Can You Install Ceramic Coatings Outside?
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Lots of great advice Jon. I applied EVO ONE outside and ran into no issues at all - definitely possible to do, not a surprise as Gyeon have designed them to be outside friendly.
I have old pure in my G20, applied 1 year ago. After 70 or so hand washes still works very well.
Very much recommended (Pure).
Jon I actually love this format type. Like a full job type video. Exactly how you laid it out with the sped up areas the pause for explanations etc. seriously quality video lol. I came back for another view.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, love the enthusiasm for all things detailing, and the encyclopedic knowledge, cannot help but smile at the title, including the word outside, then you apply it in a garage ...
I do it very often, but have to be sure the temperature and humidity when applying are within an optimal range otherwise it's a real pain in the butt to work with for one of a number of reasons.
I use / sell the gyeon evo line , cancoat , one and mohs. I work out side under a 10 x 20 shelterlogic. I go over the coatings with cure no matter the weather forecast. What may be nice weather where I am may not be 20 miles away the next day . Just a habit I got into . Costs a little more but I feel it's well spent for peace of mind.
You are a real MASTER John. Watching ALL of your videos and learning sooooooo much. This channel is number one for car detailing. Your tests all so detailed like this passion/work/activity/art should be! We should be all thankful to you, your time and your love in sharing your WORK. You are teaching a lot of things and this is real GOOD. God bless you. King bless you and old Queen Elizabeth bless you, man ❤
thanks mate but im sooo far from a master... more a bodger but yer I like the testing stuff I try to do a good job with this
@@ForensicDetailing you do It very well 👌🤙 and Is fantastic to Hear you joking and laughing doing serious things. And, not second, I Discovered Built Hamber products I want to try soon. Same for a lot of Koch Chemie, like polishes line.
Don t want to talk about brands. Built Hamber not very popular in Italy but seems great!
P.s. and your Porsche and the grey BMW are lovely!
I have applied a coating outside (albeit under a pop up awning) and found it fine, and other times have had (not applying ceramic) all sorts of contaminants thrown up on the vehicle with cars going past. My best advice would be to assess, and try to control your conditions if possible. I would also say that after working with VERY experienced people that you do need optimum conditions (inside) if you are to get the claimed durability from them
I applied this to a new car outside in South FL sun one panel at a time after full decon and panel prep, applied it, waited 30 seconds to a minute leveled off no issues but yeah had to move fast in the humidity. That was about 6 months ago. Super glossy not very slick though. it's still performing like day 1 . great coating great company great pricing. if you're thinking of dog a coating this is one of the great ones. 💪 easy peavey 😅
Jon, last Sunday I decided to apply Gyeon Mohs to my new car because there was no rain in the forecast (I live in south Florida in the U.S. and don't have garage access). I coated the car and two hours later I applied a layer of Gyeon Cure. Three hours later a lone rain cloud dumped a lot of water on the car. I was afraid to go outside to look, fearing that the coating was ruined. But when I checked, most of the rain had been shed off the car and tiny beads of water were on the flat portions. I used my air blower to remove the remaining water and everything seemed to be good. I haven't washed the car yet, waiting another day or two before that happens. I was shocked to see that the coating had cured enough to withstand the rain after only five hours.
maybe the heat and wind helped in curing time 🤷🏻♂️
@@HydraDnB I'm thinking the heat definitely helped because it was very hot and sunny for the five hours before the rain.
i think you can about 90-95% cure in 1-2 hours. but its vulnerable to water spotting at that point typically so I think putting cure on was a good idea.
@@ForensicDetailing Yes, that's why I did it after hearing about applying a "sacrificial layer" of protection to save the ceramic coating.
Of course it rained lol. It rains every single day in Florida 😂. I'm jk. More courage then I have that's for sure. It'll go weeks without rain where I'm at and I still haven't applied my coating because I don't have a garage to do it in
Just have to say pure EVO is my favourite, that new formula.. So easy to apply and long wiping time.
