PSU collective releases letter to students attacking Peter Boghossian
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- Portland State University professors have published an anonymous letter attacking colleague and philosophy professor Peter Boghossian, publishing it in PSU's student paper, The Vanguard. The letter was directed at Pete and Google memo author, James Damore.
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These three are heroes to the silent minority in higher ed. Thank you!
i would go so far to even say they are heroes to the silent majority. Noone wants this stuff, everyone fears the consequences of speaking up about it
Fully agree with you here, i am from higher ed too
Seems like a facetious comment, but I think you may actually be right. IT's a big turning point against universities.
It’s at the point where they don’t even need to write a detailed hit piece, they could just point a finger and say “this person is bad.”
The ideology they’ve been indoctrinated is like a current in a river, I don’t know how to stop it because you can’t convince 1 of them, how can we convince all of them?
At this point, whenever I see an attack on someone's character I'm inclined to believe the opposite of the claims.
Crow that’s how I get through life now. I also see it as projection.
Crow count me in.
@pffft63 hot damn. I don't think you forgot one trigger warning
Ad hominem, when they know they can’t win on facts they attack the character, slander is the default tactic of these far left looneys
its ad hoc. usually its used in bad faith
Your refusal to cower is god damn heroic. I’m not a teacher and I’ve already graduated school but if you ever need anyone to stand loudly with you all I will gladly.
Share this with your friends. In July 2020 this is more critical than ever.
The definition of cowardice. A collective of back stabbers.
yeah,that`s what 21 century americans became ,another 'chosen people'
I am a PhD student, I support you guys.
Which field?
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 Computer Science at the Australian National University
Mark Burgess Please do what you can to fight this wherever you may end up or at least do not sacrifice your beliefs to avoid their ire.
k... don't know what that has to do with anything but support is nice
@James B remember its not liberals, its the group identity politics. No one group in inherently evil.
“The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.” - Thomas Sowell
@James B you are spot on
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.
Which is exactly what happened with us and the SJWs before they took over the world. Here's hoping they're going to be as dumb as we were.
@@LordTurtleneck what do you mean?
Except that the left and more specifically the rabid progressives now makes up the overwhelming majority of the social sciences so I'd say they have already won. This is the first stage of squeezing them out or even better making them marginalised within their professions (keeping them in their jobs in some ways looks better, like they are superficially a "big tent" open to all ideas, but those dissenters are effectively knee-capped given no oxygen)
More like first they yell at you, then they play the victim, then they fight you, then they play the victim again, and then they probably win.
Andrew E How we win this cultural war is convincing people it’s okay to question these people and to not be afraid of the consequences. It’s becoming more socially acceptable to be against the progressive left or identity politics. Once it’s seen as a legitimate position their cultish ideology will slowly collapse.
Keep going. The vast majority is behind you.
The thing about being anonymous is that you can pretend to be a list of professors even if you're a lone nutcase undergraduate who is flunking their coursework.
But the thought that these might really be professors is disturbing. It's not like there aren't already a few out there tweeting wicked nonsense under their own names.
It's no surprise that the same pattern of cowardly attacks we have seen levelled against Damore and Peterson are coming the way of the Sokal Squared team.
Give it time, they too will be referred to indirectly in hushed tones by initial only (like "He Who Must Not Be Named").
Quote mining, false framing and mockery will continue to be a fashionable way to feign intelligence to impress all the wrong people.
Those who defend them will be labelled and dismissed as "delusional fanboys", muted and blocked.
Great point. The Laurier gang of three told Lindsey Shepard that students had complained about her lesson involving Jordan Peterson. They eventually had to admit that there was no student complaint. Anonymous hit pieces like this really shouldn't be allowed. If they have the "courage" to say it, they should put their names on it.
Keep on going. Dont give up on what you are doing.
“Who identify as women” the small things make me laugh.
The small things show how far they are gone.
what about attack helicopters? where is my representation?
Yeah, if they believe they're really women they wouldn't have to say "identify".
@@derekmaggard9235 i agree
Doesn't this also contradict their insistence that trans women ARE women. Saying that these people 'identify' as women implies that they aren't in fact 'real' women. Isn't this hate speech by their own standards?
Bullying is bad enough in itself; bullying anonymously is an incredible act of cowardice.
Best documentary in the making ever
Benjamin Boyce is also making one about Evergreen! I can't wait to see it.
Hope everyone on here sponsors it. If those who liked this video gave just ten dollars I'm sure it'd be up and running.
You are restoring faith in academia.
