Turkey is the Wildcard of NATO
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Turkey is the best frenemy we have and here's why. President Erdogan has been accused of being a dictator within the NATO alliance. A 2016 coup attempt against his government tried. Russia and the Soviet Union have had a touchy relationship with Turkey for generations. Erdogan is trying to play both sides in this tricky tight rope walking act. Turkey wants to balance Russia and NATO requests. They want to be an impartial mediator but can they pull this off?
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Written by: Chris Cappy and Josh Simpson
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Edited by: Savvy Studios
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CORRECTION: Henry A caught a mistake I said "pakistan" is into the CSTO , I misspoke Tajikistan is in the CSTO not Pakistan!
Hey Spare Parts Army! I think Turkey is one of those "can't live with em' can't live without em' " relationships. They play an important part in the NATO alliance even if their choices are a little debatable sometimes.
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I dont understand why we did not kick them out of NATO when they blackmailed the alliance while a war was being raged in order to get the opposition out of Sweden and Finland. " terrorism" for wanting to be free.
You butchered all that names!Damn🤣🤣
Do something!
International Backstabbers! Cant be trusted….selfish and greedy
Throw them out!
Cappy, honestly f you. You can correctly pronounce Erdoğan dozens of times but can’t pronounce Atatürk correctly once. What are you, a secret Neo-Caliphate Islamist or something?
Can you really blame the Turks for hating America? The US has attempted at least 81 coups from 1946-2000. That’s 1.5 coups a year. Whenever America attempts a regime change of another country it’s called “freedom and democracy”, but when other countries attempt the same it’s “warmongering and tyranny”. Double standards and hypocrisy at its finest.
You’re absolutely right! USA and friends (capitalism lovers) are perfect and the other ones are terrorists, idiots, bad and don’t know human rights and democracy 😂 I can’t anymore 😂😂😂
Amerikadan nefret etmiyoruz Amerikan siyasetinden politikacılarindan nefret ediyoruz,orta doğuyu cehenneme çeviren her savaşın silah sağlayıcısi olan Amerikan politikalarindan nefret ediyoruz PKK YPG sdg ve diğer terör unsurlarına açık açık destek veren Amerika'n siyasetinden nefret ediyoruz ışıt belasını çıkartan sonrada Türkleri işit belasına destek olmakla suçlamaların dan nefret ediyoruz,oysaki işit Türk vatandaşlarını katletti benim şehrimde bomba patlattı ve ülkem gereğini yaptı işit belasını Suriye'de yok etti
Agreed.
Funny thing is the civilians are the ones that stopped the coup I was one of them literally stayed 3 days on the street together to make sure every soldier knew what they were fighting for and not against
Finally someone who gets it.
I think that NATO and the USA should criticize themselves on some issues. When Turkey shot down the Russian SU-24 plane in 2015, NATO and the USA left Turkey alone against Russia. While terrorist organizations were carrying out bombing actions in Turkey's cities that killed many civilians, Turkey again left alone. After these events, we cannot criticize the Turks because their trust in NATO and the USA has decreased because NATO and the USA caused this.
that's why Turkey is a wildcard... nobody are being "real" serious to Turkey but Turkey still have strong ties with NATO.
@@codenameeaglecooldown900who are you to say me what I have to do ..?? Who are you ?
No totally wrong people who tried the regime change in 2015 did that the president had no information about that
Beacuse it was in their interesst to do so. They are pushing for war against Russia for years and if it was with Turkey then all the better
Absolutely right!
6:49 you said "Turkey doubles oil imports from russia" but you did not said greeks literally smuggling russian oils in aegean sea. Nobody says anything about that.
Why every 🦃 videos inside have a greek comment
@@howmuchinturkey For showing how west or greeks are hypocrites. They villanize Turkey but they do the same.
@@howmuchinturkey because 🐟 are 🏳️🌈
This guy seems like some ill-informed propaganda machine. Don't think his done his research right.
"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal”
Henry Kissinger
“I helped plan coups in other countries.”
John Bolton
You think amerika is dangerios to much? Because of hiroshima and nagazaki? It was first and lost time. It wasnt bad ezperience. It was big shame but after it we didnt kill us as a millions again. Because nuckeear is destroying also your own self. Amerika is ideal person whit good look and beautiful outfits but no fucking character. Im not sad, after 50 years later china gonna be super power and we will see which one is the worst.
Thats why the most developed , richest , most free countries in the world are US allies 😂
@@nslqiro1037most depressed*
@@nslqiro1037you arent even top 10 in free countries
@@nslqiro1037If my nation plundered three different continents for 300 years long, we would be very rich and "free" too.
So Turkey tried to stop us from doing Iraq? And now Turkey wants to talk to Russia about resolving Ukraine? Sounds like they're a sensible partner, and we should be listening to them more, not treating them like a pariah.
Siz amerikalilarin sadece kendi çıkarları var ,o yüzden kimseyi dinlemiyorsunuz 🤘🤘🤘🐺🐺
Yes that is right bro. 👏
They are different the opposite with Russia they support Russia that’s the whole point of the video
You did Iraq and look at what happened there. Almost as if Turkey didn't want a unstable neighbour right outside their doorstep huh?
The US fcked Iraq, Iraq didn't deserve that
In the case for S-400, Turkey has been asking for their own Patriots for basically years and best they got was Patriots that were controlled by Germans, which were taken back to Germany in 2015 (considering the coup attempt the next year), this made Turkish government be wary of their air defence which their NATO allies seem to ignore. So Turkey went for alternatives which only S-400 was accepted. Erdoğan tried use this purchase to get Patriots, but it was denied again, so he went with the purchase.
I feel like he intentionally left out that part 'cos it didn't favor his narrative of Turkey being the wildcard in NATO
That's totally untrue; Turkey demanded a rock-bottom price and a technology transfer arrangement, in order to proceed with the purchase of the Patriot system when it was made available to them. Putin saw Erdogan's vulnerability and took advantage of it, by offering a very competitive price for the Russian system - obviously because he planned to undermine the unity of NATO by using Turkey.
@@zaynosman5162 well... I tried to bring light to it, if people would like to understand the other end of the deal, they can read from here and get some ideas
@@gildedphoenix Bro they are being willfully ignorant. Turkey should never apologize for looking after their interest after all every country looks after their interest.
So you are denying the purchase of the S-400 has ANYTHING to do with Turkey's sucking up to Russia? C'mon, Turkey is the only "civilized" country in the world right now where Russian tourists can spend their blood-soaked rubles, a currency whose value the Turkish government is upholding by continuing to buy Russian oil and refusing to enforce sanctions.
NATO's primary goal has always been to protect the Western world from Soviet/Russian aggression. Agree or disagree with that aim it is still the very purpose of NATO. Turkey seems to be using NATO for its own good, being loyal only when it suits them and turning to Russia whenever it can. I seriously think Turkey should consider leaving NATO since it clearly does not stand up for the fundamental tenets of the alliance.
Let Sweden and Finland join instead. We understand that NATO's true purpose is to stop Russia and defend Western values. We would not be unfaithful.
Whole video's theme is " Why don't Turkiye give everything U.S. wants and surrender to U.S. completely".
The Turkish are a strong people with strong wills, they are not servants to an agenda. Also you seem to have left out a key detail about the S400, for years Türkiye asked USA for Patriot missile systems but were constantly refused by their “allies” so they had no other choice. Not too mention NATO counterparts have constantly and repeatedly dismissed Turkish national security concerns in Syria and supported anti Turkish group. Don’t punch them in the face and then condemn them for raising their guard.
When he says wildcard he means the only independent nation in NATO.
Best accurate response so far ..nice one
@@unalunsal46 yeminle bu kadar güzel ingilizceyi nerden öğreniyorsunuz merak ediyorum. ben var amerikada yasamak, ama bom bk ingilizce bilmek.
