Mistform vs Chainer vs Ezuri vs Thelon EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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Komentáře • 118

  • @attila8417
    @attila8417 Před 4 lety +96

    I'll be a father within the next 24 hours possibly. Sitting at home due to covid 19, waiting for the process of birth to start so I can be with my woman. Your voice does a great job at keeping me calm. Thank you for that Mr. Muddsta. Her name is Lara, in honor I will build a child of (a Lara)-deck :D

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Před 4 lety +82

    Chainer with Gray Merchant on the field, nearly infinite mana and drawing four cards every turn... let's leave him alone, nothing could possibly go wrong, right?

    • @isaoblack987
      @isaoblack987 Před 4 lety +5

      Not like all he needs is a sac outlet or something.

    • @newtpondskipper
      @newtpondskipper Před 4 lety +5

      Threat assessment was poor.

    • @MrYost-xx5bj
      @MrYost-xx5bj Před 4 lety +3

      A fun (But janky) thing you can do with chainer is use solem sim, amulet of vigor, xia dun the one-eyed and bubbling muck to get every single basic from your deck and making them tap for insane amounts of mana. Or just use krr'k, Gary and chainer, + sac outlet to just win. :)

    • @DUES_EX
      @DUES_EX Před 3 lety

      These guys are clueless sometimes

  • @bebebebearnard
    @bebebebearnard Před 4 lety +39

    Jeff should’ve gained the Mana drain mana during his second main phase because it was cast during his pre combat main phase.

  • @Punintentionally
    @Punintentionally Před 4 lety +34

    I always love seeing the Mistform deck in action.

    • @ncuco
      @ncuco Před 4 lety

      I really don't understand why choose this legendary and not any other legendary wizard as comander 😂 please explain

    • @jamespooh2
      @jamespooh2 Před 4 lety

      @@ncuco Because its silly and fun

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto Před 4 lety

      For some reason it looks like a voltron kind of deck with control in it. But y, got no clue. Love the art tho, reason enough to play it :P. I still gotta SOMEHOW use my Arcanis the Omnipotent as a commander.

    • @Punintentionally
      @Punintentionally Před 4 lety

      It is silly, and underused, which means a lot of players are caught off guard by it. Not to mention, you get the best of multiple tribal synergies, such as Azami wizard draw or Lord of Atlantis island walk, etc. It's far from "optimized" but the challenge of running something different and fun is what makes the deck shine.

    • @cameronc530
      @cameronc530 Před 4 lety

      I also built Mistform similar to Andrew. The main 2 tribes are Merfolk and Wizards so it isnt just straight up Wizard tribal. Additionally you get to run cards like Lord of the Unreal that gives Illusions Hexproof (aka Mistform). The deck can definitely win by combat damage or swinging out with unblockable Merfolk but the deck also has the Azami + Mind Over Matter + Thassa's Oracle combo for an instant win. It's just a fun deck where you get to manage odd synergies between tribes.

  • @tw1339
    @tw1339 Před 4 lety +12

    Well played by everyone. It's crazy seeing you as a player now vs when this channel started. You're much better and I love seeing you improve.

  • @gfkxj123
    @gfkxj123 Před 4 lety +5

    Huge missed oportunity by connor at 15:36 with Nullmage shepard. He should have targeted the caged sun tapping nullmage, deathspore, and 2 saprolings. then activated deathspore and sporesower to make 4 saprolings tapping all of them to destroy the immortal sun. Then sac 3 saprolings killing chainer, which would then cause Emile to sac all three creatures with krav so then krav and grey merchant dont both get put into exile due to chainers ability. Then next turn you can sac the other three saprolings if chainer is recast.

  • @sneakyJDG13
    @sneakyJDG13 Před 4 lety +4

    That chainer deck is so good, loved watching Emil claw his way back in.

  • @Mtglilypads
    @Mtglilypads Před 4 lety +32

    3:00
    when he cast yawgmoths will you could of used the relic of progenesis

    • @marleybuffet
      @marleybuffet Před 4 lety +9

      Could've used Relic to exile the Tutor before that even

    • @DalmarWolf
      @DalmarWolf Před 4 lety

      Yes was my thought too, was wondering if he was holding it up til endstep but as soon as I saw the will I thought he'd use the relic.

  • @iamthefinal5934
    @iamthefinal5934 Před 4 lety

    Super happy to see you playing Mistform again, I love that deck

  • @thepedanticcreature680
    @thepedanticcreature680 Před 4 lety +2

    OG Chainer represents. By far my own favourite commander to run.

  • @HighlanderHipster
    @HighlanderHipster Před 4 lety +2

    Emil and Jeff were definitely a little higher power then the other two decks, but Emil also piloted his deck really well and maintained his control while being the archenemy throughout. I think the table adjusted well to the difference and made the game for balanced. Emil got hit with a lot of graveyard hate and kept fighting and grinding for the win. That's the beauty of commander and mono black!

