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NEW & IMPROVED formula FUSSO Coat - Is it worth £31?
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- New Fusso Coat REVIEW by soft 99.
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Wax which creates hydrophobic and protective durable coating for up to 12 months. Thanks to unique fluoropolymers, the coating. The paint is protected against the effects of rain, UV radiation and road salt. The product is dedicated to light colored paintwork.
1. Prepare your car by carefully washing it with neutral pH shampoo, drying and decontaminating the surface using clay, cleaner, or other products of this kind.
2. Get the minimum amount of product on the pad by applying gentle pressure to the surface of the wax and moving pad in a can.
3. Spread an even and possibly thin layer of wax with cross-motion, working panel by panel.
4. Wait about 5-8 minutes for the wax to bind with the paint. The higher temperature, the shorter time needed.
5. Polish the residue with a clean and dry microfiber cloth, frequently changing its side or replacing it with fresh one.
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“New & Improved” almost always means more profitable for a company and thus lower quality or effectiveness than the original. Good to know the change won’t be too drastic a difference.
You've asked and answered the question we've all had since the revamp was launched. I still have the old one and I'll skip the new one. Good testing as always, Mr D 👍
Thank you for doing this comparison, I've just taken delivery of Fusso for the first time and had been kicking myself once i saw a new version was to be released.
Great video, not kicking myself anymore.
Same here, had it a few months. Relieved now - goes off to sniff the tin :-)
@@WestfieldFreshAir every time I use fusso I sniff the tin for a few minutes, ahhhh like fresh air in the early morning.
🤷♂️ Feels a bit cynical. “We need to make more money - increase the price and make it less durable. It smells different, they will never catch on 😉💴”. I will be buying old stock whilst it’s available. I like the smell 😱
So I can, and have got 6 bottles of Turtlewax Hydrophobic Sealant for the same price of the new Fusso. I'm sure they will give me better, easier results and the 6 bottles should last me way longer than the one tin of Fusso. Just my opinion but nice unbiased advice as always Jon, thank you. 👍🏻
Yep... the new liquid wax/sealants are so much easier.
Turtle wax and meguiars hybrid ceramic are so cheap, easy, and perform so good that these past waxes are completly off my enthusiants arsenal.
So overall its potentially worse for a 50% price hike... bad news I'd say. Good review Jon. 👍
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*SEALANT!!!!*
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@@DetailingandtheBeast SEALANT WAX :)
Hopefully they will still make the old formula and maybe the price of the new one will go down as supply goes up.
@@kakashi99908 oh I would be mad if they discontinued it. If they did, I will make the full switch to tw s&s. Fusso still repels water better but masking off my trim is a pain in the ass.
Didn’t think it was 50% more like 10% increase no ?????.
Nice as always!! Can you do a video with collinite 845 and other collinite products please
dunno if you guys gives a shit but if you're stoned like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my gf for the last months :)
@Terrence Lachlan Yup, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
@Terrence Lachlan yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
I completely agree, the old Fusso looks amazing and beads water like nothing when freshly applied but quickly fades and looks like it's not really there.
I have to admit to being a bit child-like in finding a decent smell very important. Detailing is supposed to be fun and relaxing for me, and a stinky product just muddles the experience. Also, as important as durability is, when you like detailing, I doubt you want to wait 12 months before putting on a new wax/sealant/whatevs. Maybe "being able to get through winter" is a better benchmark, as it's a bit less fun to detail in the cold/rain/snow. So in that respect I suspect the new version would suit me better - after I have tried out the other 4 waxes I still have to test out.
I might be an alien, but I prefer the smell. It gets your head in the game like an abusive head coach. You have to really pay attention and execute the application…but when you get it right, it’s like hitting a ball through someone.
Yeah. Through someone.
