Thieves of The Automotive Industry Update 5-24-24
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- In this video Jay Robarge of Broader Performance will give a current update on the counterfeit part situation of a Broader Performance C4 transbrake valve body. He will discuss efforts made by @SummitRacing ,@JEGSHighPerformance and @TeamSpeedmaster79
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very impressed that summit took the fakes back and replaced them with the genuine ones.
Not much integrity left in this country. Thanks for the update and good on summit
Stay with it man ! I think Jegs has made up my mind, thanx for the info. On to Summit for my parts ! You know when it’s to good to be true, it is…..
Another thing , I will be getting my AOD parts from an honest man, that’s you !!
Thank you. We appreciate the support.
Glad to hear Summit is making it right, sounds like they are going above and beyond. Hope it all works out for you guys.
Thank you. We appreciate it
Summit Racing took this on the right way. They handled it immediately and have done the right thing.
Of the 3 involved Summit has made the most effort. Speedmaster is a huge disappointment however.
Thank you for the update Jay! Keep up the great work !
Thank you for the update, Jay, hang in there!
Thanks for the update
Jay, you are a stand up guy. I have used you for about 20 years and you are a asset in the ford community and I will continue to support you by giving you my business and referrals.
Same here
Thank you. We really appreciate it.
Auto parts industry is a shambles. UTG and Car Wizard have discussed proliferation of brand new, non-oem parts failing shortly after installation, out of spec or DOA right out of the box. It comes down to lack of exposure and publicity. Keep spreading the word n increasing the awareness.
I think our country is in shambles sorry to say.
Glad to hear that Summit did the right thing. I agree with your sentiments regarding investment bank owned companies. The priorities often seem to shift away from the founder's vision. Thanks for bringing attention to this issue!
Investment owned companies are almost as bad as copy cat companies
Jegs will never get another dollar from me.
I hope someone is listening. We don't need more knockoffs in the marketplace. We need more quality products from responsible companies.
I’m glad that I took time out of my day to make the post on social media and call to Summit Racing that got this ball rolling.
I think Summit definitely did a good job trying to correct the wrong as well as a multi million dollar company could.
Jays a small guy and they could’ve bullied him into silence but they chose the high road.
We appreciate your support
Thank you for the information
Cool to get the update, I was afraid you might have had a gag order.
Not so far
Summit has to care because thats the main reason I buy there and not ebay or amazon. I buy from summit to avoid counterfit since they are "reputable". If they get a reputation from selling counterfeits, they are no better than amazon or ebay.
You do know eBay doesn’t make or sale parts right and Summit sells on eBay the exact same stuff but for a few bucks cheaper than their website. Most large companies have eBay stores. eBay is simply an online mall. Rather you buy from Payless Shoes or Nike is up to you on what product you get.
We need distributors we can trust. Not every consumer can know what companies are reputable so they have to rely on the distributors.
My standpoint is really simple, BUY AMERICAN MADE. The drive for just as good for less is the real issue, I won't buy anything from the copiers of American products, Speedmaster filled a market gap created by the *as good for less mindset*, and the Covid years made it worse, I'm not upset with any vendor filling a gap, but be honest and do the right thing. We have the capability to manufacture any product from overseas and do it better, But are people willing to pay the price? I will in a heartbeat. As for Summit not knowing what's in boxes, that's self-explaining if your familiar with acquisitions vs purchaser's vs warehousing vs shipping, It's no surprise, a product was presented to buy, the numbers looked good and the deal was done, then mdse was shipped and warehoused, there was no reason to check until as in this case a red flag was raised and summit did the right thing and addressed it, Summit is still an American single owned company. Support them, they have a lot on the line to supply the hobby and it wouldn't be a far stretch due to economy to become an investor owned like Jegs to possibly foreign owned company.
I wish more people thought like you.
Thank you for the update.
Thanks from England.
They just ripped out a large casting facility 'Pacific Steel' in Berkeley California here that had made casting since 1934, almost 90 years. The site is to become a 'Life Sciences Biotech' site.... you can't make this up more than they have already, the don't want you to own anything, and just be happy........
In the 90s San Antonio replaced a huge foundry with a stadium. Not saying I like it, but Walmart - Harbor Freight influences Americans to seek cheaper rather than better. Anytime we buy at these two places we contribute to the outcome.