Peter is one of the best profs that I studied under while getting my BSEE at PSU. I always found his classes to be engaging, enlightening, and broadening. He always struck me as a person who is deeply invested in the process of helping his students grow intellectually rather than just pushing his ideas on others. His classes, of which I took more than my STEM degree called for, where an absolute highlight of my time at PSU because he offered us the chance to discuss all manner of weighty, thorny issues with our peers by treating us like adults and pushing us beyond our intellectual comfort zones. Peter's style of teaching is what philosophy departments should be built upon. This man should be head of the department, not being shit upon in the school's paper by a bunch of people who are too afraid to put their name next to what they say.
Tim Gulzow
This is absolutely crazy! I graduated 6 years ago and never saw anything like this. I'm in awe of your courage and determination to rid the world of this garbage! Wishing you all the best. Stay safe. More people need to know about this story!! You guys need to do more media to get this out
"But it is not the minds of heretics that are deteriorated most, by the ban placed on all inquiry which does not end in the orthodox conclusions. The greatest harm done is to those who are not heretics, and whose whole mental development is cramped, and their reason cowed, by the fear of heresy." - JS Mill
T Clark some people will only be able to see this in retrospect
I am stunned this whole thing hasn't drawn a massive amount more interest. What you are doing is so exciting and so important. Have become a Patreon & will be watching from Perth (WA) with keen interest. All four of you are awesome!
Thanks for the support, Crazymummyp, I really appreciate it. Always happy to hear people back home are interested.
I agree with Nayna. This is the Mean Girls "burn book." When they talked about Boghossian, et al. "devaluing the degrees of students," it confirmed something I've suspected for a while. This is the same criticism that is leveled at people like the anonymous authors of this article. They are paying attention to the criticism directed at them, noting it down, and then using the language of that criticism against people like these three. It is utterly disingenuous and spiteful. Once again, it's "idea laundering." It's completely in keeping with postmodernism, because why try to have an original thought? They would ask what *is* an original thought? To them, such a thing doesn't exist. Things like this are moves of power, not moves of reason. That's all one needs to know, and should be given all due respect, which is to say none. It's Mad Magazine shit.
Its feminism: concerned only with passive aggressive action and reputation destruction.
It is going to be a challenge for Mike Nayna to "pick and choose" the gold highlights as i bet the whole raw footage is a golden mine for absurdity :D
I hope you gain some real support in the university, Peter. Good luck.
This is something that has to be confronted head on. You cannot back down from these threats and attacks. This group-think garbage is only defeated when it is faced head on, and with continued effort. The second you bend the knee and apologize, its over. Good luck to you all. The work you are doing is essential and I'm very thankful that you are all brave enough to do it.
"Pete, will it affect your job if we put it up on the web?" "I don't care." This is the strength of conviction that changes things. Putting their FACES and reputations, to say nothing of scholarship, out there, in the public, ready to be engaged with. Agree or disagree with the premise, you can't disagree with the method. (Well, you CAN, but not honestly.)
Appreciate the work you are all doing - Jim, Peter, Helen and Mike. Telling my friends and will continue to get the word out.
Anyone who pays taxes that go to a public university should be listening to this content and contacting college presidents, regents, etc. My letter to these people asks what measures are being taken to invesitage univserity wide diversity committees, grievance study programs and school policies as measured by the hetrodoxacademy.org tools.
Heterdox Academy rocks.
He should go to the newspaper and confront the editor... and record it, of course. See what he has to say.
It's actually a she... How dare I assume anything (psuvanguard.com/contact-2/)
@@matiastoro1667 Good self-correction! 😁 Sign of intellectual honesty.
A flock of sheep.
A pack of lions.
A collective of cowards.
Ready to add that last one to my nomenclature.
A cabal of authoritarians
A load of bollocks
I thought it was a pride of lions. Sorry, your point remains. Anonymity has become a tool/weapon of the far left and takes me back to the Stanford prison experiment. It is easy to be the faceless mob. Behind mirrored sunglasses, black balaclavas or the label of a collective.
@@MikeAzariah Doh, it is a pride. *slaps forehead
A pride of lions is the term generally used, and I think the term applies to Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, and others involved in this exposure of smelly sillness in some academic journals.
I knew it was only going to be a matter of time, but Wow they have really gone above and beyond on this one!!
Thank you Peter, James & Helen, you really are doing heroic work!! And thanks Mike for putting this together and out there!
University SHOULD be a place where maturing happens, but this act of "warning students" seems anything but an encouragement of said maturity..