Good review, Jon! I'm a big fan of Fusso Coat (I still have quite a lot of the old stuff left!). I put up with the stinky smell to get that performance. I protect all wheel rims (off the car) with Fusso to make them easier to clean. All the best, Rob
For me here in Canada, any daily driver needs something with PTFE. Not enough longevity with anything else because of the salty dirty road conditions. I like and use Fusso 99 because its a good value even if it doesn't have the best gloss possible. Add 50% to the price... I guess I'll be looking for a replacement.
Go to the Soft99 USA site, get the old formula for $33, and never look back.
@@snail415 no shipping to Canada
Thanks fusso,new formula and all that. Now everyone will go on amazon and order at least one old fusso since new one is worse but 10 bucks more expensive.
Thanks for the review. You just saved me some money. I'll stick with my old tin of Fusso.
I’ve stocked up on the “old fusso” this eve.
pro tip : you can watch series on flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
Fusso Coat 99 longevity leaves more time to clean the engine, wheel wells, and suspension with Wipe New.
I've used Fusso for 3 years and my tin looks full, otherwise I would have been over applying and cursing it. I see no need to buy the New Fusso, until my old tin is empty, in about 40 or 50 years.
I bought a tin of fusso light/white 2 years ago at waxstock,. Used it twice i think. Now its not because its not good but i find the application and removal not as nice as others. Now last year at waxstock i picked up soft 99 premium authentic, wow, that stuff is good, bought o
Another tin this year at waxstock. Buy a tin mate and try it. Gloss is lush
Great video John. Thanks for that, I'll stick with my Autoglym Ultra HD. I'm not fussed about durability as my truck gets washed and polished every week. So as long as I see beads of water being shed at speeds of 30mph and above for 6 days I'm happy.
Outstanding review as always, thank you! I had recently visited the Nippon Shine website and saw the "new" Soft99 Fusso and wondered what had improved for a £10 price increase, and thanks to you I now know.
I would be interested some day if you would be able to set your test panel up with all of the Soft99 waxes, so we could see the real differences between Kiwami, King of Gloss and Fusso. That would be useful for a luddite such as myself who is looking for a "wax" that I only have to apply once or twice per year to the new car that I am getting next month. Thanks Jon!
It’s been done. Search for it. To save you the trouble:
You wanna stick with old formulas, dark versions for their minor filling ability, and practice your ass off. Takes skill to use, but it’s still the best.
Absolutely!! Easy to use!.long lasting
Especially pair with Soft99 scratch shampoo...
But to be fair, do a decontamination or TRF first
I absolutely loved the old version. I have used the new formula a few times now. I find it hard to work with, I don't seem to be able to get a nice even thin coat when applying it. It seems to dry much quicker than the old formula. I also liked the smell of the old version. For me. I will not be buying the new fusso any more. Such a shame. Now I will be watching CZcams into the early hours, To find a replacement.
Just came across this review. I just used the old version on 2 of my cars, one is fire red the other is deep red. Both cars were properly prepared, wash/clay/polished. Both cars surface did suffer from the “ghosting” you mentioned. It does wipe off but it does keep reappearing. However the water repellency and self cleaning abilities are astounding.
I think they use a lot of paraffin wax in this, just as a guess. because when you go above like 3-4% parrafin wax overall you get this like hologram greasy thing going on. But high parafine backboned waxes have crazy repellency, where as load of nuba backboned waxes hinder the repellency. so I think this is how they did it. Then within this theres like some bad ass fluropolyer (sp?) binding it all together which I think adds to the repellency but also makes it last a long time on the panel. Old Fusso is a brutal product in some ways (Toulene, Xylene, Keresone! and it stinks so bad like a petrol station) but like Ive never seen any "non" ceramic product get close to its durability (or its ability to demonstrate repelling water). Some people go nuts for this product but I would not even consider putting it on my black E36 which has good paintwork now. but for the short time I used to do payed detailing this was the most popular product and people loved it because they noticed it working for months and months in UK wet conditions.
