one when I was 22 , best of luck go for it.🙂
Great review and a beautiful range rover, look in the mirror every morning and say, I work hard, i take risks to make a living, I deserve my range rover, I'd love one, well done and it's great to see any one trying to make a life for there self, respect !
P.S it's a cool car.
Thanks!
Epic and also my next car. As you've mentioned time and time again servicing is critical. You deserve everything you get, keep up the good work. 👍
Too big too expensive too opulent 🤔 yes my type of car.
Haha yes
Interesting. I have one. It replaced my much loved L322 and, at first, I wasn’t sure. To me the L405 was missing some of the drama of it’s predecessor but now, 6 months later, I am totally sold to the point where I can say that I love it!
Did you take out the extended warranty?
Thanks John
No words...just perfection!
A great vehicle made all the better by your great review sir. Some real common sense advice there, and like others have said your wasted doing CZcams you should be on a TV show. Your commentary is very smooth and seems to come very naturally. Keep up the good work.
Regarding the issue regarding the ICE not being available when the ignition is off, if you switch off the engine and then press the radio button without opening the drivers door, the ICE will re-start without the engine running.
That makes sense.
You really chose the right engine, Matt. I've got one question about the suspension. Don't you find it both crashy and wallowy (which is a bit paradoxical)? When I drove one, it baffled me.
I know what you mean. The adaptive suspension does well when you're driving quickly around corners but at lower speeds it can feel a bit wallowy. Its not as trashy as the Sport, but crashier than you'd expect - if any of that makes sense haha
@@HighPeakAutos Still a lovely thing to own and drive with dignity. Especially with that 4.4l V8, which has none of the V6's problems and has so much poweeerrrr!
Well described Matt. Fun when pushed, surprisingly
Same issues, really my only complaint, how can it be so much worse than the L322? I suspect that they fixed it in the 2018?
@@goodwinaj Which same issues are you talking about?
I was almost going to ask you on another video when you were going to do the full review of your Rover,
As my warranty starts to whine down, I'm starting to look at the L405 as my next upgrade, my '11 sport supercharged has been nothing but amazing and the only expense was a deductible payment to replace sway bar bushings which will cause it to sound like the suspension is failing. I was told by my local dealer that the timing chain issue has shown up as recently as 2016 models (supposedly was addressed in '13) but are few and rare. I love mine and can't wait for the upgrade in the next year, this review just essentially confirmed that I'm on the right track with these.
And yes, we do have some diesels here which are starting to come on the used market.
Keep up the good work! Always enjoy the videos!
I didnt know there were any timing issues on the V8 after 2013 either
Love these videos, especially the Range Rover ones. I achieved a life dream last year by buying a 2011 L322 and it is an absolute dream car. Yes I really love the L405 and will probably take the natural route to upgrade to one when they come into my budget but for now - the L322 is a joy. Like you say, they need servicing properly and mine has had a few issues but nothing major. Wouldn’t drive anything else. Enjoy yours !
Gary Hawkins welll done ! Got a L322 too , petrol ; was very scared reading reviews about reliability; so far so good , best driver position ever feel very relaxed to drive it , very very easy to drive also which seems paradoxal ! , I have a ML Mercedes to rescue me whenever I wd have an issue !!! I will buy 2013, petrol when we know better with the final impact of Coronavrirus ; still looks a bit too luxurious today tough ...
Hope your RR stays reliable....
Did you see the prime Minister’s security Range Rover run in the back of the jag on the news today 😂😂😂
Yes I did! Made a mess of the Sentinel XJ
High Peak Autos the boot isn’t armoured plated !
@High Peak Autos u sure u weren't behind the wheel😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
midinotes true question.Suppose it depends how old the range Rover is and if it was fitted as standard I suppose. I wonder if they take the radar breaking off just in case they need to mow somebody down to get the Prime Minister out the way to safety 😂😂
Excellent review which helped me make my mind up-it arrives ( 3.0 TDV6 autobiography) in 3 days
You are right mate. if you like a specific car, get it. Enjoy it...many "fancy" cars could be troublesome but it is worth the enjoyment.
