How to Easily Install a Schrader Valve on any Can to make It Refillable without Drilling or Torch.
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- This video is for educational purposes only and does involve some risk of fire and or explosion. Do not attempt this unless you have the tools and knowledge to do it safely.
I show you how to install a Schrader valve Stems on a can to make it refillable so you can save money by buying in bulk and refilling with an air compressor.
Tractor Air Liquid Valve, Brass Tire Valve Stems
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Squeeze Bottles
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Weller SP40 40 Watt Soldering Iron
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No-Clean Soldering Flux Paste
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Tire Valve Tools,4-in-1 Valve Core Tool
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Refillable High Pressure Aerosol Spray
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Tractor Air Liquid Valve, Brass Tire Valve Stems
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Weller SP40 40 Watt Soldering Iron
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Where did you get the 3oz fill bottle with the PERFECT cap / valve fit?
@@fsoiberg it looked just like the one I have, from Shaklee multi-level sales group around 30 years ago. Made from high-density, high-molecular weight, polyethylene blown as shown. Great little squeeze/squirter. The ones he offered via amazon are the thin wall delicately handled version, they do not have a flip to dispense top either.
That's a lot of effort to go through to extend the life of a spray can. My issue is I have cans of wd-40 and other substances where the propellant is gone. Sometimes I can take a blog gun, connected to a compressed air source and using the nozzle to pressurize the can. I remove the little plastic nozzle, press the rubber tip against the little hol3 in the can and press the button. Most of the time I can hear the air bubbling inside the can. If this works, for you, it will allow you to use the last bit in the can. The problem is, doesn't always work. I think a nozzle has to be machined that acts like the plastic spray nozzle. I could machine one, just have better things to do.
You can actually purchase containers that are made to be pressurized and refilled, can't remember the brands. The last time I used one, the can leaked a bit.
Should say this, but I've taken 30 pound refrigerant jugs, have silver soldered 1/4" male flare fittings with schraeder valves, that allows one to fill the tank with compressed air. I think the "illegal" part is transporting the container on public roads, since the ruling seems to come from the DOT.
Keep up the good work.
Jim
the problem with refilling those refrigerant jugs is the metal is so thin and it will rust on the inside and can explode and kill you. When they have refrigerant inside they cant rust but will with air inside.
So I ordered the schrader valves, found an empty can and did this. It worked out well. I'm using it as we speak. Thanks from a "workshop type"☺
Funny, as a 10 year old kid in the 1960's I used to do this because them sprays were eating too much into my pocket money. Then oiling sprays become cheap as dirt. Now literally over 60 years later I am on the brink of doing this again because of corporate conglomeration having gone out of control.
Interchangeable spray patterns - best most ingenious advice this year. Thanks Mech.
Empty window-cleaner and other hand-spray bottles can be adapted to spray many other liquids too.
I like the recycle process my only concern is someone figures they can add more air to last longer, we all know idiots are everywhere an they will blow up the can due to overpressure. Just buy the ones for this usage as I paid 5.99 for a plastic bottle with a hand pump built in and a metal one that has a 80 to 150 psi rating for 29.99 at HF and be safe
That's my concern on it. One time I bought a "fillable" compressed air can (it was designed to be refillable, with a standard valve stem on the bottom). Nowhere on the can or the packaging did it give the maximum pressure rating of the can, so I never used it (seemed a highly unsafe item). Either couldn't find the company or couldn't get an answer from them, and whatever store I bought it from (maybe Staples?) would have been clueless on it too. These days I would have reported it to a safety agency or something like Consumer Reports.
I've turned stuff like that down in my drill press with a half inch chuck and a file. This is a very nice hack. I had been filling cans by pressing a wheel stem onto a spray can and using the schrader valve that way. This is way better. Thanks for posting. (I like the soldering iron hack too!)