I hate to hear that. Thank you for sharing this information.
I haven’t worked for Jeg’s in years, but I’d be willing to bet Speedmaster makes a few Jeg’s branded parts. Of course they won’t ditch the Speedmaster line. I could drive to Jeg’s in 15 minutes, but I spend my money with Summit. There is nothing great about Jeg’s.
It's been years since I've bought anything from jegs but I bought their house brand headers and off road y pipe for my 94 f150. The headers were pace setter. The headers had the pace setter tag on them and were in a pace setter box. They were several hundred $$ cheaper if I remember right. I think the y pipe just came in a plain white box. I wouldn't be surprised if they bought it off ebay and sold it to me. The details are a tad fuzzy at this point. I think I built that truck in 08 or 09. I do remember the headers fit great.
Jegs, listen to the people
I hope jegs is listening to the public
Sounds like Summit is being honest with you Jay and are trying to make things rite. Jegs being run by an investment group there's no sence in talking to them their all about making money so they don't care. Thanks 4 the Update been very interesting.
I agree. Thank you for your comments
Thank you
Absolutely well said. I agree everything you said 100%. and the fact that you made this update video on how Summit responded, I have mad respect for you brother. Summit is a great company that makes mistakes just like any company. But they have a track record for making things right. I use to hate Summit, They almost put me out of business. long story, and it involves me also being involved in Amateur Radio (Ham Radio). But when I posted my concerns about it on social media, and was having a conversation about it on Ham Radio one evening, Summit reached out and actually helped us out. Summit is actually all about American owned small business. Summit started small, so they respect small business. Paul D. Sergi, Sr. was the original founder & CEO of Summit, It started in a basement, and Summits story is fascinating. Paul Sergi was also the founder and original CEO of DX Engineering, a Ham radio equipment and parts company that is also a US company and still thriving today and still a part of Summit. Point is...Summit IS still a U.S. owned company and the current CEO is Scott Peterson. Paul Sergi was still actively involved with the company in 2021 and as far as I know he still is. Anyway as of now Summit IS USA owned.
Good info and story
Thanks for update and interesting life story. Be well, Jay.
Thank you. We appreciate the comments
A good idea with the addition of MADE IN USA is to add a serial number. You're a good honest man. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your support.
I appreciate your fight and your story at the end. Right on! There are more like you out there, just not many. Keep up the hard work.
Thank you for your comments. We all need to stick together
Great video. Glad you are on CZcams. We need more men like you!
Thank you for your comments
Well... You'll have that on them big jobs!
THANK YOU. jay for the time YOU spent to make the c4 parts that i put into my trans and the videos that support it. i just bought your reverse valve body and did so because i want to support a company that i feel really loves what they produce . i like having a face behind the part and the support for me to be confident to make it all work.I will be buying a converter form you next because you took the time to show me what a good converter is not just a BULL S sales pitch. hope you have a great weekend and your car looks great.
Thank you for your business and support
Thank you for your business and support
Thanks for the update Jay. When it comes to engine or transmission parts on my stuff I buy from known US companies but I found out many of our companies outsource their production to other countries.
Hard to find businesses these days still making products in house.
Congrats on having some measure of success with this Jay. I love seeing a small business owner win a little. Well done!
Its a step in the right direction but we have a long way to go I think. Thank you for your comments.
I really enjoyed your mom story. I had an interaction like that w my mom. I only came to appreciate it years later, but it changed the trajectory of my life to this day. Btw, I saved 4 years of summer job money to buy a brand new 81 Z28....my first upgrade was a Blaupunkt head unit w remote, and Alpines. The remote was actually wired in back of the unit!!!🤣
Thank you. I hope you bought a legit stereo for your car unlike my dumb ass back in the day. Haha
Glad this video announces "sum" progress as I dropped thousands their way past few yrs. Hope someone can make such progress eliminating the shoddy flat tappet lifters that are "floating" around out there! I ended up with a set still in their cheap paper boxes as I had no clue they existed. Going Rhoads as I need not trash my engine where all that $$ went. Hope a good situation arises for you from all this.
There are a couple of flat tappet lifter companies that are re-emerging.