@@ForensicDetailing John thanks for replying. I really really appreciate it. You’re explanation I think is spot on. I live in the southeastern U.S.. It gets very hot and very humid here. Most summer days are 90-95% humidity. So I’m curious as to how Fusso is gonna handle that. No question water just won’t stay on the car and even if I leave it to dry on its own…there’s no water spotting! Matter of fact this stuff doesn’t even like car soap on it…just sheds it right off😂! I’m tentative though about putting it on customers cars…because of the “film or ghosting” it does on mine. However everyone is blown away by how my car looks especially when it rains.
John you know another thing about people’s opinion about Fusso that I find ridiculous. They say it isn’t as glossy as others. Technically on a gloss meter it might not be. However it’s been scientifically proven that the human eye can’t tell the difference of +/- 5 units of gloss on a meter. In other words if I put my Fusso car next to yours and mine is 90 and yours is 94 on the meter our eyes won’t see the difference. So it’s a ridiculous argument. Plus Fusso is making my car look like liquid glass, I’m constantly getting comments on it.
There’s a video on Pro Detailer with Damian Milibrand from Soft 99, sounds like the change could be to do with chemical regulations.
I tried Fusso Coat for the hydrophobicity/sheeting and low or no maintenance compared to a ceramic coating. I didn't wet the applicator before applying and it went on super thick and was difficult to remove (doesn't mention wetting it on the can). Also the wax dried way faster than the time listed on the instructions. When the Fusso car is outside and it rains the water does not all sheet off the car. There are still water spots the next day. The spots are, however, easy to remove with a spray bottle and microfiber. The gloss isn't crazy like a ceramic but really its not a fair comparison when you factor in cost.
try put on really thin layer in a cross hatch
Great vid. I was wondering what the difference was with the old one. Love those thorough product reviews. Well done.
Cheers again for this cannot wait to apply it to the GT86 I’m getting.
Solid review. Appreciate your hard work mate.
Respect the review mate as always 👍🏼👊🏼
If you've been using old one and you're still alive 😂😂👍🏻
I had the old fusso turn up today but saw this video a few days after I ordered it. Was debating whether to return it and get the new one, but happily after watching today I’m chuffed the old one stands up. Can’t wait to try it out for the first time
I really hope you kept that tin of the old stuff.
@@snail415 yep, still using it.
Nice video, thanks for saving my money. Eventhough I still can't find new fusso coat in Taiwan now.
The auto detailing soap opera introduces a new character.
Hahaha love it... “if you’ve used the old one and your still alive” 😆😆😆
I wonder if this has been a clever marketing ploy by fusso, they release an excellent product onto the market, with no aggressive marketing, and at a reasonable cost, we do the product exposure for them, then they come in with virtually the same product as a "new improved formula" and at the new high price, and we fall for the ploy, I think I will just buy some more Kinami while it is available. Thanks for the info on this!
no I think its more health and safety mate, removing some of the more harmfull solvents from the old product. yes you could say in the process they have used it as an opportunity to make a new improved formula. The problem is its not improved durability or value for money or water repellency... so yer its tough to do this type of review and I would prefer to be saying go an buy the new one.. but I cant roll that way.
John once again love the vid, in such a short space of time you have me a bit hooked on detailing.
The only issue i've ever had with Fusso was not the wax it's self but the applicator, the standard foam applicator did leave almost ghosting on a dark blue van i waxed a while back but if you bin that and use a quality applicator the original Fusso is a great low maintenance wax. All that said though your quite right about the gloss, looks great when it's fresh but first time it rains or is washed the gloss level drops even though the water repellency stays very high. IMHO Fusso is a no frills workhorse of a wax.
Hmmm me thinks I’ll buying two pots of old 😁
Thanks for the review Jon 👍🏼👌🏼👍🏼
So 50% more expensive to smell better? I just don't get the whole sniffy shit. I'm waxing my truck, not baking a cake or getting ready for a date. I could give a crap about the smell. I still have 3/4 of a tin of original Fusso and it's still my favorite non-ceramic coating protectant.
