The Most CONTROVERSAL Sonic Frontiers Award
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Do you think Sonic Should of Won?
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Intro: (0:00)
Pre-Hype (0:55)
Suspicious (2:40)
The Beginning of the End (4:07)
Sonic Vs Genshin (5:03)
Genshin Cheating (7:30)
Results and Reactions (10:35)
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I'm a massive sonic fan, but there is no way it would beat arcane and cyberpunk edgerunners. The fact that sonic frontiers didn't at least make the music nomination is fucking stupid.
And considering the official songs were released months before the game itself released, they couldn't play an "it came out too late" excuse.
Especially since Dad of Boy 2: Frosty Boogaloo was.
Nah they both lose to one piece
@@moosesues8887 wait one piece has a soundtrack????????
Yeah beating those 2 is a dream that will NEVER come true like come fucking on...
It does leave a sour taste in my mouth that sonic wasn't even nominated for best soundtrack tho.
Hell, SF doesn’t even get nominated at all
@@fr0ck360 hey, at least sonic team was happy they were on top 5 for players voice
I'm just waiting for an Ace Combat to be nominated for best soundtrack, at least once. The Game Awards don't value quality, just fame and money.
Wait, didn't it win a SteamAward for best soundtrack ?
i can say the same for genshin, just hear scaramouche boss theme
Imagine a Sonic series with the arcane animation style
That sounds doooope
Don't really care for arcane but I'd be down for that
@@widerekxxanimations6842 Yeah.. I was expecting that for Sonic prime but I’m not complaining 😅
@@elquesiempreusas649 the animation of prime is still great too
Very hype
sonic frontiers wasn't robbed by genshin, it was robbed by it's own playerbase
YES. But the community is genuinely too egotistical to realize that.
Even as someone who liked Frontiers and didn't care about Genshin, it was genuinely headscratching to see the community STILL blame Genshin players for cheating (despite the bot votes being removed), even though they ultimately only have themselves to blame for the taking the "Sonicsweep" too far in the first place.
Agree and disagree at the same time. Sonic fans absolutely shouldn't have been harassing anyone over it, but also Genshin shouldn't have been in the running in the first place because it didn't come out that year. If it did come out in 2022, then I'd say sonic didn't get robbed by genshin at all, but since it shouldn't have been there at all, it was robbed by it at least a little
@@Splonton Players voice award also had games such as Minecraft and Fortnite in the earlier rounds
@@SplontonIt's just the competitive nature when it comes to award shows I guess
@@Splonton sonic would've still dug its grave by gloating
As a Genshin fan, I didn't even know the player votes were going on until the 3rd round was well under way, when the toxicity was at its peak. It was quite the experience watching the two games I supported the most at eachothers throats the whole time.
Same
same
I only heard about it right now 😆😆😆 it was hilarious 😄😄
I did not even heard until we randomly got Free 800 Primos (Ok the 2nd time in the space of a month), I only know they were nominated for Best Mobile and Best Ongoing. (Which I know they lost to Marvel Snap and Final Fantasy, which to be fair, I saw that coming)
@@patrickmatrix9963 same, I just log in one da and saw the mail with primos i was in awe that we even got nominated let alone won
When I learned about this absolutely useless controversy, my disappointment was immesurable, and my day ruined...
As an outsider, seeing it all go down real time. I agree
@@Nativefall i wsih i there so i could eat popcorn and eat memes
*make memes
@@Nativefall personally i think sonic community forgot genshin is the biggest and most expensive game ever made, dozens of millions players, dozens of billions spent on the game and profit, the only competitor of it is star citizen which well....its never gona release, people tend to forget how big genshin is
If fortnite is the biggest battle royal for years . Genshin is the biggest gacha game for years
People of sonic was too close minded and think the population they have is the world when infact genshin is more worldwide. Dont live under a rock know your places
This entire thing was hillarious as hell tbh
Yeh I’m a huge sonic fan but i was amazing seeing how salty and upset the community got
Yup
Fr
I agree
A lot yeah and I didn't even care who won I was like "someone win"
Sonic frontiers at the start of this whole fued were indeed getting robbed, but as soon as botting came from both sides it was clear that neither should have win since both were harassing one another and just a mess. Still feel it was robbed
i am a sonic fan (i have the name da sonic and a pfp that is a clipped photo from sonic 3 and knuckles when sonic is snowboarding in ice cap) and how both the genshin and sonic fan base's acted was childish. i mean i bet the elden ring and god of war communities were having civilized arguments while we were sending death threats to eachother and using bots.
In a perfect world elden ring or God of war would have won. Then maybe both those fanbases would have learned their lesson.
Indeed.... Sonic toxic fanboys were literally robbed SF winning chance.
@@johnpett1955 how childish both the genshin and sonic fanbases were when the vote was still live makes me wish god of war or elden ring won
As a fan of both games I feel neither of them deserved to win tbh
This whole event has so many random memes and events going on its kinda hard to believe that this was an organized event
As a fan of both I totally agree Sonic should have won, but the way both fandoms acted was.. yikes.
Edit: guys pls chill in the replies jeez
Let's be honest, one reacted to on tweet, then the next thing you know, a war break loses.
If anything, GI reacted to the tweet first and then Sonic fans reacted to it second. worse of all, those two memes are pale compared to an image I've seen.
Even though the outcome is what it is, the whole point of the voting isn't to win a stupid reward [even though that would be a nice bonus] it's to send a message that they did a good job...and guess what? They acknowledge it.