The quality control personnel in hydralic lifter manufacturing are very skilled individuals.
It’s my belief that that market dwindled to the point that the up coming generations viewed the trade as obsolete so the necessary skill sets were not passed down.
Small victory but we will keep at it. Anyone who cares about this industry should stay in the fight. We appreciate everyone's support
This same sort of thing happened to me even though i wasn't the manufacturer, i had set up a sole distribution deal here in new zealand with an American game fishing lure manufacturer. They were a smaller family business in Baja California. Anyway, i was doing well with them here in nz and then sales plummeted and i found the local equivalent of Wal-Mart here called " The Warehouse" had sent a selection of the lures "overseas" to be made and they were now selling them at 20% of the original retail price.
That's terrible. I wish I knew how to stop this.
Wise Mom❤
@mrd.808 The main players in this messy scenario are Summit, Speedmaster and of course Broader. I don’t believe Jegs is directly involved unless something has changed recently.
Summit seems to be trying to do right by Jay by acknowledging the fact that Speedmaster was indeed involved in deceptive business practices by milling copies of a popular Broader transbrake valve body and boxing them in Speedmaster packaging and then distributing the bogus parts to American aftermarket vendors like Summit.
Summit responded by immediately removing all Speedmaster brands from their inventories and online. Those facts were outlined in a Summit statement posted on CZcams. Jays original stream compared his genuine part to the bogus parts where he clearly pointed out the obvious differences in the two products. The biggest slap in the face was how they went too far by using the Broader name brand on the cheap imitation without any official authorization or consent to do such a blatant violation.
Jay was clueless about the ripoff until he was contacted by a customer complaining that his valve body was hung up in one gear. All of this is described by Jay in his previous streams.
There’s also the potential problem of a valve body malfunction causing erratic operation during a high speed pass at WFO throttle and the possible loss of control on the drag strip. I’ve seen similar situations where the transmission problem ended up with the car rolling multiple times and landing upside down. It was a bad scene.
The number of predators called lawyers that live for this shit to happen is enough to cause nausea 🤮🤮🤮.
Hopefully all parties involved in this matter will agree to agree and allow Jay to focus on his livelihood and keep moving forward with business as usual.
It’s a major distraction, especially for honest small business owners 🇺🇸.
I'm still hoping speedmaster will do the right thing but I'm not holding my breath. On to plan b ......
@@BroaderPerformance Jay you will surely pass out if you hold your breath that long. Your patience is commendable but if you haven’t gotten a clear response from Speedmaster about their intentions by now, you might need to start warming up plan B.
I became aware of Speedmaster many years ago when their alloy heads for the Ford 351 Cleveland engine first became available.
Unlike now, the choices were limited for alloy 351 heads back then and the low price made them seem like a good deal. One of those too good to be true deals. Well as it turned out it really was too good. They looked almost identical to the new Edelbrock 351C, 2-V aluminum heads made by Edelbrocks American foundry. But the sub standard casting and machining issues were clearly evident. Just another product made by unskilled laborers employed by the Chinese manufacturing giant.
Now it appears that Speedmaster has expanded their cylinder head product line to include copies of a well known and respected Australian head manufacturer. Just another example of many involving legitimate companies that make quality products having to deal with the bad business practices of others.
And the beat goes on…
Jay in a twisted perspective it must feel good to know your small business produces a product so superior that a huge company will steal the name and design then sell it as their own. But when their cheap quality hurts your good reputation and steals money from your pocket, you have every right to be mad as hell !
Jay you rock man, and i appreciate you making products here in the USA brotha !!! I couldnt find that summit or jegs are not American owned but jegs is now owned by a global rich company greebriar equity. They usually are shady and scrap american manu. for cheaper to make more profit. Same happended to moog, yukon, monroe shocks, and sadly the last one they aquired is fel-pro. There is more. The 3 biggest auto parts companies in US are now global companies and located on 5th ave, in NYC. I believe they gutted all once USA manu. and made parts cheaper immediately and will destroy any value they once had.
I appreciate your support. I hate to see these big American companies send the work over seas. I can make products in house for a reasonable cost. I wish others would do the same.
Good on you Jay. Been dealing with you a long time now since the early 2000’s , always a stand up guy I’m confident to do business with I can’t wait to get my next order from you of 3 valvebody kits . Any day now I will have it in my hands.
