My dad fought as an infantryman here. He used to talk about the Panzers shells cutting through the US tanks like butter then skipping across the ground and hitting another tank. It was a slaughter. It took dad and two other guys two days to sneak back to US lines after they were overrun. Great to see this matchup!
@@roostersideburns3440 Yes, the Pershing was a definite improvement. Also the British developed a Firefly Sherman with a larger gun. Both were more of a match against the Panzer IVs and Panthers that they primarily encountered.
@@roostersideburns3440 not saying his father is wrong but the casualty rate was 7% for tankers in us army. So they were hardly the death machine veterans seem to act like. We managed to win the war so our Sherman's were doing something right
@@roostersideburns3440 At the time the US doctrine was the TDs job was to take on enemy tanks and the tanks were to take on the infantry and lighter armored vehicles with high explosive.
Imagine being a part of Rommels tank division and looking up to see an F-18 and an F-22 right before a couple of A-10's roll over the hill and remove your division from Earth.
Assuming they knew the Germans were advancing and got in the air early enough to get to the battlefield before the Germans blew threw Allied lines, yes, the A10 would be an excellent plane for this. If they had to scramble when the Germans first engaged, they'd just be the first element of the counter-attack, though...as mentioned, their top speed wouldn't get them in engagement range anywhere near soon enough. And if the Germans put up any air cover (which was ignored for this go-around), fully-laden A10s would be easy pickings for German warbirds. We've seen that be a problem in other missions GR have run.
@@AllTradesGeorge This depends on the perspective you look at things. If you fully integrate the airstrike into the defense plan, you would allow the American ground forces to retreat a certain distance, knowing you were luring the Germans into a trap. The Germans wouldn't get out of the pass alive, which would still be a victory. Basically, you'd change from a "Hold the line" strategy, as it was done historically, to an extend and encircle strategy. American armor would fall back and to the sides, creating a pocket that the Germans would drive into. The bottom of the pocket would be sealed by the airstrike. Then the American armor would close in behind them. The strategy GR portrayed here was simply augmenting the historical defense with aircraft, not actually adapting it to work with the aircraft.
@@WardenWolf valid points. This is pretty much exactly the kind of mission the A10 was designed for, only with much lighter, slower, more vulnerable tanks than the Soviet Cold-War-era armored units that were the intended targets.
Good mission. I reckon you'd get a lot of units turning around and running at the sight of those cluster munitions, rather than just driving through. Scary!
I am a combat Infantry Vet, part of the US Army's light Infantry and Stryker Infantry and also a member of a LRSD unit (airborne) at various times and places during my career. Not going to talk my combat piece. Will tell you about being a lightfighter and our Bn, 1/24 In being attached to an armored Infantry Brigade to support their tank units. While doing a train up rotation to NTC we went with them to the Yakama Training Center in WA to prepare and practice working with the armored units. We did a 72 hour defense where we spent two days digging in soot from Mt St Helen's when she blew in the 80s and dumped millions of tons of ash all over the Yakama desert...as well as a mixture of sand and granite that took forever to break with pick axes and with help from the mechanized units excavators were able to dig enough for every position to have to standard fighting position with 36 inches of overhead cover. The third day, range control came out and with the Brigade commander from the unit we were supporting and our Bn Commander and CSM inspected several of our positions to insure we were sufficient in case the artillery fell short and to the side, and that we would be protected from the aluminum dunnage that peels off of the 120mm sabot inert tank rounds. It was an impressive 0545 stand to because the enemy targets began to pop up for the artillery FOs who began dropping 155 He rounds on old cars and connex boxes. After their tanks and armored Infantry carriers came into range the tanks began opening up on moving steel targets cut to the shape of T72s. They moved pretty fast, but by two or three hits by even the inert rounds, some were knocked off their rails or refused to pop back up. Crazy how fast the tank gunners were able to locate, aquire and fire. Soon our targets began to expose themselves and we got busy shooting our 300 rounds so I was not able to see the very end of the combined arms live fire. It lasted probably 5 hours total with the artillery fire stopping around hour two, the tanks main gun stopping after an hour, then their coax 240m at the same time we finished. They rolled our exposures in waves and gave us enough to not have any live ammo left. We did another as well as attacking a trench line at NTC where we walked to the objective in phase lines of 155, 120mm mortars, 81mm mortars, then our 60mms. They stopped the assault though because as our first platoon breached the wire, the 81mm rounds had enough time to set the trench on fire and all live rounds had to be returned so the range fire department could get cleared to move onto the objective and put the fires out. It was determined that it was not safe to enter the trench until it was repaired. I miss the Army from my day.
