Electric vs. Gasoline: Which Car Burns Easier When Crushed?
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2023
- "In this high-pressure video, we’ve outfitted 1/18 scale model cars with precise battery packs and fuel systems to replicate the real-world designs of electric vehicles like Tesla, along with traditional gasoline, hybrid, and gas-powered cars. Our objective? To conduct a formidable test with a 40-ton hydraulic press, simulating the kind of catastrophic structural collapse seen in severe car crashes.
We’re lining up electric, hybrid, gas, and gasoline models to see which one succumbs to the flames when things go awry. Which fuel source will lead to the worst inferno when crushed beyond recognition? Will there be a stark difference in how each model succumbs to the pressure? It might not be textbook science, but it's definitely a fascinating exploration into the durability and safety of these vehicles under extreme conditions.
Remember, replicating this test is not advised; it's dangerous, and battery and gas fumes are hazardous. Watch the controlled chaos unfold from the safety of your home and leave the crushing to us!
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This is just scale test and I have no idea how car fire scales in real life! All the cars were in such a bad condition after the crush that the fire is going to be your last worry anyways :D
If you are coming home from the grocery store, then as long as you get out of the car safely...........with the Pepsi-Max and the frozen Pizza, you will be fine. 😂
With hotter fires like in flammable metals, you don't just worry about the car, but also the road underneath.
Haven’t watched yet and I know the batteries in EV are definitely more dangerous! Fire departments have special protocols for EV’s
Shit I thought it was real cars! Got Me!!!😂
"...I have no idea how car fire scales in real life!"
Yet.
"if you survive the initial blast, it's over quite quickly"
"also if you don't, it's still over quite quickly"
His way with words has always been one of my favorite things about this channel lol
I creased up laughing when he said that... Perfect delivery.
I have a feeling that, if crushed by a giant boulder falling off a cliff, your car catching fire is no longer a concern you'll have to think about.
I will be sure to never park my car under a gigantic hydraulic press. Thanks for the public service announcement :P
You drive a Tesla? Right?
This channel is always so entertaining. The chemistry in the batteries makes a fair difference in the volatility.
I was thinking the same thing. Li-phosphate is much less reactive than Li-anything else.
@@kma3647 Why do I get the feeling that's not what is in most EVs/Hybrids?
@@FixingWithFriends It's what's in BYDs and several others, and there's lots of all those
Electric Vehicles are possibly a worse fire scenario then Internal Combustion Engines, only due to the oxidizer and fuel being internal to the battery, so it may be harder to extinguish. Magnesium engine fires are also interesting to extinguish, just because water breaks down to provide oxygen to the fire due to the intense temperature of burning magnesium.
Water works on all normal cars, but just search for Tesla burning under water... The whole car was in the water and it still was huge...
@@HQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQyou need chilled -23oC brine to put out electric fires. And only with direct application where it fills the entire car.
Thank you for this scientifical test - now I know to make sure I get out of my car before it is crushed.
If I remember correctly they crashed an electric car on that Grand Tour show on Amazon and fire fighters struggled to put it out. It was smouldering and reigniting for hours.
that's because you need a certain compound to fight it. Which to my knowledge even some FDs still don;t commonly have. Let alone high-rise buildings with underground parking.
@@bbb462cid It also wasn't a production car but a test vehicle, lacking many safety features.
@@TheBrucifer have you ever worked with or played with larger (say the size of a suitcase) li-ion batteries?
Richard Hammond crashing the Rimac. He recently got back into a Rimac for the first time since that accident. Not as spectacular as the jet dragster he crashed but yes, the Rimac took days to fully extinguish.
Yea the rimac, it also rolled downa hill for 110 meters
When I had a crash in my petrol car in real life, the starter battery caught fire. We managed to put the fire out before it got worse thankfully.
"If you survive the initial blast it is over quite quickly." 😂
I think what tends to make gasoline cars explode is the fact that sometimes the fuel tank isn't ruptured in an accident but, if something else is on fire, like the engine or the battery (since all cars have batteries), it causes a BLEVE (boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion) and those can become extremely dangerous without any warning unless you know what to look for.
Before watching the video, I anticipate that the battery fire will likely be more intense-hotter and with a longer burn duration. I own an EV and am not against them. Additionally, I've owned numerous gasoline-powered cars, so I'm not against them either. My philosophy is that you invest your money and accept the associated risks.
When Cowboy Car Crushing meets the Hydraulic Press Channel HPC 😁 ,even the choice of cars was perfect for what's usually at the scrapyard too
I've had a hybrid Toyota Camry since 2012, and it's the best car of the 9 cars I have ever owned, by far. Of course, I have neither crushed it, nor set it on fire. ;)
Who runs up to a car crash with a torch?
