Mary Harrington in the Cyborg Theocracy Part One: Standing Reserve
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2023
- I sit down with Mary Harrington to talk about the Cyborg Theocracy.
PART TWO can now be viewed here - www.michaelnayna.com/p/mary-h...
Accompanying written piece for part one here - www.michaelnayna.com/p/mary-h...
I'm attempting to build a fully independent model for my films to circumvent the established industry. I want to leverage my solo production set-up into high-production-value feature films.
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Special thanks to Petr Luksan for H.R. Giger's Art in Motion (2010).
Footage also from Samsara (2011) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsara...)
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Part two is available here - www.michaelnayna.com/p/mary-harrington-in-the-cyborg-theocracy-325
Harrington is absolutely brilliant. We need her so much right now. Thanks to all.
Brilliant in what way?
She got hers
This is one of the most fascinating and horrifying things I’ve ever seen. Great job.
Being someone who doesn't watch TV, I'd not seen that govt funded COVID awareness ad until now. Pretty intense 30 second emotional experience..
@@jayrideau good point!
Same observation here!
Unexpected. I love these "meta perspectives" that climb out of the pit of arguing about specific ideological claims and noticing the larger pattern.
Great to have you back. This is terrific.
Wow. Brilliant piece of film.
Sorry to comment twice, but we have NOBODY in opposition to those ideologies of concern who actually understands them. That’s been a problem for a while. Typically when someone is deep enough in the critical theory direction to be able to truly understand it, they’ve become anointed and have far too much to lose if they were even capable of stepping back and criticizing the “critics of everything”. I think this woman is likely to be VERY important and I’m going to look into her work as soon as I send this comment.
This one slipped past my radar at first, but thankfully I noticed it tonight. Watched both parts and, I gotta say, it's great to see you back in action with intensely thought provoking ideas!
One of the two channels I have the bell notifications on.
Mike this is such amazing content. I’m back to watch it for what might be the 5th or 6th time.
It’s criminal that there’s only 10k views.
Please do more of these. Superb interview and the artful way that you edit it together is incredible. The part where youval is talking, what you did there is something special.
Thanks! There's a part two if you're interested - www.michaelnayna.com/p/mary-harrington-in-the-cyborg-theocracy-325 - beware it's pretty graphic.
Michael, this is absolutely astonishing. I've been wondering what you'd been up to lately. You'd been on my radar since your magnificent work on the Grievance Studies affair & the Evergreen Meltdown.
Mary Harrington just blew me away. What a deep, insightful, resolute mind.
She might be the missing intellectual link within this conundrum. James Lindsay bacame the historian; Peter looks at young minds; Michael fights on the christian front; Heather & Bret hold the evolutionary biology flank.
But Mary attacks the issue head on, weaving all aspects of technocratic fallacy & social constructivism into a tight bundle of contradictions that she then proceeds to elegantly untangle within minutes.
What a magnificent person.
Thank you both.
I enjoyed this appraisal.
@@MikeNayna I see the self-conscious smirk. It doesn't suit you. You deserve the appraisal. Hardly any of us have the energy or the courage to speak out or elevate other voices to speak true.
Again: thank you.
Greetings from Austria.
@@symmetricat188 I'm not sure if you missed this, I think you'll appreciate it - michaelnayna.substack.com/p/mary-harrington-in-the-cyborg-theocracy?
@@MikeNayna Yep, I'm on it...
I am very excited about this video. I’m not aware of her or any of her work but her ideas resonate tremendously with me and I think she’s brought us many steps closer to finding an accurate narrative of making sense of the current state of affairs and our trajectory. Although I’m not exactly thrilled to have a new, well articulated, highly probable apocalyptic concern lol This is probably the one that should be of the most concern because of the likelihood that these trends converging is very likely to be some kind of sci-fi Divine Comedy with some in Paradiso and others in the Inferno. When it comes to racial politics, we can also see the lack of empathy based on the internal dignity of each individual being replaced by intersectional check boxes being the only road to having value and empathy in your direction, and that’s not to say anything done for any groups will actually result in a better life because it’s all so reductionist and ironically, essentialist! You are given value by this or that arbitrary label you might fall under regardless of ANY personal experience of suffering at the hands of society at large. Maybe the most intersectional will be like a Brahman priestly caste of the cyborg theocracy, and white cis hetero males will be the untouchables 😂……or rather, 😢
That is some horrifying artwork in the thumbnail...
That's because transhumanism is immoral and evil. Technology is man's over reach. Playing God. Frankensteinian.
Fantastic conversation and the video cuts are an awesome job
Just found this, such interesting ideas. Looking forward to more.
That was such a great and thought provoking video. I was thinking about similar concepts, I hope to see more.
A great starting point for important conversation.
Well, that sounds like fun!
really cool! ty
Excellent discussion!
