The truth about back door codes built into Electronic safe locks vs. mechanical gun safe locks
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2023
- Wayne Winton Locksmith and safe technician comments on the difference between Electronic safe locks and mechanical gun safe locks.
I highly recommend hiring a qualified, competent safe technician to change out and swap the electronic lock out for the mechanical lock and set the code for you. Much like you would hire an ASE certified mechanic to work on your vehicle, a good safe technician or locksmith can save you locking yourself out of your own safe!
Warning ⚠️ Most of the safes I open are because someone wanted to DIY and missed an important step. find a safe technician here:
www.savta.org/savta_tech.php
Or here:
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After all of this, i think the old school dial is worth while
You CAN change the MRC which I always do on e safe locks
I have safe lock with mechanical dial lock inherited from my older brother, been awhile not being used. He then show me how to open a dial safe lock. And suddenly it won’t open after three successful try (to make sure it’s still function properly). And he told me to get a new one. I told him i’ll take a chance to unlock it. And after several hours of trying and understanding how dial lock works I finally able to unlock the safe. This happens due to if I’m not wrong, wheel drifted so the number changes from the original position.
Great video. Thanks. My electronic lock is at least 20 years old…! Need to change will do
Great, great info. Thank you!
Good discussion. Having relockers go off is not fun.
Sir,
Thank you for the expert information about these safe locks. I appreciate very much that you are sharing your knowledge. One question that I have that I have not seen you address is about the mechanical locks. My safe has an SG mechanical lock. The lock came with a written procedure, from the manufacturer of the safe, that allowed me to change the code on the mechanical lock myself without the help of a locksmith. I'm just a layman, not a locksmith. I didn't take the lock apart or change any parts. The procedure for changing the code was using the dial only. Is there another code that will open this mechanical lock, that I don't know about, that can only be changed by someone, like a locksmith, that has knowledge beyond what I have?
I have a cannon 64 gun safe with the NL lock assembly can I change it to the digital pad with the back up key.
Are the master/bypass codes unique per safe, or are they the same within a group of safes or the same for all safes in a certain product line?
Mechanical is only way to go!!
Always was always will be!
Well Hell, my Canon safe I just purchased has a back door code as well not just Liberty safes.
Can a savta put a mechanical lock on a cannon and liberty safe? Thanks
What are your thoughts on the “dooms day lock” - both electronic and dial?
Question for you. I just purchased (second hand) a gun safe with an S&G dual lock. It did not come with the dial lock key. Is it worth while to purchase one? (In your opinion)
I realize that the dial lock is a secondary safeguard and not intended to be the main locking feature, just wondering how useful having that key would be.
Thx
The dial lock is designed only for a business that has the safe unlocked during the day so someone doesn't accidentally lock the safe. It doesn't add anything to security. Someone breaks in and can turn the dial, big deal. Frequently the first thing they will do is break the dial off.... Kinda like wanting to use a phone but breaking the keypad first....
@@NWLibertarian The keyed dial works quite the opposite, it functions as a day lock to lock the safe during normal business hours where access may be frequent and security requirements are low.
As for obtaining a working key for the dial lock, it's not necessary but personally I would. Not for security but for completeness - owning a lock for which you don't have the key is not something I can leave unresolved. Plus if you sell the safe, the new owner would appreciate having the combo and key to it.
Wayne, how often do you need to drill a safe to open it, and how long can the process take?
come on now you should know you can factory reset and also change the default master code.
The only safe thats safe from anyone is the safe not known the where abouts
So I guess my 23 year old S&G 6120 lock is a bit past its expiration date then... 🤠👍
Nope' your good 👍!
Be careful when changing batteries, never change batteries or codes with the door closed and locked, only work on it with the door opened and the bolts thrown! This is the most common mistake. The 6120 is quite good one.
I’m pretty confident a UL Group 1 listed S&G electronic lock doesn’t “expire” after 10 years… heck… my really really cheap electronic lock on a spare “safe” i have is now 12 yrs old and still works “just fine”.
What he is describing is his experience in dealing with many many locks over an extended time period. And what you are describing is only your personal experience with 2 locks. Lets see now experience with hundreds if not thousands of lock compared experience with 2. Get the picture?
@@dougmacqueen1679 he’s also in the business of selling you stuff whereas I’m not …
@@dougmacqueen1679 This.
WOULD YOU BUY A GUN WITH ELECTRONIC COMPUTER CHIPS IN IT??????? With this your relying on electronics with batteries and computer chips. Gun manufacturers could start putting computer chips in all their guns and create a ton of cool features. Sensors with Bullet count indicators, temperature sensors that warn when the gun is getting to hot, finger print sensors on the trigger, auto clearing malfunctions, all kinds of crazy things but You know why they don’t use Computer chips in your average firearm? Because they’re unreliable, more susceptible to damage and malfunction then mechanical designs. I feel like most people would agree to rely on a firearm that is 100% mechanical than not. So if you wouldn’t rely on electronics IN your firearm why would you rely on electronics to access your firearm???????