Great video John
I’ve used the first version it’s amazing product yes the durability is crazy
But can you use this on top of ceramic coat , will it damage the coat
Like always great video
As ever good review Jon
I don’t find fumes that bad with original Fusso, but I’ll bin the applicator and microfibers after use, no way those chemicals are going in my washing machine.
Would love to see a test between paste waxes that have been formulated for durability and longevity.. Fusso, Waxaddict Kudos, Swissvax shield, FK1000p etc
They do wash out bro
mr Heisenberg I don’t trust the chemicals hanging around in the machine that I wash my clothes in
This reminds me of when Iru Bru changed there recipe and made it worse 😒 WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!!! I hope there not like Barr and ignore the feedback from customers 🤨
@Hell N Degeneratescourse that's why is sold worldwide lol
news to me but hell yeah man
@Hell N Degenerates weird shit but i cant say i will stop drinking my favourite drink of all time SODA POP
I never tried fusso but from.the video reminds me of klasse. Always enjoy your videos thank you
Used the old and the new one. Didn’t really see much difference, if you don’t care about the higher price it’s still a solid product
Great review, Jon. 👍My go to wax for the winter has been Collinite 476s. It would be great to see a comparison, as my twelve year old tub of 476s is almost empty.
It has been a great wax to get my daily through the winter months, here in the High Peak.
prefer Collinite 915 topping with 845, my favorite
Am i glad that i purchased an old can, soon they will be no more available....👍🏽
Great review Jon! Can you doing something similar with soft99 speed and barrier?
I use this and love it BUT Im holding off buying the new one until its had some time out on real life testing . All 3 of the households cars have it on and it always works well when topped with King of Gloss / Kiwami . I do need some more of this but I will hang fire until its been tested for a months in real time . I want to hope its a improvement as I love all of the Soft99 range and will buy it I guess at some point
I know you want to test it against other paste coatings Jon but... Wowo's Crystal Sealant. Put my money on it giving the new Fusso a run for it's money.
Good review as always mate, been contemplating giving fusso another go. Just keep it away from any good cloths this time 🤣
Except you can't get wowos crystal sealant any more sadly
@@havitoldulately You can. Old formula is still available from resellers around the country. New formula (along with the full range revamp) should be available online soon, site just needs updated.
Tried to order from the only 2 places I could find that list it last week both cancelled as no stock. Apparently wowo was bought by an American company?
@@havitoldulately Not bought as far as I am aware. It's P&S from memory and they are taking on distributing it in the states. Fraser still runs it in the UK.
In finland we have notice fusso is weak on road salt?. And i notice chalc."white stuff wich makes tap water Hard"?. Dont dry your car after wash and u notice all drymarks are through wax. My experience awesome pruduct otherwise
Great review again Jon🇺🇸🛎
I LOVE Soft 99 waxes, but I struggle to see the actual difference and know their best waxes.
Light - hard wax
Dark - Soft wax
Fusso - Good gloss, highest durability
King of Gloss - not the king of gloss
Kiwami - The actual king of gloss, their best gloss?!
I bought the black King of Wax thinking it as the best and it wasn't, according to Nippon Shine.
Fantic1980 it all come downs to preference the king of gloss is more of a synthetic finish and the Kiwami is carnauba side of finish.
The flagship however is the authentic premium.
Appreciate you clearing that shit up for us.
I had a feeling the new one wouldn't be as Good, or last as long. It may only be a slight difference but it's still a difference. This is annoying because I really like the old fusso.
This is my favourite currently. Just done a video with it for my channel too.
I’ll stick to Collinite 845 thanks
I love collinite 845,I use it. But it doesnt come close to fussos durability.
I have the feeling that the haze problem (when overapplying) is also causing the loss of gloss/shine after a short time. I have seen quite a few videos of Fusso now where you can see haze on the paint after applying, like the paint got compounded but not polished afterwards.
