Safe Expert Shows How to SAFELY Store Your Silver and Gold!
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2023
- In this video, I meet with a friendly safe expert, Bill Deibert of Dependable Lock Service, and he explains how to safely store your silver. We discuss the best stacker safes for your precious metals, break down what really makes a good safe for silver and gold, and at the end I give my THREE PICKS for the best stacker safes! When it comes to properly and safely storing your silver bullion bars, silver bullion coins, and gold you need to make sure you protect your precious metals right! The best way to store your silver bullion can be a heavy, hidden, fire-resistant safe, but not all safes are good! Safely storing your silver should be a priority and Bill will help you chose the right gold and silver stacking safe for your needs and budget. Remember that when you are gold and silver stacking, the right safe can be the difference to coming home to home where your gold and silver are gone!
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Due to the recent news about Liberty safes and the company’s decision to provide known “backdoor codes” to the FBI, I will be doing a follow up with Bill and reevaluating my selections made in the video. STAY TUNED‼️
Very sad, looked to be a great option but better to find out now than later
I just seen the video that you were talking about I would never buy a Liberty Safe
I really appreciate this Yankee. I've been looking all day for solutions that don't involve over 1k. Hope a class action lawsuit comes out soon!
Thanks for doing the follow up. Looking forward to it.
It sounds like the company is adopting a far better policy regarding the protection & privacy of your safe's combination. I believe it is too little, too late. I hope the parent company, (Monomoy Capital Partners), sells Liberty off to a competitor who has values more congruent with stackers and gun owners. I'm happy to see that you are revisiting this topic, Yankee.
1st thing I learned about storing valuables is to not tell people I collect valuables
Absolutely 🤝
You literally just told the entire world
@@kevkamo6289DOH!!!!
@@kevkamo6289 wanna try again?
So... You have collectables, huh.
Put a small fire safe in the bigger safe. More fire protection and if they cut a hole in the side they still have to get in the smaller safe.
Yep! Mentioned that in my pinned comment.
That would really piss them off,I love it!!!
Great idea because then also the bigger safe doesn't have to be crazy expensive.
If the safe is a Liberty, it’ll only take them 2 calls to get them open.
@@curlymaplebandit3107 If it’s ANY SAFE MANUFACTURER. It’s just that Liberty got caught. Every safe manufacturer is doing this! Watch my latest video.
Safes are a must but you need to remember . The weakest part of any safe is the owner. One thing no safe will guard against is someone breaking in and putting a gun to your loved ones head to get you to open it. No safe in the world will protect you from that. You must consider having a firearm to defend your home.
Agreed.and keep it handy.more than one in different places is my strategy.
Just to add to that, the hypothetical guy bragging about how much stuff he has in his safe in this video might as well have no safe, because if the price is high enough, they will have no issues putting a gun to your head to open your tl-30 safe. People need to shut their yappers about safes. if people don't know it exists, they're not going to come looking for it.
Do people buy gold before guns?
Or have multiple safes
@@Fanta..... The value doesn’t even matter. Keep in mind there are people addicted to drugs that have killed people over $20. Have a firearm ready to go somewhere.
1) If you’d like pricing on any of the safes, or if you have more questions, please call Bill at his number in the description of the video!
2) I’m simply AMAZED at all the “safe experts” out there!! Wow, it seems like more people know about the ins-and-outs of safes than they do stacking gold and silver! 😂
3) Bill discussed with me off camera the idea of putting a cheap firebox INSIDE your larger safe to help further protect paper assets against fire. But I’m sure you already knew that. 😉
been doing that for years!!
What are the names specifically of the 3 safes that you put your recommendation on? I can probably just ask Bill when I call, but thought it would be useful for others too
Hi Yankee! Awesome video, I truly believe people need to keep their precious metals safe! 😎 Safe from theft, and natural disasters like fires, and floods! The only thing I don't like is there's no insurance, as I get with my professional vaulting service (depository)! Always great to hear "Made in America"!
I will and like made in America!!!!!
I have bought a vintage safe off local site when I went to Pick it up it was àlot bigger than I thought and found out it was over 1,000 lbs looks like one of the t-30 safes so now it just sits outside in the garage not being used afraid of it going through the floor would love to trade for a smaller one around 5 or 600 lbs max great video
Being a pretty paranoid guy I take safe buying pretty seriously. I'm shopping for one myself and this was quiet educational. In fact I'd say this is a video every stacker should watch. Thanks, Yankee!
so what do you do^ the last one on the video looks the best...
or buy btc
here's what they don't tell you, the irs can open your safe with a phone call,esp if its an electronic piece of dung,watched them break into my brothers safe,took his weapons and 81k in silver and gold,don't be a fool,hide your most valuable items inside a tree is better
My recommendation. First find a place to put the safe, they are big, bulky, and are usually bolted to the floor. I would only buy a spin dial lock, you don’t have to worry about batteries, and EMP will not effect it. I didn’t know what @strattuner posted, just another reason for a dial. I would recommend make sure to look at the thickness of the Metal on the door, the sides, back, and top. The thicker the metal the harder to cut. I would also recommend the concete filled, it extends the time in a fire. Mine is good for something like a hour. Also I got the salesman to throw in an electronic dehumidifier.
