These 343 Fanboys Are Out of Control
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- The thumbnails he used from me have since been removed and there has been some dialogue. We fundamentally disagree on things but that's OK. Seems to be a peaceful resolution. Perhaps I will talk about a Halo game I actually liked soon lol.
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Fanboys feel strongly about a game, but don't understand that your allegiance should be to the FRANCHISE...the IP. Not the individual games, that's just mega cope and doesn't help the overall franchise that much. It allows us to keep accepting poor games from a company who hasn't launched a single consistent successful Halo title. If you are a Halo fan, you should NOT be a 343 fan. The two can't be divorced. The worst part about HI, is many of the changes meant to make money...weren't even successful in the end. So the entire "crappy" part of the game, the monetization and how its built around it, wasn't even successful in the end anyway.
Thanks for checking my video out. Great to see you here.
Yeah the monetization absolutely kills it for me. Even if they fixed the SBMM and added more content I don't think I could ever really enjoy HI.
It just all feels too scummy.
@@BrokenCircle1 Infinite is just a fundamentally flawed game with all of the mtx and sbmm. As long as features like these are present Infinite will never be on par with the likes of Halo 3 or Reach.
@@Neoniq41 True.
@@BrokenCircle1 are they the guys putting you down for making the odd reference? Just be glad you didn't say you liked iron warriors more than Ultramarines, or you'd have had the whole fanboy hive on your tail!
@@nerdSlayerstudioss you're not our parent🤣
I’m so tired of DEI woke gaming companies. It’s one of the biggest detriments to modern game development.
Also, it was really cool to see some Halo Wars footage in there!
@@TaiidanOnslaught Yeah I love the original Halo Wars.
Mindless Synthetic Man fanboy
It's funny how they'll claim that the only reason why there is so much negativity around Halo because of the fans or youtubers chasing a trend.
Apparently, it has nothing to do with 343 fumbling with franchise for over 10 years. What, should we all be singing praises at 343i for adding features to Infinite that should've been there at launch?
There's a reason these "hate-train" videos gain traction. People at large are frustrated or disappointed at the current state of the franchise. When people who usually don't cover Halo end up voicing their opinion on the situation their sentiment is almost always "Halo used to be good. It's a shame that it turned out like this." Halo used to be a cultural juggernaut for gaming and now it's reduced to nothing but another mediocre drop in the bucket.
Yeah it is kind of funny. Most people who get mad at my videos obviously don't look at the rest of my channel or even watch much of the video they're mad at.
To these people, making constant videos going over 343's continuous issues is just a trend and meaningless, but CZcamsrs who make weekly "Halo Infinite is back" "Halo Infinite is good now" videos are perfectly fine.
Yeah pretty much. Then I find it funny how some will claim both me and them are somehow opposite extremes. I don't see anything extreme about what I'm saying at all.
Fact of the matter is if you did the crap 343 does in any other industry you'd be out the door almost instantly. @@Freelancer837
I keep forgetting that most of the 343 fanboys are either little kids or people that never got to experience the glory days of Halo, its obvious they are going to defend 343s "halos" to death because thats all they got to know, they have no idea what it was like back then, most of them werent even born during the ce days...
fanboys are the real ones killing gaming
I told them that and they refused to listen, it's them the consumer that's keeping it alive..
Dude, I just want people to understand where I'm coming from. I don't agree with what 343 does, I don't like the fact they hired a guy from EA who only cares about money, but what I don't understand is why people won't give Halo Infinite a chance by using third party modding tools, which was originally how people would mod MCC on PC.
The ones buying the micro transaction skins… CAT EARS? What ACTUAL BETA ANIME nerds
@@Road_Splat_Jak yea just like with rockstar fanboys that still buy shark cards. Why would they need to make anything good if you got people like this giving them money.
@@BaxterAndLunala back in my day we didnt need mods to enjoy halo.
343 somehow always gets a pass. Yet if this was a Bethesda or EA game you'd never hear the end of how awful it is, but because it's 343 suddenly we need to just shut up and be grateful.
YES that is exactly what I'm saying. When EA or any other company does something bad it should be called out and it is, like you said we never hear the end of it but 343 does it and it doesn't even get addressed half the time and when it does the person speaking out about it gets shut down almost immediately.
The entitlement in this generation is crazy..