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido Před 4 lety +1

    Emil's lands bring me joy.
    Emil's gameplan brings me joy, since it's so similar to mine XD
    A nice game!

  • @excludedsteppe3990
    @excludedsteppe3990 Před 4 lety +1

    That sequence of swan song/ paying study tax/ relic exiling graveyards was a series of unfortunate events for your opponents, we’ll done.

  • @Sorryssoul
    @Sorryssoul Před 3 lety +1

    Very proud to see a Chainer deck win and be played.

  • @dji7231
    @dji7231 Před 4 lety +1

    That was one hell of a nice game! Very entertaining

  • @spaghettibeast1706
    @spaghettibeast1706 Před 4 lety

    I have a Slimefoot deck that has the sporesower thallid in it. That card actually is a tongue twister and I have trouble saying it as well sometimes. Also the music in this game was great!

  • @theSavageHippie
    @theSavageHippie Před 4 lety +4

    The mana from Grand Architect can’t be used to pay for Study

  • @dannyirvin5990
    @dannyirvin5990 Před 4 lety +1

    I absolutely LOVE bolas citadel. It's been amazing in my teysa edh

  • @maxbodifee3263
    @maxbodifee3263 Před 2 lety

    Nice staple flex for all in the first turns :) Great game!

  • @diarrhearulz
    @diarrhearulz Před 4 lety +3

    On anvil, you don’t have to discard one of the cards you drew that turn from the anvil, just any card from your hand

  • @leoschwab9669
    @leoschwab9669 Před 4 lety +4

    very very interesting gameplay

  • @daleboyce1170
    @daleboyce1170 Před 4 lety

    What was the art on Emil's playmat? I don't ever remember seeing that and it looks amazing.

  • @randomguy2113
    @randomguy2113 Před 4 lety

    I've always wanted to do a tribal deck just couldn't decide. Maybe I can do all tribes with mistvale. Also nice new music, very zelda-y

  • @Anaki99DK
    @Anaki99DK Před 4 lety +5

    Finally monday

  • @Bumbum_Inspector
    @Bumbum_Inspector Před 4 lety +12

    I swear I've never seen you win with Mistform Ultimus which is heart breaking because he's my favourite blue commander. :(

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 4 lety +5

      Bumbum Inspector I’ve won a few times with it on the channel.

    • @patrickbuerke1390
      @patrickbuerke1390 Před 4 lety

      Thank you, Bumbum Inspector, very cool

  • @theonetruedeity
    @theonetruedeity Před 4 lety +1

    There’s a few missed triggers here. Mana drain says “next main phase” which would’ve been the second main of that turn. Also the first Mistform hit should’ve triggered the sword as well

  • @johnmalayny2437
    @johnmalayny2437 Před 4 lety +16

    Seems a power level mismatch between the mono-b deck and the other ones.

  • @rosskidwell3876
    @rosskidwell3876 Před 4 lety +19

    SO...about those snow covered swamps.....where do I send my money?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 4 lety +9

      Ross Kidwell I believe Emil painted them himself.

    • @rosskidwell3876
      @rosskidwell3876 Před 4 lety +1

      MTG Muddstah I would love an HD scan or something. He should set up those up on Etsy for purchase.

  • @apophis456
    @apophis456 Před 4 lety +3

    Lots of good alters this game

  • @ethanertl5021
    @ethanertl5021 Před 4 lety +2

    All the cards being drawn really makes me want a hand counter for everyone😂

  • @signisakanades1329
    @signisakanades1329 Před 4 lety

    As noted a couple of times in the comments, the Mana Drain mana wouldn't have been available and that did kinda mess up the rest of the game since it would have still been a 4 player game, and a lot of it would have changed.

  • @hectormorales4090
    @hectormorales4090 Před 4 lety

    Dang! GG dudes!

  • @vitorkakizaki674
    @vitorkakizaki674 Před 4 lety +1

    the king mistform is back

  • @Flymoth
    @Flymoth Před 3 lety

    Those back to back counters where ruthless

  • @otisnt5718
    @otisnt5718 Před 4 lety

    Those swamps are so pretty!

  • @TheSomberlain93
    @TheSomberlain93 Před 4 lety

    That Chainer deck got gas!

  • @ArthurRodrigues-tt1fg
    @ArthurRodrigues-tt1fg Před 4 lety

    The Thelon decklist does not appear any link. Success for the channel. ^^

  • @alexchurchfield2901
    @alexchurchfield2901 Před 2 lety

    Thalids are awesome, so cool to see thelon.

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr Před 4 lety

    Is anyone else having an audio issue at around 3:30ish?