Maybe try this again with AA fire, The desert Air force was running wild back in those days so I am sure that both sides would have AA support, also great job guys :)
Abrams would tear up the attack. The Panzers would start exploding before they were in range, and even if they get closer the main guns on the German tanks wouldn't go through the frontal armor on the M1s. You would want to position them better though, you want to be able to fire on the Germans the whole way in not just occasionally with them shielded by hills the rest of the time. You don't want to give them a chance to get close and to the side of you, then you could actually lose a few tanks.
My dad was in the artillery in the 80s. I got to see a fire mission during family day for the National Guard, we were looking past the emplacement of one of the guns. (That's quite a roar, by the way). A 155mm artillery shell, direct hit, will evaporate a tank. The armor will cave in and split, the crew will never even know they were hit. The ammunition and fuel will cook off, and then you have around 45-60 tons of scrap iron.
You should do the Battle of the Bulge, the cloud cover is what protected the German advance at the beginning of the battle and modern fighters could look through it.
I went to Army boot camp at Ft. Sill, OK. The Artillery demonstration is impressive, to the extreme!! Seeing, what looks like a (US) football lobbed over a hill then explode makes you truly respect Artillery!!
Read An Army At Dawn by Rick Atkinson for an eye opener on this overlooked theatre. From the start of Operation Torch to Kasserine and beyond there are many small battles and operations worth revisiting. One notable one being the misadventures of HMS Walney, a British ship flying a tablecloth sized Stars and Stripes, entered the port of Oran, carrying the US 3rd Btn of the6th Armored Infantry, commanded by Colonel Marshall. He was last seen throwing grenades at a French destroyer which is definitely in the spirit of the Grim Reapers.
I can't imagine going through this battle in real life. No wonder they call these guys. The greatest generation. This is warfare that was not seen before or since thankfully
It's probably already been said but the Axis victory came mostly from the multiple full speed "calvary charges" the US forces did to try to break through the pass. The better armed Panzers used their longer effective range while lining both sides of the pass & picked the Sherman's off one by one.
I know this is ancient now, but I just had to say that I got a serious Area-88 vibe from this mission. Desert sand, tank busting, rtb and crazy landing hijinks. It could have just as easily been the civil-war racked desert nation of Aslan as the North Africa of Rommel the Desert Fox. Very cool. I wonder if it would be possible to mod DCS to do some of Area-88's more iconic battles, like bombing the base protected by the 'desert fangs'? I doubt the Fangs could be modded in but then again I don't know just how deep into the core of the game the devs allow modders to get! The desert aircraft carrier from the manga and video game might be possible however!
The old M114 155mm howitzer does have a sight for direct fire... imagine being hit by that beast. Your armor doesn't matter when you are hit by a 90 pound shell with 14 pounds of Composition B.
I had an acquaintance years ago with one COL(R) Edson Raff. He was in command of the paratroopers in this. You'd have liked him, I suspect. I can remember two things he told me word for word. "I had stop riding my Harley when I turned 84. It hurt my back too much. Don't stop doing the things you love while you still can do them." And, "I spent my first few assignments in Bora Bora. Every officer should serve in Bora Bora. It's a great experience. But don't bring your wife. It's like bringing a sandwich to a picnic." He also recounted the parachute drop of Operation Torch, but I can't remember his telling word for word. He broke 'several' (I think it was five) ribs on landing. Then he donned his rucksack and marched his LGOP (Little Group of Paratroopers) 25 miles to battle.