I could not think of a better advertisement for Professor Boghossian’s courses. If I had seen this in my school paper I would have immediately adjusted my schedule to include one of his courses. I am now a little disappointed I didn’t go to PSU for graduate studies.
No good deed goes unpunished. Stay strong professor. We need people like you.
I used to go to PSU. I say used to, but I dropped all of my classes only yesterday (due to their lack of care or concern for their students, and apparently faculty, in a multitude of ways) and I'm incredibly surprised by the stupidity of much of the student body and faculty, to not see the point that Boghossian was making with what he did. It is such a massive echo chamber, and if anyone questions their beliefs, they ostracize you. Just like they're doing to Boghossian. And not only that, but they get offended, they get loud, violent, vulgar, unprofessional... It speaks volumes to me that so much of the student body agrees with what PSU is doing, this smear campaign, and his punishment through the IRB. They have their heads so far up their own asses that they don't even see the point the three were making about the echo chamber that has become academia. Thank you, Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, and James Lindsay for your academic honesty. Thank you for pointing this out. I have no regrets about leaving PSU. I will be glad to be out of an echo chamber of ideas that I didn't agree with.
This article is extremely disturbing to me. I really am having a hard time getting my head around how this is happening. Please, Helen, James and Peter continue your efforts to expose this hypocrisy!
I love you guys and gal! You are doing important work that needs to be done. You should argue that actually the feminist take over of academia is lowering the value of every degree issued by a university. I actually asked a question earlier today " could someone sue a university saying that allowing a non meritocratic system in said university actually lowered the value of alumni's degrees causing actual damages to the point where the degree is worthless"?
Someone should sue one of these Universities for a FULL REFUND of tuition & related expenses. Better yet, get a whole BUNCH of folks in a class action lawsuit who "feel" (heh!) that their degree lacks value because of the horseshit scholarship propping up greivance studies. In the end, it is ALWAYS "money talks, bullshit walks"...you can bet a successful lawsuit will get these dipshit administrators to stop allowing these fraudulent degree holders in the door.
I haven’t been this riveted by a developing story since Serial Season 1. Thank you, Mike! All the rest of you guys, we’re behind you. Truth will prevail. Stay strong!
I love the fact that they admitted that they're worried about their work being devalued.
Keep it up, keep your chins up, don’t burn out. You’ve found the hub of the issue; the groundlessness of this field of the academy; but it’s a big wheel, with a lot of momentum. Don’t burn yourselves out trying to put the brakes on all by yourselves. Keep loudly clearly and patiently pointing out the dynamics of the wheel, and we will all try and apply some friction wherever we can get our a hands on. You’re doing great. Thank you so much.
Very good advice, IMO. I concur! 😊
Your story reminds me of the academic mobbing of Justine Sergent, an associate professor at McGill University, which led to her suicide. I admire your courage and I am glad to see that you have the support of many thinkers preoccupied with intellectual honesty in our institutions of knowledge.
Hi C Bouchard, very good point, I remember the erosion and destruction of Dr. Sergent and her husband - what a tragedy. Merci pour ces remarques, nous en avons besoin de plus de "bon sens" dans ce monde cruel et "bore-sighted". Peace be with you, Ciao, L (Universite de Montreal)
It might not even be other professors. Anonymous means anything means nothing.
You are doing a wonderful work documenting this process Mike!
Thank you for the update. Please keep posting.
What cowards. Don't give up. As a gay man and with all the bs that gets added in with another letter added to LGB rights movements etc. has been leaving me more empty. I cried watching a video you guys did with JP. Truth and the search for it is worth something. I cried bc I found some kind of human connection and meaning when there at times feels like there's so little of it at times nowadays. It means so much. Thank you. ❤❤❤
Please make a full doco. This is fascinating and important for the public to see.
Thank you three so much. Lots of love and respect. Keep it up!
I'm sure it stings when you're the target, but for what it's worth, those reactions just make your case stronger. In some respects, much stronger.
In one respect in particular, it kinda prove the entire thesis.
I don't usually post things ever really. However this is a real problem with real world consequences. What can I do to help spread this narrative of nuance and truth to others who can fall victim to what you guys are trying to combat? I don't have social media (never liked it or cared for it) and I'm far from being a scholar to fully understand all the terminology used, but I do know what's right and what you have committed to do is the right thing. Thank you for your work. You are a beacon of hope not only for this generation, but also for those that follow.
Fascinating... In the text where they attack an individual anonymously they acknowledge the danger of being attacked as individuals (potentially by others acting anonymously) if they were to not be anonymous. They represent the very thing they decry.