By using a punch, you create more surface (mate-ing) area between the Brass Tire Valve & The Can. Great idea. Can should last a life time. Also by positioning the Brass Tire Valve @ the top of the can, (above the liquid level) you keep the solvent from continuous soaking of the Schrader Valve gasket / seal. Yes you can drill, but I would argue the punching of the hole will give a more desired mechanical result. Thanks for sharing.
Also, on your punch, after you achieve the correct diameter hole to receive the Brass Tire Valve, you could mark with a pen of some type, or scratch a line on the tip of the punch.
No swarf from drill in can to stuff up spray nozzle
@@johngibson3837 I'm jealous I didn't think about that. But that's one of the few good things about U-TUBE, the sharing of ideas. Great thinking John, you the man.
The dispensing valve in the can has a low service life, intended for single use and so, built cheap. It is not serviceable.
The can will not "last a lifetime" unless you mean a few refills.
Placing the charge valve in the base pressure dome is a stupid idea, but not for the fluid immersion issue, which the valve will always suffer, be it vapor of fluid in a pressure charged can.
Drilling into the can is a messy stupid idea. Pearce the small hole and open up by roll forming using a hardened steel rod (screwdriver shaft) is far superior.
The hole only needs to be 1/4" diameter if you buy the cheap copper hose tail Schrader fittings. (HVAC industry) Certainly not agricultural tyre stems.
About the air pressure limit? If I ask my son to put air in it, forget it. I rather use a bicycle pump, air compressor is too dangerous, WD cans are stronger than others.
@@stanwooddave9758 thanks Stan appreciate your words
I didn't read down for all the comments but, if you are a 737 Wrench, you have probably pressure tested a 100 things with soap bubbles. Every time I rehook propane bottles on trailers, swapping tanks on my Oxy/Acy welding tanks, aviator's breathing O2 bottles and so forth. Cheap insurance. Good vid 👍
When I was a parachute rigger we used mil-spec "Leak Tech" which was taxpayer funded liquid dish soap in an extravagant guize... Nothing like a few hits of 100% aviators breathing oxygen when there's too much red in the white of your eyes!
Schrader valve 1/8" npt threaded tank fittings are available to do the same thing with no machining. The cheapest source of a Schrader valve might be to get an old car tire valve stem, remove the valve core, burn the rubber off of the remaining brass part of the valve, then clean off any residue. One might even be able to secure the valve in the can with epoxy if the fit in the can hole is close.
JB welded shrader valves on garden sprayers so I do not have to manually pump for air.
@@robhunter2435 🤯 I hadn't thought about that! Thanks for sharing, now I know what I'll be doing tomorrow morning!
@@robhunter2435 on plastic pump vessels I drill 1/2 inch hole and and pull a standard tire valve though the opening at a convenient spot and pressurize on the fly with a compact bycice pump that can easily be fitted for transport in the field.
This is an easy operation requiring simple tools... I have a commercial version of this, with a heavy duty aluminum tank, brass schrader valve, and a trigger sprayer. I keep PB Blaster in mine...
The punch method is definitely the best. For information, when I was a student I worked in QA for a company that made aerosols. When examining defective ones, we had a punch that was used to make a hole and let the pressure out safely (in the open air and pointing away from people, of course). Simple and effective.
Great video, helps allot of people that don't have al the tools to do things the same way as others...
This is a great idea for us "workshop types" Thanks for the upload
I’m glad you mentioned to save the tips for the different spray patterns. The tip on the starter fluid can is like a garden hose with out a nozzle.
Ps. I love the “but you need a lathe” comment 😂😂😂
These guys will say anything to keep a laugh going…! Don’t takem seriously.😂
This is the best video on this subject, or project for a better word! For me, video with no music is a Big plus, even if the video is not so good, or the instructions, which is not the case here. And another fact that turn me way from any video or information online is AI. I already have the devil speaking to me, every minute, so don’t need to hear his voice, God's Voice Yes 😊. I'm disappointed though, thought I had all the necessary tools and materials to do this, but not so. I need to go out and shop for a metal lathe to get it done. Hope my wife will fall for it and do the blessing!😅😅
Same here 🤥
@@richardpetker4337 But, what the heck, spending over 1K to do a $10.00 project is not so bad! LOL!
