The decider version of this missing information is super interesting. I dunno if hypocrisy is *exactly* the right word for it but I don't have a better one right now. It's kind of like...the IxxPs are paying attention to how their actions reflect on them as an individual, and are expecting to be judged by them, but are totally ignoring how they look on their De spectrum, while the ExxJs are doing the reverse and ignoring how their actions reflect on them specifically. It's something I can immediately see, in function-specific ways, in a few people in my life. Definitely something to keep in mind in the future.
@@MrLuigiFercotti At face value, I tend to agree. Depends on a lotta depends tho... Meaning, if they're the type(s) of person/people who should be wearing them (& could benefit from a laxative) 🤣
Sup Stan!? (I remember you & Power.Red.Bull from waaay back-CS Joseph embryonic stages...etc..etc.. Dolf Dervish here. Ya'll'r OG's, Homey!). Regarding "hypocrisy" (&/or "contradiction), I prefer the term: "Paradox" {&/or "exception(s)-caveat: as long as it/they *actually* is/are, LoL); I also like the term: "Blind spot(s).. (I mostly use the term: "Hypocrisy" if someone is stubborn about it... *Especially* & particularly if they're the type to point blind spots out in others & *refuse* mutual Respect/their blind spots to be vetted)}. Tom Bilyeu did a recent interview with Mathew McConaughey, in which MMC covers this (quite well imo). What're your reflections on the aforementioned? 🤔
The single observer version of the people fears is super interesting too. Thingifying people and turning whole categories of them into a projection of observer fear can lead to lethal conclusions, as we see with alleged double-deciders like Hitler and Putin.
@@Heart.headed Nice nice, I remember some of your old comments from back in the day. "Blind spot" is a pretty good catch-all term. "Paradox" to me suggests in particular a logical inconsistency which doesn't necessarily apply to every case, but it's not a bad choice either
Intuitives not rocking the boat too hard, cause they're aware that they might need something in the future. People may mistake this as letting people walk over you, but it is more of a soft calculation. Very true observation.
Why do I always rock the boat and burn bridges as an INFP? I also write off and ghost people. If I need something I feel I need to figure it out on my own or ignore the problem if I can't fix it myself. I don't trust other people.
Occasionally, as an Ne dom, I will wake up in the middle of the night feeling vividly in touch with my physical environment and it is a genuinely frightening experience.
I noticed the other day that i got kind of upset when my boyfriend suggested going somewhere with some friends the next day because he said it nonchalantly without knowing if the place was going to be open or if my friends even had the day off to go do that. And i think that uncomfortable feeling of not having enough information and not feeling good about even entertaining an idea or making plans is something that has been happening quite a bit in my life, like i used to get very anxious at not knowing where the lab was at a new school and we had to go there later during the week, it was so uncomfortable not knowing exactly where i was supposed to go or what i was supposed to go when the rest of the people seemed to not care and just thought that they'll figure it out later. Would this suggest i am Si savior or demon?
Actually there is a genetic component to antisocial disorder BUT it concerns the X chromosome therefore women are transmitters for the bad gene while men are the ones affected (this is why antisocial disorder affects more men than women) . If this is the case for Cook s brother then the mom would have to be the transmitter and the maternal grandfather would have to be affected . That said there is also the traumatic side which is even more important than the genetics (in the case of the video it could be having an abusive father)
I was kinda conscious about this, well, observer bending manipulation (at least I remember joking about it), I had no idea deciders doing the exact opposite holy hell this is so interesting
It is really interesting. It's like very early in life something scared the Observers into being friends with everyone and someone scared Decoders into doing everything themselves. What type are you?