NATO is supposed to protect each other, Not starting to think of self interest in every corner, That's exactly what you're enemies looking for / divide and conquer, Turks are abusing the kindness that is shown to them but when shit gets real, Don't expect good outcomes with such behavior towards allies.
@@itzikashemtov6045 meh!
@@itzikashemtov6045 Turks are dying from the terrorist attacks comes from organizations feed by Nato countries
Does Cappy pronounce things wrong and differently every time just to mess with us or is it unintentional?
I enjoy turning on subtitles, just to try and break the internet 😁
Gets the comments going. Algorithm spins
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Azerjaban ? 3:48
I hope this is on purpose :/
PS: Also president Aragorn ? Really ?
And Ataturk 🙂. He does sound very cute doing so..
He does better than I
İn Afganistan , all nato millitary groups use Turkish flag when they send their troops out from military bases.
For those questioning Turkey’s alliance, I’d like to remind them that Turkey was the fourth-largest military contributor to the Korean War upon the call of the United Nations.
While numbers are important, what you do with those numbers is much more significant.
In the Battle of Kunu-ri, Korea, UN Forces faced a sudden assault by six Chinese divisions. Instead of retreating, Turkish Brigade absorbed and halted the Chinese attack, thereby saving the U.S. 2nd Division and UN Forces from total annihilation. However, they themselves were surrounded by Chinese forces. Under this dire siege, they fought for three nights until they ran out of ammunition.
While it was believed that the Turkish Brigade had been annihilated, the Turkish soldiers, for whom the concept of ‘being taken prisoner’ does not exist in their war tradition, initiated the bloodiest bayonet charge of the entire Korean War.
The Turkish soldiers launched a bayonet charge to the south, engaging in fierce hand-to-hand combat, breaking through the encirclement. During these battles, the Turkish Brigade suffered 717 casualties.
Following these battles, the Commander of the UN Coalition Forces, General Douglas MacArthur, said, "the Turks are the hero of heroes. There is no impossibility for the Turkish Brigade."
President Harry Truman awarded the Turkish brigade with a Presidential Unit Citation for their valiant efforts in saving the U.S. 2nd Division from total annihilation.
The heroic struggle of the Turks at Kunu-ri against enemy forces that were far superior in numbers gave hope to the demoralized allied forces and became a turning point in the war.
Yes, perhaps a lot of time has passed since this war, but to see what kind of a friend Turkiye can be when necessary, one may need to look back further than just a few years.
This guy literally thinks that Turkey should really say yes to whatever NATO dictates on it :D
Turkey was right to be mad about the entire air defense system fiasco. Check out how many times they asked their allies to give them Patriot technologies, and they were in dire need of them too considering the geographical neighbors they have....
turkey basically gets used so they use their "allies" right back. Turkey got shafted on so many issues and doesn't get the same treatment as much of europe.
Quite simply it makes sense the people would become more jaded and vote someone more conservative in.
If they got treated better I bet the place would be a lot different.
@@resentfuldragon exactly. if you feel constantly excluded by your allies, you start to look for solutions elsewhere.
@@resentfuldragon why are you talking like you're not roaches? Who are you trying to fool?
Yes, your comment as Turkish is definitely
@@TomorrowWeLive fascist,opinion invalidated
When Türkiye makes a strategic move, all other countries can do is "cry" in defense. 😊
As a Turkish,
Being a border country in a region where world diplomacy never stops,
moreover, considering that our commercial and neighborly relations will be long-term,
Although we have turned our face to the western world, we have to play a subtle game of chess to maintain our independence.
Russia, Iraq, Syria etc. Although these countries are problematic neighbors, they are our valuable trade/market area.
As a third-party observer, I say let Turkey do Turkey things. I kinda like the Chad behaviour they have about solving problems, and they always seem to prefer peace over war. That can't be said for a few NATO countries.
Well said🙏
You are right. Turkey has always win-win strategy. Turkey is the salvation for this f*cking world. I am sure about that now.
Bravo 👏
they prefer peace over war? They invaded Syria a few years ago and are currently bombing Iraq, and Syria.
🇺🇸🇬🇧
Well Nato is not a democracy pact, it is a security pact
Democracy is a prerequisite for joining.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 Turkey Joined In 1952.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 well, spain joined Nato as a fascist country.
Now Ukraine is not a democratic country
@@neurofiedyamato8763 spain and portugal were fascist when they joined. Greece was fascist in the 70's.
You missed a crucial point in 08:00, Turkey lacks air defence systems and requested American Patriot systems REPEATEDLY from the US because Greece's hostlie weaponization is an open threat to Turkey, despite these requests, America ignored those and Turkey had to take a deal with Russia to close this gap in it's defence systems, not only that, other NATO members have s300s in their systems as well, which is also made by Russia.
And not to forget that USA kicked Turkey out from the F35 system which was directly supported and contributed by Turkey.
Patriot not needed. SİPER missile system made in TÜRKİYE
Amerikanın demokrasi tanımı.
(Daha önce CİA Başkanı ve dış işleri bakanlarının ifade ettiği gibi)
Bizim için diktatör bizimle beraber çalışmayanlar kendi halkının çıkarlarını koruyanlardır. Bizim için diktatör tanımı budur.
yani özgür bir ülke onlar için diktatör bir ülke. gerçekten niyetlerini böyle açıklıyor ya
I was studying in Istanbul, Turkey during the coup of 2016. I am not Turkish and not a supporter of Erdogan, just a foreign student. So what you and West media fail to state is that the coup didn't fail because of the militia on Erdogan's side, but because common people didn't want anyone intervene in Turkey's domestic affairs, so common people have actually stood against the militia that has organised the coup. When I asked them "why would you defend Erdogan if you all want him out", for which many replied "He will be out by our will, not by the will of some Americans sitting on the other side of ocean".
About kurds: Turkey had a problem with Kurdish minority long before Erdogan came, and actually the founding father Ataturk partially started that problem. Erdogan has actually achieved some kind of a peacefulness with them and as I know Kurdish people are one his biggest electorate.
I wish you guys were more concerned about your own country rather than trying to "install democracy" all over the globe
Ataturk reacted on the rebellions, he didn't started it. If it was anybody it was the brits.
Alright you said ataturk started this all and you are wrong. Ataturk GAVE HIS LIFE for turks. As turks i mean anatolian turks kurds armenians greeks anyone who is supporter of peace no matter what their origin is
@@ghost2130Main yeah, but they don't consider themselves turks and they are not turks ethnically. Instead of embracing them as a separate ethnicity but part of Turkey, he just started forcing turkishness into them which they logically resisted for simple reason of not being turks ethnically.
@@sandwarrior5579 please stop bullshitting around so much about a country that you most probably partied for over 6 months because of a simple erasmus project. there is no correlation between ataturk and forcing "turkishness". in fact, he is one of the few leaders who does not force any kind of ethnicity. what he stated is that literally anyone who is a citizen of turkey is equal in rights, and they are called the turks. now, there is a period here. when it comes to being called turk, please dont cry, little to none of the people here are original turks. there are 50+ minority groups who have been living in turkey, mostly in peace. therefore being called something all together would be the only desired common ground. so, the main aim behind ataturks approach is to get rid of the no-nation consciousness that was one of the cons about multicultural side of ottoman empire. back in the days, when you asked their nationality to a regular turk in ottoman empire, the most apparent answer would be "im muslim", and ataturk solved this problem. thanks.
Kurdish problem date backs to 1800s, nationalism:)
If you're not against Turkey or oppose Turkey, you'll get the most important ally ever.
USA is against us :)
That's nice comment. I agree with you friend.
US has a different definition of "ally". They want us to fight for them but they don't want to fight for us. In fact they want us to be weaker because they don't want to lose their power in the middle east. (because oil)
Here's a simple, clear and concise answer.
