How to install a basin waste
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2012
- Installing a basin waste can be difficult especially if you try to use the sealing washers that are supplied with the basin waste. Here we fit a pop up waste into a square vanity unit basin. Brought to you by www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/for...
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You're so right about them pop up wastes. After my third attempt failed with the supplied washer I was starting to lose the will to live. The embarrassing part is my customer was watching over me.
Superb channel by the way, much appreciate you sharing your know how.
Installed two new basins in my house. Made two attempts at installing both wastes with Everbuild trade silicone and the standard washers that come with the waste. Both times had leaks.
Went to B&Q bought two cone kits and Tool Station for a tube of plumbers gold.
No more leaks.
Most valuable £10.35 I've spent on this job.
Don't waste your time trying with other parts or silicone and do as this man says.
Wish I had watched this first. Thanks for the help.
+Chriss
It's crazy that the seals supplied with the wast fittings do not seal!
At least you got it sorted ;-)
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As you said to seal my basin waste was a migraine for me. I followed your instractions step by step and it was a SUCCESS!!!Thank you ever so much you are a wonderfull teacher.This is and extremly helpful video.
Glad it helped :-)
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had a leak with a new popup, did exactly as you said nipped down to b&q and bought the basin seal kit for £2working perfect now, no leaks, you've helped me with a few tricks doing jobsjust to say thanks for taking the time to do your videos handyman
I'm glad the videos have helped ;-)
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Thanks for posting this.
Just remodelled our En-suite using one of these wastes on the basin.
I assembled everything as per the manufacurer's instructions and woke up this morning to find a puddle downstairs. This was caused by the waste not sealing properly (just as you stated) and our nice new monoblok tap dripping slowly into the basin.
Getting one of those basin seals from B&Q today and will follow your instructions to fix the problem. Now - how to get my nice new tap to stop dripping.
thanks for great bit of advice!
and your warnings about aligning side exit holes (later withdrawn, because someone pointed out a relief in the basin) - well .... it is spot on as well.
My basin didn't have relief and knowing about this potential problem saved me a lot of grief!
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I'm glad the video helped.
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You pulled me out a hole with this mate. Had bother with a vanity basin waste and tried refitting etc to no avail. I've fitted literally hundreds of basins over the years but never had one this troublesome. Anyway, had a look on CZcams and yours was the first video on my search. Hallelujah!
Fitted it dry and all was good.
Cheers!
+Liam Mac I'm glad the video helped.Thanks for the comment ;-)
Hi guys, I'm trying to tighten up with those rubber seals, I'm finding very difficult as it moves the waste pipe together
Its been ten years since you uploaded this video, and I am glad I found it and followed your instructions, I couldn't get the rubber seal from B&Q, but Screwfix had them. Job done, once again thanks for your help.
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Double vanity sink install. Both popups leaking. Your video just saved me from screaming profanities out really loudly! Thankyou!!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Many Thanks. In your video, there are by far the best tips on fitting a a bathroom basin waste pop-up waste plug. The two great tips are the Plumbers Gold silicone plus the Basin Vanity bowl sealer. Great advice, brilliant thank you again. And a nice bloke too.
I'm glad the video helped
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Thanks for your response. I purchased the bits and fitted - it was incredibly awkward but - it's it and done. Just waiting for sealant to dry before i check! Big thanks for the reply and great video.
Thanks for the video. Finally managed to get mine in and sealed thanks to your advice
Thanks for the tips - after trying unsuccessfully to fix a leaking basin that had used the original sealing washers and lots of sealant, I bought the sealing kit from Screwfix (8795R) and now all is well. Getting the conical washer in place when the basin was already installed was a challenge, but with my wife leaning on the pop-up waste pipe from above and me wiggling the conical washer on from below, we managed in the end!
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Thanks for this. The kit at B&Q is currently £9.17 whereas the one at Screwfix is £2.39 😊
After fitting a new tap and waste and had it leak, I find and watched your excellent video, Purchase the Plumbsure washers and fitted those, the only problem I encountered was that with the thicker washers there was not enough room on the waste to fully tighten the P-trap, it waggled around slightly so the rubber washer didn't bed properly. So in the end I had the use a hacksaw and carefully cutting around the top of the threaded connector remove about 3mm I was able to get it fully tightened.