So, you know the issue with regards to the Bluetooth streaming, not displaying the track information?
That was going to be implemented, however the project managers over at Gaydon, were putting pressure on the infotainment department to get the vehicle pushed through to final prototype stage. Because these project managers get bonuses to reach their set time goals (they call them Gateways), that's all they really care about.
Sorry, I didn't mean to have a rant. 🙄 I just know what happened about that. Don't ask me how 😉. The Land Rover dealerships have access to a system called "Pathfinder". It interfaces directly with factory software updates. Sadly though, the infotainment department didn't release an update for the L405. No harm in checking with your local dealer for any sw updates. I do know that there was a recent safety recall on the L405s to do with the door locking. Just thought I'd mention that.
Thats interesting. I didnt know that. Its going in for a service soon so I;ll enquire about software updates
@uktech "The Land Rover dealerships have access to a system called "Pathfinder"". Nissan solicitors will be in touch shortly and Land rover will have you to thank 🤣🤣
uktech Fascinating and, as an ex-project fella with a family member who is an ex-JLR employee, I believe every word of it. I can understand the need to get it released to start earning paying for itself, but not giving it an update would be a crying shame (and a bit shoddy for a pricey bit of kit). Beautiful all the same.
FYI Matt if you press the start button once without your foot on the brake, you'll get just accessories / electrics / radio etc :)
Cheers! I'll try that
Only gives you a couple of minutes tho.... and then shuts down
That's with every car though, it turns on the electrics, not the ignition for the engine.
Top Video as always! It seems i need to change from my beloved L322's finally....! and for your particular car: i like the swiss vignettes on the windshield! cheers from switzerland
Spot on about the reliability, most people buy neglected ones, have a bad experience with it, sell it and then shit all over the brand, buy one thats been look after and it should be a alright experience, and as you said, keep a couple of grand for repairs because, as with every car out there, things will break, cheers for the video mate👍🏻
A Toyota Aygo...or a horse. 🙃
It's a fair comment, but have you ever seen anyone reversing a horse into a garage? No? Well there's a reason for that. And the cost of premium sugar-lumps is extortionate. Stick with the Rangie.
Well, I mean, I WAS about to make a reliability joke about it, but you own one yourself so no
Hahah
my 2000 P38 4.0lt V8 petrol cost £1650 3 yrs ago - 113k miles (I've done 5k since ownership). Like property being ALL about Location, Location, Location. RR ownership is ALL about Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance. Mine has suffered ZERO depreciation and over 5k miles has cost about £1500 - all upfront maintenance before I started using it. Being a home mechanic type - I love the more analogue nature of the P38. If I was going to upgrade I would probably opt for a 2008-09 L322 but in all honesty, I'm more likely to spend £5000 rebuilding the engine (if required) before moving on - there is literally nothing else wrong with it. Glad you are enjoying your new purchase - enjoy it and ignore the nay sayers
I love the P38. They're starting to become classics too
Great video as always. You’ve got a beautiful car don’t feel guilty just enjoy it!
You might have just cured my reliability fear of buying one of them!
Sadly, your Dad’s dog’s cousin’s brother has passed away. However, as his sole beneficiary, the entirety of his £300 million estate can be transferred from Lagos, on receipt of your Bank details and passwords. We await your response.
Great video. Best yet. Thanks for your time and effort !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Matt quite an informative video. It’s a gorgeous car, and who cares if it’s a bit extravagant for a ‘daily’ drive? Life’s about having a fun time sometimes. Enjoy.