I've owned a safe for 30+ years. Last year I bought a liberty. Middle of the road that they offered. I ordered it online. Took 6 months to receive it. I'm extremely pleased.
I keep a small amount of valuables in it. My stack is stored in wooden boxes in a separate storage facility. Never keep all your eggs in one metal box.
@@strattuner What brand lock did it have?
I recommend having a camera on your safe at all times with motion detection turned on. If you’re away you are alerted immediately and can phone the police. Most cameras even have a speaker so you can inform the robbers that police are on the way.
Bingo!
The police have been known to access ring cameras without a warrant. Just sayin
Just hope that the police don't steal your stuff since they are shit eating tyrants
As well as an alarm system with cellular service.
Add a fire sprinkler over the safe copper or steel pipe.
I can get into a Liberty safe every time. Just call them up and tell them you are with the FBI. They'll give you the code...no tools needed.
I would really enjoy watching a lockpicking lawyer's review of these. He is my benchmark of what secure really means.
Keep it safe! Keep it out of a Liberty Safe!
This is the sort of stacking-adjacent content that I look forward to every now and again.
Great to hear! I’m trying more of it to see what people like. 👌🏼
This was one of the best videos you have done. There are other safes out there that have great ratings. I particularly liked hearing about the safes jewelers use. WOW.
Maybe more on pricing, but that might discourage your viewers from looking more deeply into it.
A quick bit of advice for people looking to purchase a safe. I have a friend who collected guns for years. His safe was to the exterior wall of the house. The thieves came in ready. They ripped the safe right out of the house using a truck. We figure is was an inside type of a job. They came prepared to specifically target that safe. Loose lips sink ships
MOSLER SCREW LOCK . The whole door is the locker. I purchased one it’s literally 1800lbs and it can barely fit a 100oz silver bar. It also has a secondary door with two keys
jewellers safes are sometimes referred to as TDR safes. torch and drill resistant.
@@Fanta.... Thank you. I'll talk with my jeweler this week
@@24kGanksta What good is a safe that can't hold anything
@@beebob1279 it’s hold my gold. You can pack A lot of moneys worth in a small area. 100oz of Gold is $200k
3 recommendations from experts when considering a safe:
1. Always get a bigger safe than you think you will need, you will fill it up eventually, trust me on this.
2. Always buy a UL-rated safe, profesional locksmiths recommend spending at least 10% of the total value of what will be stored in the safe when buying a safe, so if you are going to put 200k of PMs in the safe you should spend 20k on the safe at a minimum.
3. If you want the contents insured you will need a UL-rated TL30 X 6 safe or better.
No need to spend 20k on a safe. Go to a safe dealer and ask for a used jewelers safe. You can get a 4-5,000 pound TRTL30 or 60 for 5-10k. Concrete filled, stainless steel liner, anti drill plates, very thick steel.
UL rated RSCs are total garbage; you should clairfy which UL standard you recommend. I would recommend at least TL30 for silver.
You can get insurance for lower ratings than TL30x6. For instance a B-rating safe will usually suffice a $5000 insurance. X6 Would cover between a quarter and a half million, or even more with a burglary alarm.
Agreed RSC is worthless for PMs, I would get a TL30X6 at a minimum.@@afdgxzghzgfhgfzhazghzdfhxf
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TL30x6 is a bare minimum that American security RSC that weighed 1700lbs is trash and every liberty safe is 10x worse then that American security
Pro tip: put a big box over the safe that is labeled "Christmas decorations"
Yep!
