Sound system setup using an A&H QU-16 for "beckwith" at a community event - Event Video 51
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Mixing "beckwith" at The Plant in Pittsboro, NC. using an Allen & Heath QU-16 console. For this event, the coverage for the crowd was not in front of the stage, but on the sides. RCF NX45A speakers for the tops, and a single 8004-AS speaker for the sub.
This video is an extended view into the setup, sound check, and performance of the "beckwith" band.
Thank you to "beckwith" for their assistance with setup and load-out!
"beckwith":
beckwithband.com/
The Plant:
www.theplantnc.com/
thanks, as always, for your support and being that invisible band member. we couldn't do it without you
👍✅Great show guys!
Thank you!
I really enjoy mixing for you guys! You all are very professional!
The heat shield on the canopy is a great idea.
The top of the canopy’s get crazy hot in the sun.
Keep up the great work.
I havent sat behind a console since 2009. Live sound was so much fun.
...as ALWAYS...GREAT JOB! I appreciate you and your talents! Keep up the GREAT work!
Thanks for your comment!
Great video! Highly informative! Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure!
Great set up. Love the videos. Looked pretty hot there. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
👍✅ Gotta wannabe pilot in the band, he's got the phonetic names down pat but doesn't remember the order of the alphabet 🤣 and he forgot "whiskey". Beating the rain on the load out is RARE. 😂Great video as always, tks.
Military and Emergency Services uses phonetics too.
@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup So do ships, ham operators, police etc Just making a generic joke. Didn't mean to offend or leave anyone out.
We use the SunQuest app to know exact location of the sun during the day. Helps with the outdoor shows
Great suggestion!
Beckwith sounded great! Excellent sound!
Many thanks!
Ty as always!>
Thanks for watching!
I think we would use at least 2 * 18" subs in Turkiye. Congratulations with 1 sub in the middle. Sounds nice.
Amazing sound, clarity is phenomenal, do you have any tips for mixing a bass drum that is sealed and not ported?
Thanks for your comment. The best way to handle a non-ported bass drum is to mic it on the peddle side. You will get the "slap" of the beater hitting the drum along with the low frequency of the drum. I normally mic bass drums (including ported) in this manner if there is room to place the mic. Just make sure the mic is pointed directly at the area where the beater strikes the drum. Mixing the bass drum becomes a lot easier with good mic placement.
Thank you for this reply, I have not tried it this way but at my upcoming event I will. Keep up the good work, biggest follower.
Just curious as to why you haven't set up the tops at either side of the stage as opposed to inside, resulting in some backwash from the tops and blocking band members? The QU is a great desk which I bought new in 2014 and only sold a couple of years ago as I had moved full time over to the QU-SB. I always used an iPad with the QU-16 inside or out as it was easier to see some of the gate/comp and EQ settings instead of looking at the small onboard screen.
Using an iPad is a must for going out and listening to the act from all areas where people will be watching from, just takes the guesswork out of it. Sounds good. :)
👍✅ I will take a shot at that from experience, the chance of rain during the show is probably the reason. You do not want to be moving speakers around in a rush in the rain during a show.
@@paratyshow, I concur, but based on the clip, are the speakers currently positioned under any cover? They don't appear to be, so if it rains, they could still get wet.
@@leeroysilk Looks to me like they are under the tent and away from the edges so a little blowing rain won't affect them but I could be wrong. Bet we will get a definitive answer real soon. LOL
Thanks for all the comments! Yes, the speakers are placed just under the tent in case of rain, which was originally forecasted to start about an hour before they were scheduled to end. And we most certainly did not want to be trying to move speakers in a rush during the show!
Has the Allen and heath mixer given you any problems? I don’t know about the QU but I’ve heard about fader problems with the avantis and dlive. Also freezing problems mid show
We've never had an any issues with the console. The faders have always functioned perfectly. I always promote the use of a voltage regulator on all computer equipment... digital consoles are computers and they can act strange if there is an issue with the power. Every event we've done, the consoles are connected to a voltage regulator. To date, no issues.
@@stageleftaudio thanks
awsome
can you share more on the heat shield under the canopy - what material, and are you just using clamps to attach? Thanks!
