Will Bukele Intervene in Haiti? A Nation's Live Collapse
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As has been warned for years, the growing power and violence of Haiti's gangs would eventually collapse the country, causing it to fall into the bag of failed states. Indeed, March 2024 certifies this event.
Haitian gangs, fueled by drug money and weapons, have achieved their goal: depose the prime minister, capture the capital and virtually take control of the country. In the face of this situation, plans to stabilize the Caribbean country are already flourishing, but the obstacles are enormous.
How have the gangs managed to deal the decisive blow to the Haitian state, how have they amassed so much power, and is there a solution to the spiral of chaos and violence in which the Caribbean country is immersed?
#Haiti #Caribbean #Crisis
This man spent over two minutes calling Haiti the biggest shit hole in the most sophisticated way
I thought I was crazy.
To be fair, it kind of is. You need to call them out for what they are so that they might improve.
I really hate this trend on the internet that it's okay for rich countries to be called such, but they tend to be lenient with poor countries because they are poor.
@@cashewnuttel9054if they had money they’d be using bigger guns…
call a pipe a pipe
But is Haiti not a shit hole????
Like the Dominican president said at the UN this year:
"Either we fight together to save Haiti or we will fight alone to protect the Dominican Republic."
I’m done with the whyte knighting.
@@shelleyscloud3651it’s not white knighting when a country runs itself into the ground so bad that it becomes a center for criminals across an entire region and starts a refugee crisis. It’s gotten so bad that it’s a collective issue, and I’m sure the average Haitian isn’t exactly happy with the situation either.
@@shelleyscloud3651 Dominicans arent white
@@shelleyscloud3651 I agree, but this time we are too close, just like Dominican Republic, Haitians boat can and will flood into US.
@@Verpal fair point indeed. But for decades we’ve been burning billions on developing countries. Nothing improves. The only areas of growth are corruption, crime & birth rates. Then we just get blamed for their continued failure. So ok, we can keep trying, but either accept inevitable failure or tear up the rule book for a whole new approach - like creating a protectorate. And that won’t be politically palatable.
We should stop calling them, gangs their armed, and they have political motivations. They should be classified as paramilitary.
If anyone did their homework on the so called "gangs", they are and were privately maintained by government officials for years to carry protect their interest... much like oh let's say, a multi-termed president and many countries, like Putin, who gets rid of the opposition. So yes, paramilitary they are. And well armed.
Even if someone "intervenes"... its been done before. As long as someone is there to enforce order, there is order. As soon as that intervention ends and, whatever kind of force, leaves, order collapses again.
So whats the point? Sitting on them forever isn't sustainable. Which is what someone would need to do 🤷🏻♀️.
Do your research and find out what the truth is. You will not be so quick to comment.
Haiti needs a Haitian lead solution, No Foreigners should have a say in Haitian Affairs. A Foreign intervention have failed and will fail again, Haitian will not respect any Puppet, Unelected, Government. Hands Off Haiti
@@rtaluy then the problem will never be solved
@@rtaluyHaitians have shown themselves to be incapable of solving the problem
@@jzabala10You are telling me they should just accept what they consider a puppet unelected leader?
ROLF... See you in 10 years for the same video!
Same with the so called Palestine.
A lot less time than that probably
Not if they can get the US and France out.
@@trashtalker9753 Good joke bud! 🤣
Do you think when people a country is a failed nation they mean the country soon will disappear and its citizens will inevitably flee?
Haiti cannot be fixed, It's an eternal mess. Dominican Republic has to look after it's borders because Haiti is going to get worst.
We’re building a wall as fast as possible but idk how long that will last if the entire border gets overrun
Well, France did stole money from them. It was money France had never deserved.
@@jbalien20 well all that adds to their future looking grim.
@@jbalien20 France didn't steal the money, france imposed a debt... the US picked up that debt and had haiti repay it and citigroup instead and has been installing its own governments ever since.
The only way to fix Haiti is for a rich country to annex it.