This was a neat project, but if you don't want to use a pump sprayer you can go to any LOWE'S STORE and buy (for $8) a battery operated sprayer that screws on a gallon container and it sprays a stream of liquid about 20 feet. No manual pumping needed 😊. I bought 1 about 3 months ago and have used it for all different chemicals and I LOVE IT!
PS--- IT'S SOLD OVER BY THE BUG SPRAYS.👍
G day from Ontario Interesting. yes the cans are getting expensive! But I notice somewhere a gal was 79 or 89.$ ??? I think
Thanks crazy the way prices are. Ths
This king of out of the box is what 90% of the people lack, creativity left the chat
Great job explaining the process, you called every part name correctly and overall nailed it. I don't use WD40 anymore, CRC makes a much better juice. Your shop is worth a review, I know you can make a buck using it. Get more shelving and racking. Thanks.
No need to lathe the valve, can simply remove the rubber from a standard tire valve and solder
@@ljbellinger True, but you have to make a larger hole in the can. I think you can spin it in a drill and grind off some brass with a file. It is small enough to work without a lathe.
@@AM-dn4lk Yes, with no Lathe - you read my mind. A punched hole prevents drill swarf inside the can. I knew about this idea, but it was the 100psi that prevented me from doing it. I have many Cans of half-full WD 40 - with no gas inside the aerosol! It happens a lot to WD 40 Cans that I buy.
@@peterduxbury927 PB Blaster is my notorious gas fail with lots of penetrate product left. Great fix!
@@peterduxbury927 Just take the spray nozzle off and use an air blower in thru the outlet tube on your cans that still have content in them😎
@petermurphy3354 Yes sir, especially that rubber tip blow gun, works on so many things...
Dremel is your friend, Cordless, it'll remove any coating with Scotchbright wheel is a second.
Also last 40 yrs, I simply remove spray head, and hit the valve tube coming out of can with compressed air, pressing down on tube with rubber tip air nozzle, and can is charged.
Refilling cans, that's pretty cool, but WD40 is nothing more than diesel, and solvent, that won't be there 4 days later, if rusty threads were meant to be free later. WD, is used to flush rust out of threaded fitting, or hinge, then final step, LPS3, this product will protect rusty object, to open air fuse panel on tractor for years.
Cheers and thanks for exclusive process.
YOU HAVE " WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS " BUT I STILL LOVE YOUR IDEA .
@michael: he just likes saving 41 cents an ounce.
Thank you for a very neat way to salvage cans and save cash. I like it!
A really good video. I like the soldering of the valve. Nice technique.
Why not just use a hand pump spray bottle? I have one that came from WD-40 and it even has the WD-40 logo on it. It cost me $2 and I've had it for 25 years
The newer refillable spray bottles dont last all that long.....Chyna made
@@safetyharborfirearms I AGREE, I HAD ONE LAST 2 WEEKS
Nicely done! Don't forget to label the can with what its new contents are.
BRILLIANT!!!! You're a genius.
Nice! Different take on what I've seen others do.
I'm lazy and just buy Refillable Air Powered Spray Can for 25-35 bucks.
I would've had a mess everywhere...Good job ...I guess i'm just a messy worker...
That looks like a good one!👍 I like refillable aerosol cans - when they work. Harbor Freight used to sell some, but it was hard to keep them working. Industrial quality refillables are expensive. I use trigger sprayers for some things, but they go bad, too. I like to keep a filled aerosol for my 50/50 acetone/ATF penetrant and one for WD40.
If you get some AC system valves you also get valve cores that are PTFE, which makes them resistant to much more chemicals as well. Plus no turning involved, just get those without a tail, as then all you have to make is the roughly 3/8 hole to put them in. Or put the cores in the regular valve, as they do fit, making it chemical resistant, say you want to have a spray bottle of acetone or MEK , which dissolves regular neoprene rubber very fast.