Understanding Turks is that simple. Turks do not go roundabout ways. It's a cultural construct. Straight folks. If you become his friend and trust him, and if you gain his trust, you will gain. But if you try to explain this by saying "for the good of the Turks" by scheming behind your back with historical prejudices, you will not be able to develop an alliance with the Turks. This remains cyclical and eventually the Turks chart a new course and seek a safer alliance. There is nothing to question in that either. We should leave the imperial perspectives and be our main context of respectable equality suitable for the NATION STATES era.
correct determination.. Turkey will never let its trusted partners down.. Turkey's direction is Europe and America.. but the prejudices there lead Turkey to other pursuits.
The Turkish maroon berets won the world special forces competition 4 years in a row beating the US delta force. During the Korean war the Turks had to look after the US troops who were not ready for the circumstances and fell ill and were scared for their lives while Turks were fighting like warriors. Turks defeated the British Armada and led to Churchill resigning, when it comes to war Turks do not loose.
it is an exaggration, yes our people might no be scared of war but if you look at our neighbors most of them are like that too. Ukrainians have fought much more wars than us recently and they fight to death also even their women are on the front lines this is not the case for us. Germany, Greece and other balkan countries are like this too they are that kind of people, the thing with us is that we sometimes fight for fun, or just to die in war because we believe (as many other cultures believe) that dying during battle is the highest honor, and also in our society the soldiers are like the best, I have not seen any Turk in my life who didnt love their soldiers. Being soldier is the best honor you can have and even criminal gangs have respect for soldiers. But the thing is we cannot win wars just with good soldiers, we need good leadership which we havent had since forever. We need good economy and education, we need people who can innovate or pioneer stuff. These things happen when smart people come together for the common good but not for themselves and when it comes to our leaders, they always think of themselves first. Even Hitler cared more about Germany than our leaders ever did for us.
@@yavuzabasiyanik1256 Çanakkale'de, kurtuluş savaşında cepheye mermi yiyecek giyecek taşıyan analarımızı unuttun mu? dünyada Türk kadını kadar cesaretli onurlusu yok. burada soytarılık yapma. Savunma sanayindeki gelişmeleri niye yazmıyorsun? Kol kırılır yen içinde kalır, sen burada kendi yöneticilerini sevmesende dışarıya o şekilde göstermeyeceksin. Bak videodaki lavuk reise zaten laf arasında giydirip durdu.
Mate, all due respect, the wisest way is to win without a fight.
What did you think? Did you expect to see a constantly passive passive country?
Turkey is a country that puts Turkey first. And to be honest, you can’t really blame them for that considering they’re stuck between NATO and Russia’s Alliances. Never been a big fan of their leadership but, love their people, their culture, and their dedication to our own putting their people and their people only first
Would you be saying that if you're a Greek?or living close to them?also what is their culture?
@@TheStormtrooper00 Nope. But that’s how life is. If it were the other way around you’d be fine with it as long as it benefitted you. And I’m sure you’ll take the moral high horse and say “It would be different if it were me we have morals” but in reality it wouldn’t be any different.
You like roaches? How does your house look?
Nazi Germany also put Germany first. Would you say the Nazi regime was admirable for doing that? Perhaps you should reconsider your criteria..
@@flailingelbows7073 It's easier being ignorant half a planet away from Turkey.But is not hard to see the damage they are doing to their allies and NATO,yet alone their enemies that are many.
When I visited Turkey, I saw that they don't just have soldiers, I think they have 400,000 internal armed guards, it made me feel that the Turks were not kidding. They are strong
Well you know what they say "Better visit Turkey before it visits you" 😂😂
.. Turkish army is one of the the strongest army in the world,,it is nummer 7 in de world..globalfire is a bullshit,,nummer 13 is not treu
@@LtOwl Turkey is a hospitable country, we always welcome your hospitality. :D :D
If you hold this beautiful and strategic land you got to be the strongest...
@@LtOwl 🤣🤣🤣
An interesting point about Turkey is that it is also generally regarded favorably by most Balkan nations. While there is a long, and I mean 500 year long history of conflict between the Turks and the region, today most nations in the Balkans consider Turkey a valuable partner. It even bridges the gap between everyones favorite European shitshow that is Serbia-Kosovo-Albania.
“Being a Turk is difficult because you are at war with the world. It's harder not to be a Turk, because you're fighting a Turk."
☝🏽😠🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Ocağa alındın minik kurt :)
@@CemalYILDIZ1989 😂🤣😈🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷 Aş bayrakları As 🇹🇷🤔🇹🇷
Lame
@@YourFailsafe boş yapma, devam et.
Being a democracy was never a real requirement for joining NATO, Portugal was a real dictatorship and is one of the founders, because of its strategic importance.
The embargo between members is also nothing new, Portugal suffered a major embargo from the USA during the war to defend territories in Africa, and at the same time USA sponsored some rebel groups.
You forget to explain the delicate balance of the situation between Greece and Turkey.
It wasn't.
But it became so with time. The great step was taken in 1991.
@@jmolofsson yes, but only 25 years later and Portugal was a dictatorship that maintained friendly relations with the west and have a historic military alliance with England.
Portugal had to be member because of the Azores ( Açores) islands. Salazar, the Portuguese dictator, played his cards well during world war 2, keeping Portugal out of the fighting but selling war materials to both sides - Tungsten most usefully to the German. The Azores sit in mid Atlantic at about the latitude of Washington DC and Lisbon. The allied D Day landings in Europe would have been even more hazardous with German U Boats lurking in the Azores, while on the other hand an allied airbase there would be very helpful to the allies. So Portugal was pressured to switch mid war to covertly backing the allies. Salazar actually had little choice, as the allies would very probably have invaded - violating Portuguese neutrality, if Salazar had not complied.
Anyway, this secret support for the allies late in the war made Portugal's value very clear. Current technology at the time made the Azores a useful base to NATO well into the 1950s, and probably later.
@@ianstobie ver well said.!!! 100% right
I'm American, our various administrations have really screwed things up for a number of countries with their political bs games. They created the Vietnam conflict, I had friends working over there just before the US got really involved. Iraq, Afghanistan, countless other conflicts, usually simply to mess with the Russians in proxy wars. A country's political affiliation or preference shouldn't necessarily exclude peaceful coexistence, and possibly commerce.
It should not be forgotten that not only did turkiye move away from nato, but also nato moved away from turkey. They divided Syria and Iraq for their imperialist games and formed anti-Turkey organizations. They also offered money to prevent Turkey's refugees from entering the European Union and they did not give that money. they have always supported greece and disregarded turkey 's rights . I am a centre-left Turk who does not support Erdogan, but I do not only find Erdogan guilty on certain issues.
Now that you have been able to observe the performance of the Russian military, do you consider Russia to be less of a threat and thus feel less of a need to be a part of NATO?
@@timtrewyn453 Russia is our number 1 supplier of oil, so we do not see Russia as an enemy, but the results may change in the future. There are efforts to provoke Turkey on the NATO issue, but Turkey plays both sides to avoid being affected like European countries. If we look at the Turks, the situation is the same whether we are in NATO or not.
@@KendinEfkarli Why wouldn't Iraq and Iran, as Islamic Republics, be preferred sources of oil for Turkey?
@@timtrewyn453 We also have supplies from there, but we can't focus much on the sabotage of terrorists as they have civil wars. Therefore, Russia remains the only alternative source.
@@KendinEfkarli I agree that Russia is probably Turkey's least cost option for oil. But Turkey could receive oil from the Middle East through the Suez Canal from many different oil producing, Islamic states. I thought Turkey was heading in a more Islamic direction, rather than empowering non-Islamic states. Of course, it is Turkey's choice. But the NATO countries also have choices. I see Turkey and NATO moving away from each other. Yes, I think it is mutual, not just Turkey, not just NATO.