Soooo, who gets the hundreds of $millions? The gangs?
the one's who are able to fool the gullible. once that money goes to haiti. its gone. it went all to weapons and lavishness.
@@ChickenMcThiccken weapons, lavishness, the salvation army, so called relief causes... Haiti only saw less than 2% of "aid"... look it up. Most orgs don't even stick around, they get their money, pay the politicians, get their media recognition and leave. Some don't even make it there, just take the money.
100% guaranteed
@@ChickenMcThiccken just like African countries
I'm sick and tired of this country
But you love the Chinese, buying up all your beaches.
@rtaluy The hell are you talking about
@@giniolamy looks like you from Jamaica or St. Thomas, either way, Haitians still own most the beaches in haiti except labadee. The poorest Haitians still have deeds to their land, unlike most in the Caribbean where Foreigners own the Beaches while the native canot go on the beaches. Help Haiti stay free, stop being a hater wherever you from.
Then mind your business and stay out in your ignorance
Wherever country you come from worry about your country you don't know Haiti history because your ignorance is bliss.
As a citizen of a neighboring country, it is my view, based on the historical record of Haiti, NO country's government, military, NGO, or political influence can solve the "Haitian" problem.
The international forces will immediately be subjected to challenges by the local gangs, and I fear it will end badly for all involved.
ONLY HAITIANS can solve Haiti's problems.
The irony is that those people do not want: foreign intervention because it is against the interests of the corrupt oligarchs, politicians, police, and the gangs.
Many neighboring countries are very concerned about spillover within their national borders, due to large illegal Haitians present.
They should start with their Constitution.
I think you got that backwards, the oligarchs though corrupt, we agree there, are ok with corrupt gov. especially if ok'd by the US... it gives them some kind of leverage. What's happened is, they killed the president and under him, most of those gangs were being funded by parts of the government and are still being funded. These aren't "gangs" in the usual sense, these are oligarch and politician mercenaries and private militias... do the search on youtube alone for what's going on in other parts of haiti... regular life, brunches, parties, vacations... what you see on TV is the capital. I live chat with friends and family there that "hear" things and living regular lives. So much for actual news.
Crazy thing is the poorest people are talking about no foreign intervention when in actuality,that only helps the same oligarchs whom continually keep them oppressed in their own country. There's no way they can fix the country themselves.
Oh and I'm sure you and I are from the same country (Buddy Buckets)
@@manfromthepast "There's no way they can fix the country themselves." and thats how you end up in this situation.
When they have had enough they will rise up, "helping" only increases the time it will take. Haiti needs to fix Haiti.
USA Canada and France need to stop deciding who the leaders of Haiti needs to be. Let the people decide..Guy Philippe HAITIAN people need to
Thanks for this information. ❤️ the Haitian people. I’m praying for Haiti. 🇭🇹 🙏🏾
I am 57... so I've been around for a while... and don't remember when Haiti wasn't a $hithole.
Haiti is one of those countries that no matter who is legitimately elected will never be able to fix the problem. The people are bound to have a civil war, the outcome is not rosy. If outside nations get involved then it will get bloody at the start and will take 20 years of occupation to rebuild the country and steer it in the right direction and only 5 years to unravel all that was done unless the people in Haiti as a whole are ready to improve.
Hope they get the transitional council running,thst the 1st step
That’s completely not true. It wasn’t like that under the Aristide regime!
Do your research diligently and you will find out the the truth truth.
That's the issue, Haitians need to elect their leaders , what you have today is a Selected Puppet of the west. Matter of fact all Government officials are UNELECTED. Haitians need Free Elections with no interference from the international community
Google core group
Conan o Brien loves Haiti so does Oprah
p diddy too
Thanks for posting 📫
Like Afghans, these people want to live like this. Let them. Can't force liberal democracy on people who don't want it.
“It’s okay because I say it’s okay” is what this argument boils down too. The laws of right and wrong do not change for anyone. Good and evil are constants and absolutes. Some ways of living are objectively better than others. At one point, the Germans wanted the Nazis in power. Does that make it okay to you?