Couldn’t you pull a vacuum on the can using a set of gauges stick your refrigerant line in the WD40 can?
genius dude ty! already ordered 10 lol
Yep... the perfect source for schrader fittings. The slim brass fitting on a copper tail form makes it easy to solder in securely (without specialist tooling) and not stick out like dogs balls.
HVAC trade wholesaler is the place to go.
@@homerogonzalez2909 Naaa.. just trade and craft.
@@rchighfield1 - Yes, BUT... You will leave residue from your refill in your A/C service hoses. Not ideal, IMHO. Especially if you are filling the spray cans with something that can attack the inner hose. Still, if you have A/C gauges and hoses, you can re-pressurize the spray cans with NON-OXYGEN gas (you know which kind!), and eliminate the explosion hazard you get with compressed air. But NEVER pressurize cans with straight Oxygen!
Harbor freight sells a reusable spray can cheap and you can spray anything out of them. Had one for ten years now and still works great.
Except they are not cheap anymore at $39.99
I have 2 sure shot spray cans and the problem with them is they are bigger than these smaller cans and the spray too much fluid. I wanted something more controllable and sprays a smaller amount.
Yes, you DO need a lathe. And a milling machine. And a TIG.
My other car nut friends don't really agree.
Guess who gets asked to do welding, turning, and milling regularly?
If you don't have that stuff, you're a "replacer", No? (Hopefully with good diagnostic skills.)
well said brother. well said.
@@bryanbeddingfield5489I agree. I only have a mini lathe but the amount of things I've made and repaired with it over the years, I sure wouldn't want to be without it now. I'd love an AC/DC TIG to tackle aluminium but they are expensive to buy and it's a real skill to master I know. I have a MIG and stick welder for the other metals so kind of get by.
There's not much you can do with a lathe or a mill that you cannot do with a file and some determination. Is it practical for someone who is spoiled with a lathe and mill, no. If you own a wood splitter you're not going to split a seasons worth of wood with an ax, but if not, you don't have to freeze to death.
To scrape a little bit of brass off with a file would probably take half the time that the rest of the project takes. Probably half the time setting up and turning down.
It doesn't take a Skin-o-matic 5000 to skin a cat either, there's a bunch of ways.
@@ricoloco2803 I was that guy, struggled with a file etc to get the job done, then I bought a lathe and mill and learned how to use them, that in itself is satisfying. At the end of the day, the moto 'right tool for the right job' applies for good reason.
@@ricoloco2803 How long would it take you to "Machine" a 5/8ths keyway in a solid 6" stainless shaft ? Thanks, you sound very knowledgeable, and talented.
Good idea. Be very careful with highly volatile flammables though, air + fuel = potential kaboom!
I worry a little about air on top of a fuel, but I suppose you could use argon if you have a bottle for a mig welder. If your valve core gets eaten up by the solvent, you could try an hvac core - fits a standard schrader but is more chemical resistant and goes to higher pressure. You can get them off the ac system on junk cars. I may try this, but fill the can with my own atf/acetone mix.
I also worry about using compressed air to pressurize atop fuel. I advise against it, and definitely NEVER pressurize cans with straight Oxygen! Nitrogen (for filling tires) is available at some service stations. CO2 also works, and for some purposes, injecting some Butane would be a good way to pressurize. Using air also runs the risk of putting water into the can, which will rust through fairly quickly if there is any free Oxygen in the can.
Great idea and video. FYI could use a large turkey injector to fill,
Just a thought, since 99.99- - % of the people who may want to try this, but don’t have a lathe, I’m assuming the reason why you want to turn the valve down is to make more space for the solder. If that’s the case try chucking the valve in a drill and using a file or bench grinder turn the valve down and emery cloth to get the size you need.
Awesome idea! Will try it on my can of WD -40.
Thank you!