The simple truth is the 1943 German army had no defense against modern fighter bombers and f-16s probably aren't even the best choice. A better choice would has been strike eagles and A-10s armed with hellfires and cluster bombs. Then have the A-10s finish off anything still moving with it's cannons. After watching that attack any German soldier would either give up or shit his pants. Depending on the speed of the attack they might not even hear a strike eagle until the attack by it was over. Something going super sonic wouldn't be something at the time they knew about.
Okay, if you substituted MI-A2 Abrams tanks for the American vehicles, I'm afraid there wouldn't have been any German targets left for the planes to take out.
FYI... A "Huckle" is a colloquial term for the handle on a coffin. And in the context of your friend's Doc Holiday quote, a Huckle Beare' (or hucleberry) is a person who carries your coffin.
Wouldn't it be better, if the canisters open higher to increase the spread of the bomblets? It seems they can't get enough height before each bomblet tries to scan for a target. Many explosions happend between the tanks, like they did not find a target.
Great stuff! Love your videos. Been watching a lot for the last few weeks. So much so, I find I'm waiting for the new stuff so I'm not watching ones Ive already watched. Although I've watched several of the videos several times on purpose lol. Tnanks for your content!
What I hate about videogames is that they have desensitized me to awesome views. When I was a kid things like this were only possible in my imagination. But then that's also what I love about videogames at the same time...
I think in reality a modern day battle like this would have been know about in advance by satellite surveillance which would have allowed time for planes and such to be moved into position and we probably would have had an AWACS and tanker in the air near the battle with planes hitting air bases and the column before they even got close enough for a fight.
The American 1st Army hadn't learnt how to dig proper foxholes, merely creating scrapes. As a result the German Panzer IV's crushed the American infantry with their tracks. The German armour pulled back at one point luring the US armour into an ambush. Hidden German 88's crushed the American armour in minutes. Heads rolled in the US command structure as a result. Thankfully the US Army learned its lesson. So whilst this mission was great fun you had it easy by not including the 88's. Would they have held fire to preserve the element of surprise or would they have fired at your attack? Would the 88's have stopped you if they had retaliated?
The trench bit is absolutely true. Exactly how the guys to the left of my dad were killed. Putting infantry across an open plain in tank territory with a couple 37mm anti-tank guns that the panzers found...amusing is also a terrible idea. So many mistakes by the Americans in that battle.
The abstract conceptual beauty of Damp's aircraft and loadout selection does not take away from the fact that it was best suited for killing friendly infantry in that scenario. He could have taken maybe one or two tanks out of action at most, assuming a well-placed ripple.
@@grimreapers No no no, I was talking strictly about suitability. It was an eccentric choice for the task but Mr. Sock performs safely and effectively in the vast majority of cases. I didn't see any evidence of him killing troops here but to be completely fair and scientific, it could also be that they were already dead before you got to the scene.
If I was a German infantryman seeing those CBUs go off, I'd just run, as I suspect the attack would descend into a total route within 5 minutes. Also, I now know how to teabag people in a Tomcat. Wiser today than yesterday.
Just awsome :> have follow'ed your channel for a long time and love your modern carrier vs ?? Series awsome also ound a inresting cenario today just a tip keep upp the good work =)
I'd suggest replacing the units that fought the Battle of Kassarine Pass with their 1968 desendents, armed & equipped with what they were using in 1968, M-16A1s M-60s, M-72s, & M-79s, and operating M-48 Patton tanks, & M-113 APCs. Now that would be a battle.
The Germans wouldn't stand a chance against the M-48s unless they had a large numbers advantage. Not as bad as the M1 Abrams someone else suggested but still a mismatch. Some of the other weapons or weapon systems wouldn't help quite as much. M-113s could easily be killed by the Germans. M-16s can fire faster than M1 Garands but don't penetrate armor. M60s aren't all that different from the medium machine guns the Americans did have. M72 Laws would help when the German vehicles get close but the Americans in this video were awfully exposed and even in the real battle didn't have the best cover.
@@timwf11b I'm just making a more realistic suggestion. Especially if someone was to suggest the US going into WW-2 with year "XXXX" equipment. I'd even drop to what to what was used in Korea, with the exception of the small arms, which I'd suggest early 1960s M-14/M-60 era weapons.