@@Owlsworthy I wasn't officially typed, though I'm dead sure I'm an observer if it counts lol for me, honestly, early in life I had a setup to be scared of people, not things, so to be precise it wasn't about what scared me, it was about what made me feel stuck I felt stuck with overwhelming new sensory (what the hell is this room?) that I just had no idea how to approach, and it turns out you can skip the processing if you cling to other people/drag other people in, it's a shortcut that I quickly adopted and exploited to eternity. I had all the freedom to do so, and no pressure, so instead of balancing things/people approach I just perfected people approach to set the right distance with a person - not too close, not too cold - as quickly as possible and make this shortcut even more comfortable, universal and addictive so it seems to me this choice is made by laziness, not fear and what type are you? does it work for you somewhat like this?
@@yananykyforova6754 Omg yes 😂😂 everything you said to a T. I used to (okay, still do) look at people like tools, as a means to skip over observer problems. Always had my mom do the paperwork, always had a sibling or friend drive me to places, always had people bring me things so that I didn't have to shop. All of it. I'm making up for it of course- taking control of my own life and making sure to return favors. But yes, the single observing pushes us to be friends. If we have a bully, we'll make peace and get down to the core of it to make a friend. I think it's safe to say you're an Observer 😂😂 I was officially typed as FF NeFi CP/S(B). How long have you been studying?
@@yananykyforova6754 some people say lazyness is actually fear of something. Like procrastinating assigments because you fear it won't be perfect, yet call yourself "lazy"
@@Owlsworthy Ahhhh it's so true, I'm learning to rely on myself, though, still, it's like all people I know is a gallery of characters that have various thing-related skills, here is my friend who can drive me to places, here is my neighbour who can handle electric meter when it goes weird, they all have their special powers 😌 and I'm hoping for their help, it may sounds like exploitation but I try to keep it like a transparent social contract, pre-calculate what's comfortable for them, return favors and make sure these people feel good about themselves for keeping my stuff together Does a Decider see a Home Depot as a gallery of tools to skip possible people problems? Just trying to triangulate lol I'm always amazed with you Consume Play people, you're so smooth with making decisions and engaging with people on the run, no wonder you delegate sensory to others, it turns out so natural 😊 You're FF, no doubt you're good at making friends 😊 I'm sure I'm MM, always buckled up for a threat, so for me this single observer drive is like "I can tame any tiger into friendly cooperation, to deal with REAL problems" (have to note there is usually only good surprises down the road and tigers turn out to be sweet cubs) Honestly I've been greedily consuming all the OP content on youtube that I can find for a couple of years, I promise one day I will make it to the classes and official typing 🥰
Okay guys I just want to put this out there, somebody with introverted intuition can totally use their memories like an si user. And that doesn't make them any less of an ni user, it's just that what matters when it comes to knowing if they are an ni or si user is knowing what aspect of their memory they are focusing on. For an si user, they will be looking at the physical concrete aspect of their memory like they saw the water reflecting the light of the sunset at the beach, while the ni user will particularly remember how the water waves would wash up to the shore every 3 seconds.
Odd, I guess having dreams about things that will happen or taking apart and trying to problem slove real life issues in my dream is Demon Intuition or am I getting this upside down 🤔
Watch Joe Rogan interviewing the pop start Jewel for a similar story of someone close being a rip-off artist. BTW, that's an amazing episode of Joe Rogan Experience.
I can't believe Shan's brother stole Dane Cook's money
I thought Cook's brother stoled from Shan's brother
Well, if they would have checked a photo from the 1800's, in Burger King, this could have all been avoided, CHIEF
Dave woke up one day making a Hey guys video: "I think Shan stole all my money" 🤣
Can you do an ENTP female? We have differences!
The decider version of this missing information is super interesting. I dunno if hypocrisy is *exactly* the right word for it but I don't have a better one right now. It's kind of like...the IxxPs are paying attention to how their actions reflect on them as an individual, and are expecting to be judged by them, but are totally ignoring how they look on their De spectrum, while the ExxJs are doing the reverse and ignoring how their actions reflect on them specifically.
It's something I can immediately see, in function-specific ways, in a few people in my life. Definitely something to keep in mind in the future.
I call it a perspective blind spot. Hard to see yourself objectively.
@@MrLuigiFercotti
At face value, I tend to agree.