Sevgili dostlarımız hep söylediğimiz bir şey var. Biraz abartı ve kendini beğenmişlik diyebilirsiniz ama gerçek tarafı çok güçlü. “Türk olmak zordur, çünkü bütün dünyayla savaşırsın. Ancak Türk olmamak daha zordur, çünkü Türk’le savaşırsın” 😊
If you alienate a strategically important country, there will always be other countries that want to get closer to it.
There are so many one-sided thoughts in this video! While our compatriots were dying in Cyprus in the 1960-70s, we saw how NATO prevented Turkey from helping them and put embargoes. With the emergence of the PKK after the coup in 1980, we lost 40,000 soldiers, civilians, teachers, doctors and officers because of the PKK. We still continue to give martyrs every day. During operations in the mountains in Turkey, Swedish-made anti-tank weapons are still seized in the hands of terrorists. It is clear that they are constantly giving weapons, money and survival gear to terrorists. America gave thousands of trucks of weapons to the terrorist group called YPG, the "extension of PKK", formed in northern Syria. After the embargoes, Turkey realized that it could not trust NATO, and then it stopped relying on military technologies that were not in its own hands. That's why he asked for access to the patriots' codes so that we can protect our airspace if the Greeks attack Turkey in the future. Finally, I would like to point out that I am an atheist and although I am disturbed by the Islamization, these events are Turkey's internal affairs. America has no right to interfere in this. America wants leaders who obey its wishes. They say that if their demands are listened to, Turkey is democratic, if not, it is not democratic. Your hypocrisy drives us crazy. They bombed the TBBM in the coup attempt made by Fettullah Gülen with the support of the USA. Parliament is our red line! If you approach Turkey as a friend and do not become hostile, you will not find a better friend than us, but you choose the difficult one. After all, we are not stupid either. We will not take pkk supporter states into nato.
as another Turkish person, I second this. Very well said!
Thank you. You made it very clear.
Until you allow the Kurdish people their freedom you will continue to die.
That's your choice! You can stop it at any time.
@@wilfdarr They don't want freedom they want Turkish lands. And we won't give. If you love them so much give garden of your house.
@@wilfdarrKurds are free. What are you talking about? It’s not like we are taking all Kurds hostages wtf. There are so many minorities in Turkey and we all live together. Claiming a separate land is the thing that is not peaceful here.
The Turks have a pretty strong martial reputation. I had a friend whose dad served in the rear areas during the Korean War. He talked about how different nations' troops would get in generally good-natured bar fights. He said no one would fight with the Turks because "They would come back and knife you in your sleep." Obviously an exaggeration, but it is true that the Turks can carry a grudge.
we really really can.
The sacred animal of the Turks is the gray wolf.We have a saying '' The wolf gets over the winter but he does not forget the frosty he encountered. '' Think about it ...
@@Datanalist well it does not means that we carry a grudge, it only means that if u done something which is not favor of turks then we will consider it when the times comes, and take the actions according to that
Türklerin dostluğu çok iyidir
Actually we dont fear Neither Russia, nor China, nor America ,we can fight every countries we have strong army and brave people.The Turkish army draws its strength from its character and honor, so we are not afraid of anyone.
Before the check the comments I was expecting some misunderstood comments about Turkey well mostly I was wrong and I am happy with that. Turkey has unique situation we are not sharing our borders with Switzerland or something. We have to act like this way. We experienced many terrorist attacks. Usually western countries do not helping us so we have to find our way thats it.
It's a simple, We know who we are and we know who are the enemies
I dont think turkey movement against finland joining nato was selfish, it was a good display of international diplomacy and protection of your interests, they supported turkey enemies before and sanction turkey,
now they need turkey help to avoid speaking russian, so turkey just told them "i hold the keys, what are you willing to pay for them"
Thats geopolitics at its finest right there
Also they could have been trying to leverage the situation to finally be given good aircraft like many other nato members.
They aren't provided for like other member so it seems it was an attempt to get what they want.
I doubt they actually didn't want finland to join.
Why are you Turks pretending not to be Turks?
@@TomorrowWeLive 😂 Lol
@@TomorrowWeLive ♿️
Türkiye YAZARKEN Türkiye (T) harfini büyük yazarsan minnettar olurum
Try At-a-Turk. This is how his Name is pronounced.As an Aussie we know him well because of his Brilliant defence against the Australian and New Zealand Armies attempted invasion in 1915.
We Greeks know also him well,but because of the attrocities he commited,especially against our population in Asia Minor.Ataturk is not a personality that should be held in high regard,he was responsible for genocides,attrocities and crimes against humanity.Literraly the original Hitler.
@@constantinebeleris6059 Ataturk defeated your invading forces with other invading forces on top with little equipment and weapons! What are you talking about ? You were the ones committing attrocities in Anatolia against Turks ! Stop your bullshit history revisionism.
@@constantinebeleris6059 They've taught you some fairytales in Greek schools it seems. Cause knowing the fact that he kicked Greek army's ass with a weaker army would only make it harder for yourselves.
@@constantinebeleris6059 you are told lies and propaganda at school since you guys lost both at anatolia and cyprus so go ahead and learn the facts not lies told by your bitter leaders.
@@constantinebeleris6059 I think in greek schools they only taught you the bad sides of what happened, you should listen to both sides before making an argument.
For your info; Greece has Russian S-300 as an NATO member.
Turks inspire confidence in friends and fear in enemies! They won't sell their friends, but they won't forgive those who betray them ! Turks are very well aware of who is friend and who is foe !
To me as a Mexican American observer, Turkey is just being a sovereign nation. Just because we don’t like the choices she makes doesn’t mean they’re not allies. Turkey is a valuable ally to NATO and I doubt she’ll have issues finding other allies like China or Russia. I feel like Turkey can even make allies of traditional allies like India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, etc. Very interesting game of chess that they’re playing.
Don't worry Harry with Russia and China we will end the white Christian yoke on your people. İt is time for independent separated states for black natives and Hispanica of North America carved out of the USA and Canada
Thank you for saying this. The west always uses media to turn people on a country that they are not content with. Everyone should know this by now. The west treats Turkey horribly; the US handing out weapons to terrorists and not giving Turkey the weapons that we paid millions for, other European countries always getting into our business at the slightest sign of anything when they can use it against us, always portraying Turkey in a bad light and trying to damage tourism or putting sanctions against us. Then they expect Turkey to be their loyal puppet. We've had our fair share of their hypocrisy and turkey is actually trying to become allies with other Turkic countries, Asia and Africa right now. We now know that the west will never accept us or want our own good.
Your BS rhetoric and hypocrisy is making him look good, keep up the BS he will most probably win the next election.
Thank you for your very correct comment
Exactly my thoughts . Turkey seeks what's best for turkey, not what's best for eu or america, and that's where everything clashes
Since the USA cannot hold Turkey in its hands, it prefers to send enemies from all over. There is only one thing he forgot, the Turks have been fighting for hundreds of years and they always have an active military potential, so they do not want it to develop militarily. He tried and succeeded to achieve this himself with the big military industrial steps he took in recent years in Turkey Sample ; Bayraktar...
Yes we wright the book of war ..
All allies have nuclear power plants, why didn't they help us with energy?
When Russia comes to Akkuyu, your voice is raised..
The Turkish nation shares everything with its friend, even a single bite, and fights with its enemy to the death. You do not scare the Turkish nation with an economic crisis or by killing them.
The funniest part of this video is accusing Turkiye of committing selfish diplomacy 🤣
I absolutely despise you for using terms like "kurdish militia" "kurdish groups" when describing pkk.