Watching all of this makes me wonder could 1-2 A10s (or some Warbirds with bombs) save Westerplatte rom baying overrun at the beginning of WW2. Or even better win a Battle of Wizna where 40 thousend of Germans were fighing around 900 Polish troops
If you'd used realistically modeled A-10's, there wouldn't be any vehicle columns left. I remember the infamous Highway of Death in Iraq. Those 30mm cannons would just slice right through WW2 armor like it's not even there.
US infantry were not well dug in, hoping that shell scrapes would be sufficient instead of foxholes. German drivers simply drove over a shell scrape and turned.
Should have kept your drop Tanks, sucked them dry, then dropped them on the half tracks......"Headache from above, courtesy of an F16." What damage do you think an empty tank would do from 10000 ft? (Or a half full tank and a tracer round...)
Victimizing your cpu and graphics card with 6,000,000 tiny wagnerholes is almost as inhumane as another well-known event involving similar numbers. Comment demonetized.
My dad fought as an infantryman here. He used to talk about the Panzers shells cutting through the US tanks like butter then skipping across the ground and hitting another tank. It was a slaughter. It took dad and two other guys two days to sneak back to US lines after they were overrun. Great to see this matchup!
Wow amazing!
Wasnt it later in the war when america finally developed a better tank
@@roostersideburns3440 Yes, the Pershing was a definite improvement. Also the British developed a Firefly Sherman with a larger gun. Both were more of a match against the Panzer IVs and Panthers that they primarily encountered.
@@roostersideburns3440 not saying his father is wrong but the casualty rate was 7% for tankers in us army. So they were hardly the death machine veterans seem to act like. We managed to win the war so our Sherman's were doing something right
@@roostersideburns3440 At the time the US doctrine was the TDs job was to take on enemy tanks and the tanks were to take on the infantry and lighter armored vehicles with high explosive.
Grump sticking his pitot tube into Caps face and killing him was the hardest I've laughed in a long time and is considered cinematic history.
lols
SHUFFLEBOARD W/ JETS! Have to land without gear and slide onto the scoring zone. Sunday Funday?
Imagine being a part of Rommels tank division and looking up to see an F-18 and an F-22 right before a couple of A-10's roll over the hill and remove your division from Earth.
Yep! A few A10s and Apache escorts, dead and dead!
I think this was a situation that a flight of A10's would excel in.
Assuming they knew the Germans were advancing and got in the air early enough to get to the battlefield before the Germans blew threw Allied lines, yes, the A10 would be an excellent plane for this.
If they had to scramble when the Germans first engaged, they'd just be the first element of the counter-attack, though...as mentioned, their top speed wouldn't get them in engagement range anywhere near soon enough. And if the Germans put up any air cover (which was ignored for this go-around), fully-laden A10s would be easy pickings for German warbirds. We've seen that be a problem in other missions GR have run.
@@AllTradesGeorge This depends on the perspective you look at things. If you fully integrate the airstrike into the defense plan, you would allow the American ground forces to retreat a certain distance, knowing you were luring the Germans into a trap. The Germans wouldn't get out of the pass alive, which would still be a victory. Basically, you'd change from a "Hold the line" strategy, as it was done historically, to an extend and encircle strategy. American armor would fall back and to the sides, creating a pocket that the Germans would drive into. The bottom of the pocket would be sealed by the airstrike. Then the American armor would close in behind them. The strategy GR portrayed here was simply augmenting the historical defense with aircraft, not actually adapting it to work with the aircraft.
@@WardenWolf dammit I read that "Hold the line" with Captain Kirrahe's voice from Mass Effect.
@@TeenTeenFpv Only because he arbitrarily placed the airfield 'too far away' for A10's to reach.
@@WardenWolf valid points. This is pretty much exactly the kind of mission the A10 was designed for, only with much lighter, slower, more vulnerable tanks than the Soviet Cold-War-era armored units that were the intended targets.
When the AH-64 comes out you need to revisit this scenario and use them with 4 or 5 of them to see if they could stop the attack.