I'm a PhD student and I support you guys
Hi Mike, excellent production and very enlightening upload if not terrifying upload. I am appalled at the erosion of freedom of speech in our (American and Canadian) societies in direct conflict with our First Amendment, yes the first (USA). I thank you for taking the time to assemble these videos which provide some balance and shed the truth on these popular if not spectacular gender/racism/inequity/... issues the US/Canada media are inundating us with. Please keep on the good work and maintain your objectiveness doing your best to present both sides of the coin(s). Peace be with you, Ciao, L (USA)
So much respect for you all, I want to help too. From someone living in London, I know this isn’t a worldwide issue yet but it has to potential to be.
You are giving me lots of hope, joy and courage. Thank you Helen, Peter and James
The founding fathers signed the declaration they sent to king george knowing it meant certain death. They did this because they knew what was right in their hearts. I wish we had taught our kids the virtues of integrity and bravery. Maybe that hit piece would look a lot different.
Right. Either we do that, or the neo-Marxist ideologues do. I'd also add the virtue of personal responsibility. The "progressives" speak a lot about group responsibility and rarely demand personal responsibility from anyone they perceive a "victim" or "oppressed" - terms they define. The problem is, many useful idiots on the far left do what they do "because they knew what was right in their hearts", but they have their values twisted.
"Hard times create strong men, strong mean create good times. Good times create weak men, weak men create hard times."
Thank you so much for documenting this Mike. Thanks for Evergreen stuff too. I’ve also watched the Benjamin Boyce series. It was great to see you James & Benjamin all together.
They use this technique that is so widespread nowadays: Accuse your adversary of your own misdemeanors. It is hard to counter because you would logically repeat the same accusations back at them, and that in turn would make you sound childish and silly.
I think they rely on that tactic. They think it gives them the freedom to act as foolishly and maliciously as they want, as long as they can officially accuse YOU of it. Victimologists do that a lot, including politicians, educators you name it.
What they don't seem to notice is that they LIE. They have become so over-confident that they lie the public in its face. They are overdoing it so fast, it gets embarrassing enough so that everybody notices.
You (We) will win soon, I can smell it. Your fates don't go unnoticed. Keep strong, just expose the lies and the cowardice. They're on the brink of collapse.
Sue them.
this needs to be more widely known
Mike, this is gonna be a awesome documentary.
I appreciate your research very much. Thank you.
Excellent and important work you're doing. Keep going!
Good for you guys... awesome work!
Thank you for sharing this. I’m a proud follower of the IDW, and I’m so glad you guys are helping expose the rampant lunacy in universities.
Peter,Oxford alumna here. Academia has always been a septic tank,where careerists,opportunists,moral cowards,frauds and charlatans prevail. This obnoxious academic lynch mob strategy destroyed the lives and careers of two of my mentors,Dr Sarah Goode and Dr Bill Thompson,since I have nothing but contempt for academics in general. There is life outside academia,stay strong,these vermin's can libel and attack you,but you have dignity and integrity,and there is nothing they can do about it. How can we concretely help you?.
Keep up the good fight. Genuinely can't wait to see this as a finished documentary.
I cannot wait for this documentary to come out
From a Spaniard living in the UK (all of this 'grievance studies' sh*t is endemic), please, never give up. What you guys are doing is right, it's just, it's a necessity. Please don't be bullied by these sycophantic cowards.
We must prevail.
You are doing a great thing here Mike. Cheers!
Let's spread this far and wide. People need to know about this stuff. Retweet them, share, make sure the word gets out that this is happening.
First, for lack of a better way of saying it, I am on the side of these three and what they are doing.
Second, you know what else is cowardly? All the other teachers who have told these three that they are on their side but want to remain anonymous under the guise of losing their jobs. If this shit keeps going, you're going to lose your job anyway and without a fight. Don't be like the anonymous garbage that wrote the hit piece.
"-At first they came for the Jews- but I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew.
-Then they came for the Gypsies- but I did not speak out, because I was not a Gypsy.
-Next they came for the trade unionists- but I did not speak out, because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me- and I was taken, for there was no one left to speak out for me."
@@jaygilbert4546 Exactly.
You guys are heroes! Thanks.
Got my support! Thanks for your stand against nonsense
COWARDS!!! This only CONFIRMES you are doing the correct thing. Peter keep up the great work. You have MUCH MORE support then what these 'professors' lie about. So glad you made this response video. 100000% behind you.
“That’s not criticism, that’s cynicism!”
BRILLIANT!!!!