Thanks a lot, followed your instructions and used the b&q seal, pleased with the outcome. Keep up the vids, they're really useful
This is the second time I've come across your videos when I am stuck!
Could not get my Screwfix pop-up waste to stop leaking, so now I am off to get that kit from B&Q. Thanks again for your excellent videos
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aaaaaaaaaand it's now fixed :)
Well done ;-)
All you videos are a great help! Really well explained too, you should be on telly! Thanks for all the help.
Glad the videos help.
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Watched the video for a bit of guidance- went straight to toolstation and bought a basin seal kit (£1.29), applied plumbers gold as you did got it all over my hands , wiped it off and fitted seal kit job done no leaks,
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Nice clear instructions. I took delivery of my new basin and vanity unit and this is a 1st for me and wondered how to get a good seal when installing so thanks.
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I can tell you from experience. I've tried many times to get this method to work, but by the time you get the basin-mate on from underneath, the silicone bed will be ruined. Besides, that amount of silicone is going to be SERIOUSLY messy. If you must use silicone, fit the basin-mate almost all the way BEFORE applying any silicone, then apply the silicone into the gap between the basin and the waste before pushing the basin-mate all the way on and bedding the waste in.
Great advice very accurate points
thank you so much for posting this - very clear video and instructions - life saver. I tried to fit the same fitting to a leaking sink but the sink is attached to the wall - quite difficult to get to - will be buying water pump pliers and the plumbers gold and washers - thanks for the tips.
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Maybe I've just been lucky but manufacturers' sealing washers have always done the job for me. That said, I always thoroughly clean the ceramic surfaces with trade wipes to ensure a good seal with the washer and backnut. On occasion I have had to sand down rough spots on the underside of the basin outlet before cleaning with a wipe. Same applies to toilet cistern flush pipe seals.
Mate thank you so much! Went to fit this basin waste and leak leak leak.
Got the vanity washer and jobs is done! Many thanks!
I'm glad the video helped
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Thank you for the top tips, the cone washers worked first time, no leaks :-) happy days.
+Edge Effect You are welcome ;-)Thanks for the comment
One point is that not much point in going OTT with the top part as any tiny leak will go to drain. You may as well use the seals that come with the unit. It's the lower part where the problem is and getting those threads sealed. Your solution is good.
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Your video helped me solve this exact problem - thanks again for making and sharing these 👌👍
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Top Class. No Joy with Seals Supplied! Cone Basin Seal Solved
the Problem. Thanks for taking the time to Share.
George Campbell
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Thanks you are an absolute legend. Every diy job I do I find a video by you and it’s usually the best! Got the rubber seal as well and all done for £15! Easy job!
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Genius you've solved my problem. An afternoon's headache solved with a £2 product - thanks for the demo, problem solved!
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hi i was installing a bathroom suite for the first time. your videos have helped me so much. i could not seal my sink.had to take it out and do it again. even though i had tried it for leaks. i followed your guide went to baq and bought one of these, any one else looking for them you will find them in the plumbing accessories section. i also used plumbers mate on offer at the moment. i now have a leak free basin, thank mate. tony
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Thanks should have watched this before using plumbers mait and the washers which came with the waste (started leaking after 3 months) .... sealant and sealing kit all the way - worked a treat !
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Thanks for the advice. I did use the washers that came with the pop up waste and sure enough it leaked. I found it was because the water runs round the thread on the waste because nothing to stop it. Your solution seems much better as I guess the new deformable washer squeezes into the threads and forms a good seal. Cheers.
The supplied washers are often not fit for purpose.
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Super clear and useful. Thank you so much for sharing!
I had same problem unable to stop leak, my nephew tried for hours, found this video, a couple of quid later job done. thanks for posting here helped me big time
I'm glad the video helped.
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same here
Pure (Plumbers) Gold Video! Thank you so much for posting. Helped me no end to fix a leaking cloakroom basin. Cheers!
Glad it helped!
Really helpful video and have followed your advice and method exactly. Thank you!