I call that a win in my book.
But let's be honest, GI shouldn't partake in the GOTY awards at all. all they get from being nominated to the top five or any reward is primogems, call it as a reward all you want, but I don't think it's even worth it if you can get it by other means.
I mean, I've been apart of Sonic's fandom not as long as others but for some 14 years.. it unforuntately doesn't surprise me and tbh this barely even makes the top 10 of sonic dramas. The seedy fans get seedy AF.
But I've ALSO been apart of the more general "anime" community for ~10 years and how people overreact to that side is pretty dang close to sonic. Probably not quite as toxic overall simply because there's not often as close an identity in "anime" as there is "sonic". But still very much "ooh, I'm not touching this".
But both have been harassed for various reasons over the years so it's a shame they took that out on each other instead of using it to propel each other to a state where you can't just be bullied for liking cartoons, or antho characters, or big anime booba (not that genshin has much of that).
@@raze2012_ That's a thing about fandoms, they will sometimes overreact on a flip of the hat.
Genshin winning exposes how toxic the sonic fanbace realy is, plus the bugs in Sonic Frontiers are horrendous so yeah I'm glad genshin won.😋
@UCzCSQ81en-r4S9FlYnW6XZA i put that comment for a reason, sonic fans need to lern from there mistakes.
You literally explained how Genshin won the award in the middle of your video then proceeded to say they still cheated at the end……😓
Bias, I guess
He's biased, of course. there's a chance that sonic fandom used bots but he never mentioned that lol.
@@CelesNihility yeah everything these guys do is a freakin facade. JD Frank20 is worse.
He still can't accept sonic won't beat genshin botting or not lol. There's no bloody way 50 millions strong would lose to sonic smaller fanbase.
I mean.. he did say this was coming from the perspective of a Sonic fan, so the video is still biased in some areas. Such as calling the primos Genshin players got as a "win" for the Sonic community, even though though the entire video explained that Genshin only voted in response to the response to the Sonic community.
I think not enough Genshin players cared about the gaming awards in the first place, so Sonic had a chance of winning that award... that is, until they decided to shoot themselves in the foot and sent racial slurs to genshin's chinese community. Genshin won because Sonic fans hit the hornet's nest called "China", and no one holds a grudge like the chinese or japanese communities
Japan is more likely to keep things internal and just circulate the frustrations amongst themselves. China will respond.
Precisely, what started as Lumine slur (the Paimon meme did not generate enough hate) already made Lumine mains, which is a significant number already, to spite vote.
When the Sonic fans thrown out racists remarks, it united China, Japan, and SEA to say 'nope, you don't deserve it' and decided to vote.
As a 14 year old Sonic fan, I honestly don’t care that we didn’t get the GOTY. Getting the GOTY doesn’t mean anything; It doesn’t mean the game is a masterpiece or the best. It just means the game is popular and the people who play find it enjoyable. Both Geshin and Sonic are great games. I hope the Geshin fans have a great time watching the anime and playing their game, as much as I wish to Sonic fans who weren’t toxic. Thank you Genshin fans for teaching the toxic side of our fandom a lesson. But I didn’t think it was right for both communities to trash on each other. It’s rather disappointing to see the toxic half’s of both community’s being terrible to each other when we could’ve handled this differently. Maybe Geshin will win me over with the new anime releasing soon, well at least I hope so. But I did find it criminal that sonic frontiers wasn’t awarded the best soundtrack/OST.
Kratos: good mindset boy
SHUT UP!
GENSHIN IS TRASH
THIS IS WAR!
@@bluekn1210 What’s the point of having a war if they already got the award? Lol
@@yarc9 could you explain your opinion that’s all I wanted to know
@@yarc9 anything else can you explain why it’s generic?
Before people say that genshin has a bad ost you need to check out the orchestra ost made recently for the anniversary.
I think it has to actually be in the game to be counted, but it is really good
Well both Frontiers and Genshin have pretty good OSTs. It just depends on what you prefer to hear.
@@kingbash6466true
@@Splonton it is in the game. All in-game tracks are being release as albums. They have concerts too. And they're all copyright free.
I just love the fact that you can also play musical instrument in game. I love Ruu's Melody and I play it in-game or visit my friends' teapot that plays that OST as theme (I purposely avoid to continue Ruu's quest so I can't obtain his disc yet).
Frontiers was definitely robbed for the soundtrack category, not only does it slap but the OST album is literally 6 hours long lmao. At the end of the day, at least the reformed orthodox rabbi Bill Clinton won GOTY.
MINECRAFT DESERVES IT MORE
@@DamslettesSIMP wasnt made in the same year 👁👄👁
@@ReelSucks does that forbid Minecraft from winning the award?
@@DamslettesSIMPyes?
The salt was real in the sonic community and it was honestly glorious. I still think Sonic deserves an award for best music
It should have had that honestly
Generic orchestra game won sadly
@@sakuradabp6400 they rather wanted to hear "epic orchestra music" because "autenthic rich people" gets easily annoyed with awesome and stylish music and soundtrack but they called those loud and dumb, these awards people are worse than judges from American's got talent instead of just be pro gamers that can actually judge a game.
@@popothecat9760 I think this awards people are not the same who give their vote to the games, it's normally a group of critics which votes are more important than the audience. But yeah, they don't know about music becuase they chose GOWR over Xenoblade 3 and Metal 💀
@@sakuradabp6400 What game was it?