This scenario with F4 Phantoms would be interesting and fun. Great vid as always, epic finish.
Good mission. I reckon you'd get a lot of units turning around and running at the sight of those cluster munitions, rather than just driving through. Scary!
Perhaps a makeshift helicopter base on the friendly side of the lines? You could do a competition between 2 sets of gunships.
Great Job, Reapers! General Patton would have been Very Happy with your performance and decorated you with medals!
I am a combat Infantry Vet, part of the US Army's light Infantry and Stryker Infantry and also a member of a LRSD unit (airborne) at various times and places during my career.
Not going to talk my combat piece.
Will tell you about being a lightfighter and our Bn, 1/24 In being attached to an armored Infantry Brigade to support their tank units. While doing a train up rotation to NTC we went with them to the Yakama Training Center in WA to prepare and practice working with the armored units. We did a 72 hour defense where we spent two days digging in soot from Mt St Helen's when she blew in the 80s and dumped millions of tons of ash all over the Yakama desert...as well as a mixture of sand and granite that took forever to break with pick axes and with help from the mechanized units excavators were able to dig enough for every position to have to standard fighting position with 36 inches of overhead cover. The third day, range control came out and with the Brigade commander from the unit we were supporting and our Bn Commander and CSM inspected several of our positions to insure we were sufficient in case the artillery fell short and to the side, and that we would be protected from the aluminum dunnage that peels off of the 120mm sabot inert tank rounds.
It was an impressive 0545 stand to because the enemy targets began to pop up for the artillery FOs who began dropping 155 He rounds on old cars and connex boxes. After their tanks and armored Infantry carriers came into range the tanks began opening up on moving steel targets cut to the shape of T72s. They moved pretty fast, but by two or three hits by even the inert rounds, some were knocked off their rails or refused to pop back up. Crazy how fast the tank gunners were able to locate, aquire and fire. Soon our targets began to expose themselves and we got busy shooting our 300 rounds so I was not able to see the very end of the combined arms live fire. It lasted probably 5 hours total with the artillery fire stopping around hour two, the tanks main gun stopping after an hour, then their coax 240m at the same time we finished. They rolled our exposures in waves and gave us enough to not have any live ammo left.
We did another as well as attacking a trench line at NTC where we walked to the objective in phase lines of 155, 120mm mortars, 81mm mortars, then our 60mms. They stopped the assault though because as our first platoon breached the wire, the 81mm rounds had enough time to set the trench on fire and all live rounds had to be returned so the range fire department could get cleared to move onto the objective and put the fires out. It was determined that it was not safe to enter the trench until it was repaired.
I miss the Army from my day.
Maybe try this again with AA fire, The desert Air force was running wild back in those days so I am sure that both sides would have AA support, also great job guys :)
lol that aa couldnt hit jets flying like that. maybe a rare shot might get lucky once in a while
I'd love to see this scenario run with Apaches when they go live since this is what the Apache is desgined for
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Remember that winwing technology is your ultimate hardware solution :) 42
Ahh that is the answer, 42
agree
I wonder if a bunch of Abrams tanks would do the same
Abrams would tear up the attack. The Panzers would start exploding before they were in range, and even if they get closer the main guns on the German tanks wouldn't go through the frontal armor on the M1s. You would want to position them better though, you want to be able to fire on the Germans the whole way in not just occasionally with them shielded by hills the rest of the time. You don't want to give them a chance to get close and to the side of you, then you could actually lose a few tanks.
A little mating going on at the end ahahahah
Thanks guys, as always entertaining :))
42:48 it’s like Valentines Day all over again.
Facts
43:03 - 43:57 was the best part for me. I couldn't stop laughing!
And that's how F-15s are born
You see, when two planes love each other very much...
My dad was in the artillery in the 80s. I got to see a fire mission during family day for the National Guard, we were looking past the emplacement of one of the guns. (That's quite a roar, by the way). A 155mm artillery shell, direct hit, will evaporate a tank. The armor will cave in and split, the crew will never even know they were hit. The ammunition and fuel will cook off, and then you have around 45-60 tons of scrap iron.