Depends on a lotta depends tho...
Meaning, if they're the type(s) of person/people who should be wearing them (& could benefit from a laxative) 🤣
Sup Stan!?
(I remember you & Power.Red.Bull from waaay back-CS Joseph embryonic stages...etc..etc.. Dolf Dervish here.
Ya'll'r OG's, Homey!).
Regarding "hypocrisy" (&/or "contradiction), I prefer the term: "Paradox" {&/or "exception(s)-caveat: as long as it/they *actually* is/are, LoL); I also like the term: "Blind spot(s).. (I mostly use the term: "Hypocrisy" if someone is stubborn about it... *Especially* & particularly if they're the type to point blind spots out in others & *refuse* mutual Respect/their blind spots to be vetted)}.
Tom Bilyeu did a recent interview with Mathew McConaughey, in which MMC covers this (quite well imo).
What're your reflections on the aforementioned?
🤔
The single observer version of the people fears is super interesting too. Thingifying people and turning whole categories of them into a projection of observer fear can lead to lethal conclusions, as we see with alleged double-deciders like Hitler and Putin.
@@Heart.headed Nice nice, I remember some of your old comments from back in the day. "Blind spot" is a pretty good catch-all term. "Paradox" to me suggests in particular a logical inconsistency which doesn't necessarily apply to every case, but it's not a bad choice either
Intuitives not rocking the boat too hard, cause they're aware that they might need something in the future. People may mistake this as letting people walk over you, but it is more of a soft calculation. Very true observation.
More of a single vs double decider thing IMO.
Why do I always rock the boat and burn bridges as an INFP? I also write off and ghost people. If I need something I feel I need to figure it out on my own or ignore the problem if I can't fix it myself. I don't trust other people.
Occasionally, as an Ne dom, I will wake up in the middle of the night feeling vividly in touch with my physical environment and it is a genuinely frightening experience.
that german shepherd mask 👁👅👁 will definitely come back to me in my dreams I'm sorry
Haha I was trying to process it too bc I have a golden retriever head 😂😂😂
Let me speak in my native tongue, "You lollygaggin dillydaddler, it's not late, you're late!"
I noticed the other day that i got kind of upset when my boyfriend suggested going somewhere with some friends the next day because he said it nonchalantly without knowing if the place was going to be open or if my friends even had the day off to go do that. And i think that uncomfortable feeling of not having enough information and not feeling good about even entertaining an idea or making plans is something that has been happening quite a bit in my life, like i used to get very anxious at not knowing where the lab was at a new school and we had to go there later during the week, it was so uncomfortable not knowing exactly where i was supposed to go or what i was supposed to go when the rest of the people seemed to not care and just thought that they'll figure it out later. Would this suggest i am Si savior or demon?
That's the classic definition of IJ's: if that's true you are SI or NI savior
do more ENTP
Actually there is a genetic component to antisocial disorder BUT it concerns the X chromosome therefore women are transmitters for the bad gene while men are the ones affected (this is why antisocial disorder affects more men than women) . If this is the case for Cook s brother then the mom would have to be the transmitter and the maternal grandfather would have to be affected .
That said there is also the traumatic side which is even more important than the genetics (in the case of the video it could be having an abusive father)
I was kinda conscious about this, well, observer bending manipulation (at least I remember joking about it), I had no idea deciders doing the exact opposite holy hell this is so interesting
It is really interesting. It's like very early in life something scared the Observers into being friends with everyone and someone scared Decoders into doing everything themselves. What type are you?
@@Owlsworthy I wasn't officially typed, though I'm dead sure I'm an observer if it counts lol
for me, honestly, early in life I had a setup to be scared of people, not things, so to be precise it wasn't about what scared me, it was about what made me feel stuck
I felt stuck with overwhelming new sensory (what the hell is this room?) that I just had no idea how to approach, and it turns out you can skip the processing if you cling to other people/drag other people in, it's a shortcut that I quickly adopted and exploited to eternity. I had all the freedom to do so, and no pressure, so instead of balancing things/people approach I just perfected people approach to set the right distance with a person - not too close, not too cold - as quickly as possible and make this shortcut even more comfortable, universal and addictive
so it seems to me this choice is made by laziness, not fear
and what type are you? does it work for you somewhat like this?