  • @ryanshaub5491
    @ryanshaub5491 Před 4 lety

    Hey do you have your ghired list?

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto Před 4 lety

    So Jeff had 4 counter spells in his hound during one whole round? (force of negation, counterspell, Glen Elendra Archmage/kinda counter,...and a mana drain. That is a bit much even with the amount of card draw in that game.

  • @Schiedog
    @Schiedog Před 4 lety

    This makes me want to build a mono black deck

  • @justaguy3310
    @justaguy3310 Před 4 lety

    You forgot your sword trigger on connecting?

  • @Pyroshax
    @Pyroshax Před 4 lety

    A hardfought win. He ate SEVERAL counterspells, and a LOT of gravehate. For a while couldn't even play the game. Nice to see the good karma at the end.

  • @MinecraftManiacs1to3
    @MinecraftManiacs1to3 Před 4 lety +1

    11:28 You find a 3 drop artifact, which is correct, but you said it wrong :P

  • @dustingreen2254
    @dustingreen2254 Před 4 lety

    As a CoB player, I NEVER cast the Citadel w/o having a way to get past the lands. It just gets destroyed or exiled.

  • @Raaayyyyyyyyyy
    @Raaayyyyyyyyyy Před 4 lety +7

    relic of progenitus could have been activated to remove the vampiric tutor with no cost to Andrew.
    the mana from Mana Drain was added in the wrong turn. It countered a Cryptic Command targetting something happening in main phase 1, so it shouldve been added in main phase 2 of that same turn. Living Death was a huge mistake considering theres a Relic of Progenitus out. Trophy Mage couldve found Pili Pala and gone infinite with grand architect?

    • @HenriqueLima-dw8yn
      @HenriqueLima-dw8yn Před 4 lety

      Also the ezuri player missed one discsrd trigger of the anvil
      Mistakes happen :)

    • @andybayer4861
      @andybayer4861 Před 4 lety

      living death was a 5 mana wrath, even with relic, which would have been good on that board

    • @DalmarWolf
      @DalmarWolf Před 4 lety

      Should also have gotten a swords trigger the first time his commander got through with islandwalk.

  • @judegraham2951
    @judegraham2951 Před 4 lety

    Jeff was playing counter spell tribal

  • @ProdigalMadness
    @ProdigalMadness Před 4 lety

    Not sure if Jeff was drawing the extra from Anvil, but he certainly missed a handful of the discards.

  • @GeorgeAlone2277
    @GeorgeAlone2277 Před 4 lety +1

    at 12:16 Jeff shouldn't have gained mana from Mana Drain. He would have got it in his second main phase of his previous turn.

  • @cptjack1989
    @cptjack1989 Před 4 lety

    I tried using the promo code for Flipside Gaming, but I didn’t see a place to put it. I’m assuming I did something wrong?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 4 lety +1

      It's part of the check out. I believe it's part of the payment options. There should be a spot to fill in a promotional or discount code. You put it there.

    • @cptjack1989
      @cptjack1989 Před 4 lety

      Thank you for the reply!

  • @thedeadfool1
    @thedeadfool1 Před 4 lety

    3:36 did connor not discard anything to Anvil? Same with emil after?

    • @isaoblack987
      @isaoblack987 Před 4 lety +1

      There were several missed anvil triggers/discards this game from the look of it.

    • @assassinLOLGASM
      @assassinLOLGASM Před 4 lety

      Yeah I noticed that they missed those triggers as well, it's probably the case of it getting on the board and getting forgotten about

  • @tacothursdays6546
    @tacothursdays6546 Před 4 lety

    Just made a Rankle deck with Gary as a wincon
    I never fully realized Gary nets you three times as much as he drains in commander 0_0

  • @ChonoRock1198
    @ChonoRock1198 Před 4 lety

    Why did he play living death with the relic out?

    • @danriemer9724
      @danriemer9724 Před 4 lety

      I don’t think it’s a bad play. If you’re only going to fill your yard more as the game goes on then trying to force the relic use early isn’t a bad idea. I think at that point in the game it was being used more as a board wipe than mass reanimation anyway.

  • @helix6836
    @helix6836 Před 4 lety

    I have a question for you.....
    How many goblins could a goblin gob if a goblin could gob goblins?

  • @TeaHauss
    @TeaHauss Před 4 lety

    Props to you for paying the Rhystic Tax

  • @meps8965
    @meps8965 Před 4 lety

    i see mistform, i like

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax Před 4 lety

    Jeff shouldn't have gotten the mana from Mana Drain at 12:16 since he cast it during his own Pre-combat Main Phase, and Mana Drain just says it adds the mana "On your next Main Phase"; in this case his Post-Combat Main Phase. That is, unless he announced he was moving through combat to his Post-Combat Main Phase right away on his turn.