You can do for example hood+both front fenders, then wipe. Easily..
Gyeon says up to 10 minutes, no hurry at all.
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It's always a bit of a lottery putting ceramic coatings on outside with weather and other contaminates but I guess not everyone can get a vehicle under cover.
Conduct many coating over the year and it’s all common sense.
Todays coatings are easily applied and buffed off.
I have had the odd day where rain fell at the end of the day and coating unaffected.
I carry out a free “test wash” around 6 weeks later to check beading and sheeting plus gloss levels.
I plan on doing decon/polish/coating of my 2022 Elantra N next weekend during the holiday weekend. It only has 3700 miles on it and has been VERY well maintained since I got it, heres the process:
1. Bilt-Hamber Korrosol chemical decon
2. Bilt-Hamber Auto-foam pre-wash
3. Bilt-Hamber AutoWash
4. Griot's Garage clay towel
5. Gyeon Prep
6. 303 Polish
-GG3 & GG6 w/ orange pads
7. Gyeon Pure EVO
TAC system Rain Coat for the glass and Feynlab Black Velvet Tire Coating for the Michelins. I'm hoping the Detailing God's give me a good 48 hr window as I'm outside. It's going to kill me to not wash it for a week but been there, done that😇
7 months on, how’d you get on?
@MJPercy the coating is going strong! We had a mild winter here in Chicagoland but I have a monthly subscription at the touch-free wash near my work, so I've been keeping it clean. I also did RW during the winter on warmer days and Bilt-Hamber Auto-foam or Touchless pre-washes before going into the touch-free wash once a week or so.
@@klasseact6663 so you'd recommend? I live in the UK and scared I'll mess it up lol
Great video. I just coated my car with Pure Evo and found the buff to be grabby. Although the temperature was cool (22C) it was humid. Not sure if that contributed. I think that Gyeon saying "no rush" to buffing it off does the user a disservice since I was torn between making sure that it was properly cured and avoiding wipe-off struggle. In any event, the car looks glossy and I'm pleased with the result. Will probably use MOHS next time.
I appreciate your education on this topic Jon, because I have wondered the same thing. No garage, driveway warrior. Very simply, I just don’t have the confidence to do it. I have been using Jescar’s Ultra Lock Sealant with very good results. But who knows, I may just take your advice and see if a good friend wants to surrender their garage to me for a few days. Another great topic and video. Till the next one.
I personally use C.Quartz 3.0 which was conceived for mobile detailers! You should definitely give it a go I really like this coating!
Who needs the Gym Jon, a proper workout there! Did a full day on my car in July, with a decon, two stage polish and LSP - Brutal 😁
It would be nice to see you try and apply Gyeon Synchro to BMW Imperial Blue paint that shows the slightest imperfections. Skin is a nightmare to apply, when you provide a demo you used a white car which will allow for some imperfections in the application.
Hay Jon great video. Did I miss something I thought this was to be done outside with all the difficulties that entails but to give confidence to people with out or with small garages or am I wrong if I am please except my apologies?
Never write before getting to the end. It would be nice to see outside with all the difficulties though.
James
I thought the same???? Haha
I’m sure these ceramic coating are fantastic but at the age of 64 I’m not sure I want to apply something that may out live me besides that I enjoy waxing 4 times a year prepping polishing waxing is a therapeutic exercise
"Well said", it's my physio too, far more beneficial than photocopy moves handed out by a 3-letter national organisation. I [we] enjoy the obsessive side in addition to the looking outside later at your toil. I'd say fine if you’re on a 2-year PCP and chuck the car back, occasionally scrub a yellow sponge on every 6 weeks but for others who aren’t that interested in bottle claims but read their paint and water behaviour to judge when they can have their next session, compare their next product, that is their passion. Ultimately until the Gretas' dictate cars have even thinner clear than supplied now, we'll keep going until having a coat is a factory option to save the clear washing through to base on its first contact wash.
