How to Store and Protect Vinyl Records
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2019
- We cover 3 subjects: 1.) How to store your records 2.) How to protect your outer sleeve 3.) How to protect the record itself. I give my favorite solutions and show some of my favorite brands.
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Baby is the essential step in this process
Ryan Scanlon hahaha she loves playing with the outer selves when they stick out
The simple solution for preventing the sleeves from sliding off when putting it into the shelf is to not pack so many albums onto the shelf. Remove 4 or 5 from each shelf and they'll slide in with ease.
a way of storing your records I have found out about is where you put the album cover in a plastic outer sleeve facing upwards then I take the vinyl record and put that in an inner sleeve and I put the records inside the outer sleeve behind the album cover so I can just take out the record without having to take out the whole album.
For those wondering, not all shrink wrapped single jackets bow with the slit method and not all unwrapped jackets don't bow. It's pretty much random and it's not necessarily based on jacket quality. I have an unwrapped kid cudi gatefold that bows a crazy amount. Outer sleeves are good for all the records you can get them for.
Great video! Picked up some inner sleeves after watching. I'm a new collector and appreciate your calm, judgement-free approach to safely storing vinyl. I'm very interested in keeping my records safe & sound for time to come, so this video was perfect!
John Brophy thanks for the kind words!! glad it was helpful :)
FYI- Vinyl Storage Solutions now make a dual-pocket sleeve with 2 'tuckable' flaps as opposed to the glue strip..The cover flap is on the bottom, then the rear pocket flap is on the top..nice to see a company provide so many options!
I got the anti-static inner sleeves off eBay very cheap.
The ones that are half semi circle shaped at the bottom so the bottom part of the sleeve is shaped like the record and so makes it a lot easier to pull them in and out of the outer sleeve.
I love those sleeves, I bought a load of them and pain stakingly put every one of my records in one, it took me an age as I’ve got close to a thousand records, but definitely worth it as I have the piece of mind knowing that all my vinyl are protected and are easy to take in and out whenever I want to listen to them. 😊👌🏻
Great video though mate, thanks very much 🤟🏻
Been keeping records in poly outer sleeves for decades, slid in from the side to make it easy to remove the records (with poly inner sleeves).
To prevent the dreaded bunching up, I keep two 12x12 sheets of card stock handy (in my case, pieces of LP jackets that a record company had used for packaging). Sandwich the album between the two sheets to keep the sleeve from catching on adjacent albums while inserting it into the cabinet. Then pull each sheet out, leaving the sleeved album behind.
Glad I found your video. Very helpful. I just started collecting a few vinyls here and there and definitely want to keep them clean and preserved.
not only subscribed for the great content but also the fact that you own a Casket Girls Record.Huge fan of that band and thought I was the only one who listened to them. Its awesome to see other people like or own their music.
Thanks for the sub! The Casket Girls album I bought purely off the cool artwork and band name lol I ended up loving it!
just bought those square deal inner sleeves best decision I made for my vinyls they work amazing! And they look great when take them out of the jacket. Great video!
Thank you for taking the time to share your vinyl knowledge 👍😊 cheers
found your video when looking for outer and inner sleeve solutions and ended up buying the vinyl storage solution duel pocket resealable sleeves and also their rice paper inner sleeves. love how the outer sleeves are so clear compared to other ones that are out there.
I’ve had mine over a year and they haven’t clouded or faded at all! Still crystal clear.
I spent the best part of a day replacing all my sleeve into VSS ones - I Love Them and when I say them I mean Mike, he is a genius
Love Vinyl Storage Solutions! Top notch sleeves! I buy a few hundred of the duel pocket cutters and same with the inner sleeves! Great deals too if you buy more! Plus free shipping to the US with orders over 75.00 CA!!! Cant beat that! Also with the dual pocket sleeves you can combine 2 sleeve so the gatefold will open and use the two extra openings to store you're records!
