DIY 2x range booster battery for electric scooter or e-bike
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2019
- Learn how to make your own battery with my book DIY Lithium Batteries: amzn.to/2jbxvzS or check out my second book - The Ultimate DIY Ebike Guide: amzn.to/2BGx4Fn
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For years, Micah has helped to make it more possible financially and technically for folks to acquire for themselves, small vehicle electric transportation. And he endeavors to bring more useful information and products needed in the future as well. The competition does not like that. He is really a nice fellow that loves people and wants to help others, and he does spend the time and effort to do so. A+
This is a great project to do considering getting twice as much range. Thank you for the video.
I read several unclear books about batteries, then I decided to buy yours. Congratulations it is fantastic. Clear. I read it in two days. Now I'll read it again to write down the most important things. thanks a lot
A whole swat team invaded my house because my neighbor thought I was building a bomb in my garage...
Loool
Lmao that’s hella funny
Really?
It's true, I was the neighbor
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Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos! A video on wire gauges for power wires and battery capacity would be great! I want to build a pack, but worry about burning up the wiring if it supplies too much power :p
Thanks for the instruction. I can't seem to afford anything for myself so I have to build it all. Electric and electric assist is next on the DIY to do list. Can't wait to put it into practice.
And yet another very informative video. Thanks! PS DIY battery book is a must for anyone wanting to build a battery pack. I've read my copy more than once and learn more each time. Thanks Micah.
As always, an excellent instructional video. Looking forward to your next project.
Subbed. What a great video! I loved it; From his reasonable pitch for his book, to what he creates in the end, that blew my mind! There's a business opportunity with someone with the basic chops! Including sewing even. Awesome.
I just got the HiBoy S2 scooter and it is great. I love how simple this process is. I have some recovered laptop batteries that I would love to repurpose for this.
hey I just bought the HiBoy S2 also. So you followed his instructions and you get twice the range now?
@@JapRapNipHop420 I haven't actually done the project, I was interested, however, with young children I don't have the time.
Does not work on the hiboy S2. Don't waste your time. I did a video on how I did it. I can not travel about 23-26 miles distance with two batteries :)
Thanx for the advice on balancing the battery as well as uneven voltage loads. These are important little nuggets.
Your videos have helped me make my own electric scooter. Thank you for making them.
Thank you Micah, just what i asked previously to double distance on my Orbea Gain. Bought your solar panels book. Very informative.
This is a fascinating channel, I've been itching to build an ebike for a while, now!
Awesome video. I've been wondering whether or not to build/buy a second battery for the eFat bike. Perhaps a booster pack is the way to go.
As always, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
Great stuff!! Thank you for passing on your knowledge and wisdom. I look forward to putting this to use on my new scooter. I also have a bicycle I am hoping to convert to an while since I will be checking out what you have to teach me on that subject seeing as you mention this at the end of this clip. Again thanks so much for passing on your knowledge and wisdom on these topics. Your new student, Brian;-p
Great video as always. Made 3 5s9p batteries with the help of your videos.
Thanks Micah, I always learn a lot from your well presented videos!
I like your videos a lot. Keep up the great work.
I have the same scooter. Behind the black panel is the controller board. What I did was cut the battery battery wires that lead into the controller and put xt-60 female, then xt-60 male into the controller. I pulled them outside of the black panel. This way to use the built in battery just keep them plugged in. To use the spare battery, I just unplug the built in and plug the spare in. I keep that one in my backpack and it is double the capacity of the original. The difference is this does not send the spare battery's output to charge the built in battery. That is why the range wasn't double. In my case with a 2x spare I have triple the original range.
Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them.
This is definitely rocket science I need that book ASAP !
I world love to have that extended range on my scooter! Thanks for that video..
I always love these battery videos.
Great videos, watching with intense interest and am considering building my own 48V-20Ah battery for second battery on my ebike. keep up the great work
This is a great video. Im trying to build a range extender for my 750W Bafang Mid Drive E-Bike
I used a step up voltage converter and two Ryobi One+ 18V batteries in parallel. As the batteries are removable I can charge them both at the same time as the scooter if I have three sockets. The step up converter provides a constant 52.2 volts in to a 54 volt pack at about 3-4 amps. This means the 18 volt batteries are delivering in excess of 10 amps until they are completely drained. The power protection electronics in the batteries shut them down if they overheat or under volt. It’s a few layers of protection but if the batteries die, I just buy a another One+ battery. Do not connect the supplies with more than 1 volt difference unless you like loud bangs. I already have a copy of your book
Great idea ! I think I'll have to try it soon. Thanks as always for the information.