I’ll be excited if mine has “made in USA “ 😊
We appreciate your support and business
And yes. Has arrived. I have the new “ Made in USA” ones 😎
Your 100% in the right and anyone that sold counterfeit products (knock offs of your designs/brand) owes you money no questions asked!
Stay strong! ❤ 💪
We appreciate your support.
Great Video. I liked the story towards the end.... Sounds like we grew up in the same neighborhood, Hey are you Italian ? LOL
Thank you. No I'm just a mutt.
Looks like the NHRA loves them some SpeedBastard79.
I wonder how much that cost speedmaster
Summit is based in USA American owned not publicly traded company
you've got a great Mom!
No more Jegs for me.
Jegs it's not too late to turn this around.
I'm actually getting ads from Jegs for Speedmaster brand products... of all the brands to choose to market!
Jegs lost their credibility with me!
Ironic isn't it? Haha
My wife had the same thing happen to her. Her custom designed stencils would show up on websites which she didn’t do. She just stopped doing it with no power to enforce her rights to her designs and she was doing well from home.
I hate to see small businesses run off like that. Only other small business owners understand how big of a problem this is. Too many consumers do not understand the value of small business.
@@BroaderPerformance The hours that you have put into your product , the investment in the equipment etc. To have knockoffs show up! I would fell like I’ve been kicked in the nuts.. All that EFFORT!! I fell for you!!
I’m sorry this has happened to you. I feel you’re passion. Like many Americans, they’re not only getting stabbed in the front but also in the back. Don’t give up brother. Godspeed man. It’s not for nothing. It cannot be for nothing. You’re righteousness is evident and resonates with me. I’m just a heavy equipment tech but believe me parts are an issue man. Even with the largest dealers. American dealers…..
We appreciate your comments and support.
Your Mother is a smart woman who loved you enough to tell you straight. You are lucky to have had such parents. It shows in your actions to this day.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
The fact that speedmaster didn't compensate you for every part they sold with your company name on it is all i need to know about them. Their not a class act.I won't buy any of their products. Thank you for speaking out on this.🍺
They have not been willing to do right by us and by others as well so I've been told.
Funny, Speedmaster has their comments turned off on there videos! lol
Of course. Not many good comments coming in.
The Australian government has has very strong laws to not only prevent representing on copy right but also on the importer and on distributor misrepresentation including jail. The Australian ACC (AUSTRALIAN CONSUMER COMMISSION) has massive power. Use the proof to file a complaint.
ACCC is a toothless tiger.
Australian government needs to take a look at speedmaster
@@BroaderPerformance any Australian can file a complaint first then will happen to importers and sellers
Both companies should make you whole and do what they will with Speedhacker!
Primarily speedmaster needs to own up to this.
Off topic a little but we can thank politicians and corporate elites for shipping our manufacturing capability overseas.
Most politicians really don't care about the little people.
I would guess that Summit looked at the amount of returns they get on Speedmaster and decided they were too much trouble
I've been asking how much of that stuff gets returned but no real answer from anyone.
Summit was held accountable for their mistake. If they did all the right things to contain and correct the issue, then great, we move on.
If sellers continue to do the wrong thing, then we vote with our buying power. Don't we? Looking at you, reader.
That's why we all need to spread the word to educate the consumers.
I like the jasper stuff that says 'Re-made in USA"
Re-made....I like that.
Sadly, companies like Speed Master, Summit and Jegs don't understand or respect the soft approach. They only respect and understand the hard, full throttle, it's just business attitude. They will only respond when they are facing actual consequences, legal costs, and millions in liabilities. It's all about maximum profit and they will sacrifice anyone and anything to attain their goals.
Speedmaster being the worst offender by far
As a mechanic I once worked for a so called specialty shop for German vehicles. Got a part handed to me that actually said "origin unknown".
It's crazy how knowing where things are made have become such a complicated issue.
Brother, please tell me you have some solid legal representation for this situation. Hang in there. I'm pulling for you.
Thank you. We appreciate your support
I think Jegs keeping speedmaster has to do with money of course. Yes they could get rid of them BUT there goes America jobs ( down size ) . They do sell a lot from them. I see the parts everywhere. Your point is valid. Id be pist too . Just sue them and be over it . On the point God bless America 👍🙏
Jegs isn't owned by the Coughlin family anymore.