I'm glad the video helped
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A plumber's son writes: thanks for this great video. The conical bung kit was the perfect solution to my leaking woes, although I have to confess, the hardened and split washer in the bottle trap, which I hadn't spotted, was a major leakage point! For £4, you can't go wrong with this. Not even a need for putty or silicone.
Glad it helped!
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Great video, fitted new vanity unit and sink. three attempts at fixing leak all to no avail, bought the recommended seal kit and cured leak. straight away. t
Awesome video,really helpful and informative thank you am trying this tomorrow.
Cheers pal. Followed this step by step and no leaks first time.
I’m glad you found the video useful
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I WANT TO SAY A MASSIVE THANKYOU FOR THIS VIDEO AND THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED IT.....
IVE JUST HAD A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE X3 TRYING TO DO THIS EXACT JOB...
THEN I SAW THIS, GOT THE EXACT BITS YOU SHOWED, AND NOW MY NIGHTMARE IS OVER..... THANKYOU VERY VERY MUCH 🙂🙂🙂
I'm glad the video helped
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I used the fittings supplied when l bought my basin and waste and it was leaking and totally hopeless and l wasted so much time . l have now followed your instructions and used plumbers gold and the basin mate and it is perfectly watertight . Thank you for the great video and advise.
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Thanks for the helpful video. I am having big problems making my basin connection watertight. Would the vanity fitting work for a normal basin as well? There is just a hole in the ceramic. I have Plumbers Mait but it is more like putty than your Plumbers Gold. The ceramic surface where the washer goes underneath looks a bit uneven.
Great video- is there any way to extend to waste neck since i know as soon as i add the vanity bowl sealer then i will not have enought thread to connect to the waste trap...??
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thank you I have given in for tonight ..{the thing I thought would be simple ] as been the hard part .I have had to re direct pipes from the downstairs loo sink .so I changed the waste as it was grotty .and I have had water leaking down the OUTSIDE of the thread ..now I know what to purchase I will have a rest tonight and go to the plumber in the morning and get the items that you suggest ..again thanks
Fantastic. Cheers for the video as this has been driving me mad
Thanks in advance for great tutorial....was cleaining the sink and realised the clik clack is broken so i will be replacing it tomorrow. Thank you
Good luck with it ;-)
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Chez, thanks for that tip about the use of the bottom seal. Fitting a basin and was just off for wall fixing ķit, will add that other part to my list.
bluwalker64
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Excellent, easy explanation and good knowledge, really helped
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Great Video. Had one installed (with a new bathroom) a year ago, and now it's stopped popping up/down. It either gets stuck down or won't stay down. I'm guessing it'll have to come out completely and replaced or can it be fixed somehow? Are there any known problems like this with click clack wastes?
Many thanks for your help. Much appreciated. I was ready to ring a plumber!...I bought the item from B & Q this afternoon and it worked first time. ..great little kit! I kept the original rubber washer for above the bowl but used the other bits below. I found it a bit awkward to stop the waste moving round and had to grip the collar hard as I tightened the backnut, to stop overflow inlet getting misaligned.
Cheers!
what is the name of the product? can find it on B&Q
The B&Q search is awful.
I've found it at Screwfix- www.screwfix.com/p/thomas-dudley-ltd-basin-waste-seal-kit-3-piece-set/8795r
Thanks. But is this the plug or the mechanism/spring you're refering to? I'm talking about the later. I don't thnk it unscrews at all. Not without breaking the seal etc!
Top man. Thanks for taking the time and making this video
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Hmm I'll wait for it to set as I've used the standard one. And then if it leaks I'll slot the doam on. It was so tight I had to cut it off . I've only re did it as just emptied the water when closed. It still went down the waste. I'm wondering if the bit you press down is making a good seal
Glad I’ve seen this video. I’ve been struggling for two days to get a seal on a vanity unit and now I know the answer!
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Thank you very much! After trying several different things this finally this solved my leaking sink!
+rexmedorum
I'm glad the video helped ;-)
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Hi UH!
I changed the rubber seal that's at the end of the waste pipe that goes in to the wall (it was leaking).
Now there's no leak, but some kind of air lock and the water drains very slowly...have you got any tips to correct this??
Thanks in advance for any help!