Like the sewing - pretty and well protected! 3d printing is also an option. Not too hard to find printers today that can easily print 30 cm langth, and in strong Abs or petg which can also be water resistant if you feel adventurous
Glad to see more videos are coming our way. :)
Ooh some interesting info here. Thank you.
Awesome video. Thanks for the great info; i am motivated to add another battery to my scooter to increase range; was a little afraid, but i now understand what's needed. Thanks
Hey Micha, I was wondering how would I go about wiring 2 of the exact same Gotrax 36V stem batteries for the GXLV2 scooter in parallel? I'm a lil confused cuz of the 3 pin triangle output. Thanks buddy & great vids as always
just bought your book, amazing job and videos, i assume the charge time for your battery took 2x as long as before with the same charger you used for charging the scooter prior to the battery upgrade? also the battery indicator on the scooter, i assume it reflecs the percentage of the remaining power left for the old battery which should approximately equate to the same percentage of remaining battery in the new scooter as both the new and old batteries should have the same voltage? Are these both answers yes?
Awesome Micah. The sewed bag is a nice touch.
I started watching because of the electric motorcycle videos, but you are drawing me into the e world. Great project. Would love your book and more videos on the bike you bought.
Warning!! These Electric bikes and motorcycles are addictive! I started two years ago and have built several electric vehicles including a solar electric recumbent trike that hauls me and my two teenagers around, and we have done trips of over 100 miles with it and have gotten great results running only on Sunshine! Metalman69201@gmail.com if you'd like a picture of the solar electric trike.
well, i got the book and I know I'm in over my 70+ old mind. but my #1 question is what class and how large of a fire exchanger is needed to ensure a few remains?
I always enjoy your videos. I’ve read both of your DIY solar and Battery books and they are the best. You were recommended by Jehu Garcia. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, and I liked that you showed a non welding way, to build the pack.
welding is a lot safer tho, i would suggest soldiering the connectors after to prevent loosing from vibration during riding! Or just by an inexpensive battery pack on ebay.
That's a very nice looking build! Thanks for the video.
You make some really good videos dude, keep up the great work!
You're very informative Bro! Keep the videos coming! 👍👍
Your videos are amazing. Keep up the good work.
Very nice demonstration of building your own battery! I'm making my own 48v lead acid setup and just completed the battery box today. I will be following this same method for the purpose of the Maiden Ride, It will be helpful to have this backup power when needed, switched, or just as you have demonstrated! Send me your book Maaa'n! I promise Im gonna need it!
Are you sure this is safe? Matching the voltage is easy but what about capacity and chemistry? Can you safely boost through the charge port? Is that really running parallel? Can you boost a regular lithium battery with a lifepo4 of the same voltage through the charge port? Really? This isn't really running them parallel is it? Thanks!
I kinda stumbled onto your videos and I'm really impressed! Would love to get a copy of the battery building book.
sweet video-I have a Jetson Bolt and would love to know how to get more top speed out of it say 18 to 20 mph while keeping or extending its range. Can that be done or is it beyond the capability of the factory motor?
Always great videos, thanks for the knowlege
Thank you for this video! I have experience with residential electrical work. Someone in a BMW hit my car and ran from the scene totaling my car. Insurance paid for the accident but it was not enough to get a reliable car without picking up a new car payment that I can't afford. I already eat rice and oatmeal everyday as it is. I commute about 8 miles per day. I bought a new E scooter in December after the insurance payout. Best $500 dollars I have ever spent, literally!! I bought the Hover 1 "Alpha", but everyone seems to have the step down version called the "journey". I get to and from the doctor, a total of about 8 miles in eco mode 6 days a week. Even when it has been 19 degrees fahrenheit, here in Maryland, in the mornings. I definitely thought about adding a battery pack to extend range. I didn't want to open the machine and void the warranty I paid for. Now that I've seen you do the same thing I have been contemplating I think Im am going to give it greenlight and order the batteries and bms this weekend, Thanks again , Joshua ps sorry, I dont usually type much but a proper thank you was due here!
Hi, I hope you re well!! What happened to your project? Did it all work out?
Good video. Excellent way to double range with limited space.
Great Video! Is this a better way to connect multiple batteries together instead of hard wiring in parallel? how many can you connect together?
Thanks again
Hi. I recently came across your awesome channel. Can you confirm - if I change the motor to suit the battery ie higher motor / battery would I have to change anything else ? I have a 3 wheel mobility scooter which as a project I wish to increase distance. Advice would be great please. Thanks sam
Great video.thanks. Ok know voltage .5% up or down difference makes no difference but what if use a 36v4.4ah on a 36v 5.2ah battery for go trax rival and can I buy one already made with different ah but same voltage and splice tip of wire or connector to plug into my gotrax rival for extra diy power?thanks...