Congrats on the success of this channel. Love what you’re doing.
Thanks!
"and if you don't, it's also over quite quickly" lmfao🤣😂
So your gas power car was crushed and there is no fire, but then SOME RANDOM GUY RUNS UP WITH A BLOWTORCH AND IGNITES IT
Definitely a dick move
shhhhhh
Maybe you live in a warzone. ...or the USA.
Regarding Hybrid cars, i drive a Chevy Volt, and it has the best of both full electric and internal combustion. Charge at home overnight so i rarely use gas, saving on costs, but if i road trip or on super cold days it runs the engine and there isn't any problem.
The electric drive replaces the automatic transmission, keeping mechanical simplicity, and reliability.
The battery can be much smaller than a full electric, saving on cost and rare materials
How many miles on that car? Has it needed any major repairs yet? I have a Toyota Prius with 220k miles and it's been slowly losing features because parts inside the dash are getting old. I'm not completely done with the car yet since it still runs ok but looking around for my next one.
@@mugustabjeonklei2613 110k ish, nothing beyond regular maintenance but I have only had the car a year and 10k miles
Always loved these videos very stress relieving
The gasoline may have more energy in total, but all of the ingredients to release the energy are present in the battery, already mixed and ready to go. In the gas cars, one of the ingredients needed to release the energy from the gasoline--air--is not pre-mixed with the fuel. That means that until the fuel is released, evaporated and mixed into the air, it cannot burn; that limitation slows the burn rate and makes it far less energetic. Another difference is that these model cars don't have the electrical system that even a purely gas-powered car will have. Lead-acid batteries don't self-ignite like lithium batteries, but they _do_ provide a source of current that can produce sparks when cars collide, often long after the collision itself, meaning that the gasoline would be more likely to ignite in a real gas-powered car than in your models. So I'm going to say it's fair that you used a torch to light off the gas, since the car didn't have a way to make sparks for you.
Electric car fires are metal fires. Regular car fires are just normal and, occasionally, fuel fires. The later are MUCH easier to extinguish.
Surprised how explosive the battery one is! The gasoline one is pretty dangerous too if it can catch some sparks
I am also pretty sure that the modern catalysators are hot enough to ignite gasoline. They ignite easily brush fires if you park in wrong place
Chances of a gastank exploding after an accident is remote to none. EVs on the other hand are driving timebombs.
@@Kededian The gas cars don't burn on crashes often becouse the gas tank is well protected and so are also batteries so plenty of stuff to worry on the crash but fire isn't usually one of those. I would be more worried about combustion engine sliding into the passengers in bad crash.
@@Kededian Cars catching on fire are rare in general, but from what I can find EVs catch on fire at about 10x lower rate than gas cars
@@KededianDon't spread misinformation.
The Swedes are never going to forgive you for that Volvo.
Where did you find those cars? Interestingly mundane but realistic models, I'd like to check those out.
Also, video was very entertaining, as usual!
I also want to know, especially the Volvo!
Could be some other brand of course, but I know Bburago makes (made?) detailed 1:18 scale diecast model cars, ranging from the mundane to supercars.
Is there a possibility the liquid from the fluid (gasoline) was mixing the chemicals and actually keeping the battery from having an explosive reaction? Or, the crushing of the batteries still maintained a barrier because of the specific construction of those particular batteries? I’ve always wondered how we could get the most out of batteries whilst reducing their dangerous properties. I feel for the chemists trying to solve that.
The set up for this video is HILARIOUS!
next: full-scale tests!
Excellent science. Very educational :)
😂 that's great. Need to have more battery in the engine. Great testing!
No Lada?
I am not sure were those available :D I was so exited about the old Volvo that I had to have that as an older car :D
@@HydraulicPressChannel lol. Yes. I almost commented that in real life the Volvo would have broken the press! Here in America when I was a kid those Volvos we're heavily advertised as the safest and strongest cars in the world.
That’s the kind of out of the box ideas that the Hydraulic Press Channel needs moving forward. ➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️↗️↗️
Keep up the good work.🏆
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OMG! If a car gets crushed like that, would the driver be OK?
Frist thought was the move Tommy boy ...when he crashed the cars on the desk an then lit them in 🔥
Putting _out_ the flames is the bigger deal
I love your videos. ❤
Firefighters in the real world are saying that EV fires burn hotter, and for much longer, than gasoline cars.
You're comparing a Class B fire (oil) to a Class D fire (reactive metal). On the Aircraft carrier I was on the only effective method we had to combat a Class D fire was to push it off the deck into the ocean.
Didn't ignite? Let me help with that.
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After what happened in victoria the other day I can see why people can't get out. The scale of the fire even with these tiny models is insane
You see, gasoline is flammable, but the FUMES are combustable
This is a great channel!