I would have loved for Sonic to win something just for the simple fact it had been ignored in all the other categories, it really deserved something (especially music!) and to loose to a game that didn’t even come out in 2022 is just sad…as much as it sucks I think due to the bot fiasco they should have just pulled both from the list and the award given to the next best game, that way it would have been a kick for both rather than Genshin winning when it was being just as problematic with the voting drama
Ooo, I can tell you game critics have had a DEEP hatred for Sonic (but not Mario). I'm sure this stems from the early generation of console wars in the 90s that's now evolved in the game critique bases for "Good" vs "Bad" game - with Sonic being the bad label
Even if the drama didn't happen, they still would've given it to Genshin and hide the votes.
Yeah I thought the same thing. Maybe if God of war or elden ring would have won, the genshin and sonic fanbase would have learned their lesson.
Sonic Frontiers needs to be banned from any awards. It doesn't deserve anything. It is a commercial flop to the point that Sega announced it is killing off the Sonic team.
@@ryuixyui lmao
@@ryuixyui It sold 2.5Million copies?
You missed some points where Sonic fans were also accused of botting and there was proof of it. In Round 2 Genshin was second because those players were voting with the intentions of being rewarded. In Round 3 that's when the Sonic Drama was spread over billibilli (Chinese media) in which they all voted in spite of Sonic. The Reward for a majority of Fans was like the cherry on top for them. All in All this Clown fight was Hilarious.
nah, very few or next to no one was voting to get the rewards, because in 2021 genshin gave out rewards even when they didn't win. and there were no announcement of the rewards before the voting, so most people didn't even know or care about the reward, it was the drama that reminded genshin players to vote. besides, the reward is not even that much to begin with
@@superpowerdragonas a player who started Genshin from day 1, i still remember exactly how much primo was given out for TGA each year.
2020, nominations only, no award. 800 primos
2021, nomination and winning the best mobile game, 1600 primos
2022, nominations and winning players Voice Award, 800 primos
You can clearly see winning Players Voice Award is basically 0 primos.
At the end of the day….who cares about a dumb award when sonic prime is so so close, fandoms fighting over this stuff when it doesnt matter is so silly
The concerning thing is how the vote steered towards which game has the least toxic fandom instead of which game is the best in general. So now you have toxicity in both Genshin and Sonic fandoms, other fandoms supporting the latter. Genshin wins after backlash that now affects the whole fandom (not just the toxic ones) and some of the supporting fandoms of the other nominated games. Now Genshin has several fandoms worth of people that aren't taking too kindly to the events. I understand the backlash, but now it's only made things worse.
Other reason: Genshin bribed us for free Primogems.
@@NirYuZy I heard it was a rumor from fans before and a common practice before that. The company itself decided to do so after they won without saying anything.
@@NirYuZy can't bribe us if we didn't even know the awards even existed. And it's common for gacha games to give out rewards when they reach milestones.
Those Sonic fans only have themselves to blame poking the bear since majority of GI didn't even know it existed.
@@ikram1572 they literally said they would give free primogems if they won wtf are you even talking about. That would give us info about the game awards.
@@NirYuZy That's the thing, they didn't say anything about an award let alone bribing us.
We got the Primos *AFTER* the awards, so it's not bribery. Whatever the fans say is just speculation.
Sonic fans were having a huge ego trip after receiving multiple W’s. Then decided to pick a fight against a game with huge fanbase and Internet has been shitting on it constantly just like Fortnite. They could’ve just being good sportsmanship or nice to each other.
Your fandom aren’t fucking saints either, you were Internet’s punching bag before they moved on to Minecraft, etc. Roblox developers deserves more slander for protecting predators than all Genshin players falsely called pedophiles. As many people said, Sonic could’ve won.
sonic would not have won. it's a popularity contest, genshin impact is indeed more popular and its available on mobile so more people play it, its also free. sonic would NOT have won, not by a longshot
@@dedosdeceniza Kinda disagree, but feel free to reply back. Their taunting pissed off CN playerbase (they’re fucking huge in a longshot). Most players barely give af voting for Genshin. If Sonic fans lowkey being dead silent and not angering Genshin community, they could’ve won Stealth 100
@@fr0ck360 can assure you its not true, genshin would have won the moment someone pointed out "WAIT. REMEMBER THEY GIVE US AN EXTRA 800 PRIMOGEMS FOR WINNING" and someone would eventually would have said it.
@@fr0ck360 can agree that the sonic fanbase accelerated the conflict. but genshin would have won eventually
@@dedosdeceniza I doubt Genshin players are aware of this vote until the harassment came
Man as a Genshin and Sonic fan, people don’t understand Genshin.
“Pay to play” nope. My dude. You can literally beat the game over on its side with the starting characters. Multiple people do it. I’ve played the game for 1 and a half years and haven’t paid anything.
Gosh I fricking hate prejudice. This is why people suck. Because people don’t actually try to understand. Sorry, just getting a bit ticked off.
You collect characters by paying and Progression, Sonic games has DLCS aka skins
@@ProjectNB but collecting characters is purely YOUR CHOICE in the game and is not NECESSARY to play the game.
“Pay to play” specifically means you have to pay to play the game.
None of Genshin’s gameplay is locked by a paywall. None of it. Only characters are.
You can do any story quest, any mini game, any exploration with no paywall.
@@ProjectNB you don't even need to use real money to get those characters. And we are getting this so called DLCs every 6 weeks
Apparently people are saying that during voting, CN servers for genshin had went offline thus making chinese genshin players bored which explains the massive influx in votes for genshin.