Thanks for these video. Can you do video on car gods 54 review please
there made by car plan i hered
or Tetrosyl
Read "OCD Fusso" on the board at first :)
I can get 6 months with Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax with good surface preparation and it does give better gloss than Fusso. So there is no more point to buy new Fusso then. Also meguiar's aerosol wax can do almost 12 months, though no gloss at all with it.
Which is the Original Dark?? 1) The whole can including Instruction in Japanese and the color is White Cream; Not much odor smell.. 2) Outer can has Japanese Characters and Instruction is in English; Color is Light Green; Odor is sweet smelling. Which is the ORIGINAL FORMULA?? #1 or #2
Old and new are both green. So 1 might be a fugazee
Collinite, fk1000, bilt hamber, then some like Jay's wax ceramic etc all under £40
I've always had really good results and long durability from collinite 915. =)
Would be nice to do a comparison with collinite paste wax and fk1000p
Which four wax review is coming? What do you think is 21€ reasonable price for new Fusso?
21 euro sounds very reasonable to me.
@@ForensicDetailing Any new findings about gloss and durability? What about how well it keeps car clean?
Can you please do a video on the soft99 H9 dual layer ceramic coating? keen to see your thoughts on it
John have you reviewed garage therapy. Decon shampoo I like the lubricity of it that stands out for me
I have just shot a video of it. at some stage ill compare it to a few others as well. its cool stuff very powerfull but looks and handles like a nice fluffy sudsy slick shampoo..
Im finding it quite hard to decide between SOFT99 Fusso Coat and Bilt-Hamber Double speed wax. Which would you recommend to a beginner? Any input always welcome. Thanks
Same here.
Hi,
What would you recommend for somebody who isn't really into detailing cars to get swirl marks out?
I have a red dc5 which is 16 years old. The paint is in great condition but has loads of swirls in it. As you can appreciate I'm a bit apprehensive about buying a machine polisher and ruining the paint.
You wont ruin the paint tom. With heavy swirls a glaze wont cut it (literally and metaphorocially) have a watch of my videos the (updated one) on how to polish a car with a DA. That honda paint will polish up butifully. Get yourself a DAS6 pro. Get some white hex logic pads, or yellow rupes pads. get some sonax perfect finish (250ml bottle) . wash and clay and dry it. Then polish it mate. follow the video.. Its not hard I promise you. You will not ruin anything and it will take your detailing to the next level.
Seeing collimate 845 on your channel would be great buddy! Any chance of it? Its meant to be very popular over in America
HELP NEEDED!!!!! I bought a Fusso 99 product last year, didn't realise there were different waxes in the range, they all look the same. The one I bought was the Soft99 420 Dark and Black version. No instructions or even english on the packaging. After a day of polishing out all the swirls, I proceeded to apply and then buff off as you had shown in your video, it was getting dark by then but looked great. Only noticing the next day in the sun that the car looks as if I have taken a metal scouring pad to my bonnet. Looking back at my order on the website it says "No drying or wiping off required. The newly developed microparticle formulation swiftly repairs scratches, while forming a protective layer of hard wax"
Any ideas on the best way of removing this stuff and starting again??
I've tried using Meguiar's Wash Plus on it, but it doesn't touch this stuff at all, even after three washes... Any advice welcome.
Get yourself an IPA and panel wipe, I use Gtechniq
Old and new Fusso, is there any difference in curing time? Would a little rain be an issue ? I remember I hesitated when I chose my 1rst wax and finally opted for Collinite 845. Thanks for this video 🤗
they cured at the same rate when I side by sided them delphine
Put this on my car last week, the only difference I noticed was the smell. Personally I don't think it's worth the €12 price increase. Will have to play the waiting game to see the duration
That red beemer of yours must be the cleanest in the uk
Is autosmart hard wax any good or competitive against fusso. autosmart is about £28 for 170g so not much in it really price wise. just wondering as am thinking about getting one for them or can you recommend a better one
Will i be able to machine polished lets says after 5 months after i applied this? Thanks
getting some old pots in before they vanish
To update Im just wondering now. Could it be like some food items where they say updated recipy but you can't taste the difference?