A terrorist organisation is a terrorist organisation and it should be addressed as such. Has it killed civilians? Yes. Then it's over. No arguing. No word plays. Haven't seen anyone call ISIS "militia" in US.
the pkk is against us kurds
Your state occupide Kurdistan, you are the terrorist , he is sayin the true !! Get out from Kurdistan it not your land , FREE KURDISTAN
We arent yours wildcard
You are our wildcard
We are Turkey you dont own us
You forgot two very important things, namely the shooting down of Russian planes in 2015. Turkey then asked for Patriot systems and received the answer that it could not get or buy them even though it is a NATO member. I think that one battery of Patriot rockets with a German crew came and was in southern Turkey for a short time without the control of the Turkish army. Then Turkey looks for a replacement and finds it in the S-400. Another thing is the 2016 coup. According to all claims, Erdogan was saved by a tip-off from Russian intelligence about his assassination, and this is where trust begins again on the Moscow-Ankara line.
I am impressed with the Turkish made weapons. They are very good. And Turkey is an important player in this war because it controls most of the coastline on the Black Sea, and it also controls the only exit and entrance to that sea. As well, Turkish President Erdogan seems to have some real confidence and courage as a wartime leader; something that Zelensky also has, in spades. And Turkey is rapidly becoming a major member of NATO because of this war, so Russia will not attack Turkey unless Russia wants to be destroyed by NATO. And finally, there is a long history of Ukrainian-Ottoman-Turkish relations, as well as trade, and immigration, with a large population of Moslem Crimean-Tartars present and fighting for their homes in Ukraine. So it is good that Turkey is on the right side. It is very good. So, from this guy in the USA - Glory to Ukraine.
Fun fact: Turkey is blocking Russian ships that are trying to bomb ukraine on bosphorus
Zelensky is a puppet. I am disappointed you compare Erdogan to him, although I don't like Erdogan.
@@pcprincipal345 Erdoğan is strong leader but corrapted (ı say this as a türk)
Our weapons are better than US weapons
This alliance will not be broken if you do not believe in the propaganda of the Greek and Armenian lobbies and are not prejudiced against us.
Awesome video! Would be fascinating to see the same topic redone in light of the recent events (the escalating Israel-Hamas conflict).
I have an inkling Turkey will have a role to play
Not the fucking “Mustahfa Kahmal ATARK” prononounciation im going insane omfg 1:51 (AND THEN HE SAID ATARAK OMG IM GONNA KMS)
It simply comes to Turkey own interest in the complicated region. NATO nations do not understand those and they are only understand their own interest. Turkey is a fine country after all. It can be open to criticism as well.
Very simply said.
The Turks (other than 5-10 percent fanatics, duh..) like to live in a peaceful country, like the Westerns examples. Turks have deep connections in Europe, literally millions of them live there. We also have internet you know. And people can see the difference between Western-like countries and Arab or Russian (Socialist) countries.
What do you think that rational people would chose? The Western-like style of course. It doesn't necessarily mean that we will be a copy cat as USA or UK or Germany. No one here is raised to become anti-West fighter to go suit up and fight to revive the glorious Ottoman Empire... No rational, normal person thinks like this.
Everybody know that the leaders are all corrupt motherfckers and secretly shaking hands under the tables. I just hope that this would not turn into another Iran where assuming tens of millions of people to be whatever you call Turks these days.
I hope the people of the West can learn to mind their own business and let nations alone for like a 5 minutes. But, I also know that living in a Western country you would never understand what I am trying to say. Because of course they will not openly say that we will fck them up with a lie (ahem, WMD in Iraq) to 'protect or nations interest' They will announce us killers, murderers, liars, etc to gain your support...
@@yigithan3713 great explanation brother ellerine sağlık
Well said bro thanks
@@yigithan3713 one thing I'd oppose, lets put another 20% percent of "idiots" on top of the 5-10 percent fanatics and round it up to 30% :)
Of course, Turkey is open to criticism. In fact, Turkey is a country that cares about what others say about it and takes it very seriously, even overdoing it on a sickly level. A people who, at the level of self-confidence, give too much importance to the advice of others about Turkey. This people's being a part of the WEST but not accepting the "WEST's disintegration" of the countries in its region and in the geographies where it has historical roots is seen as a set of problems and is considered as a "contradiction". It is shaped as supporting terrorism and arming it.When we do not accept this as a criticism, objections are developed against our country from the perspectives of "human rights" etc.
Anyone can criticize Turkey. It is also clear that we Turks need the West for some forms of criticism. Methodologically, it cannot be argued that we need external perspectives in order to acquire some methods and tools in our struggle with our own state. But this should not be an opportunity to turn our internal criticism mechanisms into advice for us to plunge into existential crises and surrender to the terrorist organization that uses weapons against us.
Nobody likes a friend who wants you to surrender to a terrorist organization. Such a thing is not to ask for Turkey's friendship, but to belittle it and make a fool of it.
I was in Turkey thirty years ago. The thing I really noticed was that there were soldiers everywhere, and they all looked really well turned out and fit. At 0600 on a bus you can look at the camps, and everyone doing PT and assault courses. They don't muck about, from what I could see.
We are a militaristic society soldiering is most sacred profession for our people
@@tezcanuyank3446 Omg, that would suck so bad!! I'm so very sorry to hear that, & I feel for you...big time. So, basically what you are saying is, that no one ever gets to relax & enjoy life on their own terms, has any kind of fun, gets to go on a nice calming, refreshing vacation, or go camping & waterskiing at the lake, or enjoy any kind of activities that are considered to most as being fun & relaxing? To me, it sounds as though everybody's just so serious & totally defensive all the time, 24/7/365. Have you ever considered possibly moving out of there & to somewhere NOT like that all the time??
Anyway, again, I'm sorry, but good luck...my thoughts & prayers are with you for sure 😕
@@hoosierdaddy4742 Is your brain broken? He just meant that a militaristic society makes sure that around 1% of the population is always willing to die protecting the home (The country). That's all.
@@hoosierdaddy4742 FYI the soldiers/generals/ etc etc they probably enjoy the best retirement compared to the average person.. They retire around 45/50/60 With shittons of money in their pockets. So how can you say they do not enjoy their life, whereas you commoners f*** work all your life up to 65/70's to only get a maigre retirement money..
@@hoosierdaddy4742 Life is not about hedonism, you have Western European mindset
Basically, the reason why Turkiye playing like this way is USA, France and Greece trying to divide Turkey into parts. Ask yourself that why USA too much intervene into Middle Asia.
You touched a lot of major points without knowing any background on them. State vs. Administration position is something really different. Low hanging fruit.
I'm a normal American guy living in Turkey, it's awesome here.
Which city bro ?
Welcome 🤸
@@nullx7 İstanbul
@@kilyos9212 how do you like it so far ?
@@kilyos9212 i also live in Istanbul man i hope you like the area
Everything is a show of force and influence. This is a really bad strategy (my daddy is a police officer and will get you 🤡).
Sweden suddenly wanted to join NATO (it is more complicated than this but I'm a Swede that don't want to spend all day typing).
Most countries that belong to NATO loved the situation because of our closeness to Kaliningrad and the Baltic states (we already have a treaty with Finland and the US). The Swedish military power was of minor importance.
There has lately been a change in the political leadership in Sweden. The rulers of yesterday did however manage (breaking the construction isn't uncommon here) to give citizenship to most of the people/terrorists that Turkey want sent back. If they are terrorists might be argued but the reality that the Socialdemocrats broke the law to make them "Swedes" is indisputable!
Sweden want to join NATO but did everything possible to make Turkey an enemy. We kick their balls and then say that we are friends.
Tebrik ederim güzel yorumunuz için. Biz Finlandiya yada İsveç düşman değiliz. Ancak neden bizim düşmanlarımızı destekliyorsunuz. Bundan dolayı halk natoya girmenize karşı. Örnek olarak Japonya Natoya girmek istese biz Japonyaya onay veririz. Çünkü düşman değiliz.
Bro, I congratulate you for these sincere comments. Whenever I tried to explain some Swedes this situation, they refused to believe our context or or point of view by saying "Sweden is one of the best democracies and there is no freedom of speech so us Turks are all deceived by government media agencies". But in reality, Sweden is harboring some terrorists that harmed Turkish people and we can not be allies while Sweden and Finland harboring these people and put an arms-embargo. But I am happy to see that new government understands Turkey's security concerns and take the necessary steps. Soon, we will let both countries to join .