That sounds stupid, why would people go vote at something if the game's servers stop working?
@@sakuradabp6400 why not
@@ma.2089 Because is not related, lol
@@sakuradabp6400 No, servers being offline is why players in China were more likely to notice the rewards. For all the claims of bribery, Hoyoverse didn't even TELL the players a vote was taking place. I wouldn't even know about if not for some Sonic fans taking it way too far.
@@ma.2089 Because you do other things when your bored?
Gonna make a guess and say for SURE that game awards did this so they could be relevant over controversy.
Wouldn't surprise me but I also think it's pretty dang easy to just rile up those two fanbases. I think TGA just wrote off sonic under the whole "Sonic was never good" BS so it wasn't nominated anywhere except the place where there are barely 5 video game movies to nominate.
Still, I think we can all agree that Reformist Orthodox Rabbi Priest Bill Clinton stole the show and that seeing Geoff mald over that was amazing.
@@raze2012_ Really weird that he got arrested. Not an adult mind you, as the guy just did it for the lols. Really goes to show how some things are taken these days...
@raze2012 Your theory, at best, is completely insane. If you think Sonic being snubbed has a scheme to it, why don't look at every indie game over the years that's been screwed in this award show for years? Our voices will always be silenced by verified critics that'd much rather play bigger name IPs. As for the drama itself? At the end of the day, Sonic lost, and the community played themselves like fools to instigate harassment, botting, and then have the audacity to play the victim afterwards.
You forgot to mention Sonic fans also won with Morio Kishimoto taking notice of everyone rallying together for Sonic in the votes
If it wasn't for some people taking it too far, I wouldn't have known about the awards at all. I didn't even vote in phases 1 and 2. (Hoyoverse didn't even tell us about the vote! If they wanted to bribe us, they did a terrible job at it :P)
I don't know if Genshin "deserved" to win this popularity contest - honestly, I would have voted for Stray if it weren't for the drama - but the toxic fanboys fucked around and found out.
As for the rest of the Sonic fandom, I'm sorry you were caught up in this mess, and wish you the best of luck. Hopefully the movies and show turn out great :D
Yeahh this is exactly what I saw. I knew nothing about players voice till i was bored snd scrolled through the things trending in twitter and voted at the last round
I wasn’t even catch about the rewards either and I don’t really care about voting until the drama happen, the community didn’t care about the votes too
It completely started when sonic fans started shit talking the genshin community… on China’s mourning day
99% of the sonic community is just talking to each other or making mods and stuff, but due to human nature the negative side no matter how small will be seen and remembered more often, also I do remember genshin had slight bribery with those wishing crystals or whatever they are, I have never even touched genshin I can see why people like it but I just haven't played it and don't plan too
@@harvetwound1234 Yeah, it kinda is. Which is useful when you're in the wild avoiding predators, but not so much when judging fandoms. (and it doesn't help that the good part of fandoms is usually internalised - as you said, talking to each other and making mods - and it's the bad stuff like the Genshin anniversary that becomes more visible to the other fandoms and everyone else.
And honestly, while I like Genshin, I can't recommend it to people because of the gacha and some other monetization-caused elements (which, while mild by mobile game standards, are still not okay). So it's okay if you don't want to play it.
@@mousepotatoliteratureclub it does look interesting, i just havent installed it or played it yet
I love Sonic and Genshin, so I voted for both for the first couple rounds, then Frontiers alone for round 3 because I had a feeling Genshin was gonna snag the best mobile award again (the actual winner of that was a huge surprise).
Thanks for a fair coverage of the events!
Though I just wanna point out at 12:24 you say the game is "pay to play", which it is not.
I haven't spent a dime on the game since I started, and while it is admittedly rather difficult to earn the premium currency (Primogems), anyone can eventually save up enough to get a 5 star character or weapon. It just takes a lot of patience lol.
But the game does give you free 4 star characters for every type of element, and some of them are quite good in combat.
Besides, the gacha system is only a fraction of the entire game, and it's completely optional. There's a lot to like about the game, such as the story, characters, the music of the regions, the insanely deep lore that's spawned so many theory videos...etc
Honestly, I just want this drama to die down already. Move on, people.
Sonic Frontiers not winning a popularity contest doesn't change the fact we still got a good game, OK?
@@SyiepherzeSonic Frontiers is a broken game. The franchise needs to be buried. Sonic is dead. You can only milk so much. Sonic Frontiers is exactly Sonic Colours.
@@ryuixyui Honestly, just expect Sonic to be kicking around in the next 15 years. As long as Sonic keeps getting collaborations, comic deals, TV show deals, movie deals, spin-offs, I don’t think the franchise will ever truly die. Even it does, the fandom sure as hell won’t, with the sheer amount of fan content being made. The only thing I can imagine actually killing off Sonic is if people stop drawing him. It’s a fire that keeps getting fed. Even if it’s a dumpster fire, it’s still a heat source for the homeless to use on cold nights.
@@PokebellasWussy mothers basement has a good video in this! Like your analogy at the end lol.
@@ryuixyui it’s not broken lol get out
Ironically both fandoms were robbed in the end, and no I'm not talking about the 800 primogems. That reward was expected after previous years and the players knew already they'd get shit. You see players voice isn't where Sonic was robbed as that's a popularity contest so obviously the bigger playerbase will win. Sonic was truly robbed by not being nominated for music at all. Meanwhile Genshin was robbed of best mobile.
Oh come on, I think we can all agree that Clash Royale is the better mobile game
why was genshin even allowed on the game of the year players choice award anyway? its not a game from this year, that doesnt make sense.