Hi there, my name is Larry and also something that I really like to do is when I remove the shrink wrap from the album, I remove the hype sticker from the shrink wrap by blowing on it with a hair dryer on the hot setting and this removes the hype stick pretty easily even on older records from the 70's 80's & 90's! What I then do is place the hype sticker on the outside of the poly sleeve and it looks really nice when the vinyl album is in the sleeve!
some nice tips and tricks you're sharing! def agreeing on all of them :D
Those are the best outter sleeves!
I use 2 on each of my gatefolds. Allows you to still open them and view the inside, and 2xLPs get their own individual record pockets.
Totally agree 💯 I’ve been using them for years now. They also have covers without the adhesive strip. I use those for single records.
I ordered the double ouch ones from vinyl solutions. LOVE THEM!the guy loves in my hometown as well woot woot.
New subscriber!! I loved this! I just bought a turntable for the records I have and I've been loving been able to finally listen to them!
Morgan Olivia Music thanks so much! There’s nothing quite like putting a record on the turntable!
I purchased some round bottom inner poly sleeves that fit perfectly in the paper sleeve it comes with.
Thank you, really a big THANK YOU for this useful video ! Your advices are precious. :-)
Very nice video! Thank you for the precious tips!!
Getting some leather sofas again. Yep you're the perfect person to listen to for vinyl storage advice.
I use a solid 3mm poly bag for the sleeve. I then put the record in a mofi sleeve behind the album cover (all in the 3mm poly bag). I've found this to be the best way. Buy the MOFI master sleeves, or something comparable. The cheaper ones start to turn yellow after a few years, and I had to replace them all.
I just fixed my Audio Technica lp60 speed issues thanks to your video, that's a sub and loyalty :D BTW i needed to download a second app since the 10 free tries with the recommended one ran out when i was just getting the hang of it. Came here to see if i should replace my paper sleeves with the brand new premium master sleeves i've got from big fudge
Your little girl is like “How long you been listen to these dummies?”
As mentioned, storing records stacked horizontally is bad. Because of gravity, after a while, the recording surface starts to ripple (like a dancer's skirt when she stops spinning), as it droops because the hub & labels are slightly thicker than the recording surface.
re 1:26 I noticed some of his records are leaning. After a while leaning, both the cardboard sleeve & the record will begin to bend or bow into a potato chip shape, bad for the sound because it forces the plastic to stretch slightly & if bad enough, part of the tone-arm could touch the surface during play. So the end records don't topple or slide over and bend, as his will, I just swing a handful of the end records like the pages of an upright book (about 40-50 degrees), so the back edge of the sleeves are held upright by the shelf back and the other records or the shelf divider. A similar option, if there is just a few inches of unused space, is to swing all the records in a shelf partition so they are all supported exactly vertically by one partition at the back on one side, and the other partition at the front on the other side, keeping them all vertical.
BTW: Another storage hint: keep your records cool. This is obvious if you ever kept any wax masters, but vinyl records are a relatively soft plastic, which (like wax & glass) is not truly solid, and the warmer it is, the more susceptible it is to scratch, wear, & deformation.
I hope these suggestions help you cherish your collection.
Thanks for the info 👍🏻
I use Vinyl Fever Sleeves, they work great and have a little more room
I like those new sleeves you showed off. Does it work ok with double lps or gatefolds? It looks like it would probably be ok.
Glad to see a true music lover !
CVS eat breathe and sleep music! And write when I have time!
@@VinylforMiles Nice we are 2 🤘
C Hoc yup for newbies or people who are getting into collecting. A season collector already knows all this :)
Very informational...….Thanks
The Vinyl Storage Solutions inner sleeves are great as well (and they have the rice paper which they claim reduces static). Not sure why you didn't give them a shout-out. I'm in the process of conserving a collection spanning 60 years, and their sleeves are working great. I'm also using their dual pocket outer sleeves with the flaps, and so far it's working really well.