  • @lk8lk8lk8
    @lk8lk8lk8 Před 4 lety

    8:20 i don't get why would jeff proliferate connor's permanents

  • @whyterthanu
    @whyterthanu Před 4 lety

    Either Jeff doesn't know that Fathom Mage draws for each counter (the turn after he discarded it would have been draw 5 from Ezuri's trigger) or was punting on purpose. One of the strongest card draws in the deck.

  • @evafox9696
    @evafox9696 Před 4 lety +1

    Yo is that a mother fracking THELON deck?! Not all heroes wear capes. They wear Spores.

  • @corhydrae3238
    @corhydrae3238 Před 4 lety

    It bugs me a little that you announced Driven to Despair just as "Driven" in the starting hand. The flavour of the names is literally the best part about the aftermath cards.

  • @SyckestBlah
    @SyckestBlah Před 4 lety

    To me it sounds as if you're implying you have to discard one of the cards drawn during draw step with the Anvil. Just to be clear, you can discard any card.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 4 lety

      You're quite right. I think I was too laissez-faire with my narration on that part. I'll try and be more clear in the future.

  • @mtg_hotdog
    @mtg_hotdog Před 3 lety

    Always hard to watch the Anvil trigger played wrong each time.

  • @miscellaneousgoblin910
    @miscellaneousgoblin910 Před 4 lety +9

    I sense some kind of a budget difference between Emil’s deck and the rest...

    • @HighlanderHipster
      @HighlanderHipster Před 4 lety +2

      Jeff's deck was definitely the most expensive based on the cards played.

    • @isaoblack987
      @isaoblack987 Před 4 lety

      Without being able to see a decklist from Ezuri its hard to judge how much of a gap there is between Emil and Jeff. Mistform seems a fair distance back and Thelon even more so from what we saw from them however.

    • @namename8004
      @namename8004 Před 4 lety +5

      Not really true at all. Each deck played a few money cards just out of what was shown in the video. Jeff clearly played the most expensive cards that game, but he didn't win. Conner had a Doubling Season and Andrew had a Cavern of Souls.

    • @miscellaneousgoblin910
      @miscellaneousgoblin910 Před 4 lety

      Y’all are right. I’m not smart xD

  • @treyglenn21
    @treyglenn21 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm just hear to hear Manacurves do the intro......ok an to watch some edh

  • @skylartenhaaf9793
    @skylartenhaaf9793 Před 4 lety +1

    Triple digit view count.. I’m early.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR Před 4 lety

    I got a laugh from the, "and I get to find a 2 mana artifact" when you meant to say three

  • @7someone
    @7someone Před 4 lety

    A goblin with Goblin Bombardment could gob as many goblins as you could gob.

  • @Zaalbarjedi
    @Zaalbarjedi Před 4 lety +1

    I legitimately have no idea why you did not go for the win on Turn 7 with Mind over Matter.

    • @gfkxj123
      @gfkxj123 Před 4 lety

      The Dark deal cast by Emil turns prior meant it was not longer in his hand by turn 7.

  • @jorgerivera6555
    @jorgerivera6555 Před 7 měsíci

    Connor should have left the ballista alone Jeff was likely planning on taking out mist form by combat and Emil with the ballista that was in my opinion likely Connors best opportunity to win

  • @ncuco
    @ncuco Před 4 lety

    I really don't understand why choose this legendary and not any other legendary wizard as comander 😂 please explain

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit4132 Před 4 lety

    I love me papa mistform

  • @DeanJayJackmanJr
    @DeanJayJackmanJr Před 4 lety

    SPOREBOYS RULE

  • @n3rdm4n36
    @n3rdm4n36 Před 4 lety

    My Mistform Ultimus alter would be a Shiny Ditto.

  • @BrendanChewy
    @BrendanChewy Před 3 lety

    Keeping beast whisperer over fathom mage in Ezuri = ??????

  • @stevenyuskowski1383
    @stevenyuskowski1383 Před 4 lety

    Hand shakes during covid concerns me

  • @dunzhen
    @dunzhen Před 4 lety

    chainer gang

  • @mbjargvide
    @mbjargvide Před 4 lety +2

    As a Chainer player, I can say that practically all of my wins are based on falling behind in the early game and then waiting until my opponents are too focused on each other to notice me assembling a Gary combo. It almost felt like I was the one playing!

  • @rabbituckmann8146
    @rabbituckmann8146 Před 4 lety

    1. see mistform 2. like video 3. watch video

  • @horribleville
    @horribleville Před 4 lety

    Muddstah this was poor threat assessment on your part. Also I hate these pubstomp games. Guys whole deck is more than all of yours out together from the few cards we saw

  • @SumNeuron
    @SumNeuron Před 4 lety +1

    This specific music, please take off the rotation