@@dedosdeceniza because of the ongoing game category. Because of that category's very existence, older games can still be part of the game awards. If it wasn't Genshin, then its likely something like FF14 or fortnite would have been in players voice instead.
Since such games get regular updates, it means they're still relevant year after year.
@@5h0ckblock but it does not get the right to be nominated elsewhere then.
@@thediam0nddrag0n78 the virgin gensin impact vs the Chad clash royale
This is the most neutral video of the whole situation. People are saying only a "select few" from the Sonic fandom made the racist remarks. Those select few were the reason Sonic lost, plain and simple. Racism has no place in Gaming. Here's a couple of lines Sonic fans know very well:
*WHEN WILL YOU LEARN, YOUR ACTIONS HAVE **_C O N S E Q U E N C E S!?_*
Racism should about exist in gaming if should be able to call people splitlip
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As a lifelong Sonic fan ((I'm 32)), I was just happy to hear that Sonic even made it that far to get on the list.
Did you like how the fandom poked the hornets nest. They kept sending racist messages to Chinese people in particular as a fan of both sides I believe the fandom took it too far with the racism.
This was certainly... an experience.
For once the collective Sonic Fanbase ceased fighting itself and united to fight another force. While in some parts it no doubt went to far, it's still a surprising out come that there was finally one game the whole of the fan base rallied behind.
It's just a shame that being united only revealed how toxic the community could truly be. I've NEVER seen so much horribly racist rhetoric, on top of countless pictures crapping on the Genshin community and characters a like (like.. seriously, wtf was with those renders of Sonic beating up random Genshin characters???).
Same for genshin fans, every genshin fans from every coutries(especially China) was joined together to fight a common enemy. Even though Sonic fans used bots it wasn't enough, Genshin just have too many players
@@DLxxx the fact they would’ve won if they kept their mouth shut
Honestly, seeing how seemingly the majority of the Sonic fan base reacted I'm embarrassed to call myself a Sonic fan. Since Genshin Impact didn't come out this year it really shouldn't have been in the running, but that doesn't give anyone any right to start a war with another fan base.
It obviously didn’t matter, which year it was made, due to the temporary live service model. They will end the story of the game in 2025 as confirmed by devs.
Goes to show how rigged a award can be no matter how much you try to unrig it
Honestly, the whole drama could have never happen and they still could announce Genshin as the winner.
Then when everyone questions to see the votes, they could've just play "Genshin is just more popular than Sonic" card
@@TheLivelovelaugh165 in Chinese country I think?
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@@khalidsaeedali8756 Sonic just lost the spotlight but still popular. Genshin is still on the Hype Train. A single search on Google Trend in USA would tell it anyways
@@wuck2226 mainly because of Sumeru and wanderer a character that was revealed in like 1.1
Genshin impact fans were literally like "i don't care if genshin impact wins i just need sonic frontiers to lose"
Indeed. Most Genshin voters (including me) simply voted out of spite. It was not Genshin or Genshin fans' fault that Sonic lost, it was some Sonic fans' for trash talking Genshin players and even resorting to racism especially on reddit and twitter.
@Koto tbh it's kinda is the genshin fault sonic frontiers lost ime not saying we didn't provoke u to do it ime just saying to if genshin didn't exist we would've won but if the sonic fans didn't exist sonic still might loose ime not saying those racist fans didn't deserve it but u can't say they where the cause of you doing something but ye we where kinda toxic
@@theguywhoasked2597They weren’t fucking provoked, they literally started it. I’m getting sick of people saying this
I don’t care if Genshin wins or anything, is just care about what happened before
@@klein2042 any way, that's what happend when two chaotic fandoms face each others
I agree that the Sonic community took it way too far. I was upset when Sonic Frontiers didn't win anything for that matter, but this was the closest in years that Sonic won an award. So, I'm pretty satisfied now with what happened.
Why do they keep on crippling this poor hedgehog???
SEGA keeps on holding him back, then it was TGA holding Sonic back with the convinient glitches and 2020 mobile game with microtransactions and gambling, then it was poor management and bad staff treatment for the Speed Simulator, cant this franchise get a break?????
I know right.?!
what?
Agree and I'm a Og Sonic who was born in 2005
Sonic The Hedgehog the original for the genesis was my first Sonic game
I... how do you say this about a situation where SONIC FANS were the ones to shoot themselves in the foot? They attacked an entire community and the hubris got so out of control that it united another fandom against them. At the end of the day, Frontiers didn't deserve to win this category with a fnabase like _that_ backing it. Not that genshin was much better, but at the very least they didn't viciously attack the Sonic community for no reason.
The fact the toxic fans were calling Pword to the Genshin players was ridiculous, so what? Sonic is a Pword game too because it has Cream, Tails, Amy, Maria and Sage?
Doesn't makes any sense, Genshin only has like 6 child looking characters out of 60, sad to know they went with the easy slur to the Genshin fandom even tho I agree Genshin shouldn't have been there.
That's qiqi, nahida, dori, sayu, yao yao, diona and klee
Idk why they kept calling the p word to genshin players and they took it way too far with the racism against Chinese people and Asians
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj Sonic Fandom shooting themselves in the foot as usual
@@sakuradabp6400 yeah as usual calling genshin players pedos while they goon to r34 art of cream who is 6
A game that sold 100.000 copies at the time, vs a game that had 60 million active players at the time. How did they think this was going to end? Even if only one percent of Genshin players voted, that was still six times their whole number. Talk about waking a sleeping giant.
yeah it was pretty funny that genshin was underestimated
sonic would've won if they kept their mouth shut because everybody was already contented with the playstation awards reward
Genshin player: we won. What now?