Viynl storage solutions offers some rice inner sleeves that are great and cheap too!
Thank you so much!
For the last 45 years I've only ever stored my precious one way and only way only. Premium flight cases bound in chains and padlocks.
Call me over zealous, I don't care. Not even my kids (when they were kids) ever got to see my vynl. Far too precious!!
Make sure to get a good insurance policy on your grails!!
hey bud have u ever noticed any sticky residue on your vinyl covers been stored in the plastic dust cover? ive seen some topic on discogs of what they say is lamination decomposing,,ive about 20 records with this sticky residue from just been stored,just wondering have ever had this problem,,my vinyls are all original like 30 40 yrs old u no like gnr nirvana pearl jam,,
Put the outer sleeve in a poly sleeve. Put the actual record in a MoFi inner sleeve. Store the record on the outside of the record sleeve inside the poly outer sleeve. Don't remove the shrink from your records, especially if they have hype stickers on them. It will decrease the value! IF record isnt stored in original jacket you won't have any warping issues. THIS is the best way to store vinyl records.
Baby at 5:31 be like: dad, buy me a toys and good powder milk instead of buying this vinyl XD
Mad Archangel in Disguise hahaha she gets the best. She loves going through the records
Nice and clever outer sleeve. However I have never liked the having the record outside the cover technique. Mostly because I also enjoy back cover artwork. I know it helps protect the disc yadda yadda and many people like it because you can see the actual record label to see the detailed track listings. I prefer seeing the back cover as well as the front. When I was really into listening to vinyl in the 80s and 90s I knew my collection well enough that I didn't need to inspect the detailed track list unless I was having a tough time deciding on what to listen to. Keeping the disc outside of the cover isn't for me aesthetically.
Where can I get the poly sleeve that has outer pocket for the record online? Also what’s ur solution for albums with two records in each jacket sleeve?
Great video. Very helpful. One question though. What thickness of inner sleeve do you use? Is there a noticeable difference between the 2mil and 3m when sliding them back in the cover? I guess that was 2 questions!
3mm is the same thickness as most outer sleeves so I'd imagine those are more difficult to get in and out the jacket. I don't think the extra thickness is all that helpful if you're storing the record inside the jacket and the jacket inside an outer sleeve.
Is it ok if I don’t have a cube to set them in will they be ok if there resting against a single table leg?
Where did you purchase the black cube storage units ? I was wondering if the IKEA ones are strong enough for record LPs
Nice video. I'm one of the people that likes to keep the factory shrink on. Mainly so I don't have to use a plastic sleeve for every record.
I've got records from the mid 90's still in the factory shrink that are totally fine.
A big cause of warped records can be gatefold jackets. If you push your records right in close to the spine of the jacket the fold can cause the records to warp.
And yeah, that thing with the plastic sleeve sliding off the record when trying to put it away drives me freaking nuts!👍
Gavin Young awesome! Yeah I have a few I just split the seam on and kept the wrap on. It’s mostly old unopened shrink wrap records that are warped. I am always weary of sealed copies of older records :) a lot of labels have been using sealable poly sleeves lately. Pretty cool!
Came here for vinyl storage tips, but gave a like bc of Nick Johnston (the storage info was useful too though). Love his new album
Do you store your record out of the sleeve and keep it behind the cover? Trying to work out weather to start going through mine and storing them like this! Going to invest in some mofi inner sleeves!
This is how I store mine and I prefer it. Outer sleeve opening pointed up with the inner facing left (so the disc doesn't fall when you take the inner sleeve out) behind the jacket. Really saves the corners of the jacket from wearing down and also it's just a lot easier to play a record this way. Only downside is you can't see the back of the jacket unless you pull the disc out. But, I use clear inners so I can just see whatever track list is on the disc label facing out. Try it for discs you play often because it's so much easier.
my sleeves come off when i put them on the shelf ,its cos all the record shelves are so packed i can not fit the albums in, i am officially out of storage space, but i cant stop buying records, we are in lockdown and i still managed to buy 7 lps over the last 24 hours.