Wow, I am really impressed with your comment that gives some credit why Turkey has done such a move !
Not that I am proud of what we are doing (being in the spotlight as the problematic member), I'd do the same if I was the president of Turkey (I dislike him very much...). Sorry, but the term "kick Turkey's balls" was exactly what Sweden and Finland did for a while. I couldn't explain the situation better.
Dear western folks, if you kick someone's balls and then go back and ask a favour from him, don't get annoyed or surprised when you have negative feedback... That does not happen if the person has some common sense...
Bravo👏👏👏👏
Thank you for stating the truth.
The subject of the video is Türkiye, but there is no Turkish translation in the subtitle. There is even Thai in CZcams automatic translations, but strangely, a language that ruled the world for 600 years is not among these translations. this is a shame for CZcams or worse it is afraid of the language.
US never reacted when Greece bought S300 a year before Turkey. Also, the US denied Turkey to buy Us Patriot system though later US offered to India which the Indians denied and they instead bought Russian S400. Turkey wanted to buy F35 which the US again denied. US foreign policy is made in Washington but finally approved by Israel.
Türkiye'den selamlar. zor bir coğrafyadayız. Etrafımız düşman dolu. Birde emperyalist sözde dostunuz görünen ülkelerin bizim düşmanlarımızı desteklediğini biliyoruz.O yüzden her zaman gözümüz açık ve tetikteyiz. yaşım 42. gerektiği yerde elimizden geldiğince ülkemizi ssvunuruz.
You created many enemies,turkish policies alienate most of the minorities,kurds greeks assyrians Armenians you persecuted them and then ask why countries hated you,except that your imperialist arrogance about regaining the ottoman empire lands,imperialism islamism and turkish ethicism(now too close to fascism) is the current turkish ideology
@@trashaccount8859 The Ottoman Empire did not harm any race. They did not treat the people badly in the lands they ruled. Turkey tries to get along with the countries on its border, but Greece is a pain in the ass. Our eastern border sucks. Besides, we don't have a problem with the Kurds. Most Kurds serve in the Turkish army. And most Kurds don't like the PKK
@@trashaccount8859 We have always had a problem with Armenians and this problem will not end. As for the problem with the Greeks, we have the right to take back the islands if they arm them according to the Lausanne and Paris treaties. Where does Greece find this courage? Syria issue, 10 million Syrians came to our country because of Assad attacks. We look at so many people because of Assad. Do you expect us to have good relations?
And, we dont have problem with Kurdish. We have problem with pkk. 20 milion Kurdish living Turkey and they are happy. They hate pkk
@@trashaccount8859 Turkiye has always been a lone wolf. We always had many enemies in this geography during thousands years. As it’s said above, this is a hard core geography we must protect our own interests.
@@ultrasadam3202 Really? Hmm. I support Turkey for their resolve not to be pushed around and being a sort of balance scale between degenerate west and retarded east. However, painting the Ottomans in pure positive light... that I can't support, simply because its not true. Be fair on this one... Thought history, from its rise in 1299AD all the way to 1913 and the end of WW1 they were in some for of war with European monarchies. And no I'm not Serbian, I'm Croatian. Yeah, they didn't have much impact in Croatia cause they weren't allowed to have... but they surely spilled innocent blood, and left an entire region destabilized to this day. I'm not a fan of Greeks , Serbs or Bulgarians for that matter but what I think doesn't matter. They wanted all the territories that were previously under Byzantium ... they even reached Poland in the 17th century. Please when you defend Turkey... defend it in an objective way. Its a key player that can tip balance of power to whichever side they decide to support or profit from, and yes I do support modern Turkey in that regard. No bootlicking of the west and bullshit from the east approach. But lets leave the Ottomans out if it.
To the point that Türkiye have S400s greece have also S300s and greece is also a member of Nato. I think it’s not a Problem
Friends, one day, try to love your alliance when your alliance provides weapons to the enemies that martyred your soldiers, this must be very difficult.
Good video about the situation of Turkiye but it is much more complex than we see here. Reasons to get closer to Russia is not only a choise but also a must not to stay alone because of the sanctions from many western countries for weapons, strategical air defence system... etc. USA prefered not to sell a patriot even not to sell a basic guns glock for Turkish police forces. So if we can not get support from our allies what could we do? Either we beg to Nato to send us temporal Patriots or we could buy it from other sellers. So I would like to say that this actual situation is not only in responsibility to Turkey or Turkish government but also our western allies . As a conclusion if western allies will continue to protect PKK (changing their name as JPK or PJK or any other name) and say they are Kurdish allies of USA , take out from western military projects (F-35) , not give strategic equipments ... etc. what can be the result. Result is Turkiye should find new allies. Please do not forget also that Turkic nations are in this area since thausands years even no one know a continent of America , Turkic people was one of the oldest folk in the world.
CSTO is Russia's failed NATO, and China's SCO is not really a military alliance as current enemies India and Pakistan are both part of it. (not to mention India and China's long running border conflicts)
Really ? How is NATO working out ? Doesn't Turkey allege CIA (USA) for orchestrating the coup ?
i never trusted turkey. or the “ottoman”.
Yeah but border conflicts aside, they aren't enemies nor have they made alliances to counter each other and compared to US and Russia, China and India has caused very few problems, the difference between thousand year old civilisations and a few hundred year old civilisations.
@@haruyanto8085 “thousand year civilisations and a few hundred year old civilisations”
Uhh the USA and India are the 2 youngest civilisations lmao
@@Aron-ru5zk Indian civilization has existed for thousands of years just because they only recently kicked out the oppressors doesn't mean that's the literal starting date of India.
You forgot one very important reason Turkey is crucial to NATO defense. Turkey is a fortress. The mountains and harsh weather in the eastern parts makes the country very defensible, and this difficult terrain goes all the way to the west coast. Even during the Cold War, the plan in case of a Cold War turned Hot was for Turkey to hold back the Soviets in this harsh terrain until US forces arrived in mass. This is still the case even today. If Turkey was not part of NATO or it was removed, it would inevitably have to FORCEFULLY join CSTO for defense. This would be a huge blow to NATO not only because of Turkish Armed Forces and Economy or Geography, but also because of what is beyond Turkey. The Balkans. Greece and Bulgaria. These two are barely strong countries and if Turkey was to join CSTO or at least not be a part of either alliance, the Balkans would become another Baltic for NATO, a soft underbelly where bigger NATO forces would have to deploy a lot of their own troops to defend Greece and Bulgaria, just like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.
Turkey needs NATO and NATO needs Turkey.
#TurkeyisNATO #WeAreNATO #StrongerTogether
Turkey is already one of the second largest land forces of NATO.
Yes looking from this perspective, what you have written is mainly all true.
Turkiye doesn't need NATO but NATO needs Turkiye. let's correct that.
@@fi4638 That is not correct, everything goes both ways, reciprocal. Mutual benefit is the answer. NATO is the most powerful military alliance in the world
@@tl771 No, belive or not belive. Türkiye no need NATO. NATO has double standards for Turks. Begening to today. If you look at the NATO operations, if Turkey doesn't exist in the operations NATO always in faulty. NATO, is enemy of Türkiye. But Türkiye is not enemy of NATO. you should understand that. Also, NATO already infected by Russia and China. If you look at the Türkiye NATO conflicts you can see NATO doesn't help Türkiye when Turkey having problem with Russia, China and terror. Ask to NATO members why they cheat about F35 and Patriots? Is the strong Turkiye as strong UK, France problem for NATO? NATO=USA and USA doesn't want stronger member then the USA in NATO. Today's Türkiye is stronger and more welcomed army in the Euroasia, Balkans, M.East, Asia,Africa. This is the NATO 's problem.