I'm more astonished than disappointed that GENSHIN IMPACT, a 2020 game, won against 4 GAMES THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT IN 2022
Aren't we all but it was the better choice to teach the toxic side of the fanbase a lesson honestly
THEY SHOUDLVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED BECAUSE THEY ARENT 2022
@@mohabalserafe3795 They will not learn, and the ones that do will simply be replaced by a new generation of salt lords. Happens in every large community
I tried genshin impact it's not that fun it sucks
Among Us: 🙃
We honestly didn't care about the awards and we don't really mind if Sonic wins cuz we were busy about the new update. The madness only started when Sonic fans started bullying Genshin fandom and the most stupidest thing they did is to attack the CN PLAYERS LMAO. That's when Asian fandom started voting genshin out of spite or smth
I am a bit ashamed of the toxicity, as I did indeed participate in it. Not to an extreme length, but I was someone who was trying to get people to vote for Frontiers. And I do feel betrayed that people tried to bot for votes. I wanted Frontiers to win, but not through cheating.
But I still think Sonic should’ve beaten Genshin simply on the fact that Genshin was not released in 2022. Genshin shouldn’t have been incorporated to begin with. Should it have won overall? I don’t know, I haven’t played the other games.
Buddy, I doubt Sonic is the only community who'd do dumb things during an ego boost. Just next time, gotta remember to be mindful and call out toxicity or not get involved at all
Bro 90% of Genshin fans wouldn’t have gave a fuck about the awards XD
Too much salt makes your dumb
Eh, I wanted Stray to win but that’s just me.
When was Fortnite released AnonyBoiii?
Here's the thing. I agree that the Sonic fandom took shit way too far. It honestly disgusts me on what happened. But I still stick with Sonic for the fact that Genshin shouldn't have been in these awards in the first place.
like srsly, why is genshin still here in the awards FOR 2 YEARS? ITS A YEARLY AWARD FOR GAMES OF THE YEAR. Steam doesn't let people nominate games from past years on their awards, why does the game awards let Genshin of all games get in twice?
@@dedosdeceniza, exactly!!! It honestly pisses me off!! Plus the Genshin community had to cheat to even come close!!
@@dedosdecenizaBecause Genshin Impact is that good. It is an ongoing game and is better than anything Sega released. Hideo Kojima said it was his game of the year and that the current story arc inspired him to copy elements from it in a remake he was working on... Aka snake eater.
Also Genshin Impact is not free to play. It is so much better than Sonic Frontiers. The voice acting is awesome and the mini games are superior than anything Sonic has ever done.
People need to accept that Sonic has become a trash franchise. Genshin Impact is the greatest mobile game ever. It's release changed the landscape of mobile gaming, proving that a triple AAA game can be released in a mobile game. What has Sonic Frontiers proved? How bad the franchise is? Free DLC has nothing to a free story arc that inspired Hideo fucking Kojima.
@@ryuixyui *me looking at it for free on the google play store* uh bro the fuc you smoking?
I punched my wall and made a crack on it when Frontiers lost in OST, like WTF?????
Sonic is the Sound Track King! This is outrageous!
Minecraft soundtracks: ☕☕☕
Minecraft soundtracks are like coffee?
@@emmanueldavis1872 I didn't mean that but you're not wrong
Okay!
If you actually know, the Sumeru update was like the biggest reset/reboot in Genshin Impact, a lot of things changed, especially storywise and gameplaywise
Sonic Fandom just dug their own grave so yeah, they did deserve this award but after all the harassments thrown at genshin players, they don't deserve it
Remember when Among Us got and award in 2020 even though it came out in 2018
As a fan of both games
All I can say is
Everyone should just chill
They’re both just games
We should be happy that they were worthy enough to be nominated
Agreed
What a chad. I like seeing people with a mindset like this. Even Frontiers’ Director, Kishimoto is happy enough to see that Sonic Frontiers got nominated and it resided to players’ hearts.
It's so nice to see someone who is mature and reasonable about this whole thing.
yes
Yes same here but the sonic fans deserved it because you just started a war that you thought you winning it's 100k vs 60 million
As a Genshin fan who voted for Sonic cuz I’m also a Sonic fan, nobody deserved the win after the fighting that happened.
Finally! Someone said it! Thank you!
Yes but the sonic fans deserved it because you cant start a war that your not gonna win its a game that sold less thab 100k copies against a digital game with 60 million players its a losing battle if you chose to attack the fan base itslef. They would've won if they kepts their mouths shut
I don't really care for the game awards the only reason i watch them is for the Premier trailers. But for the first time i actually gave a shit about this situation. and it's honestly sad how fast things things went off the rails. At first people were voting for sonic because it was an actual good game. and to Prove Sega a point that this is clearly the direction we want sonic to go Moving forward if we got the game an award. But Twitter really let it get to their head on both sides. So it's just became about Beating Genshin. and Genshin Clapping back JUST to Beat Sonic.
The funniest thing about all this that Reddit of all places was the most civil about this whole Thing. People On both R/SonicTheHedgehog and R/Genshin Inpact were all buddy buddy Sharing Cool Fan art of Sonic with different Genshin Characters.
I voted for Genshin...