@@jusb1066 I use BSD as well and after heavy rain, it is basically a free car wash.
The main reasons for always coating my paint work rather than using short term products are. 1 a good coating will be more resistant to bird shit etching or waterspotting and either occurs the etching is most likely only going to be in the coating which can be polished and reapplied unlike clear coat. 2 Any wash related lightly scratches will likely not have made it into the clear and instead are just in the coating which can be polished. 3 when deep scratches do occur, I like the idea that the coating will take some of that scratch.
@@KiranPatel-fk1pg you want PPF ... Not something out of a tub or bottle. Nothing out of a tub or bottle will take scratches.
Bird poo can be washed off easily. Most, you don't even need to touch it, just running water. Leaving bird poo on for long also contradict your OCD on paint protection.
Any decent spray sealant will last 2-3 months. Enough until the next wash when it can be topped up. Once or twice a year polish, then a top layer is what most people need to achieve the nice look.
Just pointing out your inconsistencies where you are absolutely anal about protection but worry about bird poo really .
@@TsLeng Leaving bird poo on paint for a long enough time can most definitely etch the paint, a coating stops this. No spray product will. This is a fact. Ceramic coatings also add the tiniest amount of protection meaning that very very minor scratches are taken by the coating and not your clear. Hence many people even use a fine polish to polish there coating once it becomes scratched.
applied this yesterday outside , high humidity , not ideal , took quite a bit to remove it all , car looked good though
Why did you buff directly after applying?
You could surely do 2 panels and then buff.
Up to 10 minutes
Hi John
Loved the demo Vid
One thing I noticed was the wool pad and polish enough to remove defects such as swirls and hazing
As after decon and claying I normally use Megs compound then a polish
Wool is generally aggressive than foam. But doesn't finish out as well. This yellow rupes wool is great.
Thanks Jon! Very interesting. One question I have is does morning dew overnight affect the durability of a coating if it is left outside after being coated? It should be a good few hours until that forms on the car depending on the conditions but I’m interested to know if it makes much difference? Thanks! Bri. 👍
Should be fine m8 just keep detergents off it for a few days
@@ForensicDetailing nice one thanks! 👍
less stress with a pop-up gazebo/awning
So, can you apply it outside?
And then proceeds to apply indoors?
So is the reality avoid applying outdoors unless no alternative. Better of sticking with BH double speed wax?
Just what I was thinking.......that was not done outside!!!!!!!
Love to see a ceramic foam comparison
Great video as usual John. Just wondering, what's you view on Diamondbrite? It seems to be the product pushed by most car dealers.
not used mate, the diamondbrite stuff seems more dealership driven like you say.
Video demo ive been looking for. Great stuff! Can we layered it multiple times?
you can but its been designed for single layer application really. wait 1 hour between layer
Hi John, bit confusing this video. After starting by explaining how a coating CAN be applied outside, at the end you say you have “failed” on this occasion. Why did you fail exactly? What happened to change your mind? Looking forward to the Can Coat test. Do you use a resin-based filtered water system for the final rinse? If not, have you tested these systems? I am thinking of getting one of these systems and did a test by misting Halfords deionised water onto a red hot panel and left it for an hour in the sun - water disappeared and left no streaks or water spots - brilliant!
🤣 35:43 ❤ the voice! keep it! 🤣😂
Another great ‘how to’ video John 👍🏽 Do you know the suitability of this product for single stage / non clear coat paint?
coatings not great on most types of single stage mate. if its really old an old enamel single stage or even a cellulose single stage I would not bother with a coating mate. just wax it.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply. The paint is on a 1982 truck so 41 years old.. so as you recommend I’ll give the coatings a miss.
I can get the paintwork back to being really good but one side keeps getting hammered by the sun and losing its shine pretty quick which is a shame.