James
thanks for that..that worked a treat..but because of limited base how can I fit the basin waste to the waste pipe without a waste trap as I have no room under the basin, it is only an outside basin in the outhouse..cheers...
Nice tip with the cone washer chez , i have never used one of those as i always use plumber's mate around the top to bed the waste in and i use Dow Corning sanitary silicone on the underside to seal it , never had a leak yet , i know you like to use that plumbers gold sealant but the dow silicone is just as good and its antibacterial the same as the plumbers gold but it's about three quid a tube cheaper..... : )
+yensabi
Thanks, I'm not sure if silicone sealant has the same properties as plumbers gold. I must admit I like Dow Corning silicone though, it is normally very good.
That cone washer has saved my bacon a couple of times LOL.
I rarely use plumbers mait, but might give it a try next time ;-)
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Great video again mate thanks for posting 👍
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Thanks.
Since you are on line can I ask you what is the going daily rate to pay for hiring a bathroom Fitter with your experience?
I went to B&Q in Leyton and they didn't have it in stock so when I got home I checked online and I found it at their Tottenham branch. They don't use the Plumbsure description basin & vanity bowl sealer. They have it as Plumbsure Plastic & Rubber Basin Sealer for £2.02.
I am using the plumbers mate at both ends to seal it. Lets see if it works.
And thanks for the tip, as my first attempt leaked like it wasn't tight enough, but I couldn't get it any tighter.
This is the manufacturers fault for selling the wrong seals with the kit- it is obvious to everyone that the provided seals do not work!
I'm sure yours will seal now.
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@Ultimate Handyman, if the slot of the waste is higher than the overflow, (I. E. The slot of the basin waste covers up the bottom half of the overflow hole and the top half is clear for water to flow through) is this going to cause problems/leaks?
Had a leak from the overflow slot down the threads. Only thing that worked for me was Plumbers Mait. Top tip - keep it in the fridge overnight before using, it becomes easier to work with (less sticky).
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Thanks much for showing the direction of the slots should be directly towards the overflow hole
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I have just purchased a square basin my problem is with the trap, The Mcalpine S trap is it is not taking up the waste thread from the pop up waste. It is engaging from the waste pipe 40mm end of the waste pipe. Can you advise on the size that I should have to fit a 40mm waste pipe and also to take the pop-up waste.
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You saved my life thank you :)
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Just used the B and q kit and the under neath seal is a log bigger and not the same as in the video?
Thanks for the tip. Wish I had watched it before I fitted it the first time!
Mike Walker this is very common basin waste seal does the job
I just like to thank you for this video ,now I know what to do next time 😉
although why this has never been addressed by manufacturers I'll probably never no Cheers 😁
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Please accept my apology you have exposed my ignorance.
Thank you for your insights and immediate reply. Keep up the good work
Thanks 😊 as per others experience. The "bottom bung" is in valuable. The only way to make a good deal.
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Really good video with clear instruction.
I can't find plumbers gold where I live and I found bathroom and kitchen clear silicone with anti mold. Can I use that instead or what can I use as an alternative to Plumbers Gold? What is it anyway? Is it a sort of silicone?
Plumbers gold is a special kind of sealant designed for sealing plastic components etc.
You can use plumbers mait, which is a not setting putty that is often used when installing waste fittings to basins/sinks.
Thanks for this. Have been struggling with a new pop-up waste leaking no matter what I tried. Basin's been in and out more times than a vicar's willy in a brothel. These are available at both Screwfix and Toolstation (cheaper) with almost 100% 5 Star reviews. Why on earth don't the waste manufacturers just include one in the box and save everyone the hassle?!
I have a 1 and 3/4 inch basin waste hole, do I need a 1 and 1/4 inch waste or 1 and a half inch basin waste? They all seem to be one and a quarter inch.
Hi, very helpful video, but can you help me. Just had one of these fitted in my basin, three days ago. Wife was cleaning and polishing the basin this morning and caught the cloth in between the waste and basin and now it isn't closing. Can I fix it or will I have to get the plumber back next week. Thanks John
At last there is an engineering solution for a plumbing nightmare. The sealing washer kit ( £1.97 from B&Q) is all you need to ensure the waste won't leak and in my opinion you can forget about Plumbers Gold, Plumber's Mait , silicone sealant etc.