One really good piece of advice when it comes to securing things in your house, obviously go with layers, you want this thing to be behind at least three layers, but you also don't want it on the first floor, especially if it's a heavy safe you are going to want it to be on the second floor or in the basement, but it's also really good to have a dummy safe like I do. I have one that is in plain sight and it sounds like it has some coins in it which it does, but it is filled with a lot of my electric bill statements with $30 in rolled copper-plated zinc cents
Mines in the foundation of my house behind 3 different layers of locks an bars take a bomb to get into it lol
Unless it weigh a thousand pounds
@@darioperez5084 well one layer would be it being underground and another layer would be whatever you have in front of it
I also have my stack split up into different areas on off-site so if people didn't have the time to dig out one of them they would only get a small portion of my stack. It is kind of sort of an obvious place but it is well hidden and again if they found it that one doesn't have that much in it
I was just going to post I have 2 safes, right now I’m just using one, my gun safe is big and noticeable, I plan on mounting a safe in the closet once I finish remodeling. I will split the valuables up a little here a little there, and hopefully they will spend all of their time trying to get into thee big gun safe. I have the gun safe in a small niche in the office, that makes it virtually impossible to cut into the sides, and difficult to use a pry bar, because the door opening is next to a wall. I wanted a bigger one but the niche pocket determined the safe size.
Slap’s “Ten Rules For Storing Gold & Silver At Home” (note: the average home burglary in the US lasts just 11 minutes)
1) If using a safe, bolt it down and load it with VERY heavy weights.
2) Store some decoy/sacrificial coins/cheap jewelry in an easy-to-find location. Then hide the good stuff well.
3) Unless you use a safe, NEVER hide your stash in a bedroom or bedroom closet.
4) Same as #3, but insert “study” and “pantry”.
5) Forget hollowed-out books, fake soup cans, etc… your stack will be stolen in less than 5 minutes.
6) If using a desk, bookcase or shelf, make sure your hiding spot won’t be revealed if these are tipped over. Because they WILL be tipped over.
7) If you’ll want frequent access to your stash… don’t make access difficult (behind drywall, buried in the yard, need a sledgehammer to get to it, etc.).
8) Unless using a safe, the best spots are in plain sight and LIKELY TO BE OVERLOOKED, or they’re multi-layered (meaning you have to move this, shift that, lift this and open that in order to access your stash).
9) Make sure someone you trust (spouse, financial planner, estate attorney, etc) has a sealed “open in the event of my death” letter describing where your stash is hidden.
10) With the exception of #9 above, NEVER EVER talk about your stash or that it’s in your home!
Yeah, if you're getting a big safe or any safe, but especially given the outlay already expended on a big safe filled with things you want to keep, you build it into it's own alcove, so it doesn't worry about fire and is preferably hidden.
I like how you had to move the monster box to see if it was full.😂
IKR?!?! 😂
@@YankeeStacking I would of done the same..lol
I knew they was empty when i didn't see the shelves crashed down. Those little clips wont hold 1000 ozt !
In case no one else mentions it, you should always bolt your safe(s) to the floor. Thieves will often turn them and push them over to gain better leverage when trying to bust a safe door open.
This is what I always tell people that the safe is just as important as the stacking, and you can't cut corners here.
Liberty safes , the bud light of safes.
Still think so?
AWESOME video! It's great to have a subject matter expert explain the ins and outs of the safes.
My grandfather was a locksmith. For over forty years.I agree with this information 👊👍 thanks gentleman
I’m enjoying these types of videos where you interview and talk to people that have knowledge and experience such as Tim and this guy.
Always a pleasure Yankee , thank you sir 🤝
God bless you and your family 🙏🏼☝🏼
Very cool. Great video. Thanks for doing this sort of thing to help people understand the entire scope of collecting.
Older homes had extra bracing in the floors where the refrigerator would go. Installing a 10 cubic ft Chest freezer involved almost always putting it in the basement, because of weight. A standing safe in most homes, including modern homes, will require extra bracing in the floor.
I knew next to nothing about safes, so this was really informative. Thanks Yankee!
Excellent job. Very good advice. Was planning on getting safe this weekend. Now I know what to look for. Thanks Yankee!!
I’ve been waiting for a video like this, thank you Yankee
This was a learning experience! I had no idea safes have ratings. Another great video Yankee!🎉
Love to see more stacking Channels add videos on safes. It’s my favorite video on my channel and the least viewed since I’m a new channel. This is so important to cover.
Loved the presentation and the expert professional opinion. I'm not ready for one, but I appreciate the sensation of being able to actually be there with you and experience the safe-shopping spree with you
What a great interview Yankee. Enjoyed it.
That 350 Lbs. safe isn't bad if you have 350 lbs. silver and 100 lbs. guns and ammo. 800 lbs. isn't easy snatch and grab unless there are a bunch of guys doing it together. Bigger question: how do they know you were keeping precious metals in there, or in your home? Best security: locked lips.
Fantastic video on Safes!!!
I own a American Security safe. I welded a custom heavy steel cabinet together with a heavy door and mounted my safe inside it. Multiple layers of added steel walls is a must with these $2,000.00 safes.