Me too! I’m starting to store my overflow all over the house lol
I love these sleeves and always hated paper sleeves. They make me cringe lol. Where'd you get your long wood vinyl case or storage from? I need that one.
Very helpful.
Where did you get the cabinet? Or did you make it. That’s why I need. I only have about 500 albums. It just looks neat and tidy
This one was from target but I recommend Walmart or IKEA as they are more sturdy. I’ve since upgraded
What about sleeves with artwork? They are like shiny paper so I’m not sure if they affect the record besides static
Very helpful thank you
It sucks with the sleeves because they slide around inside the sleeves and i cant see the name of the record on the spine
Thanks so much for this
store my records in Poly Sleeves , plastic cover cover's . for decades i keep them in temperature / humidity controlled environment with no direct light source , until my famdamily an real close friends break-in an steal them
You can choose friends but cannot choose family. Maybe set up security cameras. God will be there on judgement to determine the punishment at the end. We all have had albums stolen from us.
So, should I keep the shrink wrap (or whatever the stuff that comes with the vinyl record itself) on my vinyl records or should I not? I'm a little lost on if it'll warp or not if I keep the shrink wrap (sleeve cover) on it because I just got into collecting vinyls and I'm just not sure how to store them for the long-term without any usage at the moment without having it get warped or damaged.
Best bet is to remove; better to not risk is shrinking more than to.
most of my records i bought in the 80s and 90s i have never removed the shrink wrap amd are not warppped.plus now they are over 35 years old and its cool to look at the stixkers that came stuck outside the record and the price.
PAMAROSHOUSE awesome!
I have bought 60 year old shrink wrapped albums. No problem
Carey Schoffer nice! I’ve not had as good luck as you :)
You got yourself a subscriber.
shrink wrap def can lead to warping. i bought a brand new record a couple of years ago and opened it, i saw it playing like a warped record but I thought it was just my felt mat. turns out it was the record. i think the shrink wrap also affected the sleeve a bit too. a more extreme example is of a record i got where the previous owner just slit the side and kept the shrink wrap on, i looked at it and the record is warped and the sleeve isn’t in the best condition either. definitely recommend buying plastic coverings esp since they aren’t that much and are a good investment in your records
I agree! Open the record, save the hype sticker and put it in an archival sleeve :)
Can anyone tell me if there's any proof of records developing an edge warp (or any other warpage) from storing them vertically, but not standing "straight up" and leaning onto each other slightly?
Have a couple records with that cheap paper inner sleeve, i been getting irritated with it too. Should I just take it out the sleeve and let it sit without it or should I just deal with it?
Use the mofi rice paper sleeves to store your records. Keep the original inserts in the jacket unused.
And the main reason for having the record sleeve on the record that way, is to protect against dust surely?. Your wanting to create a dust seal as well as protecting the artwork etc!,
I’m often surprised at how many people store records with the opening accessible, purely to make it easier to get the record out, not thinking about protecting it from dust
I store mine with the outer sleeve opening facing down to prevent dust. I haven't seen anyone else store it that way, makes me feel like I'm wrong lol
@@TheBorathon store it facing up. You're going to wear out the bottom seam of your jackets by rubbing it unprotected against the shelf.
Is there any discount codes for the duel sleeves?
I’m surprised you don’t have more subscribers.
Is it ok to store vinyls flat if theres only a small amount of them? Ive only been collecting vinyls for about a year so my collection is extremely small, i dont have a lot of storage space for them right now so ive been keeping some of them flat, only stacking i think 6 on top of each other. The other ones i had vertically like the other ones you have in your video
Should be fine but once you get more than 10 start storing them vertically.
For gatefolds look for 12.75 x 12.75 outer sleeves. Most plastic sleeves are 12.75 x 12, with the 12 being the width of the opening. These are generally too small for gatefolds.