Uhhhh dude? People still shit talk bethesda. People still shit talk redfall and arkane. People still shit talk Bethesda making starfield instead of ES6. People still shit talk battlefield 2042,and v and hardline. People STLL shit talk EA basically killing the titanfall universe by milking apex legends
343i is very clearly isn't getting a pass and haven't gotten one over the past decade.
@@atlien1988 Tell that to the 343 defenders my dude.
It just feels like in the modern day everyone is so thirsty they accept piss as water and chug it while asking for more. Just pure sophistry.
That had me laughing in a good way. Thanks for the laugh and watching. Good point.
Yeah it's the same with the anime industry, whenever a anime is just pure shit and i talk about it people just tell me to "turn my brain off" this society is just filled with brain rot.
Yes this is very true unfortunately. @@Road_Splat_Jak
@@Road_Splat_Jak oh man thats frustrating. I finished attack on titan few weeks ago. Least up to date. And no other anime feels interesting anymore 😅 you have any recommendations for something deep and makes you think?
@@deademcee Mushoku Tensei, erased, Death Note, Paranoia Agent, Code Geass, Link Click, Tokyo Revengers, and to your eternity.
Screw that guy. Infinite is bad. The Teen rating and lack of blood and the whole multi-player money grab kills the series
Thanks for watching. Yeah Infinite kinda sucks.
Not only that but the Campaign and sandbox is piss poor at worst and lackluster at best. Theater is still broken to a degree. And all the other missing and cut content
@@PackHunter117 The sandbox is near non existent. Its a shame...all the content and potential they had. In one part of Infinites campaign there's even a marauder from HW2 but its destroyed and you can't use it...its like they were teasing it but never released it.
@@BrokenCircle1 Actually I think it’s been confirmed to be the Banished Skiff from the Mega Construx toys that 343 originally said was gonna be in the game but you couldn’t drive it like the Covenant Shadow from Halo 2. There’s audio logs that mention Banished Skiffs I think. That alongside many things like Scarabs and wildlife like the horned Crusher beast looked sick.
@@BrokenCircle1 how come nobody complained about the lack of blood in campaign btw?
If Halo has been terrible for a decade, i put the blame on these people, its just impressive, they remove core features that EVERY HALO GAME PREVIOUSLY had day one on launch, they decided to implement them a year later, and i have to be grateful, the BENEVOLENCE of 343 knows no bound, they remove the feature, took years to re-implement, and that means that they're hearing us guys, they truly are not appreciated enough, Halo Infinite is going to be save when X update is release guys, its going to be like FFXIV or NMS.
The copium is so ingrain into the culture of Halo as a whole these days that for me, i hold 0 hope for the future of this franchise, when is related to 343 it was good while lasted, but its just fucking sad to see a franchise that you cherished for years been used like this, but what do i know, apparently i'm not a "true" fan.
Yeah I feel the same way. I find it comical that people are still crying 'wait for firefight'...I mean firefight? A sub gamemode of Halo that was always secondary to everything else coming a year and a half maybe two at this rate is not going to save Halo or make the game that much better.
Even if it somehow did its still too little too late. Like I've been waiting for my pizza delivery for four hours. I gave up at this point, ate a sandwhich, and went to bed.
Not only that but it's a Forgeble Game mode now which would have been cool at launch but it just means that Firefight maps will just be some dudes Forge creation and not Developer made it's lazy 343i has no vision and no plans!
This perfectly describes the state of things. Toxic positivity of ubernick is killing halo. How dare the paying customer demand quality, content rich products...
It might sound hyperbolic, but I'm actually disgusted when I look at tweets where people unironically praise 343 for something like giving put a free armor coating.
Wow, fantastic, they are giving out the color brown, that totally makes up for cancelling spilt screen and taking a year to be able to just replay missions in campaign.
Or the fact they removed practically all color customization and put it behind a paywall...
one of the armor coatings they added was almost the exact fucking same as the default orange armor coating but the grey is slightly brighter
Imagine still trying to be a cheerleader for a company that’s released a game STILL with less content than a game that came out in 2007
Bingo!
Pretty sure Infinite does have more content than Halo 3 though.
@@ryan_1099 A large chunk of which had to be community made.
@@ryan_1099Nope
Not only are the community making the maps at this point, even the recent "dev made" maps aren't even made by 343.