Thank u for your service
If a paper allows articles to be published by anonymous people I feel that paper should be held liable
This a phrase from the article that really gets to me:
_While many would normally consider these non-research, educationally-irrelevant “hoax” activities to be unworthy of addressing, credulous journalists interested mainly in spectacle have taken these frauds and introduced them to the broader world._
It's written as if the authors are attacking the _contents_ of the hoax papers and imagining that these are what journalists are spread, and are not understanding the nature of the probe at all.
I'd like to understand the psychological reasons for this behaviour. Are they just people with many degrees but limited intelligence so they honestly don't understand the issues?
Or are they intelligent people acting in dishonesty knowingly, and betting in their students' being credulous and unintelligent?
What kind of personality traits does it take to act like this? And how come these fields attract individuals with those traits?
I only had a very basic education in a state school in the UK.
A lot of this is just beyond my understanding.
However I’m absolutely stunned at the content of your videos and the state of affairs in universities across Europe/USA/Canada.
These people are so certain that they’re the good guys they feel they can behave how ever they please.
They wield their power like a sword and simultaneously consider themselves powerless. It’s fucking scary !
You guys keep up the amazing work, they have no leg to stand up on
Sue them...
Threaten to sue the PSU's student paper, The Vanguard, for publishing unsubstantiated and libellous attacks to the person, one of their own professors. This is clearly a case, where the publisher also has responsibilities for the content it publishes.
Shared...fight the good fight! We are with you!
Keep fighting the good fight! Sane people in the West appreciate your work.
Peter we are all behind you!!! Do what needs to be done!
Thank you, @mikenayna @peterboghossian @jameslindsay @helenpluckrose for you exceptionally important work. The PSU portion piece is disgusting. Thank you for standing up to the bullies.
As a student with a passion for truth and moral value, you three are my role models. Best wishes.
I know all too well how infuriating and at times even hopeless it is to stand in front of an agry mob behind nothing more than the banner of truth. The absolute COWARDS in academia who refuse to stand up to this insanity are complicit. You are all heroes. You’re not alone. We can all see how absolutely absurd this nonsense has become and we stand together with you.
Your work is very important!
Please pass on my love and support to these people. We appreicate and respect the work you are doing and please don't let these horrible people take you down.
Stay strong! I've shared your story with a number of people and it's opening eyes. Your findings might prove to be the catalyst to real, positive change in academia, but it's going to come with a lot of BS and personal attacks in the meantime. Thank you all for your courage and hard work.
How did PSU president respond to this campaign by some faculty against one faculty member?
Glad you had the balls to do this
Since I am only a poor student in the Netherlands I only support you with 1€/month. As soon as I have more income and stable finances I will increase my donation.
I wish you a lot of success with these documentaries. I feel like all my fellow students underestimate the danger of the current SJW-movement. Hopefully, people will realize soon how important scientific thinking and logical reasoning is.
Thanks, guys, for helping with speeding up this process.
I really hope this gets more attention
As someone who's been following Peter's work since before all this BS in the universities started to become mainstream, I gotta say, it's ludicrous to see the point at which the american and canadian universities have gotten. I'm Portuguese, so I live on the eastern side of the Atlantic. Looking in into this distopian reality, happening to one of the greatests countries in the world, is quite frightning. If the USA doesn't put up with this shit, I don't know who will. I'd love to see more people in support of Peter though. Fear and silence will not make the situation better, especially for the children of those who are on Peter's side but refuse to speak up and act.
Also, I'd love to have had Peter as a professor.
Sue the school.
"I don't care [if I lose my job]."
That's not the sound of someone resigned to a lost cause or a losing position. That's the sound of a man so righteously infuriated, he's ready to bet his house on seeing this crusade through.
I am totally on your side, Peter! This is nonsense and the perfect example for cowardliness at the same time! Don't give up the fight against these witch-hunters! Let there be the light of reason! Cheers from Vienna, Austria, George
I am in awe of you guys. I wish I could say I would be just as courageous in your shoes but that probably isn't so. You are my heroes.
Good Luck Professor B. My brother lives in Portland and he told me 2 years ago how Antifa has been disrupting Portland for years.
I'm happy he is not dealing with this alone.
Isolating their victim is the purpose of all the unfounded accusations like racism and sexism. It sure helps to be a member of a team.
Please keep us updated, this is so entertaining! Makes me sad at the same time, for humanity i guess, but you are a light in the dark! Why do i have to think of Orwell so often nowadays?!
This letter is the evidence you hit them really really hard.