My reasons:
-I saw gore art about Sonic beating up Genshin
-too much force-voting in the Sonic Fandom
Because the Archons like Venti, Zhongli, Ei and Nahida are way more powerful than Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles.😅
began refreshing my notifications faster than shadow dio cancels a timestop
As a Genshin player, I didn't hear anything about Genshin winning or even being nominated in a category in TGA until I received a letter about it in a in-game mail.
Probably shows that Genshin players doesn't care about the awards to begin with
The glitch didn't just affect Sonic. For some reason even if you voted for genshin or others games you had to switch to a different game and vote again
the transition to chick hicks was legit the funniest thing
Mfw the game that sold 2 million copies lost to the game with 60 million active players in the popularity contest
Still can’t believe they didn’t added in music but on both sides how the fandoms acted, it’s just pure PEPECOPIUM..
Also
11:02 shit had me dying 😭😭
Better reasons to say why twitter is a horrible app
Can't wait for genshin impact to win in 2023 and 2024 🙃
edit: have to point out this is a joke cause I'm getting some ppl worried lol
😐
Zelda defeat genshin
Yeah no, delete your comment. If you still support it after 3/4 years you don't deserve getting girls or guys ☠️
Sonic community: *taking L after L after L*
Genshin community: *tearing each other apart in peace*
Sonic community: *gets one W* HAH OFCOURSE WE WOULD WIN JUST LOOK WHO WE ARE UP AGAINST A BUNCH OF LOSERS
Genshin community: *stop and about to tear the sonic community a new one*
Sonic community: EVEN IF THEY TRIED THEY CANT POSSIBLY WIN!
Genshin community: *tries and wins easily due to a significantly larger community size*
Sonic community: *suprised pikachu face*
tbh in my honest opinion if sonic was real he would not care for a popularity contest but would be very disappointed that people started harassing people
if it weren’t for the harassment from both sides, maybe fate would’ve been considerate.
The fact that Sonic Frontiers wasn't nominated for best Soundtrack was utterly criminal.
No it's justice.
I've been playing Genshin since 1.0
I was there to see just how quickly the fan base grew.
I've seen videos showing the highest grossing gacha games in 2021 and 2022. Genshin won both years. It was even 2nd place in 2020 despite it being out for only a few months...
Never knew about the fan vote for the game awards. Didn't even know that was a thing. Nobody was talking about it in the Genshin community... Until people started to complain that they were getting harassed by Sonic fans.
The first thing I thought was, "Uh oh, the poor fools poked a hornets nest..."
Oh WHOA, that glitch where i had to click on another game before sonic was clickable happened to me too! I thought I was going crazy since i was voting on my phone. Ah well, I cast my votes but im sure glad i wasnt on twitter for this whole thing loll Thanks for the recap!
I wonder if we'll ever get another wholesome community collab like Animal crossing x DOOM again.
Fadel's reaction to seeing Genshin win is hands down the best one lmao
lol amazing, honestly it was pretty epic seeing all sonic fans unite and its rare to see this much sonic fans around lol, truly a historic moment
Sonic fans botting the polls, but still lost was hilarious
I played Sonic Frontiers and also play Genshin.
I enjoy both games equally (which is to say, a lot).
I am disgusted by what both fandoms have done to try to utterly destroy each other, I am ashamed of both sides here.
I agree with this. I have been a long-time sonic fan since I was 8 and I am currently a HUGGGE fan of Genshin. I mostly like Genshin win because of the primo, but also didn’t care too much if it ends of losing a reward or not.
Ofcourse that shouldn’t excuse how both sides of the fandom behaved towards one another (even though I kind of expected. When it comes to huge fandoms like then, they’re always toxic and competitive). But I think there has to be some way the other games can reward players from voting them. I know that it shouldn’t really matter. But that’s what’s encouraging Genshin players to vote.
This video is very biased. Genshin players were all busy with new characters and new TCG minigame, and Mihoyo never asked or said anything about the vote (unlike Sega who asked their players to vote). Sonic fans on kept falsely claiming bad things about GI players and posted provocative fanarts on reddit and other social media during round 2. Most Genshin players didn't care about making GI win and voted out of spite.
Yep, also sonic fans were being too toxic on their OWN subreddit that modderators banned them from mentioning the awards, while genshin peeps was just enjoying their update.
I’m a Genshin fan and I even get called a pedo by my friends but those are obvious jokes sometimes people actually mean it don’t really care tho but when it comes to drama I sit back and eat some popcorn this game awards was the first time I struck back and I feel really bad now
Hearing this, I feel sonic frontiers amd genshin impact don't deserve to win
The fact that gensin was even there let alone won anything is stupid
I was so upset when this happened
This comes off as another toxic Sonic fan malding, but in a more restrained way. This makes me embarrassed to be also a Sonic fan at this point, this is not even a loud minority anymore, this is just a loud majority at this point.
I agree about sonic frontiers deserving at least a nomination for best OST but I am not completely surprised considering what happened to Neo The World Ends With You last year which also did not get a nomination despite the series being known for its soundtrack. It should also be noted that NIer Replicant Ver too many digits won this award despite it being a remastered soundtrack. (The remasters are great, but I still don't think it should have been considered for this reward.)
Dude genshin is not pay to play lmao, people who say that clearly have 0 idea about the game
As a Genshin fan myself, I honestly think Sonic Frontiers was a fucking banger, and it deserved some awards. It's a shame that the bots had to come in and screw it all up, all those genuinely respectful fans who voted for SF, their efforts were in vain.