I think journalists love saying barbecue.
He’s kidnapped a CZcamsr called Arab.
@@mintyfresh569 it was another gang group
let them have their own country, they said in 1804, what can go wrong? :))))
They literally let a bunch different African tribes that didn’t speak the same language and some were enemies to govern themselves 💀
And defeated the white man what do you know hatians are genius @@Gentejode
They genocided everyone except themselves if you look at their history.
China: warring states era
Haiti: warring streets era
As a Haitian I watch videos like this to have an idea of how strangers see us. Everytime it hurts more than last time. I just pray for my country. Maybe one day we will get through this.
Since change needs to happen within each human heart, praying is the best thing to do!
Most of us live in countries like the US that have engaged in far more violence around the world that Haiti even could. Don’t feel bad but do continue to pray. I’m praying for Haiti too.
Correction: Vivir Juntos is the Spanish equivalent to "Viv Ansam", which is how you say it in Haitian Creole
i was wondering if anyone was going to fact check that ... should have been common sense that haitian gangs wouldnt have a spanish name
Who cares
Toda latinoamerica necesita a Bukele
Not in HAITI. 😂
00:59 "no sights... no problem!"
So it's not just the American ones...
Money pit country. We shouldn't get involved *ever*.
I Agree, NO FOREIGN TROOPS in HAITI.
HAITI NEEDS A HAITIAN LEAD SOLUTION.
@@rtaluyBarbecue dictatorship
Agreed!
@@rtaluyyep! Which they will never get.
@@rtaluyCan u suggest any ?, i would like to hear.
what a joke haiti is
Rather harsh
@@Vanced-ii3bjAgreed 🙏🏾
Good video.
I am skeptical that he could, yet intrigued that he may.
Bukele, I believe can be the one to help lead the change, he fixed up El Salvador 🇸🇻 I say he should be in charge and helping stabilizing the nation of Haiti 🇭🇹 ❤
Good job
How do the logistics work in a country like this? How do food, fuel and other supplies get to the shops? Is there business ongoing, like local manufacturing? How do they get their raw materials and products in and out of the country? How are hospitals run? Airports? I have so many questions honestly. This feels like it will collapse into a blackhole of a total humanitarian catastrophe, famine, the whole nine yards within mere weeks if not days.
basically like how gang run neighbourhoods operate but on a larger scale
@@dunnoewatzgood That's... not a very sustainable way of doing things.
@@TheCloudhopper Yeah. It's not. Haiti is gonna destroy itself.
I wonder what Conan O Brian thinks of Haiti now?
He probably still thinks it's a beautiful country😂😂😂
Send AOC and the rest of the Squad there on one-way tickets.
International Intervention in Haiti. Compare that with the USA failed attempts in "nation building" in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military victories are easily accomplished. Nation building is very difficult. The USA succeeded militarily in Iraq and Afghanistan but failed in "nation building". The "nation building" failure falls not on the USA but on Iraq and Afghanistan. The "nation building" success in post WW2 Japan and Germany falls not on the USA but on Japan and Germany. The mindset, value set, culture of the peoples of Japan and Germany were suitable for nation building. The intention of International Intervention in Haiti is nation building. Haiti is currently a failed state. The mindset, value set, culture of the people of Haiti is not yet suitable for nation building. To paraphrase a song by the late Eddy Kendricks: "Haiti, you need a change of mind".
Who wants to intervene in Haiti? The poverty and misery of Haiti is its best defense.
When the USA embargoed Cuba in 1960 about 50,000 haitians (seasonal workers) were marooned. In the 1960's and 1970's Cuba sent revolutionary activists (military, civilian) to Central America, South America, the Caribbean, and Africa. But Castro sent no agents to Haiti. Puzzling, given that there is a large haitian community in Cuba from which to recruit agents. A journalist asked the Cuban Ambassador to the United Nations why no agents were sent to Haiti. Answer: "Who wants to inherit Haiti's problems?"