That "heat shield" is just a tarp. The tarp is black on one side and silver on the other. The silver side is facing up, which reflects the radiation away. I'm using basic plastic (cheap) clamps to attach the tarp to the top frame. I think I used 8 clamps to attach the tarp. The tent is 10ft x 10ft. The tarp is 10ft x 12ft.
@@stageleftaudio Great to know and thanks. And liked your planning ahead with tarps on the side for sun setting as well as selecting a console for readability based on daylight/night-time.
The QU is such a great console to graduate from Analog given the tactile controls - but if you want to drive from an iPad remotely, you can do that as well - plus the ability to do digital stage boxes...
Awesome video as always. I was wondering could you do a video on how to use the drive rack that you have in your rack case none of the videos explain it to well on ‘CZcams.
Thanks for your comment! We hope to have a video in the future covering the drive-rack 260.
Why not setup to the side so you can hear properly?
This was considered, but the main reason we did not setup on the side was due to lack of space needed for the FOH tent due to areas where the guests normally sit during these types of events.
Where do you get those stickers/labels for the road cases? Eg Allan and Heath?
The "SL" stickers are 2" vinyl; I don't recall where I got those (it was online). I ordered several sheets of "S" and "L" and put them together.
For the "Allen & Heath" black/white sticker, this is just a 3/4" (white on black) thermal label printed from a Dymo label maker.
All of the labels I use on my cases are low-cost (easily replaceable) solutions. It's cheaper to do this than pay for custom lettering/images. Much of the lettering on the cases gets torn up; it's easy to replace the damaged lettering with "over the counter" solutions.
@@stageleftaudio awesome, thank you for the reply. Love thr videos
How do you run the lines out from the console for one sub and two tops?
The main FOH output (one cable - left channel output) is run to the input of the sub. There's a "Y" splitter on the crossover-output of the sub... one side of splitter runs the FOH left top, and the other side runs the FOH right top.
@@stageleftaudio thank you and I enjoyed watch your videos
Do you measure SPL DB? What device? What level at that event?
We only use an SPL meter to ensure we are in compliance with noise regulations. Most venues/locations we provide services at do not have noise regulations. We do not use SPL measurements as a determining factor of our services. When we need to use a meter, we use a Galaxy Audio CM-130.
You use AUX fed sub on that 8004? What crossover?
I think he said the sub was feed from the main outs and used the sub's built-in crossover in the sub for the tops.
Yes, you are correct! The sub was fed direct from the console (no xover); we used the xover in the sub for the tops.
As well, we do not use AUX fed subs.
Thanks for the comments.
@@stageleftaudioI run Aux fed subs myself, through a DBX PA2. Especially for outdoor shows!
Move up to the Allen Heath SQ series. It will change your game.
The SQ series are very good.
@@stageleftaudio have one myself and love. Went from using an X32 to the SQ, no comparison.
A centre fill would be nice for you.
This was actually discussed while assessing the site. We were not too sure what to expect for a crowd. Looks like we may use a center-fill if they perform there again. Thanks for the comment.
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Why only one sub though? Should have at least 4 for an outdoor show!
The single sub for this event was more than enough!
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一看推子的位置就知道：技術不過硬，不好意思，實話實說
請記住，推子位置僅指該頻道的輸出。 當輸入增益設定正確時，推子可能會位於不同的位置。
@@stageleftaudio gain設定好 ，推子推到0dB時 如果聲音過大 ，可以採取trim功能 ，衰減數位信號 ，就可以把推子推到0dB 且不影響信噪比 ，這才是完美的增益架構 🤝
Bob, did you record the band with a SSD drive through ST3? How was the quality?
Yes, I did record the band (at their request), however, I used a (USB) HDD for the recording. After some testing (and research) with SSD devices, they do not work well (they work, but there's far too many errors with the recordings). The problem with SSD is there's no cache. Whereas, HDD devices have caching, which greatly helps with streaming inputs onto the device.
I tested various SSD devices with the console; all had excessive errors. SSD is convenient, but is not a good recording medium for the QU mixer.
The HDD I used in the video is a 1TB USB 2.0 drive (I bought in 2012). It has recorded several shows. The recording quality seems very good. Like any recording, the gain needs to be set appropriately. I gave the recordings to the band for them to do their own mix-down.
For contrast, the Presonus consoles I have all use 32G SD cards; they too produce great recordings, however, any caching taking place is managed by the console (not the recording medium).
Hope this helps!