Hey man, so I ordered these sleeves and my question is if an album comes with two records, would you recommend sticking both records in the outer pocket sleeve? Will that ruin them over time being so close together? Thanks!
Btw, they’re both in plastic inner sleeves!
Alex P it is a little tight in 2 LP sets, I currently just use these for single LPs.
Are polyester outer sleeves a good choice?
Dang! This was super useful! Thank you so much for this video and the very logical and down-to-earth explanations.
I'm absolutely grabbing those dual pocket sleeves!
What about double LP‘s? Can you put em in inner sleeves and then (both) in one outer sleeve where the jacket and maybe lyric sheet is in?
I wanna store my double LP‘s on the backside of my records but I don’t know what the best way is…
Yes you can use two of them together for gatefolds. They also just released a specific gatefold sleeve this last month.
These are great tips! Thanks! I have my mother's album collection which is at least 50 years old, no exaggeration. I will be ordering the inner sleeve for the LP's. I have always stored these vertically as you advise, but these old album covers have warped. Some records have warped but not to the point the sound is distorted, thank goodness. Anything I can do to return the cardboard covers flat? With the protective inner sleeves for the vinyl, I don't want to place it back into a warped cardboard cover. Thanks for any advise you can offer!
Hey niles if its your name. First thanks for all this great informAsion, it will help my vinyl a lot, thanks. Another thing, do you believe in ghost, cause when you sat on the flor with little man and showed the new protectcover there was some orbs which fly from top and down to where the little boy was sitting, saw it at least twice.. so if you had field anything in your home, sow now you know there is something who maybe protect the little guy, ore just listen to whats going on, maybe its nothing, but try to look for your self. Good luck and thanks .
How do you do this with double records?
Best way I've found for preventing the sleeves from sliding off is to put a tiny dab of blue tac on them
2:32 all of my sleeves look like that even though I always stored them vertically, is this normal? from all videos and guides I've watched you are the only one that mentioned this issue, you say it only just annoys you, but I want to know if it could be a potential danger to the record or if the sleeve will eventually get destroyed or something
You could be storing too many records on each shelf. If it’s super tight sliding the record into place than it’s too tight.
@@VinylforMiles I actually only own 5 of them haha, I'm quite new, they are currently sitting inside of a bookshelf where there's space to store them, thing is that the sleeves with the records inside would try to fall upwards so I placed one of these plastic CD racks in front of them so that they wouldn't fall, its positioned right in the middle of the sleve and I guess thats what causing that pressure which isnt present on the sides, causing the sleeves to look like that, so far the records are in perfect condition, but I'm worried something might happen to them in the future, which is why I'm currently searching for something specifically designed to store em...
I want to preserve my artwork where are some places i can get some poly sleeves?
Vinylstoragesolutions.ca
Supposedly if you take off the shrink wrap, it detracts from the LP's value. I don't know why. I've had shrink wrap on LP's since I started buying them in 1964. I just knew that the cover would get worn out without some kind of protection over it. So my Beatle albums still look pretty close to new.
Solved my problem with the outer protector sleeves sliding off by inserting the LP from the top instead of the sides. My concern right now is the potential of ring wear.
As long as you store your Lps the proper way- vertically inside protective sleeves, not too tightly packed together, ring wear is not an issue..And when the cover is not inside the sleeve, don't drag/slide it on any surfaces like tables or cabinets...Ideally whenever it's not in a sleeve it can be stored upright in a Lp display stand..
The wrap causes pressure warping the sleeve and vinyl~
"Proceeds to stuff record into poly sleeve"
Poly sleeves are designed for long term storage and are not suctioned like shrink wrap
Great video. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together. One tip though, 1 mil is .001 of an inch. So your 2mil sleeves are .002" thick, the 5mil are .005" etc. A 2mm sleeve would be well over 1/8" in total thickness. Keep up the good work.