Yes, there were rumors of a 1966 plan to send 300 people from Cuba to overthrow Duvalier and nothing came about. Duvalier justified the various mass seizures, arrests, killings because of various coup attempts (real and rumored). Duvalier declared himself president for life in 1964.
I am amused by talking heads discussing without end about transition committees, United Nations programs, and other such "democratic" trivialities. The Ancient Greeks had it correct: the machinery of democracy is always too slow to fix a crisis. To fix a crisis the Ancient Greek Elders appoint a tyrant whose orders are followed without question. Key: without question; because questioning (via democratic process) takes too long while the crisis worsens. What are the characteristics of the ideal tyrant? Answer: Reputation for honesty, inegrity, virtue, experience, wisdom, and VIOLENCE; and nationwide respect. The tyrant is chosen from the citizenry; the tyrant cannot be a foreigner. Also: the tyrant is wise enouigh to retreat from power when the crisis is solved away. Usually the tyrant has to exert violence upon those damaging the citizenry. Violence brings about primordial fear and respect is the underlayer of fear. One cannot fear without respect. Fear may foment Resentment and still respect lingers with Resentment. Respect of the capability of the tyrant to eliminate you.
While the pundits, empty talking heads, politicians, intellectuals emitting hot air pollution about Transition Committees and Assorted Plans, Haiti needs to find its Tyrant (in the Ancient Greek meaning), its Cincinnatus. If Haiti can find a Toussaint L'Ouverture (NOT J.J. Dessalines) as tyrant, so much the better.
The pundits say that elections will remedy Haiti's problems. Nope. One will just replace 1 set of bad buys with another set of bad guys. Main problem is institutional corruption. Yes, the first step is to eliminate the current gangs but a full and honest understanding of how and why the gangs came about is needed. Basic rule of Law needs to be established. Really basic. Property Rights connected to proper individual identity. Hernando de Soto, a Peruvian economist, understood that property rights are needed for economic progress. The Clinton Administration had the correct idea to reform the legal system in Haiti but found the records of ownership of land and businesses were very poor and frauds of all kinds were common. Land reform is needed. Proper identification of individuals is needed (with accurate birth and death certificates). For a time, foreign administration of Customs, Post-Office, Ports, and other Government Institutions is needed. Also K-16 curriculum needs to reformed. Unfortunately > 90% of haitian intellectuals are socialists. To paraphrase the philosopher The Joker, Haiti needs an enema.
I've never seen anyone do such an accurate analysis of haitis situation. So true.
Iraq is doing just fine now, actually. Stop telling lies
Supriced to see such a accurate and determined analysis of Haiti, unfortunately the west doesnt have the knowledge or the spine to do it
Only clicked on this because of the Bukele mention but this is just a rehash of what has already been reported.
Clickbait, it still works.
Every cent sent to this country is wasted!
The real problem is that the US, Canada and other nations are asking each other what to do in Haiti rather than what Haiti should do in its own country. The chaos will continue until that part changes unfortunately.
They’re gonna ask which Haiti? The government’ gone
Well, now nobody want to more money so please, show us how you can do alone... ❤
🤡🤣
Bullsh1t. Haïti has proven over generations that no matter the political regime, no matter how much aid comes in, it is incapable of self-administration. The problem is cultural.
What Haiti HAS DONE to itself.
They alone are responsible for where they are. Like Somalia,DR Congo,Liberian Sierra Leone in the 1990s....
Anywhere they go
@@WinstonMaraj-gx8sm not exactly fair to say that when the US has occupied the country for 15 years and with France, have plundered a lot of the country's wealth. Yes, the country has its corruption problems due to the elites funding these groups, but to say that it's Haiti's alone isn't quite fair to say.
Where did all those Billions go after the earthquake? Send down Sean Penn, he’ll straighten it out.
It was Stolen by Hillary Clinton at the state department and Never went to the Haitian people.
Straight to the pockets of the red cross, the Clinton's, politicians and so called charities
Gangs need to be equipped somehow
Those BILLION$ never reached there. 😂
Ask HILLARY CLINTON, she will explain to you the rest.