Good job. Always appreciate the videos!
Thanks for the video. If I have a 36v 12ah scooter can I use two 18v 6ah Milwaukee battery's and run them in series? If so, would I need to hook anything else to it or just wire it?
It is so informative on my project I'm trying to make a back up battery for my ham radio and scooter.
How cool! .. i stumbled upon your channel looking for a way to use solar to charge my hover round mobility scooter to possibly have a way to add or recharge my scooter for longer travel distance. I thought your video was very informetive. Ty
Hi and thanx for great video's.
I was wondering, do u know of any great app for monitoring battery health on scooters.?
Thinking of both m365 all of them and Ninebot.?
Thanks again from Norway
Thanks for a good video. I have a turboant x8 max with removable battery. Do you have any good advice for connecting a battery like the one you build in the video. My turboant cannot turn on when charging. That's why I can't connect like you do in the video. I think I have to solder a plug on the wires inside the scooter?
Keep up the good work, Micah!!!
Great video. I have a electric wheelchair attachment called firefly and it has a 250 watts hub brushless motor and runs on a 36 volt 6.6ah battery. I like to add a booster like you did in video so I just plug it into charging port and extend my range. Can I use the same as what you made in this video...?
Thanks alot for the video bro, was really helpful for us us noobs to understand.
So as long has my new battery pack is the same 72 volts,I can still use a higher A.H ( 80ah) than the existing battery (35ah)?
I can't wait to start mine. Your books look to be very interesting..
Which part in the description list did you use in your build to solder onto the battery pack and make a connection to the scooter?
i purchased a 36v 6a replacement battery. may i just plug this battery into the charger port on my kugoo electric scooter once i have charged both batteries to 100%. like you did on this video with your custom built battery pack. thank you so much for all you teach us. hal blaine
Love your video I learned a lot from you bro keep up the good work of building battery trying to build a 36 volt battery 12 ah can you please let me know how many cells I need and what is the amp thanks
Thanks to you I have a 63v overvolted 48v 1000w bike. I was wondering should I put a 500w or 1000w? Not sure if 500 watt would be a hindrance at some speed.
I do enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Question, what are the part numbers for the plugs you used? I cannot find them in the list of things. My son has a GoTrax G2 and I want to build him an external battery for added use time. Also, do I just use the same charger that came with the GoTtax to charge the homemade battery?
You make this fun!!! Thank you!
Hello, I would like to improve the battery of my Electric Scooter Xiaomi Mijia M365 but I am not sure if I extend the battery that has been adding more batteries and using the same BMS and also expanding its room with pieces of 3D plastic or adding an external battery. There is also the possibility of extending the battery by expanding its voltage to increase the speed of the scooter and for this it would need to modify the BMS with 6 mosfets and condenser 100v 1000uf. I need the scooter to move around London UK at a distance of 30 to 40 miles round trip and charge at home. Thanks for the video it helps a lot to understand the world of batteries and electricity.
Thanks for the awesome video! Wondering - re: GOTRAX GXL V2, any ideas on how to 1) increase max speed 2) kill the Cruise Control feature? Thank you in advance for any helpful leads!
Hey Mika cuz I have a GoTrax GXL v2 also & literally have 2 of there battery packs that go into the frame. I was just wondering if u could just let me kno the easiest way I can wire those 2 together in parallel so I can double my capacity on the scooter pls🙏🏼🙏🏼... I was just bringing them both fully charged with me but after watching ur video/s Im still confused on Doin it with these types of batterys...thanks alot & love the vids!
hey great video , WILL THIS WORK ON MY KAABO WOLF KING GT 72V the ato switching one. and will it drain from both batteries at the same time so I get less voltage sag
also would a simple parallel conection work if I use two 72v batteries one is 35 mah and the other is 32. Will it work with no issues
This changed my view...it gonna be handy for me. Thanks bro
How does the charge port handle a battery connected directly to it? If I look at the wires behind the charge port, they are way thinner than the cables connecting directly to the original battery. Will the extra battery load work with the charge port or is there risk of faster wear in the long term? Maybe swapping out the charge port wires to thicker gauge wire would be a good idea?
Thank you so much for this!!!!
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Its perplexing how much people use things but don't have any idea how it works or how to fix it. Down to the simplest can openers (or even the can itself). Ever since I can remember I've been taking things apart out of curiosity and fixing things. I would probably go insane if I didn't know how to fix the things around me or how they work lol.
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Cool video. It seemed pretty simple until about 4:00 in. That's okay. I'm slow. I still learned a lot anyway. Thanks!