That Canadian company that you mentioned has inner sleeve protectors too. Also, I've been buying vinyl since 1971. But, I've only just gotten back into it. I have some catching up to do as far as protection and styluses. BTW, I'm still using my vintage Realistic LAB 400 turntable with the vintage stylus still on it. I haven't actually played anything on the turntable since the early to mid 80's. I just purchased a new belt and a new Audio-Technica at95e stylus with cartridge and shell which is scheduled to be here Saturday.
What about records that come with special inner sleeves, not the cheap paper but the ones that are more like cardboard and have art on them like that crow ost, should I replace those too, or are they cool?
I would replace them because that cardstock its printed on can stick to your record and damage both the vinyl and print. Best thing to do is replace it and frame that extra artwork
DO NOT THROW AWAY ORIGINAL INNERS. You will tank the value of your record. Put the disc in a different inner sleeve and just keep the originals within the jacket.
if the record comes with a antistatic sleeve already, do you still replace the it?
I do not unless I want to use the newer clear sleeves that you can see the pressing through
Sleeve City has been quality inner sleeves.
Great solutions. Thanks for posting.
where did you get the 3x2 cube shelf storage?
Target but I would recommend ikea over this. The one I got is pretty wobbly now :/
I’ve also heard putting the record sideways in the outer sleeve will prevent less ringwear on the outer sleeve
Nice tight fit there. You'll love the ringwear in about a year. You can keep it in the side pocket..it will just press a ringwear from the outside. Your crow record is also gonna have serious scratches kept in the paper inner sleeve.
Good vid though!
What’s the point of paying for “rice” paper when the paper is covered with plastic??other than if being more ridged.
Great video dude...those Vinyl storage solutions sleeves are pretty clever, and solve the major problem with resealable outer sleeves- P.I.T.A to open every time!! I've also discovered the Square Deal inner rice/poly sleeves, they are great and a bit cheaper than the Mofis...
Vinyl Storage Solutions!
I think the shrink wrap = bad is both a fact and a myth lol. It's kind of like asking if I wrap this piece of string around my finger is that good or bad? If you wrap it to tight and cut off circulation for years....bad. If not too tight it makes no difference. I think shrink is the same way. Some lps come with very, very tight shrink wrapping and you can see the pressure on the cover from day one. Sometimes coming out of the store with a slight bend already taking place. Others are just fitted and not to snug and will actually do more good over the years than bad. I personally take all my shrink off now, but really each person just needs to use tad bit of common sense and look at the shrink. Take the record and inner sleeve out and look at the cover. If you see the slightest indication of pressure...remove the shrink :)
mrhoffame labels like kscope and musiconvinyl use sealable poly sleeves instead of shrink wrap which is awesome!
What I do so there is no pulling out of the album jacket unless you want to is to insert the album along with jacket cover on the back side. That way I can just pull the album out without messing with the jacket. This also helps avoid wring wear. The double packet are cool.
Now we know what you do when the wife goes..."Can you watch her for a bit. I need to run out". lol
“By watch the kids you mean film a video right hon?” Hahaha
My dad and I are making a record crate.
Little cute angel special visit :o)
How do you protect the artwork on your box sets?
Vinyl storage solutions make box set sleeves now: vinylstoragesolutions.ca/collections/box-set-outer-sleeves
@@VinylforMiles thanks
I just did the sliding the record sleeve behind the album tip and it’s giving me a little anxiety. It’s in a mofi sleeve, but I can’t help but think the pressure of being stored between other albums will somehow ruin the record like that. It’s my OCD collector anxiety talking.
I use that method for discs I play a lot. Like you, I do worry about long term storage with this method. I wouldn't recommend squeezing a bunch of records like this on a single shelf because it's true that the vinyl is less protected if it's not in the cardboard jacket. But for records I play a lot they aren't crammed into a tight shelf anyway.