You should do the Battle of the Bulge, the cloud cover is what protected the German advance at the beginning of the battle and modern fighters could look through it.
cool
After British success in the Winter Olympics Curling maybe try Crash Land Curling. Jets vs Warbirds or something similar. Maybe even mixed teams?
"Do you want to be my Huckleberry" basically he is asking you (Cap) if you want to be his hero/champion..(this is the polite meaning)
Oh, thanks. Yes I do Damp.
I went to Army boot camp at Ft. Sill, OK. The Artillery demonstration is impressive, to the extreme!! Seeing, what looks like a (US) football lobbed over a hill then explode makes you truly respect Artillery!!
Read An Army At Dawn by Rick Atkinson for an eye opener on this overlooked theatre. From the start of Operation Torch to Kasserine and beyond there are many small battles and operations worth revisiting.
One notable one being the misadventures of HMS Walney, a British ship flying a tablecloth sized Stars and Stripes, entered the port of Oran, carrying the US 3rd Btn of the6th Armored Infantry, commanded by Colonel Marshall.
He was last seen throwing grenades at a French destroyer which is definitely in the spirit of the Grim Reapers.
I can't imagine going through this battle in real life. No wonder they call these guys. The greatest generation. This is warfare that was not seen before or since thankfully
agree
It's probably already been said but the Axis victory came mostly from the multiple full speed "calvary charges" the US forces did to try to break through the pass. The better armed Panzers used their longer effective range while lining both sides of the pass & picked the Sherman's off one by one.
43:10 how new airplanes are made.
worth staying to the end for the NC-17 plane on plane action.
Always love the vids
The Tiger at the Tank Museum that still works was captured in North Africa around this time.
I know this is ancient now, but I just had to say that I got a serious Area-88 vibe from this mission. Desert sand, tank busting, rtb and crazy landing hijinks. It could have just as easily been the civil-war racked desert nation of Aslan as the North Africa of Rommel the Desert Fox. Very cool. I wonder if it would be possible to mod DCS to do some of Area-88's more iconic battles, like bombing the base protected by the 'desert fangs'? I doubt the Fangs could be modded in but then again I don't know just how deep into the core of the game the devs allow modders to get! The desert aircraft carrier from the manga and video game might be possible however!
42:49 hilarious, get a room boys :D
I hereby petition that the "nut" button be included in all future episodes.
Dampsock's explosive climax to the mission 43:58
lol
The old M114 155mm howitzer does have a sight for direct fire... imagine being hit by that beast. Your armor doesn't matter when you are hit by a 90 pound shell with 14 pounds of Composition B.
I had an acquaintance years ago with one COL(R) Edson Raff. He was in command of the paratroopers in this. You'd have liked him, I suspect. I can remember two things he told me word for word. "I had stop riding my Harley when I turned 84. It hurt my back too much. Don't stop doing the things you love while you still can do them." And, "I spent my first few assignments in Bora Bora. Every officer should serve in Bora Bora. It's a great experience. But don't bring your wife. It's like bringing a sandwich to a picnic." He also recounted the parachute drop of Operation Torch, but I can't remember his telling word for word. He broke 'several' (I think it was five) ribs on landing. Then he donned his rucksack and marched his LGOP (Little Group of Paratroopers) 25 miles to battle.
Thanks!
Keep up the great matchups
The simple truth is the 1943 German army had no defense against modern fighter bombers and f-16s probably aren't even the best choice. A better choice would has been strike eagles and A-10s armed with hellfires and cluster bombs. Then have the A-10s finish off anything still moving with it's cannons. After watching that attack any German soldier would either give up or shit his pants. Depending on the speed of the attack they might not even hear a strike eagle until the attack by it was over. Something going super sonic wouldn't be something at the time they knew about.
Okay, if you substituted MI-A2 Abrams tanks for the American vehicles, I'm afraid there wouldn't have been any German targets left for the planes to take out.
FYI... A "Huckle" is a colloquial term for the handle on a coffin. And in the context of your friend's Doc Holiday quote, a Huckle Beare' (or hucleberry) is a person who carries your coffin.
I am carrying Damp's coffin?