Dear Mike, your voice has been missed these past few years. Such a wonderful surprise to see this pop up in my recommendations today!
Brilliant breakdown
Welcome back!
Such a beautiful production, Mike
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Zuck is a terrifying cyborg
Glad you’re back Mike. Your documentaries are at the top of my essential viewing recommendations.
This is nightmare fuel..Fascinating, terrifying, sad but completely unsurprising and expected. The future is bleak but #ChristIsLord. Thank you for your work.
Mike this is amazing and wonderful. Keep it up!
great conversation, important topics, difficult problems with no technically correct answers
I missed this channel
Brilliant video and some really interesting ideas that will need some time to ponder. Great work.
I'm really loving bernardo kastrups' stuff on metaphysics at the moment.
With this series, Mike, I feel like an injection of Marshall McLuhan's work might help to contextualize and taxonomize the relationship between the human mammal and its technology. So frequently we objectify technology and endow it with self-contained divine status (even when we are critical of it), when in fact it only amounts to extensions of our own minds and bodies. McLuhan is masterful at properly organizing all of its aspects in a way that seeks to restore human consciousness and awareness. While in his own day his words were enigmatic and opaque to most audiences, as we fall deeper into the digital age, in which platforms possess the ability to introduce entirely new atmospheres, and as the psychedelic experience becomes a more commonly understood phenomena, his once-confusing language becomes increasingly understandable.
Concerning your thought that "as you're moving towards technology, being the ground of everything, you're moving aware from human nature," from McLuhan's perspective that is patently mistaken. Language itself is technology, as are every tool that begins with the opposable thumb, and we are a speaking, making species at our core. Human Nature is a fundamentally technological affair, and to suggest otherwise gives way to some sort of noble savage conception of man, (pleas pardon my anachronism) or to suggest some kind of Luddism as corrective.
I propose it would be more appropriate, following Heidegger, to discuss the Cult of Technology, or the Mass Market of Industrial Technology. The last thing we should entertain is the rejection of all human art and artifice, as if our creative nature, itself, were the cause of impending dystopia and technocratic hive-ification. The conversation requires vastly more nuance and, as I began, a more helpful and forgiving taxonomy than what we've got here.
Kudos to the two of you for engaging the subject as you do. It is perfectly appropriate to be framing the matter as a Cyborg Theocracy.
True Christian theology is actually not a belief system at all, nor is it dependent on belief. It is, more accurately, an acceptance that becomes a lived experience which proves itself accurate over and over to the one experiencing it. Interestingly, is detectable by those around such a person even if the observer is not living the experience directly his or her self. The mental process of mere belief is inadequate for such profound experiences. There is a huge difference between believing and acceptance, which becomes knowing. With knowing there is actual, concrete proof. This is the essence of spiritual science, which, like any science, requires rigor, honesty, and deep commitment, with virtue at its center. What it yields is priceless.
Wanted more of this
There's a part two if you're interested - www.michaelnayna.com/p/mary-harrington-in-the-cyborg-theocracy-325 - There's some very confronting gender surgery footage in it.
@@MikeNayna I really like the artful insertion of the clips over the interview, really elevates it
Thanks, @@user-yc5lb8fw5r
That was fucking brilliant. And horrifying.
'Who are the high priests of the cyborg theocracy?" asked the rural village vicar of the cyborg theocracy.
12:07 "Why shouldn't we graft fish skin on ourselves" - actually this one is becoming a reality right now (for burn patients), so it might well cross over into the cosmetic surgery world at some stage.
I'd like to see Mary in discussion with Donna Harraway. Not everyone has such a view of post/transhumanism. Most are against using the term 'natural' in terms of using it in opposition of alterity, such as gay people and other groups that get described as 'un-natural', used in place of 'ungodly' these days.
Ah, the enframing.... Nice move. I shall buy the book.
Is it more disturbing to see the woman "reeeing" or the crowd reacting by passively observing whilst they are all videoing it on a smartphone? What are the woman and the crowds reasons for their actions?
If she was insane, recording it would be sordid. But she is actually just beholden to an ideology that makes her behave that way. Which is very different.
...And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
Strikes me that there’s never been a greater opportunity to revitalise Aristotelianism. What is the nature of things?
I wish you would do introductions! I always like your work but I'm completely lost as to what it's about a lot.
I've started a substack for this very purpose - open.substack.com/pub/michaelnayna/p/mary-harrington-in-the-cyborg-theocracy?r=ruthq& . Sub and you'll see accompanying pieces. I appreciate the feedback, thanks.
I can't seem to find part one. Can you post a link?
What’s up w the flash of gore in the intro? Other than that, interesting video
What is that video about around the 15:00 mark?
I'm so here for the batshit crazy world of SciFi Science Fiction academics being exposed for the heavily anti human movement it often is.