Aloha! 🤙
Amazing! Thank you for sharing this video. Thank you for the offer in machining the valves and the tip for the solder iron. I would be interested in about the last quarter of this year 2024. Thank you. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!
top tip of today. . when you're filling it with compressed air do it in an inflation cage, that's what they call them in a commercial setting but a strong cardboard box with the lid closed will suffice, when they go bang the valves are like bullets ! !
let's be careful out there,
Just watching you squeeze the WD40 into the can has me smelling WD40 so strong! 🤣
There is a nice squeeze bottle I use for cleaning my paint guns that would make filling those cans a breeze , It's 16 oz. Devilbiss makes one but there are other less expensive ones! Great Idea! Thanks Man!!
Congratulation for your techik! All the process as you showed is foolproof. Thank you for your solution. You know in my counrty here is so expensive the can sraying stuffs. So it is chanche for reusing the empty bottles.
Best regards from Hungary!
I've used a standard tire valve just to repressurize the can as WD 40 tends to lose pressure. Good video
so you dont need a drill or torch.. but you need a lathe !!! fantastic
Yes, I posted a link so you can order one. :)
Or you can get creative and figure out one of many ways to accomplish the same goal.
Best video on this that I have seen. Thank you!
I’ve seen reusable aerosol sprayers on eBay for $32. I do like this man’s idea better. I bet somewhere on eBay there is the correct size valve available where you would only need a drill and some solder.
Very nice demo. Will do the same, thanks.
If anybody has ever done a propane refill like this let me know,, those little 1 lb containers that go on cook stoves and Coleman lanterns get expensive if you go out and camp or fish very much this is definitely the time to do it, have a great 4th of July stay safe and may the Lord bless you,❤
I like your method of doing this , thanks for sharing
Well, I suppose if you can do this to a starting fluid can without an explosion that makes you a bonnet out of it, we should be able to do it on about anything else. 😂😂
I was a little concerned about this too
For about the same price as a few schrader valves, I could instead buy a few good quality chemical spray bottles that work better and are safe, easy to fill/maintain, more reliable/robust, and even clear so I can see the content levels. I'll save my shop time for innovations that actually outperform off-the-shelf solutions (in cost if nothing else) so I can feel like my effort and time are actually worth something.
That sounds great for you.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing!!!
Solder the valve body near the bottom side of the can, about an inch from the bottom rim. I have inadvertently melted the _Spray Valve On The Can_ before, and moving the new fill valve down and away, eliminated that problem . . for me. But, yes, this definitely works, . . surprisingly well. Nice video, very easy to understand and I can clearly see how you are doing it. That's my biggest problem with making videos, I don't get good b-roll, so it's difficult for people to understand me.
You should consider selling these as a kit, with the adapter for the soldering iron and the machined down valve cores. Great video
I'd be interested in a set of 4 if you're willing to make them up
A little bit too much liability maybe.
Very useful.
Thank you so much
some great ideas thanks for the very informative video
I love this kind of content, thanks for the video.
Pretty slick.
1 Schrader valve
1 valve stem remover
1 lathe to machine it down to size
1 soldering iron
1 soldering iron tip custom made to the perfect size
1 piece of sandpaper
1 bottle of acetone
1 punch at perfect size
1 hammer for using punch
1 bit of flux & solder
1 perfectly sized squirt bottle with screw top
1 perfectly sized funnel
1 air compressor
1 air compressor hose and tip
Instructions: Use all the above as instructed and spill enough when filling to negate any money savings. Then try to safely clean up all the toxic chemicals in the WD-40 that you just spilled everywhere. What a plan!
Sounds like you got it down. Now get started doing your own. :)
I love it.
So, you don't need a drill or or torch, but you do need a lathe......right 🤣😂🤣
Thats all. Everyone needs a lathe.
It wouldn't really need a lathe you could easily cut it with a hacksaw spin it in a drill with a piece of sandpaper.
More have a drill or a torch. Very few have a lathe ???
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh Get a lathe, problem solved.
Was thinking same thing.