Great video Yankee. Shout out two time for uncle Bill. This video was extremely informative! Thank you for all you do Yankee, God bless.
I bought a Hall’s safe in 1992 for $2200. Great refrigerator size safe!
Thank you for doing this video. Been waiting for it
I would have a structural engineering determine if you could place a 1000 lb safe sitting on your main floor (if you have a basement) or second floor. Remember that the psi on which your safe is setting is much higher than you would expect. The smaller the contact area between the floor and safe, the larger the load. In other words, you may need added supports.
My issue came up with fish tanks--not safes. I was looking into upgrading to a 75 gallon tank. Such a tank fully loaded (water, gravel, etc.) would approach 900 lbs. The contact area between the tank and floor was quite a bit greater than that of a heavy duty safe, meaning the load the floor was being subjected to would be significantly less than with a 900 lb safe. I was advised by a construction guy (not an engineer) with twenty years experience not to do so without adding additional support. He thought I would be OK without it, but any weak spots could lead to structural damage over time. He also mentioned good luck having your insurance company paying a claim for damage done due to your negligence.
Probably your best video to date. Thank you.
Wow, thanks!
Great video, what I would like to have heard more about is what models have backup keys for entry in the event that the electronic pad stops working and the technology behind the hinges on the outside of the safe (how they compare to internal hinges)...
Most good safes come with back up keys.catch is remembering where you stashed them....guilty as charged,no clue where my over ride keys are.lost in a move.🙄
Im pretty sure the outside keypad can be changed on most of these while the safe is still locked. The code and circuits are all kept in the inside. if the circuitry is dead, they will have measurements to know exactly where to drill to get it open. backup keys are a liability and generally only used as a secondary lock to create a 2 factor security (something you have, and something you know)
Or just call the FBI 😂
I truly loved this video. Thanks Yankee 👍 I really like videos for STACKERS that cover security like this one. Anything security. Hiding place tricks and so forth as well. Make more videos covering these topics if you can please.
Good video. Flashed some good AMSEC options. 🤜🤛
Refreshing and very interesting. Thanks Yankee!
Thank you gentlemen for the video.
Excellent video, so much info that I learned. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video yet again Yankee! Thank you from London!
TL 15 or 30 would give you confidence in storing your metals ……. Good video Yankee
Good information!!!
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Awesome video and equally awesome comment section with tons of other great tips
This video is great man, I’m glad you covered this topic. A good safe and tight lips are crucial. 👍
Big TL-30 safe definitely looks like it would give you plenty of space & peace of mind. Interesting video 👍🏼
Love Bill! Great guy!!!
By the best one you can find. I do believe you can write your safe off on your taxes. If your house burned down you don't wanna find all of your papers GONE and you're Gold and Silver in a giant clump. We put concrete on all sides of are Safe. Which does give it a longer fire rating. We also remove all identifying marks. Along with many other Added protections.
This is outstanding knowledge thanks !
Well done.pretty thorough.👍
Thank you Thank you ! I learned soooooo much!
Great videos allways, this one is my favorite at this point in time. Thank you. 👍🙂🇺🇲
Excellent video!
Some really great choices in safes… definitely an eye opener!!
I somestimes wonder if it's better to buy a cheap safe and leave it empty as a diversion so the thieves see it and steal it first. Meanwhile you have your gold and silver stashed in a simple shoe box hiding up in your ceiling somewhere.
I’m wondering the same myself here.
Hiding is better than using a cheap guage safe. If the steel is less than the 4ga 3/16" range, then don't even bother. A saw will eat up anything less in fewer than five minutes. For instance Liberty Safe's best safe is only 7ga steel and they get sawed though like butter.
Very informative thanks!
Bill is great. What a great video.
Great information...thank you so much!!!
outstanding content in this video Yankee
Thanks for doing this Yankee
@Yankee Stacking. A few tube safes like the kind gas stations had when Cash was even before digital credit. You can install a few of them. Stash what you never plan on selling and tile over the top. You can put them below slab in garage ect.. House blows up/ no problem..Home catches fire, no worry.. Put a few small motion detection infrared cameras with battery back up linked to cell phone as well...They even have tubes for long guns..You would be surprised how many old timers still have tube safes installed..
Thanks Yankee, you certainly gave me some more ideas on which safe to check out. Vulnerabilities of Liberty Safes was discussed at one time as far as the company providing the FBI with BACK DOOR entry, got me to thinking about other safe companies. I, like you, worry about my fire arms and stacking valuables, and need good protection from fire and theft! I really look forward to your next conversation about that subject.
Great interview 🙂
Floor safe embedded in a foot of concrete on every side except for the double steel walled door and under the floor boards under the armoire. Great video btw!