Laundered through the Clinton Foundation
This is crazy
How much tire burning stock footage do you guys have?
Just to clarify, is Haiti the poorest country in the northern hemisphere like you stated, or poorest country in the western hemisphere? I think it’s the latter but may be both.
*Yes
I was wondering the same. Im sure i always hear the porlorest in the western.
It’s not the poorest in the northern hemisphere
Both. It's the poorest country in the northern hemisphere and in the Americas.
Let's make A online petition for Conan go go back to Haiti
Political parties, criminal gangs; same thing, no difference…
South Africa is just the same, maybe worse with 80 plus murders a day, infrastructure destroyed etc.
8th
Atleast in SA you have an actual elected gov't.
A government of criminals.@@tauceti8060
@@tauceti8060Causes that totally keeps people safe 🤡
Our politicians aren't much better
Wakanda forever.
Bro this is the absolute opposite to Wakanda😂
@@tauceti8060Wakanda was way more tribal admittedly, maybe the gang leaders should get naked and fight
But..... Conan O'Brien said that Haiti was great! He even sold T-shirts!
13:15 if you want to skip to the part where they finally talk about Bukele
Well. I hope everyone has learned something from this experiment.
This country is hopeless. Let them solve their own problems.
The thing is, we all know how to solve this. It wont be pretty but .....
DR about to get bigger!
From Google: Early in the 19th century, Haiti helped modern-day northwest Brazil, Guyana, Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, northern Peru, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, and Bolivia to obtain their independence.
Americas 🌎 need to keep russia Europe Asia Africa Middle East out of America continent and countries and islands
What a shame
No.
Will it even matter in the first place?
The men are out of control
The whole country is out of control.
But lemme guess...MEN BAD
how is the man named BBQ doing
I find it interesting you didn't point out that this prime minister had no constitutional authority and was not elected. Yet the united States in Canada recognized his authority even though the Haitian people didn't.
No
Simon has a way better watch game than Josh.
How are they not called terrorists?
Kenya is right to hesitate in sending in their troops which would simply be "cannon fodder". Burkele should stay out, period. What worked in El Salvador will not work in Haiti. Haiti has to solve its own problems.
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The E in Macoute is silent. Same with Moïse. It's "mo-EEZ." French for Moses.
i don't know where you're getting your information from but a majority of those people who were in the prisons were political prisoners that weren't charged for any crimes and did not go through any due process of the law.
2nd what's going on in Haiti is far more complex. the united states, France, Canada have routinely interfered with Haitian attempts at democracy everytime. They have undermined every effort at progress because if Haitians actually made progress they would have to acknowledge crimes they're not ready to tell the public they committed.
Nice shirt. I'll give you 20 bucks for it.
Stop calling these forces gangs these are forner military and police men .It is time for Haiti to decide for themselves who they want to be their leader and they have chosen Guy Philipe! God protect and bless Haiti in the mighty name of Jesus Christ 🇭🇹💪🏾🙌🏾🇭🇹😇🙌🏾🙏🏾
3:13 The gang coalition is called “Viv Ansanm,” (“Live Together”) not “Vive Juntos.” They don’t speak Spanish. And the coalition consists of more than just G9 and GPep. It’s all of the most powerful gangs in the Port-au-Prince metropolitan area. There has still been some fighting between G9 and GPep, and is still simmering conflict between other gangs in the coalition. They first formed this coalition in late 2023 but it didn’t even last for 2 weeks.
If we take Haiti, we keep Haiti. - T
To see how Haiti will end up go watch "A Piece of the Action"
Just straight up anarchy
Haitians need to stop fighting against each other and unite to build their side of the island. They need to return to Haiti if they want to be in charge of ruling their country . If you don’t want foreign intervention then they need to take control of their country and solve their own problems. there’s a lot of Haitians in diaspora with a lot of money and the wealthy oligarchs that have robbed them blind .