Beancounters own it now and the bottom line is all that matters to them
I was in the drag racing business for almost 10 years. Originally, I thought Summit and Jegs were about the same size. After I did some research, I found that Jegs was very much smaller than Summit but had probably the best marketing guy I've ever run across who was able to keep Jegs' name out there to an amazing extent where both looked the same. That may explain the difference in the responses (one can afford to do the right thing and one can't) but the new investment capital thing throws that out the window. You are exactly right that the new management only looks at one thing - the bottom line - and it doesn't matter to them how they get there. I've had intellectual property stolen from me, so I could not support you more in your effort to make people simply be honest. What a shame that's even something we have to work at.
Your support and comments are appreciated
😎🏴☠️
Your mother raised you well. 🙂
She would appreciate you saying that.
Summit racing is owned by Scott Peterson. Products with summit brand are made by other manufacturers. Now, there are some name brands owned by summit.
Its a nice sentiment, but no one cares where its made or what its a knock off of when its time to get their wallet out and buy something. Its the reason why all these knock off companies continue to grow.
👆🏻 this one
I don't think no one cares but more people should care. I think if we can educate consumers it will help.
You need to put serial numbers for each one on it, that's what cope transmissions does with his stuff, that will stop all direct copies.
It won't stop them unfortunately
@@BroaderPerformance I know in the long run it probably won't stop copies but they won't be able to put your name on it like its yours. Anything to make it harder, tougher laws on it would be better but even then what happens outside the usa isn't really enforceable.
Sounds like you were kinda hard on your questioning of Summit and they gave honest human answers back, rather than complete corporate nonsense.
I'll admit, I was BRUTAL to Summit, and maybe that helped them correct their actions. With this new news, I'm a little more comfortable with Summit again. Until this happened, I had always thought Summit was a stand up company, I hope this just a slip.
They do have an idea how many of the BP units they might sell, a contract seems like a good deal. If they license the design then it should probably be listed as BP by Summit to discriminate from the ones that BP makes in his shop. Slight differences between high and low volume manufacturers.
Their response was better than I expected.
They have to try to keep it out of court .
Counterfeit trafficking fines are bruuuutal absolutelu brutal and this would count and it doesn't even need them to be aware its a counterfeit when committing the crime. You can thank record labels and clothing brands for that.
I'll say, it was sad going to Charlotte for the nhra 4 wides and seeing a speedmaster set up in the midway. So many "enthusiasts" who have no idea what they do walking thru and looking at products. I'll never support that company.
And also they are sponsoring the nhra insider podcast
@@neverstoplearning7214 sad that money is sought after more than morals and integrity
We need to spread the word. All it takes is money to sponsor those events. Not reputation.
They dont beleive you will pursue legal action..just hand it over to an attorney. You will get millions in damages to teach them a lesson.. stand up. Get em.
I worked in a plant that made automotive parts for the O.E. manufacturers and there were many parts that failed to pass Q.C. inspections for slight blemishes or other non crucial defects sold to "aftermarket" companies that would do their own Q.C. inspections and perform repairs if needed then rebrand the product to be sold under their label. I think there is a lot of confusion that stems from that and people probably think those parts are knock offs as well but it is all legit and above board.
I think those practices are ok. The difference is they were all in agreement unlike what happened with our valve bodies.
Just checked Jegs site for Speedmaster - 4599 parts. Summit - 296 parts.
Sorry, but Summit at the moment has no Speedmaster branded parts. Look closer at your search results... the 296 items are other items that happen to be called Speedmaster in the model name like Joe Rocket jackets, or parts that use the words "speed" and "master" separately. There are no Speedmaster brand parts on Summit.
@@mback12000 Agreed, i just looked myself.
So far summit is holding strong.
Speedmaster probably won’t do anything. They sell 6/71 blowers and have gotten in trouble because they were putting TBS stickers on them.
4 years later they’re still doing it 😂.
Here in Australia all speedmaster products come directly out of their wearhouse called Sydney speed supplies or atracing world (previously procomp)
There would be no chance getting a refund as it’s not going through a 3rd party who cops the change
They are pros at this for sure. It's time they are stopped.