You, bruv, are the anti-Scotty Kilmer & I LOVE it!!! Here's to having your cake & eating it too! We need to live our dreams coz life is too short (proven by Covid)
Hahah thanks! I'm thinking the same
Unfortunately living on the Yorkshire Moors these things are nowt but a pain in the arse. Nothing like coming round a corner and coming face to face with some solicitor accountant type struggling to control them or even worse the wife on a school run blocking visibility outside schools or the local posh chocolate shop. Proper folk drive defenders up here. Sign of the Times I suppose.
Finally a common sense review of the Range Rover that tells me what I actually want to know about buying one. Which. Hoping to do later this year. Got yourself a new subscriber
I’m in a 3.6 tdv8 and I’m looking at one of these next so this video was very useful, I didn’t know about the soft close doors- which is nice!
I really want one absolutely stunning car but I really need to sell all my other cars first which would be about the price of one I saw a couple of them for about 28k
What else do you have?
@@HighPeakAutos at the moment I've got 9 cars a jag xf, BMW X5 ,alfa gulieta and a Mitsubishi fto the rest of them are just cheaper cars I would still need a little bit more cash to buy one but I would happily do it
Big collection then
Miron Csurilla sell the garage you keep all that in too and get Bentayga 😎
Great video as always. Been waiting for you to review the L405. Cost to own is real but at 124k miles, my lr4 is solid. Love it. It’s a special car. Life is short.
Very good point
Great point about cars and faults Matt, hundreds of reviews about motors and their faults
Love your videos all the cars I like you seem to have reviewed. Kind of buying best for the money and having a really nice car for the money 💰
Wow I needed this, been wanting a vogue for so long but it’s justifying the money
What a prefect car, glad your enjoying it. We only have one life so enjoy the moment and do what makes you happy.
How fitting to share this video on the RR 50th birthday! I saw yours driving through our area last Friday night and thought what a good looking car it is in black.
Very apt wasn't it!
Amazing review please do all of them this length and with this detail
Nice ride round Monyash, A515 & Buxton there, I’ve got a L405 too, great car, nice review 👍
Nice review, great channel! Keep them coming!
Really love your videos, loving the channel. I always think that people are more inclined to put bad reviews on online car forums than good ones. You’d never buy any car if you went by those types of reviews.
I appreciate your videos cause you give realistic appraisals of used car options. I bought a Volvo wagon after watching your review of the Volvo V70 you acquired for little money. Thank you. Pete 🇬🇧
Glad you like them!
Informative video, thank you. 👍
I love the comment you made on reliability.you are honest and true about it.you are a true brother thumbs up and i subscribe.
Thank you! Thanks for subscribing too
Love this rangie ! Keep up the great posts!
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for the great video! Really enjoying your content. Always loving the sight of the British country side as well, remembers me of my studies in St. Andrews years ago, where I met my wife. We are currently driving a 2019 A8, but will get a Range Rover one day and go back to StA and pull up to the Old Course Hotel in it :-) Thanks for giving me great memories!
Very nice! Thanks for watching
Once again , great review ! I was never a Range Rover Fan , but you have converted me with all your reviews :)
Nice car by the way .
Glad you like it!
On my 3rd Rangerover, Classic, P38 and now 2006 L322. The Classic was great off road, the P38 had a lot of issues. so far my L322 is doing great.
Great description thank you.
Matt nice review. I love Rangey's, I've never had any major issues with mine, they're fantastic. Yours is the perfect spec! black on black, original alloys, panoramic roof! She a keeper Matt, long term.
Cheers!
Great review Matt looks a nice place to be definitely with the sunroof it just opens up all the cabin with light 👍🏻
Yes it does!
I think you nailed it mate about maintenance ..... people buy a car and hardly maintenance the car and when things break they blame the reliability. Also some people expect the air suspension will last forever ......
Hi, that was a very good review, currently looking for a nice Range Rover, this review really helps, cheers
Loved the video thank you :)
I enjoy very much your presentations they are like a narration, love it! Liked and (already) subscribed! 👍
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