@@grimreapers Well, it is a Antebellum South way of saying much what Kruschev said at the UN, "I will bury you."
YES!
Great one. Love moderning outdated armies
I would love to see a simulation of a modern US Marine amphibious expeditionary force were used in either Iwo Jima or Normandy.
How many CBU-97's would it take to remove a 40 mile convoy of trucks parked nose to tail? Asking for a friend.
That vid comes out in 2 hours. Enjoy.
@@grimreapers . That. Was. AWESOME! Thanks for the value added boom boom.
I'd love to see the Germans' reactions to seeing an F-14, which to them would seem like a UFO, gunning them down.
I would love to see this done again done with bombers can you make this happen?
PS: A 'Huckleberry' is a pallbearer (as in a person who helps carry your coffin)
General Dynamics F-16 won in competition with the Northrop F-17. Th F-17 design was sold to Mconald Douglas and ws modified to become the F-18
Wouldn't it be better, if the canisters open higher to increase the spread of the bomblets? It seems they can't get enough height before each bomblet tries to scan for a target. Many explosions happend between the tanks, like they did not find a target.
More tanks please! Is there a mod for the M4A3E8 (Sherman Easy-8) tank? I’d love to see some scenarios involving those. Thanks for your efforts
Haha. Swept wing on clipped delta action!!
Is that Tomcat equipped with a retractable hardtop option, rather than the standard canopy that only jettisons??
It was probably the model with the soft top.
But how would the battle have played out using B52s?
Also I love the game of curling at the end
😉 Great fun and amazing show!
I nearly died laughing when the two jets started making love!
Great stuff! Love your videos. Been watching a lot for the last few weeks. So much so, I find I'm waiting for the new stuff so I'm not watching ones Ive already watched. Although I've watched several of the videos several times on purpose lol. Tnanks for your content!
Thanks
What I hate about videogames is that they have desensitized me to awesome views. When I was a kid things like this were only possible in my imagination. But then that's also what I love about videogames at the same time...
43:59 - Damp came
lol
"And this is how the f-4 was born"😅😅
I think in reality a modern day battle like this would have been know about in advance by satellite surveillance which would have allowed time for planes and such to be moved into position and we probably would have had an AWACS and tanker in the air near the battle with planes hitting air bases and the column before they even got close enough for a fight.
The American 1st Army hadn't learnt how to dig proper foxholes, merely creating scrapes. As a result the German Panzer IV's crushed the American infantry with their tracks. The German armour pulled back at one point luring the US armour into an ambush. Hidden German 88's crushed the American armour in minutes. Heads rolled in the US command structure as a result. Thankfully the US Army learned its lesson. So whilst this mission was great fun you had it easy by not including the 88's. Would they have held fire to preserve the element of surprise or would they have fired at your attack? Would the 88's have stopped you if they had retaliated?
The trench bit is absolutely true. Exactly how the guys to the left of my dad were killed. Putting infantry across an open plain in tank territory with a couple 37mm anti-tank guns that the panzers found...amusing is also a terrible idea. So many mistakes by the Americans in that battle.
Great post. Thank you
@@michaeltaylor8835 I'm slightly disappointed Cap didn't give any kind of response but glad that you have.
I doubt that the 88s would have been able to stop the modern US air power. Doubt that they would even get a kill, if even a hit.
The abstract conceptual beauty of Damp's aircraft and loadout selection does not take away from the fact that it was best suited for killing friendly infantry in that scenario. He could have taken maybe one or two tanks out of action at most, assuming a well-placed ripple.
Damp is best killer of friendly infantry out there!
@@grimreapers No no no, I was talking strictly about suitability. It was an eccentric choice for the task but Mr. Sock performs safely and effectively in the vast majority of cases. I didn't see any evidence of him killing troops here but to be completely fair and scientific, it could also be that they were already dead before you got to the scene.
At least you didn't get any bank angle in your sink rate.
Hmm, let's see, what would be created by crossing an F14 with an F16? An F35?
If I was a German infantryman seeing those CBUs go off, I'd just run, as I suspect the attack would descend into a total route within 5 minutes.