WARNING
Most scooters do not allow operation while something is plugged into the charge port. For safety reasons obviously. Also, the charge port is meant for just that, charging. It has specs that are totally different than the operating mechanism of the scooter which is powered by the battery. Look at your charging adapter and read the specs on it. For Gotrax it’s 42v 1.5amp, you can’t just stick homemade battery pack of 37v 7amp into the charge port and say away we go! IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY AND IS VERY DANGEROUS!!!!
For most scooters charge port the best you can do is build a portable charger that you use to RECHARGE the scooter battery when it’s low. The same build principles will apply as shown in the video, however, you have to build it with specs intended to take the place of your wall charger for the sole purpose of charging not giving your ride a boost. So when planning you need the voltage on your battery build to exceed what’s stated on the charger, for example if your charger states 42v dc out, then you want your build to output around 47v. Then you have to match the amps, you can reduce the amps on your battery build by using a current limiting resistor across the pos/neg end of you battery. You use ohms law to get the proper resister value for the desired amps, I=v/r where “l” is the amps you want to achieve and “r” is the resistor value needed. So in our Gotrax example you’ll need about a 28 ohm resistor soldered across the total neg/pos end of your battery build on the output connector not the connector you’re using to charge your battery build. This will get you to the 1.5 amps needed for charging and will not damage the components on the other side of the charge port or melt any wiring inside your scooter. The reason you can’t just stick 7 amps into a port that’s only designed to accept 1.5 is obviously the wiring and circuit behind the port may not be rated to accept such a higher amp value. THIS IS HOW FIRES START!!!!
If you’re gonna do this do it right, for the safety of yourself, your family, and your neighbor. Lithium Ion batteries are NOT to played with.
Are you sure?
Your videos are so good and impressive to understand and learn from this videos
Great video, I'm sure the DIY book would be great.
For a regular ebike battery, is a common port BMS a better solution than separate port? in terms of protection
Great video keep up the good work producing fantastic content
I was really hoping to see a current regulator on this video, that would allow to plug the booster battery in regardless of the scooter battery charge percentage. Been looking for a current regulator (or limiter) for other applications as well, but I guess it doesn't come outside of the DC-DC converter package, which is also not appropriate, since DC-DC converters are either buck or boost and I'm looking for something that would do both. If someone knows different, please let the community know.
Ser I want to learn about making my own battery in my gotrax so your vedio inspired me keep up ser good bless
I have a DYU d1 36v. I’d like to use a ryobi 40v battery as a range extender. Could I put a quick connect on the original battery so I can unplug that battery when it’s low and plug in the ryobi battery?
Question... Could I build a booster battery like this for my 60v escooter (which comes with a lithium ion battery) but use a Lifepo4 battery instead? I just like the simplicity of the prismatic cells. Will doing so cause any damage to components, the original battery longevity, etc?
Is it okay to connect 2 packs that have diff capacities? I was told that I is not a good idea since the oack with the smaller capacity would drain faster and would result in an inbalance of voltage of the packs, but they say that if I wanted that setup, I should put a 3 way switch, that way I can switch in using the external pack when the internal pack is depleted. Whats your opinion on it?
Glad u gave the "before u plug in the spare battery warning" I was waiting for it
Thanks for all the great information.
I like your videos! Really interesting! Thank you
U look very genuine ...... even an stranger on the street will trust you..
Great video......i learned a lot from it.
This was great, thanks!
hello, I wonder about soft pack lithium 48v if the charging port is broken, can I charge the battery on the xt60 connector of the output the one to the sooters ontroller? are they required to charge on the charging input [laptop connector) is it difficult to splice otherwise?
hello, i been seeing some divvies online claim that you can connect 2 batteries it in parallels and even have mix voltage. like 48v and 52v . datex2 is one of that devices. can you shed some light on them? and how they doing it ? thank you
Interesting, can this be done on a Bosch Performance CX
Equipped with Bosch's top of the line Performance CX motor and 500Wh battery on a Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro Allroad 500 ebike ?
Another question...I want to build a booster battery for a 48v 14ah battery. When daisy chaining the original and booster is it important to match the voltage AND and amp hours or can the ah be slightly different ?
I have a question. I have bought your book on amazon in pdf firmate and i have a scooter having 36v battery with 4.4AH. Its does not give me a big backup. With this battery. Ican run only 10 Km nearly. I need more backup like 70 to 80km. Like commercial scooters. If i increase batteries or Amperes can it give me big backup. Waiting for Answer sir. Thanks
Just what I was looking for, Micah! Thank you!.
I'm new to all this and I have found your vids very helpful, thanks and keep it up.😎
Welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
Newbie here,I enjoy a lot of your tutorial of lithium battery hopefully I can purchase your book.bit thousand miles from your end.im satisfied with your video but I also need the book 😜 lord give me that lovely book.thanks bro