Everybody is a believer. You either subscribe explicitly or implicitly to theocracy or you’re a proponent of secular pagan forms bereft of human limits or original sin. It still intimates at truth/authority. It’s something the new atheists took for granted. Now look.
part 2 when?
Well the text uses the present tense, "part 2 is a substack only release". So I assumed, now. But I can't find it.
@@peterford5408 yeah "subscribe to get part two later" without even saying that isn't the best way to do it imo but alright
4:08 “experience the world with ever greater richness”… Zuckerborg’s completely disassociated from reality. You can see it in his eyes. He goes on to talk about an embodied experience on meta. Couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s so ass backwards.
What is intended with the Satanic-looking imagery, around 1:30?
She articulates what I've pondered on and off for a couple years, but didn't really put into words: that all this social constructionist ideology is really just a nascent form of tech-driven transhumanism.
She deftly presents as causal relationships that are merely correlated to one another
Awesome video. Good points. But i have to neadpic(sorry for poor grammar)
Use of horrific split second images. Just why? Sorry but this feels forsed. It's not sudell. It's manipulative. You don't need this. Theme of this is more horrific. But if it's a point to artistically show dehumanise is this topic using ai art it's good but not in the way of 25-frame.
12:41 yuval is a monster
I, too, know how to hack people like him when the time comes
Weren't you doing an evergreen documentary?
The three-part Evergreen doc is already on this channel, and the film I promised is about the Grievance Studies Affair. It's a few weeks away, sign on to Substack for updates.
Here's the backstory if you're interested - www.patreon.com/posts/grievance-film-81636905?Link&
Good grief.
I think cyber theocracy good idea for society it makes transhumanism and religious Authority all-in-one
Saying you 'do' something based on materiality or technological mindset is an error. You can look at things the way you wish, even if you are in a corporation, or impacted by technology, I'd describe that more as materialism or idolatry. Not a new problem, very unsexy, but also, these problems have been around, the 'new' technology doesn't change us, just what we can do and/or how we do it.
TechnoPhilia. I read the now seminal (and ultimately dystopian) duo of trans humanism treatises , Frank J. Tipler's 'The Physics Of Immortality' and Ray Kurzweil's 'The Age Of Spiritual Machines' in the mid to late 1990s, while in college. At first read seemed like sci fi utopia, but w/ a few years later, on second read both ring ultimately like Dystopian Ego trips...a hodge hodge of wishful thinking, techno phillia, misguided humano centrism and quite frankly some philosophically and conceptually misconceptions impossibilites. And mind you, Kurzweil's book has a timeline at eh end , purporting to 'predict' when certain landmark innovations will, occur, and needless to say, it's already completely behind schedule.
There’s this idea that transhumanists are woke. But those are different things. Although there may be intersections, as there are between woke people and Christians, for example. The fact is that transhumanists tend to be extremely objective and to guided themselves by empirical evidence. And woke people tend to value subjectivity and narratives.
Not quite. Did you listen to the whole video? This point was very clearly addressed.
The question that BOTH transhumanists and the “woke” would answer in the same way is “Do human beings have a certain nature?”
Both of these groups of people stem from a Rousseau-esque “blank slate” position.
A great example of that shows how transhumanism is a conclusion of wokism is obviously gender theory and transgender ideology. The central tenant of this ideology is that “queering” oneself is to simultaneously transcend the physical limits placed on one’s body, and to reject societally imposed binaries. These two objectives are one and the same to the gender activist. Millions (this is not an exaggeration) of words both written in academic papers and spoken in lectures and essays have been used to make this point. This is a big deal to the gender activist. I don’t see how you can say that transhumanism and wokism are two distinct ideologies.
You are technically right, there does certainly exist an intersection of the woke and the transhumanists. But this intersection looks almost entirely like two circles sitting on top of one another. Those that lie outside of the intersection are in the minority, and increasingly so.
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Pity Mary couldn’t be around for the pagan indigenous idolatry festival which is about to commence.
I get the premise but for 22 minutes not much was discussed. Or rather a lot was said but nothing discussed in depth.
Read "The Ophiuchi Hotline" by John Varley.
It gives good insight in the leftist faith and mindset of infinite mutability of humans.
And she looks so normal 😉
Thank you for the interview and "undressing" of this pernicious worldview. It's basically materialism, through and through - the belief that the world is a machine, mechanical and we can take it apart bit by bit and reassemble it, even man, as a soulless, unembodied thing. The theocracy overlay really adds a wrinkle - that there is a concerted, explicit moral overclass guiding this, preaching this, enforcing this church of materialism.
Somebody tell this woman she isn't 18 years old, and she can stop tossing back her bleach-blonde hair like she's in a shampoo commercial. You can certainly tell she's been corrupted by the social media age.