But yknow what? It's still a huge win. After all, we now had a reason to be toxic to the toxic losers that called us derogatory names, and took it real personal. Equal comeuppance to such rudeness from your fandom.
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw yeah just only 1 like yeah? Too insecure about your opinion so that's why using an alt account to comment?
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw bro too salty even comment nonsens in my yt video LMAO. Using alt (pretty new) account to spamming others user
it's showed how "mature" you are. Grow up kiddo, have a valid critique next time.
Genshin has nice ost so I do believe that Genshin deserved that victory
So many bias on this "game is basically pay 2 play" bro you can play genshin for free and you can literally reach end game or catch up to the main story line even clear the hard contents without spending a dime on it.
Sonic fans threw the first punch, they just had to be racist against a country that has nothing to do for that day.
WOW 6:26 I can't believe it, it's my animation of sonic hitting the genshin, but crazy, but good video XD
I’ll say it.
I’m not surprised sonic lost.
This blue blur has been crippled by the sega team, sonic team, the fans at some point, and now this.
I’ve pretty much accepted the fact this guy will never have a big W without fumbling somehow
The only reason why I kinda Care is cuz well… genshin is not a 2022 game. It’s ongoing, yes, but it was not made this year
I’ve would have been fine with it if any other game won, hell I was expecting any other game besides sonic, but genshin? Wow.
It’s kinda funny though, sonic can’t have one big win. Poor dude
Will say I’m again not surprised but also disappointed on how everyone reacted.
I’ve been around the sonic fandom during the “oc cringe hate kill” faze, I’ve seen what fandoms can do…
*gets creepypasta fangirls flashbacks*
But yea, I don’t think it matters all that much anyways. Sonic got a good game, and while it didn’t win a reward, it did something that no one expected. Making the community collectively agree that the game is good, and that’s still a win in my book
Yo who made the sonic render in the thumbnail? It looks great.
I can’t believe sonic frontiers lost to a mobile game
This video is gold lol
tbh i think in the end they both got what they wanted. sonic fans got what they wanted with all the new frontiers content coming soon with a promise for better games, and genshin fans got their free primogems or something
5:37 Minecraft is also on this bracket since the game awards literally stated its for ongoing games. Also how the voting glitch wasn't exclusive to only Sonic votes but EVERY first vote. I've been to ER, GI, and GOW:R reddit threads and they all complained about the same thing.
As someone who played both (Mainly Genshin Before)
Sonic actually deserves the award way way more
i love sonic, but as Cuphead himself, MY SHOW DESERVED TO WIN THE BEST ADAPTATION!
As a genshin fan, i understand that this will be one of the most dramatic moments on the internet.
But at the end of the day, the numbers don't lie. And imma be honest i'm interested to try out sonic frontiers one day, it looks amazing.
And i'm not one of those crazy genshin fans who do crazy shit on twitter, i'm just an average player.
When i heard about the drama i just tend to ignore it cuz i don't wanna feel more depressed seeing the offensive racist comments from sonic fans.
All i can say is GG sonic fans. It was a long battle and a contiversial one too. But only one will win.
Oh you will love it! The combat, cyberspace, Super Sonic, and its banging soundtrack is just 🤌🏼
It’s worth a shot! Give it a whirl when it’s on sale on Steam or on Consoles. Real fans are happy enough to see the game got nominated, even the Frontiers’ Director, Kishimoto knows getting nominated is good enough for him. After all, it’s Sonic Team’s one way dream!
I've played it the movement is fluid but gets broken a lot like a lot I personally in my opinion subjective not fact but opinion genshin exploration is much more satisfying in my personal subjective non fact opinion
I also have to clarify that it's in my opinion because knowadays when you say one mildy good thing about genshin you'll die
I’m just religiously watching Native and randomly see a clip of myself 🤯😂 bless bro 💯🙏🏽
Player's voice is just a popularity contest for the most popular game of the year, whether or not it was released in 2022. There were other games like Fortnite or Apex Legends and even FFXIV and Minecraft that were released 10 years ago.
In terms of figures Sonic Frontiers sold more than 2.5 million copies and that's pretty solid for a 1 month old game but Genshin's number of monthly players is 65 million, so even with a huge fanbase like Sonic's it is really difficult to outnumber Genshin in a fan vote.
both sides cheated, we all said shit, i think we maybe should do the cat game next time.
I didn't take part in the war and said as long as Sonic wins something namely a nomination, I don't care if GI wins.
It is always people outside the genshin fandom or mfs who dont do dailies/quests/exploration that call genshin p2w. It's only p2w when your ideal for a win is getting every character and multiple copies of them and same for their signature weapons. Maybe I expected too much from you when I expected something not as painfully bias and ill-informed as this.
Just remember that SONIC FANS started this WAR. They went to far with their warcry 'Sonic Sweep' and drew very insulting images about Genshin and even resort to racism against Chinese. The Asians got mad as a whole, not only the Chinese were mad. Sonic Community are only comprised of several hundred thousands, ours comprised of 64 millions with multiple ethnicities and such. If you want to accuse of botting, both sides did it, and all of them were removed as said by the host, me and my friends IRL did not even want to participate in the voting but after the racism, unnecessary bullying and insults, we voted. From my end alone, there were 18 real life votes, not bots, real friends. So, everyone at Genshin is angry at Sonic fandom for their immature attitudes.
is it just me or does natives thumbnails of sonic look like sonic prime sonic?
That war was wild
The war continues
It would’ve meant so much to a lot of people, especially all the chaos. We went through back in the summer.