"Forest" and "Catalyst" were both made by SperaSoft a completely separate company contracted to make maps for Infinite. They also made alot of the character animations for Infinite's campaign too.
That I did not know. Thanks for telling me.
Huh that explains why they a much better than the other maps
That company also did stuff for COD, Fallout, Assassins creed, DeadSpace, RS Siege, Battlefront. So it's hardly uncommon for larger studios to hire small dev teams to help out on larger projects.
You know that Bungie did the same with the trilogy right? This is how game development works lol.
I always find it funny how these people complain about the quality of AAA games being made today, but yet still choose to defend AAA developer's incompetence, while ignoring that is the very reason that countless unfinished/broken games are still being made. People's expectations for good games have become so low that devs have figured how to use this to their advantage. These broken/unfinished games are made intentionally so devs could then fix the game/drip feed content and overtime people will praise them for minor additions. I don't think fixing your game or drip feeding content should be meet with praise. The only way this will stop is if people voted with their wallets and mass boycotted these unfinished/broken games (even if the devs fixed them).
Yes. I have read that alot of these companies have literal psychologists that teach them how to manipulate their audiences. Its scummy especially considering alot of the people playing Halo nowadays are minors.
@@BrokenCircle1 I think that alone has to be the scariest part of the gaming industry (and pretty much any industry), they have managed to manipulate a generation of children that spending hundreds of dollars on skins/in-game items is normal. It all comes from the fact that minors are the easiest to manipulate, especially because the majority of them don't have a solid understanding of the value of money.
@@justsomehalofan4386 Yet people act like I'm crazy when I bring that up.
I mean, we really can't blame DICE for Battlefield's problems. The real problems with Battlefield are the fact that EA micromanages their games in development. One example is the fact that a skeleton crew was left to fix the bugs and technical issues of Battlefield 2042. As for Pokemon though, what did everyone expect out of Scarlet and Violet? It was their first outing into making a fully open world Pokemon game, you had to have seen that coming, I easily saw it from a mile away. And in the defense of Game Freak, they are still releasing bug fixes for the games, so that's something.
@@BaxterAndLunalanope, when they screw up a few games in a row it's not the publisher.
It’s amazing that the fan boys call the addition of standard features from two decades ago a win…this is the problem, goal posts have been moved by so much. And for those reading this Infinite is still light years from fixed. Please enlighten yourself go play the level in campaign that the pelican get shot down in and take a good look at that after the cutscene.
Also the bozo claiming that infinite works fine is bold. I know two friends of mine that have 4 year old rigs that were $2800 when new and they cannot play Infinite it just won’t run.
And the opinion on Halo 5 is such a glass half empty argument. Up until infinite came out H5 was looked at like trash.
It's the fact that part 343i's and part Microsoft's management are catering to people who are acceptant of giving 343i too many chances to learn from their failures. We never saw 343i show any signs of improvement to not making those kinds of failures ever again from H4 and H5 for example. There should be no excuse for this kind of behavior.
I know this sounds really negative, but that is the truth of it all of us as true halo fans that have been a fan since halo: CE and know about the notorious history of 343i have an entitlement to be upset with 343i's and Microsoft's management leadership not doing anything about it. At this point, if we're being ignored, I would move onto another game and company that values it's players and most importantly listening to negative and positive feedback the proper way.
Thanks for watching!
Don't forget that 343 only fixed MCC because Halo Online aka El Dewrito made them look like dogshit.
I got El Dewrito the night before it got DMCA'd and it WORKED unlike MCC.
Well of course mint clitz and ubershill are going to praise the crap out of gaylo shitfinite, because their channels are entirely latched onto the game. If that ship sinks, so will their channels.
I second this^
Gotta agree, it always the fanboys without critical thinking skills which allow lazy developers to do the bear minimum.
Thanks for watching! Always good to see you here.
Well most of them are kids i think, wanting those crappy skins and the CZcamsr in the vid he was talking about is the equivalent to ninja from fortnite just on halo it's truly disgusting.
They are in denial. It is the same thing with the Disney Star Wars defenders.
The parallels are insane. And funny thing is in both cases the people defending the trash don’t actually care nor play or watch what they defend.