Great story! Probly was an Alpine out of a Porche. There was a lot of them "floating" around back in the 80s. I got 2 bucks a day for lunch and used to save it all week so I had 10 bucks for the weekend....and 10 bucks would last all weekend back then! lol
Back when Middle America was still great.
For sure different times. I miss those days. Life was much simpler.
@@BroaderPerformance Me too!
This would be like speedmaster stamping the edelbrock name on their heads. Or Indy, Brodix . Stamp Harland Sharp on their rockers. Copying something is one thing, adding a name is too much
Exactly!
I hate to say it, but you caught them all with their pants down. It wouldn't have gotten to this point if you didn't come across it. Companies should know what's in their boxes as that is the face of the company. The problem is most don't care.
You said it yourself, "Why?". Why would you go back to providing parts from a company that has been known to pirate someone else's product? Because as you stated, there's more money in the product than dealing with the problem and putting an end to it. That tells you all you need to know.
Maybe they will reevaluate because of all of you.
Summit is a decent company I’ve never had any problems with them.
Right is right & wrong is wrong. Gearheads are good people. Speed master & anyone selling counterfeit parts are wrong.
pretty sad state of affair's we have and have had far too long globalized monopolies , we must have had the same mother dude mine was similar issue and I only wanted to hear the midnight special on my craig power play I just got such a deal on mom's save us from are self some times .
I'm glad to hear there are other mothers taking their job seriously.
I believe that Jegs was purchased the Chinese. Speedmaster is made by the Chinese.
Don’t think that they will be changing anything at Jegs.
I don't think jegs is Chinese but I have no proof either way.
lol @ Jegs
More important than where something is made are who designed it and where that company's headquarters is. It's the Chinese business decision makers that are causing the IP problems and producing crap. If a product is designed in the US by a US company, and manufactured in China, then the business decisions are made in the US and the product will almost certainly be required to meet US style quality control specs or be rejected when delivered. Not a big problem there.
Of course it would be best to be manufactured in the US too, but that's a different problem with a different solution.
When products are designed (or counterfeited) in China by a Chinese company, there's a very good chance nobody cares what the quality level is. There are probably no QC or QA protocols or even any prototype testing.
"In China, the typical approach is summed up in one word: “chabuduo”, meaning “nearly” or “almost”. For most Chinese it also means “good enough”. You will hear this term a lot." Along with massive government subsidies in order to grow their economy bigger than ours, this is why we get the cr*p we do.
Sorry to say American companies are starting to farm out the engineering over seas as well.
Sema kissing speed master azz the past few years is a sign of how bad the industry is now with private equity killing companies.
You just need to pay the money. Reputation means nothing to these shows.
Is that a Harbor Freight bench vise??
When I worked as a bicycle mechanic my boss bought a vice from harbor freight that looked exactly like that one. It took a lot longer to bolt it down than it took me to break it. Once it was ready to go I put a freewheel tool in it, sat the wheel into the tool and jerked it to break the freewheel (gears attached to the rear wheel) loose and shattered the vice. The boss was furious. I don't know why he was mad at me. I didn't tell him to buy that pos. Those things are porous and brittle.
It's about using the NAME genius....
It's a Wilton if that really matters to you
Just to let you know, canceled my subscription with Jegs turns out they’re not who I thought they were…..
First, sorry that you and other companies have had this happen to you. One way to solve it....
And this goes out to everybody! Think election if there are good people left to vote for, and also think of how you spend your money and the other companies "green-frier" might own ( which is on their web site by the way ) including Jeg-s and either pay for these companies goods or services OR MAYBE NOT. That will make a difference good or bad. Losing money will hurt greedy, non caring companies since that is all some companies care about it. It is my opinion that the "big G" investment folks might not give $.02 about the right thing or good thing to do without being shown the way. Don't take the easy road, take the high road and start using the little influence you all have by how you spend your money even if it's harder to do business without the money hungry, crooked, conglomerates that control things. Summit is at least doing a pretty good turn around. They are alone in making things right it seems. Keep that in mind as well.
Well said
Summit racing has so many products they sell at cheaper prices than the other major brands, they care huh ?
Time will tell.