What do u think of the auto finesse product line ???
I had almost 11 months out of old fusso, had just over 8 months with the new one… I was expecting worse so can’t grumble 😂
I still like the finish of Meguirs Ultimate paste wax. Been tempted to treat myself and get some next level shit. Any suggestions? A nice smell is always welcome
g4rr377 what is your durability with UPW? I got about 2 months. Is your experience different?
I actually prefer collinite 476
Maybe they had to change solvent and the new one is more expensive.
How many other waxes have been or are going to be reformulated cos of the new regs???
I want to Fusso wax a new car - what do you recommend to remove whatever the garage has applied before I apply Fusso? Isopropyl 50:50 do it? Or Garage Therapy /zero? Or something else? Cheers.
Only a polish can remove it really Koch M3 on soft pad
Ive just ordered the new one and this vid popped up lol got it on IODETAIL comes with a bottle of soft 99 raindrop for £34
Hi Jon, is fusso coat really can use for headlights and taillights? how about chrome parts and piano black trim?
yes mate can be used on any gloss finish I think
Thank you 🙏
I'll take 3rd I guess.
Any idea what the complete cure time is for the original Fusso? Never understood why companies decide to "fix" something that isn't broken? I've stocked up on the old formula. Are you still of the opinion that topping Fusso with something like Shinee Wax is a bad idea? Just looking to add some wet depth/gloss to the paint on my GT4.
I think its to do with laws around what you can use in the UK or EU. so when fusso is fresh and buzzing I would leave it alone, just wash the car and let the product do its thing. buts after 3-4 months you could use a nice SI02 spray or shine wax, or soft 99 speed barrier on top if you want to boost beading.
the wet look gloss will come from the physical gloss in the paintwork not the fusso. this is an important rule.
Anyone know where I can still buy the old fusso in the US?
Luv your vids John and am always hitting the like button. But this one is you sitting too much on the fence. Basically the new product is £11 more expensive and in your admittedly limited tests proved inferior to the old one bar the fragrance. C'mon John call it out!
You dont sit on the fence by comparing the new one to the old one and suggesting its more expensive and not as durable... you just announce the new one, show people a few money shots and tell them to go buy it... All the info you need to know about new fusso is in the video. And later on down the line you will see how new fusso compares to other products on the market. Thats how FDC rolls I have no interest in doing anything else, but you also have to conduct yourself professionally when you review things, or else all sorts of lovely crap goes down behind the scenes you dont get to see. I just searched for other reviews, theres some german ones there. Go have a watch and see if any of the negatives I raised where even mentioned?
@@ForensicDetailing All good!
so how can a decon shmpoo be more powerfull then wheel cleaner
Test Willson PRX premium.
No, it's not worth extra 10£. I'm petrolhead, I kind of like the smell of old Fusso, just like the smell of petrol. I don't see any point spending more money on product that doesnt last longer or give any better results. If I want good smelling wax, I buy CG or Dodo wax.
Can I apply hybrid ceramic wax on top of the fusso?
yes
Can you use fusso coat on headlights and tail lights?
Yes
Whats the cure time for the first
Ten min
Black roof, light rest....
Which tin???
does not matter at all. 100% truth.
I'm left wondering, what was the point of going 'new' ? Fusso has a big following, if it ain't broke why fix it?
So they can charge more for it........ ££££££
Collinite 845 forever!
collinite 915 topping with 845 = WOW
Just not sure any wax is worth the effort anymore- so many easier sealants and coatings
Was thinking the same thing but the only thing I think about is when I'm cleaning on a warm day as I don't want that liquid sealant to dry and mark the paint. I can park my car in the garage and apply the wax and sealant in the shade