NATO members are full by batrayals.They help and create terir groups as Trump said so. Not me or Turks saying, Trump speachs, Blair's confessions, former soldiers telling us. So, Türkiye doesn't need batrayals.But batrayals needs enemy.
"exiled businessman" hahaha
as a Turk who don't support every act of the current government i have to say Turkey always has been one of the most important and strongest allies of NATO and we proud of it, we are happy about it. considering this i didn't like the thumbnail. thank you.
RESPECT TO TURKEY
REAL BRAVEHEART
🫡 only independent nato country
I read the comments and was surprised how many non-Turkish people have such objective and detailed information and I congratulate them. Turks are born soldiers and when we are counted like other NATO members, every Turk will undoubtedly defend NATO's borders.
Not every soldier is strong
@@yurichtube1162 Turkish army was founded 2000 years ago
@@kiligara3971 para=güç
@@erenerdemir7923 good morningggg Vietnammmmm :)
You should add... first war tactics were created by the Turks.
hi, you are making a video about turkey, there is no Turkish support in the translation and subtitle, it's a very funny incident 😂
"Ah-tark" AhTahRahk"
The main difference between all NATO countries and Türkiye; Türkiye's soldiers are the most experienced and skilled fighters of all the countries in NATO.
ATATÜRK proved in 1915 in Çanakkale that with poor skilled but modernly equipped armies are doomed to lose on the battlefield.
In all our compulsory lessons in primary and high school in Turkey, we are told very nationalistically about the invincibility of Atatürk and the Turkish soldier. Most people in Turkey are brought up nationalistic (I'm not debating whether this is right or wrong), but it's true that we come from a military tradition.
mkamal did nothing in çanakkale.. it is just a fairy tale to numb the modernists monkey part of the turkish society
@@youshallnotpass2499 You should come to Çanakkale and visit the museums. You can see the British and other warships there by looking under the water.
@@youshallnotpass2499 suscan aslan qudurma
@@youshallnotpass2499 you should learn some history. If he didn't disobey and lead the troops, Çanakkale'd fall.
As a secular Turkish nationalist, I approve Erdogan's strategy in the international stage.
Post 2016 Erdogan is way better than pre 2016 Erdogan.
@@betonkemalist5331 You think? Thats suprising to hear.
@@chewbacca3269 At least, he understood that the coup attempt comes from not Kemalists, but from the religious orders which are supported by USA. The westerners don't want a democratic Kemalist Turkey. They want to govern Turkey like a city of their own and religious leaders are good sources for their aims. The force behind the 2016 coup attempt were not Kemalists, they were Gulenists and Kemalists helped against the attempt. All the polical parties were against the attempt as well as most of the militaries. The civilian people were also against the coup. I'm not against religious people but I don't want a country to be ruled by any kind of dogma.
@@gulnursonmez9539 Well Kemalist built the country I would of course expect them to be for the independance and strength of the nation yeah.
The inflation rate does not agree with you...
As being a türk, i absolutely able to say that we never trust nato for our security, because our nato "allies" take every hostile action against us they can. The russo-ukrainian war shows us russia is no longer could be a threat for turkey, i think they also know that. We don't have any interest on nato anymore, so you'll do better if you create some interests about that.
You conviniently forgot that they argue that a large part of Greece, a NATO nation belongs to Turkey.
It's a video about an american crying why turkey doesn't bow infront of america
I'll bet most people would be surprised to know how long the Ottoman empire lasted and how recently it fell.
The British Empire was much larger and fell decades later. And your point is?
@@zix_zix_zix the answer is also a ove in his comment, he said "how long" the empire lasted
@@zix_zix_zix irrelevant, that doesn't add to the reminder put forth.
He was saying the ottoman empire is more recent than people remember. It fell around 10 years before my grandfather was born.
It was an empire that existed for most of us history.
The point is that its not some archaic old thing, thats why the turks are so obssesed with it.
If the brits began having problems with money and influence, the old british empire would start looking pretty good to them.
Those in strife look to the "good 'ol days".
@@resentfuldragon The OP's comment was irrelevant and your argument is simply flawed; many member states of NATO are associated in some way with an empire. All of them have witnessed a decline in economic power and influence.
The British Empire was infinitely more influential and wealthier than the Ottoman one. It also declined very recently. The empire's end caused a massive change in Britain's position in the world and Brits had to face financial and other challenges for many years. Yet, they never undermined NATO like Erdogan does almost daily; they never stablished a malevolent, hostile, authoritarian regime; and they never planned to resurrect their Empire by invading their former colonies.
"If the brits began having problems with money and influence ..." - dude, the Brits do have problems with money and influence. The Turks, on the other hand, have the best economy they ever had, despite their problems - which are self-inflicted by Erdogan anyway.
@@zix_zix_zix they didn't managed, they just colonized some countries and took their sources.
Selfish or Self Respect...
5:08 sounds familar
Dude the Turks fought in Korea. Their warrior class knows their value and have a proud history of being tough as nails. They sit confidently amid chaos and that’s because they’re smart.
haha, a lost war isn´t a good example.
@@13bathory1986 Korean war wasn't lost. It was overall a victory for UN side since North korea started the war and invaded south korea.
Turks go to Korea for marathon..
Their army's good, they have good technology but can't hold up to the great powers
@@13bathory1986 they fought, but they weren't part of war in a usual sense... Not like Vietnam or Afghanistan
I'm impressed by your in depth and honest analysis, well done. This must have taken a long time to prepare, I appreciate it.
Two points I'd like to add:
1- Turkey purchased the S-400 system after USA refused to sell Patriot systems (it wasn't approved by the senate or something) and more importantly after we shot down a russian war plane in Syria (possibly assuming it was a Syrian aircraft) which caused a major political crisis - that Turkey was able to solve through a 2 Billion $ purchase... It's far from an ideal solution, we can't integrate them to the rest of our NATO air defence system, but here we are...
2- Fettullah Gulen is not a "businessman" and the scope and modus operandi of his organisation is fascinating if you can find trustworthy resources on it. It certainly blew the minds of millions of Turkish citizens after the failed coup attempt. There's good reason why many people believe CIA is behind his operation.
Its crap reporting.
They miss out vital information like the coup instigators are Turkish NATO military, recruited by the west.
It was evident when the USA government and the rest of the west including Saudi Arabia were all for the coup then they flipped their stance when they found out a) he was alive and b) the people rose against the military coup on the streets.
Turkey is much more democratic than the USA.
You want to know the truth, look at past coups and who “USA” supported them, like all other military unrest of governments. Eg EGYPT.
Serves their interest.
Erdogan serves Turkish interests and its why they are desperate to get rid of him….but we love him.
@@samsari6783 Correction: %30 of Türkiye love him. But the rest is true.
@@samsari6783 Yeah as if Gulen and Erdogan were not friends back than. Gulen is a cult leader who was used by the CIA to spread democracy by creating a shadow government which they did not spread democracy btw.
Cant say that I love him, I dont like Atatürk either, but I support him.
@@CaptainKahra turkey need strong leader because so many conflict happen around their border nowadays...i dont see anyone that reliable for turkiye yet other than erdogan...he maybe autocratic but no doubt he is strong nationalist....i have seen him pick up turkey flag sticker on ground to avoid step on it on world leader summit...
Turkey is not an american puppet it's an independent countrie ,turkey has its own interest ,make its own decisions
18:55 NATO'S Blue blended with the sea
As a Turk, I don't understand why we have to agree with America on every event in the world.
A good friend speaks bitterly, we do not count as a friend those who shake their heads at everything.
If you don't agree with America, which I understand from the explanations here, it seems to mean that you are a dictator.
I think USA is an elephant in the glassware store.
I am not implying that we do not have an autocratic leader, but American policy gives all these tools.
Maybe everything would be better if there was no coup in Turkey supported by the USA or terrorists supported by the USA did not kill people in my country.
