Equipment overhead needed to provide sound for shows/events
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Please see below about the person in the red shirt at the beginning of this video.
A look at equipment overhead required to provide sound for an outdoor show. To setup and run a sound system onsite requires a lot of extra non-audio related gear; it's this non-audio related gear that is considered "overhead". This video covers the overhead we need for an outdoor show. Your needs may be different from ours.
Most of the overhead items we utilize are covered in the video.
Two larger items not included in the video are:
1. Spare mixing console
2. Spare FOH speakers in case of speaker failure
** The person wearing the red shirt in this video is Mr. Beckwith. He has appeared in many of our videos working with me (and others) as well as performing with his band (on many of the "mixing the band" series). He is the lead singer and guitarist of an excellent classic rock, soul and r&b danceband, called "theGroovynators" ( www.reverbnation.com/theGroov... ). You may need to copy&paste the link into your browser. On most all of the events we do, Mr. Beckwith lends his expertise, skills, and deep knowledge of sound systems to help with setup, soundcheck, and to run FOH/monitors at events.
Indoor shows usually do not require as much overhead as outdoor shows. The size of the sound system and complexity of the event can dictate the non-audio related equipment you may need for your event.
Music: www.bensound.com
👏✅ Missed this video until now, many times we carry more equipment/weight in non revenue items that the stuff the customer understands. Would love to see an updated video on this with any new items and or any things that you find un-necessary after many years. And Murphy always pays attencion to the one time you leave something behind cause you haven't need it on the last 20 jobs LOL Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.
Yes, Murphy is always waiting around the corner! Thanks for your comment!
Hello Bob, your videos are a blessing for me as I begin this new journey. Thank you so much.
You are very welcome!
You are like a User manuel on sound systems :) I appreciate...
Hey!! Another great nuts and bolts video. No nuts and bolts, no sound. No sound = No music!! Great timing as well, considering the times we are living in, where a lot of shows, depending on where you live, have to be outdoors. Thanks again, Carl
Thank you Carl!
Excellent video. I have been binge watching your videos recently and I am really enjoying them as there is so much helpful information in them. As you said in one of them, every day is a learning day! Thank you for taking the time to create this video, it is amazing how much ‘overhead’ you need to take.
Awesome, thank you!
Again, I understand 100 %. Every expence on consequential gear is justified. I try to prepare my show with no stone unturned. I noticed the different types of tapes you carry. I was licensed as a senior pyrotechnition in Canada. Some tapes you use are what we used to mark and secure piro wires. Your not going to believe this but a theatre troop from the New England States came up here for a production of "The Nutcracker" and thought they were going to use (120 Volt) on stage to set off pyro effects. I had to set them straight and set them up with s dc system that doesn't allow for electricution on stage. Again. Hats off to you. I know what it takes. Love these folks. Very Professional..
Thanks for the great comment!
Good video 👍
lovely and educational videos Bob, I want to know more about the Dbx Drive rack Pa 260 specifically the routing options
my mentor
Love your videos Bob, wondering if you could tell me where you got the cable runners from? Thanks!
Thanks for your comment. Those cable runners are just basic rubber floor mats (2' W x 4' L). I cut them down the middle to make them 1' W x 4' L. I got those from either Home Depot or Lowe's. Hope this helps.
Awesome video!!
Where can I get line array towers like those ?
They were manufactured by Penn-Elcom; however, they no longer make those. There may be other companies that make similar products. Thanks for your comment.
Great videos. Thank you for sharing them. Would you be willing to share a copy of your contract & volunteer agreement with us. I'm curious what you cover in them. Also what are the part numbers/model & manufacture for your towers that you use to fly your mains?
Thank you for your comment. Our contracts and volunteer agreement are proprietary for us. However, for a volunteer agreement, you may be able to find something like a template available for free off the internet. There may be some contracts for free off the internet, but you may may need to check with an attorney for their legal standing in your state/city where you live. The towers you referenced, were manufactured by Penn-Elcom (out of New Jersey), however, they no longer make them! I'm not sure if another company is making them.
hi guys love the video...what are the speaker lifts (arrays) made of...?????
Thank you. The lifts are made of steel.
Where can i see a design of them..
The manufacturer may have the design information. Contact Penn-Elcom.com
Info about them speaker towers ??