We used to do this back in the day with old r22/r12refrigerant tanks. They worked great to inflate tires. The cans would rust on the inside because of the moisture in the air. Then they would explode killing people. The government shutdown the reusing of the cans as a result of the injured and deaths. They made the companies incorporate features to stop them from being refilled.
Luckily the inside of spray cans are coated to prevent rusting.
Liar.
@@Look_What_You_Did WOW, why dont you cut one open and look. Even the inside of soda cans are coated because the carbonic acid, phosphoric acid and citric acid would corrode the can without it.
Thanks for the comment and helping the CZcams Algorithm.
Great technique!
Great vid!
Great job thanks
I did not realise that you could solder aluminium. How does that work? NIce work and an excellent video, very well explained.
Niether metal is alumunum. The can is steel and the valve core is brass. I have never had luck soldering aluminum.
Nice job
Awsum Job !!! And I was thinking about paint /rattle cans ! Give Rust-Oleum a shake up !!! 😉🙃😎 NZ
That’s a pretty good idea. I thought the solder iron mod was brilliant! I think only thing I would do differently is use dry nitrogen to charge the can. I happen to have that handy I know not everyone does tho. That may help mitigate any problems with moisture and bacteria in the can over time.
What is wet nitrogen?
GREAT IDEA
Great video great job.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great idea
GREAT! Thank you.
Thank you sir.....great idea.
Wow. Great idea……I’m going to run out and buy me a small metal lathe, tooling, and start machining asap so I can burn up a few hours and a bunch of cash in order save a couple bucks on a few cans of WD 40. 😉
You left out all the other things you can make.
@@737mechanic Yes, that’s true. A lathe is a very handy machine. 😉
Try using an old school ketchup squeeze bottle. Maybe nip or drill the hole bigger though. And maybe a fill line, so you get around the right amount every time.
Now that you're sure that solder joint doesn't leak you should go ahead and fix that leaky air compressor and or hose.
Great video
I bet with the right set up you can fill and charge the can through the top valve.
I used to use bike valves,years ago..
Many solvents are quite flammable, even explosive, and you're heating with a hot iron.
Yes, but that is not near enough heat to ignite the fluids, it would take a spark or flame.
Thank you.
Thanks 🙌👍😊🍀💪
If you apply solder before punching the hole you can get a better fix. The chances of leak is also reduced.
Nice lathe...
I'm definitely interested in getting the soldering tip and maybe 12 machined schrader valves from you. I don't have access to a metal lathe.
Email me and we can work out a price.
Very nice
What a great hack. You could use a wire wheel to remove the paint
Thank-you
Thanks
Those Rustoleum Turbo cans might make a good candidate as they can hold a lot of liquid as well as expell a lot too,, once you clean and rinse them out.
I was wondering about a refillable Can of air for home hobbies ..
This is it..
If I could make it..
I like it.
One can pretest the air pressure the way Plumbers and Steamfitters test gas pipe.
Just make a fitting that has a PSI gauge on it put some soapy water in your can and inflate to pressure and let sit overnight and
if it holds the same PSI and no leaks your good to go!
The soapy water will tell you where the leaks if any are as well!
after that drain rinse out and let the can dry out as well
If the rated PSI is 100Psi on the can, I'd use 75 PSI on it for safety reasons and your not over stressing the can! you can always add some air if needed. Id use a dip straw as well to tell you the level of fluid is in the can as well!
Thank you for sharing this great money saving tip. I am curious as to where you acquired the plastic 3oz squeeze bottle with miniature nozzle. perhaps you could include a link in the description. Well done.
I thought I had them in there but thank you for pointing that out.
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I have had a lathe for as long as I can remember but the average guy...? Anyway, I like it.
It's time the average guy gets him a lathe. :)
I like the way he didn't shake the can before use there's two components to WD-40 in one settles out to the bottom which I believe is a silicone oil you only put in half the component of WD-40 taking for the content of your metal container into a clear bottle and you'll see how the stuff separates that's why you must shake it before use! Always look up the SDS
ok chris, you win. How much for 14,000 machined brass tractor tire valve casings? lmmfao