Hi Yankee. I relied on smoke and mirrors for the longest time. I knew one day I would have to get a good safe. Good post that will help your fans have a better idea on what is out there and the costs involved. This fellas prices are really good.Take care eh. A friend of a friend turned his sofa into holding 4 large fire safes you wouldn't know they were there. Sitting on it apparently you would never tell the difference. He did the same with another piece for his long gun safe. Brilliant in my thinking. I would love to see them.
Great video Yankee...
great vid! good info on safe features.
Great Video! Thanks Yankee!
Wow my friend. So interesting and informative. Makes me nervous with what I have. I recently left for 10 days but hired my daughter to stay at our house. Thanks...
Great information shared! Thank you Yankee 🤍
Very welcome! Hope it helped some. 👌
Finally a well done piece on safes for stackers. I applaud you Yankee.
Thanks!! 👌🏼
Great video, Yankee!
Very good info on the safes!
Yankee is the BEEZ KNEEZ, content is A1! Nice job Yankee 👌🏼👍🏻💯🔥🙌🏻
This was interesting! Thanks!
Good video. I have been looking and really appreciate the info…. 🇺🇸
Great video !!
Outstanding👍🏻
Very nice safes. Its a very important decision to make when protecting your valuables !
Watched it twice. Still looking but worth my time for education. Thanks Yankee!
Awesome!
Wow, very informative, thanks for posting! I worked in field sales and one of my customers showed me his collection of what looked like hundreds of safes stored in a back warehouse, all ages, mfgs, types and sizes. It was an OMG moment. His hobby was safe cracking mechanical combination locks, a “manipulator”. He never said, however I suspect he kept his valuables in one or two of the safes. OK bad guys, guess which one??? Ha ha!!!
Graffunder safes are the Cadillac of safes with a Cadillac price to match. Then you can buy a Sturdy brand safe and have it custom built. Believe it or not, Liberty, Browning, etc gun safes are pretty easy to break into with a cordless circular saw and a Diablo steel cutting blade. Literally a few minutes and the whole side of the safe can be cut open. Graffunder, Fort Knox and Sturdy brand safes can be purchased with the body made of plate steel and stainless steel cladding to greatly increase the time time required to torch open a safe. Very important to look at what gauge of steel the sfe walls are made of. Also, look at the door gap of a Graffunder or Sturdy brand safe. You can barely get a piece of paper in the door gap. The door gaps on the other safes is plenty big enough to hammer in a wedge and pry the door open within 10 minutes or so. Plenty of video documentation showing how easy they are to break into. Yes, you'll pay more for a quality safe but getting by with a cheaper quality safe only gives you the ILLUSION of protection. I know it seems like I'm hyping three safe brands but do your homework. There are some really videos at the Sturdy Safe CZcams site that show how incredibly easy it is to break into the Big Box brands of safes. Finally, my personal preference is a safe with 2 S&G mechanical safe dials. Like buying a car. There's a ton of options for how to have your safe built so choose wisely for your situation and you'll be very pleased with the end result. P.S. Don't forget about your perimeter security i.e. alarm systems, dogs, and layering the levels of protection just to get to your safe. Best wishes and happy stacking.
love videos on safes Yankee!! Not enough to own gold and silver you have to protect it
Awesome ! Great move Yankee
What a great video! Really glad you covered this topic, beyond interesting. To quote Spock, "fascinating!"
I have a diebold from the late 1800’s. It is heavy and the fire rating is off the chart good.
Enjoyed your safe video yankee thanks. Was wondering when a safe company/brand name would approach u to put their name out there. Hope they took care of you for your hard work👍Wish we would've got to hear atleast something about price points tho. Thanks for taking the time to educate us👌✌
Definitely give Bill a call to ask him about price points.
Your best video so far
Thanks!!
for all you future safe buyers....research and calculate up carefully how big of a safe you want...........and THEN but 2 sizes bigger because you WILL OUTGROW IT. I wish i had bought the absolute largest safe because of how i outgrew it within 2 or 3 years. other than that one thing, best purchase i ever made hands down.
Very informative video-thanks
Great video
As Realtors, my wife and I always refer folks to Bill's team after purchasing a home. Amazing team over there at Dependable Lock Service!
We always tell folks the first 2 things to change after moving into a new home are; The Locks and the toilet seats ;-).
I'm a realtor here in Texas and I'm always amazed at how dumb realtors and homeowners are to have pictures of their listings and in the closet, there it is, a picture of their safe. And that's a yes on the locks and toilet seats.
Good on You Bill. You must be a hard worker ! Tx Yankee
Great recommendation! 👌🏼
Great Video!