Also, I now know how to teabag people in a Tomcat. Wiser today than yesterday.
A couple of A-10's in the group would have got there later, but they'd have been great for cleanup ops.
My grandfather was a pilot during that fight and he told me that...
Yep, we got our butts handed to us. Luckily we learned.
Can we please get mission download links for these?
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I think you need Apache and Huey Gunship for this mission. Much more effective.
I am in the officers club criticizing the celebration of success, knowing the plan was flawed
@ 29:44 i know that guy his name is helmut
Damp is grumps father. Change my mind
+1
At this point you think the Germanies would turn around and run!
Given what we saw in the Iraq "Highway of Death", I'm going with "yes it would"
It's a bummer than my landings always go through the ground on your vids Cap, I swear there much smoother than that for me lol
It's the latency, you are in USA. You should see Australians landing, completely disappear.
*screams Wagner and shakes fists in anger
I just want to share my super sexy landings with the valued viewers lol
I'd suggest replacing the units that fought the Battle of Kassarine Pass with their 1968 desendents, armed & equipped with what they were using in 1968, M-16A1s M-60s, M-72s, & M-79s, and operating M-48 Patton tanks, & M-113 APCs. Now that would be a battle.
The Germans wouldn't stand a chance against the M-48s unless they had a large numbers advantage. Not as bad as the M1 Abrams someone else suggested but still a mismatch. Some of the other weapons or weapon systems wouldn't help quite as much. M-113s could easily be killed by the Germans. M-16s can fire faster than M1 Garands but don't penetrate armor. M60s aren't all that different from the medium machine guns the Americans did have. M72 Laws would help when the German vehicles get close but the Americans in this video were awfully exposed and even in the real battle didn't have the best cover.
@@timwf11b I'm just making a more realistic suggestion. Especially if someone was to suggest the US going into WW-2 with year "XXXX" equipment. I'd even drop to what to what was used in Korea, with the exception of the small arms, which I'd suggest early 1960s M-14/M-60 era weapons.
Watching all of this makes me wonder could 1-2 A10s (or some Warbirds with bombs) save Westerplatte rom baying overrun at the beginning of WW2.
Or even better win a Battle of Wizna where 40 thousend of Germans were fighing around 900 Polish troops
The reaper's stuck that right up their Khyber Pass
lol
*interesting vid, liked & Subcribed!!!*
Welcome Sir
Germans must have been terrified
I don't think any WW2 tank could fire on the move and hit anything but dirt, but well, we have to work with what we got :)
Awesome battle guys 🙌
Awesome scenario
If you'd used realistically modeled A-10's, there wouldn't be any vehicle columns left. I remember the infamous Highway of Death in Iraq. Those 30mm cannons would just slice right through WW2 armor like it's not even there.
Any modern canon can pen the upper part of a pz4.
So did Damp have an "ejectulation" all over Cap? It was glorious! Anybody got a cigarette?
eek guey
24:41 who tha f needs a roof anyway
Is this some sorta new
_thunderbirds no gear havin Fancy Landing Break From Hell?_
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Patton? ... God help us!
A year later, but how about doing this simulation again and use the Strike Eagles?
How do I find this exact video but on twitch? I'm trying to get a higher quality video (not so compressed)
It's there but not sure how to find it sorry :(
Kiev called. Are you available on the 25th?
lol
US infantry were not well dug in, hoping that shell scrapes would be sufficient instead of foxholes. German drivers simply drove over a shell scrape and turned.
Good vid Cap!
its kind of like curling with aircraft..... or shuffleboard !!!!
Could this be redone with more modern tanks
Should have kept your drop Tanks, sucked them dry, then dropped them on the half tracks......"Headache from above, courtesy of an F16." What damage do you think an empty tank would do from 10000 ft? (Or a half full tank and a tracer round...)
Victimizing your cpu and graphics card with 6,000,000 tiny wagnerholes is almost as inhumane as another well-known event involving similar numbers. Comment demonetized.
Fully demonetised.
Hello, valid viewer here
I know its not DCS, but could you guys take a look at Tiny Combat Arena someday and perhaps give your opinions on it? Thanks.
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