And there is no need to tighten the crap out of everything either, distorting any rubber seals. I made do with the supplied seals by sealing the thread using thick one-wrap PTFE tape. The supplied seal sealed against the basin, but failed to seal the actual thread. No silicone or putty.
What did you use to clean off the excess Plumbers Gold, please?
I have an ‘Instinct mushroom clicker spotted basin waste’. It has a rubber canonical washer, but looks like it’s supposed to be snug with the flange. Is that right? The canonical washer is upside down compared to what you used. I thought maybe it’s there so the metal doesn’t directly touch and damage the top side of the basin.
I've bought a pop up that said it was standard inch and a quarter. I can't seem to fid any pipes that will tighten up to it underneath (from the Crome pop up To the p bend. Am I missing something?
Please use Plumbers Mait ,do not use sealants as overtime it will start to leak.Also you have to wait for sealants to dry before using the basin, not so with the PM
another great vid
Think you've just saved my marriage after a number of attempts to avoid leaks. Wife bringing in fish and chips as a reward 👍
I'm glad the video helped
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You can also buy the same basin waste part from Toolstation Part No 37534 for £1.17
kendavies21 b
Thanks!
I have just broken the spring inside after trying to 'fix' the plug not popping up/down. Can I buy a replacement anywhere, I haven't a clue!!
Thank you, I will let you know how I get on
Thanks for this. Excellent.
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I've come across two of these rubber "Cone" fittings, Plumbase, is a harder rubber, B&Q a softer more flexible rubber, which one would you recommend I use.
+Qee Zee I try and avoid Plumbase as they normally charge extortionate prices to Joe Public. We have a branch in our town and if I need any plumbing bits I even drive to the next town!I know for certain that the B&Q one works well ;-)
Great video. Unfortunately you might find that some of the standard basin wastes are not long enough when using the excellent conical rubber seal - there is not enough projecting thread on the waste to connect the trap to. The only solution is to use an extra-long waste outlet and they are expensive at around £10. Even so, the conical rubber seal is the best solution.
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Is plumber's gold essential, or will sealant do the job?
Also, do you have a video for replacing the rod operated plug with a pop up without the luxury of being able to remove the basin?
Cheers.
I always use Plumbers Gold as it saves having to go back to it ever again!
Most sealants are not suitable for this job, although you could use plumbers mait.
Not replaced one in situ yet but will do it when I get chance.
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I wish had watched this yesterday! I have installed the sink with pop up waste and now it leeks!!!! I'm not quite sure what to do as the sink is in place! Can I undo backnut and waste and try to put other bits on!?
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The basin waste was purchased from Screwfix ( I think, it was three years ago ). They still sell them now Product Code: 41691
I hope this helps ;-)
Great video. I installed a new basin and pop up waste today, it didn't seal using the supplied washers. I followed your advice and it's totally watertight now.
I'm glad the video helped.
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Ultimate Handyman
maybe a daft question but on the black rubber do you have the bigger groves facing up or down? Mine is a butler waste and the rubber part is at the top but not sure what way round the rubber goes, one side has deeper groves and the other almost none. Many Thanks
I think the bigger groves face upwards, towards the basin- so that they create a seal.
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This might have worked for me but the extra thickness of the washer meant that even when I fully tightened the back nut, there were only two or three turns of the thread on the metal waste section protruding past the back nut. In the plastic connection you need a minimum 5 turns to bring the internal sealing washer into contact with the end of the metal waste casting. So I would have introduced an extra leak hazard.
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Were can you get the lower washer kit can't find the size as mine is 32mm
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Thanks for the info, I installed AQUAY FILTERS ® and its result is great!!
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What kind of silicone do you use to seal/glue the gap? I have all kind of silicone that i dont even know what their specific purpose are and i use it anyhow on any object lol
+Meiji Jap It was Plumbers Gold that I used for sealing the waste. It's specifically designed for applications like this ;-)Thanks for the comment
Will a 32mm diameter Cone basin washer fit a 38mm diameter waste ?
Hloo sir how you gave this threading on as pipe pls let me know
well done and thanks for the video.
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