@@yananykyforova6754 Omg yes 😂😂 everything you said to a T. I used to (okay, still do) look at people like tools, as a means to skip over observer problems. Always had my mom do the paperwork, always had a sibling or friend drive me to places, always had people bring me things so that I didn't have to shop. All of it. I'm making up for it of course- taking control of my own life and making sure to return favors.
But yes, the single observing pushes us to be friends. If we have a bully, we'll make peace and get down to the core of it to make a friend.
I think it's safe to say you're an Observer 😂😂
I was officially typed as FF NeFi CP/S(B). How long have you been studying?
@@yananykyforova6754 some people say lazyness is actually fear of something. Like procrastinating assigments because you fear it won't be perfect, yet call yourself "lazy"
@@Owlsworthy Ahhhh it's so true, I'm learning to rely on myself, though, still, it's like all people I know is a gallery of characters that have various thing-related skills, here is my friend who can drive me to places, here is my neighbour who can handle electric meter when it goes weird, they all have their special powers 😌 and I'm hoping for their help, it may sounds like exploitation but I try to keep it like a transparent social contract, pre-calculate what's comfortable for them, return favors and make sure these people feel good about themselves for keeping my stuff together
Does a Decider see a Home Depot as a gallery of tools to skip possible people problems? Just trying to triangulate lol
I'm always amazed with you Consume Play people, you're so smooth with making decisions and engaging with people on the run, no wonder you delegate sensory to others, it turns out so natural 😊
You're FF, no doubt you're good at making friends 😊 I'm sure I'm MM, always buckled up for a threat, so for me this single observer drive is like "I can tame any tiger into friendly cooperation, to deal with REAL problems" (have to note there is usually only good surprises down the road and tigers turn out to be sweet cubs)
Honestly I've been greedily consuming all the OP content on youtube that I can find for a couple of years, I promise one day I will make it to the classes and official typing 🥰
ENTP can do improv well. Howie Mandel is a master.
Oh, it's their functions.
Seth Rogen came to mind when they talked about comedians.😅Fluffy and double decider skit makers are funny, though.
Love it when you hit the growth stuff.
Okay guys I just want to put this out there, somebody with introverted intuition can totally use their memories like an si user. And that doesn't make them any less of an ni user, it's just that what matters when it comes to knowing if they are an ni or si user is knowing what aspect of their memory they are focusing on. For an si user, they will be looking at the physical concrete aspect of their memory like they saw the water reflecting the light of the sunset at the beach, while the ni user will particularly remember how the water waves would wash up to the shore every 3 seconds.
that’s a good example i think, or Ni would just use that memory subconsciously for whatever purpose rather than the reveling in concrete.
I would've responded... do you like jail too! 😅
6:40 lmao
Odd, I guess having dreams about things that will happen or taking apart and trying to problem slove real life issues in my dream is Demon Intuition or am I getting this upside down 🤔
Hey Dave & Shan!
Can you please 🙏🏼 type J COLE and JASON SUDEIKIS? Really curious about their type.
I'm an 8w7 INFJ and holy crap do I relate to Dane Cook here along with Dave in like everything they are saying lol
How do I know if the fe function hero or the parent?
The hilarious thing is Dane Cook is known as a thief in the world of stand up comedy. So he's not as different from his bro as he likes to think.
"I don't want to talk to anybody. I would spend hours learning a skill"
Unequivocally the most Ti thing ever said. Shan is mistyped confirmed.
Dave, read Carl Jung!
he's read Carl Jung
@@potapotapotapotapotapota *skimmed over
Watch Joe Rogan interviewing the pop start Jewel for a similar story of someone close being a rip-off artist. BTW, that's an amazing episode of Joe Rogan Experience.