Because,proportion of citizens voting in Turkey is over ninety percent although not in America.
Erdogan cannot scare any ordinary Turkish citizen, just don't give him any more excuses.
Tebrik ediyorum Sadi bey,💪🇹🇷
If you hate America so much then leave our alliance and go run off to the Chinese. See how that works out for ya :)
Eminim şimdi telefon'un çalsa savcılığa davet etseler altını doldurursun🤣
Sen otokrat görmemişsin😂😂
@@salihm.i.3551 erdoğan otokrat. Kendi adamları bile ondan korkuyor. Daha geçen gün kendi partisinden bir belediye başkanı boktan bir nedenden dolayı istifa etti. 😅
@@salihm.i.3551 Beni tanıyorsun gibi gelmedin.
S400 purchase also came after Turks downed a Russian jet, and a Russian ambassador killed in Turkey. Also some of the NATO members blamed Turkey for it and said it is by its own against Russia if it starts a war with it.
So Turkey NATOs wild card, but NATO and the west is not exactly reliable either, there are lots of examples like this. For Turkey, trying to be neutral is not just an act, its a necessity.
NATO is nothing without Türkiye. Our military and regional power is indisputable. I don't know what our government will say, but if a referendum were held in my country today, a large percentage of them would say yes whether we leave NATO or not.better to join shanghai more serious
First of all, the USA is currently the world's greatest power. A power that can cause serious trouble for the world even on its own. So "NATO is nothing without Turkey" is just an exaggeration. Even the Turks themselves do not think this much. I've been going to Turkey for years. I have not yet seen a single person in favor of an alliance with Russia and China. Relationships of interest are different. Turks do not trust anyone. Turks see the USA, Russia and China as threats. In other words, Türkiye does not trust China at least as much as the USA. Relations with Russia are good for now. But it is not clear what will happen tomorrow. In short, what you wrote is entirely your personal opinion rather than that of the Turks.
Every Turkish generation knows the culprits of their suffering by heart. Countless wars of our ancestors and unending terrorism in our republic borders created the most hardened, and experienced soldiers in the world. Every Turkish man has to serve in military. Every man here knows the seriousness of violence because it never left our land.
When Turkey lost this 2 sided game, WW 3 starts. It protects balance through this way and you are very open to be provocated by just a 20-minute video :D
Turkiye and it s people is not a wild card..
They are trustworthy friend and ally of
all nations stand for good.
😂 the people aren't the problem your dictator is
@@musestarlight1 if you want to see a dictator, go to North Korea
USA is not trustworthy tho they are still helping funding traning terrorists in Syria and Iraq YPG-PYD-PKK organisation against us
I hate Erdoğan but ı support hım in diplomacy
He tells how us feel in National affairs
As a Turk I am not objective and frankly I don’t want to be. I might not always agree with Erdoğan’s politics however I certainly appreciate his stoic response to any foreigners. Our military history is very old and was always a crucial part of our national identity. We didn’t just happen to become NATO members but fought for it in the Korean War. Shed blood and tears. There is a famous saying in Türkiye” Turks have no friends other than Turks.” Very accurate statement if you spend some time outside of mainstream media and read up on our past. I am somewhat of a nationalist as many Turks and honestly take that as a badge of honor and not as something that I would ever try to disguise.
Turkish-USA relations are very deep and strong. Türkiye made the USA a superpower in the Middle East and Asia. The power that brought down the Soviets was Turkey, even though its closest ally, the USA, imposed an embargo on it under the influence of the Greek lobby. Turkey's power in the world is ten times the size and population of its country, and USA intelligence knows this best. If Turkish-American relations deteriorate, the USA will enter a process of collapse and disintegration, an outcome that neither state wants. Although the USA has made many strategic mistakes against the Turkish people in the last 120 years, the Turks have never betrayed this friendship. Didn't the USA appoint Erdoğan, whom it complained about today, to the presidency of Turkey? Didn't PKK, the bloodiest terrorist organization in the world, support PYD? Didn't he support Armenia, which occupied the lands of Azerbaijani Turks together with Russia? Doesn't he harbor Fetullah Gülen, who carried out a bloody July 15 coup, in his own country? Has Turkey ever betrayed the USA? Never?
Some backstory about Turkey's refusal and non-cooperation during the 2nd Gulf war (2003 Iraq invasion) - They blame Bush Sr.'s administration for a lot of the troubles with the Kurds they had during the 90s.
Kurds are a fairly large (~35 million) ethnic group that's live in a territory split between Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. They've been trying to create their own country for quite some time. None of the existing countries, quite expectedly, are very keen on this idea. The fact that the area is quite rich in gas and oil adds further pressure to the topic.
Anyway, apparently Bush Sr.'s administration had promised the Kurds that they would support an independent Kurdish state if they rise up against Saddam. The rebellion did not succeed. The heavy fighting and harsh measures taken by forces loyal to the Iraqi central government resulted in a refuge crisis. About a million fled to Turkey. On top of that there was a wave of bolstered Kurdish nationalism in the region. The more radical elements allegedly carried out terrorist attacks.
So, from Turkey's perspective the US proposal during the 2003 war sounded like - Hey fellas! The first Gulf war was fun, wasn't it! How about a new round?
(**My understanding of this topic is superficial. As with anything related to multi-ethnic conflicts there are conflicting accounts and murky politics. I'll appreciate if someone can give more detailed description.** )
That's true
Turkey has been violently suppressing the Kurds since the time of Atatürk, similar to how they've treated Armenians. Part of this is historically linked to France & Britain screwing the Kurds at the end of WWI, but there's definitely more plain ethnic hatred at the root of the situation.
Yeah Bush Sr. goaded the Shia Muslims in the south of Iraq to rise up also: after which they were promptly slaughtered by Saddam's helicopters we did next to nothing to stop before establishing the no-fly zones.
As an American, American duplicity in geopolitics truly bothers me.
This is true.. Kurds got autnomus area in ıraq next to Turkey after war.. Just what Turkey feared.. Now pkk(kurds) is using this area as a safe heaven and starting point to do terrorist act against Turkey..
@@Polo-rn8ly PKK used the North of Irak even before that. Even during Saddam's rain.
Pro tip: Wikipedia has audio files from the names of most famous people. You could also find Atatürk there.
Why bother?
No need.
@@Pavlos_Charalambous why not
Atatürk was loved by everyone even Putin visited his grave in Ankara years ago
@@Pavlos_Charalambous what kind of a name is Pulos anyway...
1:16 It is 2. Mehmed because it is not new version of Mehmed
"President Aragon".Man,who would not want that?
Huge respect to turkey for standing up against nato to get what they want
Wouldn't want to be them,when it's their turn to need something from NATO,or to be frank anyone lol.
@@TheStormtrooper00 in this world, you can never expect anything to be given. Look at the help ukraine is getting. They are paying for their mistakes of not being neutral
@@TheStormtrooper00 Don't worry. By comparison, we trust North Korea more than NATO.:)
@@muratcercil So,do us all a favour and leave NATO for DPRK.We treat Turkey like Iran anyways.
@@TheStormtrooper00 You know what they say, "Keep your enemy close". After the Russian jet we shot down, NATO played three monkeys. It was written down.
In simple English, this guy is saying "Turkey should not look-out for it's interest". There is also trust issues on both sides. Countries with failing economy and less developed than Turkey have joined the EU, simply bcz they are Christian nations. This is something some Turks would ignore
Like first balck american president obama, turkey must be first muslum country of european union, then see the power, it is the most freatening thing of russia
@@versuswars8101 sweden already in eu? First muslim nation hahahah
because we are not afraid of war.
Turkey understands their positions and uses it as leverage against whichever sides exist in any situation to get what they want.
Except China.. lol.. Turkey clearly can't help Uighurs
@@Etendard1708 :_(
😔
Turkey sent Uighur refugees back to China to be tortured and killed.
Turkey can boast but it clearly impotent against China.