Why are you ignoring the people's choice, Guy Phillip. The people have spoken
When was that election? I didn’t vote
Look up “France reparations on Haiti” and you’ll begin to understand what’s happened to that poor nation.
What about criminal politicians
What Jimmy Barbecue doesn’t realize is he will be a target!!!! And more than likely will meet in person a drone sent for him!!!!
You did not talk about the U S involvement in the breaking of the haitian army.
Because there wasn’t any. Stop believing propaganda
Western Hemisphere!
Correction, Haiti not the poorest country that’s what they want the world to know but it’s not true. We have a lot of natural stuff in Haiti we just need a good government, lot of help and Haiti will be the best country. because we have a lot of good stories about us.
So who is the poorest country ? Mexico ?
What are the people eating?
Would setting up a safe haven inside Haiti guarded by the UN after a thorough check up on everyone to make sure they're not armed would be a good way to give it some stability?at least for a small part until the army can beat the armed groups
It’s Haiti. No one cares and no one should interfere.
Let Haitians figure out and carve out their future. They are a 200 yr old country. Old and mature enough to decide for themselves.
I think we have learned, as opposed as we may be to their ruthlessness, the approach taken by Papa Doc and Aristide is the only way to control the chaos of an ungovernable society.
Stop stupid camera click sound bytes.
Haiti is this hemispheres Afghanistan, the perpetual problem that you can't look away from for two seconds or the are collapsing again
thanks US/UN!!! if you don't know what this means then you shouldn't comment. Zero comparison to AFG. I'm literally laughing out loud. The level of terrible information on here is ... I was about to say unreal, then realized the misinformed can only work with what they hear....ok my bad
you feel so good and confident to say haiti is the poorest country in the atmosphere
Bukele is the solution
BUKELE😂?
His skin color alone could be a Barrier.
My solution? It will probably get deleted but let's try.
Terrible, I know. Haiti’s problem is that it starts with “Hait”?
It's a failed state
Give the military all power to cleans the land of gangs. Chain gangs and prisons. The problem is there are no jobs and food is scarce.
Blockade, 100% nothing in or out, 90 days should do it...
It’s time for so called international stop interfering in Haiti politics.Only free elections will set the country free.
Barbacue is not a criminal!
Bring the Powerheads of the Assembled groups/gangs to the Table as well. Listen to their Presentation/ Plans of the Country. Temporary Power could be Established for them to Work certain Areas for 6 months to 2 years if Need be. Also create a Voting process for the Inclusion of the Haitian people and that Transitional Team who the Citizens Voted for do some Positive Justice for the other Regions for again 6 months up to 2 years. Therefore, Inclusion shouldn't be an Issue. Now whoever Spreadsheet plans surpasses the other should and could be the Temporary Transitional Government.
Like Barbecue says, Do Not let outsiders pick and choose because the Negative Cycle will Continue. This is why the Citizens Voices will be heard through the Voting process. It's their Homeland they lives there, also they knows what's Best for Haiti and it's people. These outsiders don't know how and what it feels like to be a Todays Haitian. But the Haitian knows. Foreigners seems to Love watching the Country's Chaos because its in them( Devils) to be Entertained..❤ Haitian people be Strong My Brothers and Sisters.
I'm a Salvadorian American. I don't trust Bukele 100%. That's not a typo. I do not 100% trust him.
Is Jimmy BBQ a good guy or bad guy?
This is what happens when you don't have a proper government worse part it's a democracy that's collapsed
Bukele bukele bukele
Haiti cannot manage their affair properly but greed and selfishness over power over cares and love. A country without hope and darkness controlled the land.
I support the Montana agreement. To hold fair election and to fight corruption in all the government departments agencies. Check and balances against embezzlement preventing
theft inside the Haitian treasury bank account.
Come up with a constitution for Haiti that works. Outlaw all gangs and do what El Salvador did.
Eliminate the constitution tve US wrote during the invasions and return to the Haytian constitution of 1805 with a few amendments added. We do best when other nations don"t meddle.