Jay, why don't you dissect the copycat valve body and show everyone the mistakes and how cheesy its made.
If he does that he's just doing free R&D for them if he makes that public.
To help the counterfeiters fix their problems?
I said this because I have had several of them in my shop that were purchased by unknowing customers.
I can tell you that they cast in the mods Jay does to his valve side, but it's wrong.
They went to the trouble of creating a new casting instead of trying to reuse an old, hard to find core, but copied it wrong and made it metric on top of it!
The new valves they made are not even close to the factory ones, so you can't even fix it.
Somebody paid to make all this crap and it is useless!
For now I've been advised not to tamper with it. I have not taken it apart.
Just say it, you think the isolated incident is them leaving the name on it.
I don't think those were intended to be distributed in the US. I'll say that.
@@BroaderPerformance Realistic possability.
I call bullshit on what summit told you about their branded products.
I personally have had products that I designed and my company sold to them that they copied directly after the original started to sell well!
Don't be a gonif! The lie through their teeth.
What parts
@@ryan8456 too many to list!
I was a product engineer for a major performance aftermarket manufacturer in New England.
I designed a lot of stuff back in the day that are still being made today.
I'd like to hear more about this.
Jay I'll give you a call during the week
Awwww I see the problem here 👀 😂😂😂😂 it's that ford shirt
He makes for valve bodies, it's what this whole video is about...
A Chevy guy? If you can't see the real problem here then you are part of the problem.
List them as “Asian” parts and “USA” parts.
We say "off shore" in the business. Its more politically correct I guess.
Jegs hasn’t been the same since the Coughlin family sold out. Used to prefer them over Summit but the last couple of years👎
I hate to hear that.
they were china importers for years WHILE the coughlins owned them....
Summit still selling knock off reid 400 cases,part no SUM-700405..... while selling the original reid product 200 to 400 more.....real fine people they are yea......
Do you think it's from Reid and relabeled or they actually made a cheap copy?
@@BroaderPerformance reid only sell reid to the dealers,no 3rd parties involved the summit and jegs reid 400 & glide copies are from China and India.summit and jegs don't care until they get caught because sales go down once people work out a usa re-seller is pushing non made products to its victims
@@BroaderPerformance Tsi is another R&D rip off and duplicate organization
Do you realize that you are now liable for any and all claims as a result of this. If someone ruins a transmission and thinks it's this part, you get sued. If someone gets hurt because of something related to this you get sued. It is now up to you to defend this and prove that it's not yours. Even if you prove to a jury it's not your part, you may still lose the case and need to pay out. You can lose everything that you have over this...
I'd be talking to a big law firm and bringing this to a head. I don't think any lawyer would allow you to speak publicly about this issue.
You also need a trademark and apply for a patent
Don't go by me, I'm a shop guy, not a lawyer its just my two cents
If you don't have a trademark, there is not much you can do. I have made products before and always used a registered trademark, a serial and model number, plus made in the USA. Trademarks are not difficult to obtain.
To copy parts is bad enough, But to use the name of the copied product is just inexcusable and really bad. But some companies don't care. People in China are just making stuff and don't know or care what it is. I would get a trade mark with a serial number and engrave it on every part. Also include made in USA. He really needs to talk to a patent and trademark lawyer and come up with a plan.
I can't get sued if it's not actually my part. This is one reason I'm telling people how to tell the difference.
every speed part you buy has a big old disclaimer.. hell my fire suit says you may die and they aint responsible read some packaging its all discalimed....
Can I Have my car stereo back now, please?
I always knew you would turn up.
Never have a verbal agreement with any other business alway have a paper contract signed it's literally business 101
I'm gonna hate to see when you make the vid of there really screwing me worse than what they already are
Damage is already done. I'm not worried at this point.
Speedmaster has been copying stuff for years as ProComp. Always crappy quality.
It's hard to believe how long this has been going on. Sad really.
I dont have to put on my product where it was made ....beef , its whats for dinner ..
Isn't that amusing , but car parts , which we dont eat , they gotta be marked from what country they were made??? Are they dumb up there making rules ???? 😂😂😂
I agree, food should be labeled for sure. There are a lot of people who are fighting this fight. Why this is an issue is beyond me.
Get a haircut then i might take you seriously.
I'm guessing yours fell out.