So after testing out their entire evo line, which was your personal favorite? Pure or Mohs? Is there a visual difference at all?
Hi Jon.
I have been watching a lot of videos about car washing, polishing and coating.
It's not often we see the cars get washed inside of the doors, trunk.
Same with polishing and coating.
Does that mean you and other known car detailers often skip that?
I always washes under and inside the doors and I always put coating there.
Maybe that's why I feel I use so much coating on every car 😁
Depends what your aim is. I have one day to wash decon and polish and coat. So no engine bay dressing no glass protection etc.. but other times I do more
Gonna get synergy lite on my car on Monday. Il see how that goes lol
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How many clothes used? Only baldwipe, no softwipe?
For a beginner in coatings what would you suggest pure or one? The goal is protection, durability and self cleaning first and gloss, slickness, beading latter.
I would use 4 to 5 balds and 1 softwipe for after buff. Go with mohs as the coating
I used a total of 2 Bald Wipes and 2 Soft Wipes, tho I think 1 soft wipe is fine. I numbered the bald wipe sides and used a different side after each panel.
It's not really outside if it's in the garage with the door open 😅
Thought you'd leave it on the driveway 🤔
Edit: oh you mention why at the end 🙈
Does garage door being open constitute being outside😂😂
You didn't confirm if it was a 4 year coating?
hey i was wondering if after i apply the ceramic coat and leave the car outside and notice some dust particles on my car, should i remove them or just leave it to let the coat cure?
leave them mate. the coating reaches a decent level of curing after 30-60 minutes "generally" your above 95% cured (generally guessing etc). only wipe off dust if it falls onto a wet coating immedietly after application.
Looks good product,was it a 30ml bottle or 50ml ? Also how much did you have left ?
Watch end of video m8 I show this
@@ForensicDetailing seen how much you used but didn’t catch what mm bottle you used.
I swear I was just googling this two days ago
You were in a garage applying it…. Why is the video called, can you apply ceramic coating outside ???
The problem being that the weather can never be 100% predicted. Then the other environmental factors such as dust, pollen, and only takes one of those seagulls to poop on the car. I see that in this video you yourself moved inside and then you decided to leave in the garage whilst it cured. Proving my point. I do love your videos though and you do some brilliant reviews and comparisons and throw in humour into what can be a dry subject.
John, I thought the question was "Can you install ceramic coatings outside?". Sadly I think you've just answered NO as you did this in your garage rather than outside in what appeared to be ideal conditions 😢.
😂😂😂
@@ForensicDetailing I'm going to try out the viability of applying a coating outside 🙂. I've got Gtechniq GSL and EVO arriving this weekend for 'basecoat' of GSL and then 2 coats of EVO. Just need the weather to give me 3 days of light cloud and no rain 🤣. Gave the car a thorough wash today with BH products and not sure it even needs a claybar but will do one just in case, and then a very light machine polish and panel wipe as the Glacier White Metallic on my S3 had a full coating 2000 miles and 4 years ago and seems to be in superb condition. Looking to make maintenance mainly true touchless snowfoam with monthly contact wash. I'll let you know how it goes, and thanks for all the incredibly useful CZcams vids!
I thought the whole point of this video was install outside? Like a mobile detailer would have to.
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35:42 joanne is that you?
Install? … when you’ve installed your overalls and shoes and installed your PPE … go for the installation 🤔
When I _install_ I wear a black adidas tracksuit a wife beater and no underwear
I think PPE would also include a mask?
Would be more concerned about breathing in this stuff than spilling a bit on my clothes!!!!!
So… you wanted to know if you could do it outside so… you did it in your garage? 😂🤦♂️
Don't ever ceramic coat outside in a bikini 👙
Pyramid car care pro doesn’t need all this bullshit yr talking about. Waiting 8 hrs ???? This is the one video that makes me feel like you really need to connect with the mobile Detailer’s. Disappointed
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