Given how far back most gas tanks are, I don't think the exhaust would be able to reach the -flash point- _ignition temp_ of gasoline... I could be wrong though!
Flash point is the wrong value.
The flash point of gasoline is minus 43 C (that's minus 45 F)
The value you want is auto ignition temperature, which is 280 C (536 F)
@@dougaltolan3017 Oh, thank you!! ☺️
You are simply crazy! I love you!
How often do you have to replace the wiper seal on your hydraulic cylinder after being melted so much?
Haven't changed it even once :D
Nice! I manufacture & repair hydraulic cylinders for a living so I was just wondering. Have fun! Be safe!
Some Li battery formulations are pyrophoric (combust when exposed to atmospheric oxygen). Others are different and won't ignite when broken open.
i wonder if button type battery (you know for watches and other small devices) would be more accurate replica of cell applications, even tho obviously to scale thats still too huge even in smallest ones i saw.
Were the small batteries fully charged?
Haha. My thoughts on hybrids exactly echoed here.
i´m interested. do you guys do "normal" machining work also anymore or is it 100000% youtube only?
is it like 50/50 or 90/10 or 99/1 or 100/0?
separately the firm and lauri too.
i´m guessing the firm does quite a lot of machining but how about the percentage of income.
and then separately lauri. does he ONLY do youtube as of an income?
You use two differnt types of battery?
I was half expecting the 240 to break the hydraulic press... 😂
The Nokia 3310 of the classic car world (I talk from experience of owning both!)
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I'm glad you crushed that Mercedes for me. Such a deja vu, you don't believe it, my first car was exactly that 1985 model W124 with that exact same color paint. Miss that car. Glad it's in good hands now. ;)
I liked the Science at 4:15
Did you have that "gas tank" completely filled or left room for vapors to develop? Because the vapors are easier igniting than gasoline in its liquid form....
both cars look uncomfortable
Unrelated, does anyway want to buy my hybrid Kia Optima?
there are a few videos of EVs igniting pretty violently
have ever noticed the media don't even cover EV fires
@@rogerstlaurent8704Huh? EV fires are the only car fires the media covers. Literally every EV fire gets massive coverage.
I own a hybrid Toyota Avalon. Love the 40 MPG on it. Could fill up quick plus enjoy some benefits of EV
Big battery plus gas tank in intact car please.
Not the turbo brick Volvo! Oh the humanity!
Voiskohan siinä prässissä puristaa vaikka haulikon täysiä hylsyjä?
Never park your car under a hydraulic press!
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What's an ewee🤔
For science.
Next you should crush a well-designed public transport system not built around private vehicles
As someone whoms only light in life is the fuel lamp, I dont have to worry to burn in my car 😂
The additional 'help' made the test quite useless.
Stop electric. Go diesel 😄
Diesel will catch on fire just like petrol, that is why there are so many diesel cars, buses and trucks on fire.
@@evelynanderson7955 It usually burns longer. doesn't it? More like lamp oil.
How about a TNT-powered car?
Me watching this: :)) this is cool
Can i have permission to use your clips for my facts channel-
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The question here is , is it smart to use water on a lithium battery fire?
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The biggest difference between the two is gas needs an ignition source to catch fire, while all you need for lithium batteries to catch fire is air. Gas can also be easily washed away, rendering the car safe, while batteries need to be completely immersed to not continuously reignite. Plus you have certain companies that completely ignored safety standards and made it so you either could not open rear doors without electricity or had to disassemble the door to pull a hidden release lever in order to get out of the back seat in an emergency.
If you're ever in a car accident and you're lucky enough that your car DOESN'T catch on fire, beware of crazy Finns with blowtorches that will come by and set it aflame. :-)
105 people are married to their Tesla
what does liintapulkka mean or howevver it's spelled?
Linttapulkka is hard to translate. It kind of means a sled that slides. Its just a big backwheel drive car that is fun to drive espesially at wintertimes.
I'm from Sweden so I know exactly what you mean now :D Thx@@spertti
"Experience" not "Experiment" :D
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You ever thought about pressing your own coins just saying come up with your own metal mix an make a diy whit your face or what ever just saying...👍👍👍
Gasoline doesn’t ignite in car crashes as much as people think
How about round 2 with a deisel car? Has a lower flash point so should be the safest... Edit: I ment to say higher
That would burn even more.
Sorry...I meant to say higher 🤪😆
Note to self. Never be in a fully fuelled car that's being crushed. Make sure all the fuel is removed first!
Note no. 2: make sure to be outside the car before it is crushed. 🤔
So battery plus gasoline is the worst combination lol
Yeah, the environment is just fine. Screw the electric cars.
Hino Truck made Hybrid Before toyota
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My answer - diesel. 🤣