Those towers were manufactured by Penn-Elcom. They have a working load limit of 600 pounds. They can be taken apart for transport; one person can setup and tear down the towers.
can i run input separately on the dbx, meaning assigning channel 1 to run mid/highs and channel 2 to run bass
You can, but then you would not need the dbx. What are you trying to accomplish with running mid/highs on one input and bass on the other?
@@stageleftaudio I want to have separate volume control for mids/highs and for bass
@@Extremeadventuresandevents What do you need is a Graphic EQ ...
Do you use a direct box for instruments or do you mic the amps? Or is there another method?
It depends.... We try to use direct boxes (DI's) whenever possible; they usually provide the cleanest signal and it's one less "open mic" on the stage. The more "open mics" on stage equals less gain before feedback; which is not good. Many guitar amps have built-in DI devices or "line-out" connectors. Mic'ing the amps is needed if the amp does not have its own DI or line-out. However, mic'ing an amp can sometimes provide a much better sound quality than a DI. This is usually due to the stock speaker in the amp having been replaced with a better quality speaker.
What do you use for DI boxes?
In our sound system, we use EWI boxes (all active). However, most house systems we have mixed on carry the Radial brand (active and passive)
the reason for these is to be able run mid/highs on the left and bass on the right of the master mix fader or volume
Thanks for your comments. There's plenty of routing options inside the 260. It can be setup as a stereo 3-way (using both inputs and all 6 outputs), or as a mono setup using 1 input and 6 outputs.
Your description of what you are needing to setup may defeat the purpose of the 260. Looks like you are using your console as the crossover...? The 260 takes a full range range input single and will xover the frequencies as you need them, and route their output signals to whatever output you need. On your console, you will need to have a full-range signal sent to the 260, instead of mid/highs going to one side and the bass going to other side.
@@stageleftaudio Thank u Bob for your reply, I fully agree. my challenge is during dj sets where one song would be louder on the mid/high side and softer on the Bass side and vice versa. is there a way i can setup an automatic gain to compensate for the softer songs and avoid having to increase the output gain on the 260 all the time.
Thank you for the explanation! I recommend running full-range into the 260 and using the crossover (in the 260) to separate the bass with the mid/high. In the outputs of the 260, you can set limiters (and compression) on each channel to help control the dynamics. There would be more involved with controlling the output volume in the 260, so limiters (or compression) may be better. In the 260, there is automatic gain control, but it may not be configurable for what you are needing; it may be worth testing it out.
@@stageleftaudio Thank u very much, I will try it out and will let u know how it goes. I really appreciate your help
You're welcome!
What is the item that you grab at 1.06?
Those items are LED work lights. They are collapsible (the way you saw them in the video) and have a telescoping light. We use these to light up FOH and the stage during load-out at night.
Do you have/bring a stage power distribution box?
We have a 240V/50amp rack-mounted PDU we use for the larger events; it's mostly used to power the amp rack, however, it also powers the FOH console and if needed, a dedicated monitor console. For the actual power (for the larger shows), it is provided by a diesel generator procured by the venue and/or the organizers. For smaller shows, we use whatever 15/20 amp receptacles they have available.
@@stageleftaudio We've done a distro box once. Our larger outdoor shows are either large diesel generator (when utilizing the portable band shell) or house power at the local amphitheater.
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My band plays at a local farmers/flea market a couple of times during the summer. The sound company I work for brings a gasoline generator as the electrical outlets there are suspect at best. It's enough to run FOH, Monitors and backline. I'm told that we are the only act that brings a generator, but we're also the only act that brings 20,000 watts at FOH and 8,000 watts of monitor amps. But the sound is impressive, people enjoy it and we get invited back. As a musician, working with a professional sound company for shows, is the only way to go.
Sounds like you are in a great partnership. That is a lot of power for a farmers market event!! It's probably a good thing you have the generator; it would take a lot of on-site circuits to provide that much current.
For generators, diesel is the best way.
The floor runners; are those polyurethane or just rubber?
They are just rubber.
Ok. I appreciate it. Looking for something like it. :) 👍
They came from one of the "big box" stores (I don't recall which one). The runners were originally twice the width as what the video shows. I would cut 1 runner lengthwise to get 2 runners. I think the runners were originally 2' W x 4' L. What you see in the video are runners that are about 1' W x 4' L.
oh, the guy in the red shirt looks like overhead, but you don't need to advertise his weight :D
LOL - You struck again Mr. Beckwith!