I mean…I still like infinite and hate the new Star Wars movie…
I am tired of having to accept the sub par standard for modern games as the new gold standard and these people online who do nothing but defend the companies and devs who seemingly go out to say that we should be greatfull that this company even put a game together for us. Why do these people keep defending these games, devs, and or companies? I do not understand. Do they really want a paycheck from the companyover a better game or games? How can they say that they really like a game when they are willing to sell their opinions and beliefs?
My thing is some youtubers out there (I wont name names because he gets really salty and leaves hate comments on tiny channels when they call him out) will drastically shift their view depending on what is trendy.
There is one guy I watched when he was near as small as me many years ago. He constantly trashed 343 and the like. Then he went to praising them all the time, then he went back to trashing them, then to praising them, and now he...well I wont say what else because A I don't think I can say some of the activities he partakes in on CZcams and B it will give it away.
343 tried way too hard to 'reinvent' Halo. Also the gaming industry as a whole has been beaten to shit. The top 5 games are BR games and all play the same with different looks and styles. Halo Infinite was drowning in issues and the community was like "aDd BaTtle RoYalE mAn"
Halo's focus should be on MCC. And mods. Some mods are already accessible for both Xbox and PC. But more advanced mods that requires downloads are all off limits for both. Thats dumb asf
Why is it so hard to design the browser like gmod so optionally, when you join a select server on pc that uses mods, you download those specific mods that the server uses. Adding mods has been available for years and 343 hasnt done anything with any mods that arent their own
I dont know much about all the specific requirements but I know theres a lot of possibilities that could help spark interest in Halo on MCC, and 343's browser was a good idea, but they seemed to have given up after that
Mods arent just dumb ass and sometimes cool fan additions, theyre a means to reforge Halos playstyle and abilities in our own image. Back in the day modding wasnt as popular/accessible because Halo was good enough to be enjoyed as is. Now we need that freedom to make changes and sponsor new ideas so the lead studio can see whats popular and whats more important
That is a very good point the gmod thing. Trying to organize gamenights with mods is such a hassle.
I got a lot of hate for my comment on that video for essentially saying what you're saying. Thanks for being the voice of reason here Circle.
Thank you for being the same. I think its funny how most all of these fanboys arguments is 'no you're the shill!' or 'you aren't a true halo fan'
True NPCs is what these people are.
@@BrokenCircle1 I'm convinced it's an age gap thing. I'm in my 30s and remember when a new Halo launched every 3 years, content complete, with everything unlockable from the get-go. Zoomers just love having garbage shovel fed to them I guess.
@@Aether-Entropy Yeah I was thinking the same thing. In my mid 20s myself and I remember the same. Its like these kids really have little to no idea where we all came from when it comes to video games.
They've been indoctrinated. Companies hire literal psychologists to tell them how to do it too which is really unethical if you ask me.
CZcamsrs: Criticize 343s incompetence
343 Fans: uhm actually shut up and give them Yur $ ☝️🤓
Gonna be honest, I'm one of the few Bungie fanboys who actually likes Halo 5. I always did, it's gameplay was something that really spoke to me, but I still recognised that it was a failure of a Halo game. The story is something that makes me want to strangle someone to this day and 343 just kept making it worse as time went one (remember original Community Breakout?), but that doesn't change the fact I seriously did have fun with it, even if I never paid a single microtransaction. Most of the sentiment I see with people liking Halo 5 retroactively is because it was a complete package that offered a genuine multiplayer experience. Even if it was an abysmal Halo product, it was still a good game based on it's gameplay. Not great or excellent, like previous Halo titles, but it was alright.
I play games mostly for the gameplay, so if liking Halo 5 is wrong for that, I'll happily die on that hill. That said, I still admonished the fuck out of 343 for it, though.
1000% nothing wrong with that. Halo 5 for me was a steaming pile of trash with the only redeeming quality being Warzone which I have stated in previous video felt like a true evolution of what Halo should have been however it was ruined by microtransactions.
Regardless of my thoughts on the game to each their own. It's totally OK that you enjoyed something I didn't.
Based take. Thanks for watching.
my problem is that 343 now is not the same 343 that released mcc and infinite. I do agree with a lot of what people say that the old 343 staff did ruin halo yes I know that. But now you can clearly see the new staff and management are turning things around, also one thing a lot of these videos do is live in the past which I understand why because u wanted things to be right then. I also wanted that. This trend has popped back up recently on how halo infinite is dead but with overall playercount hitting over 26k this month its far from dead in my opinion whilst it was very close to death especially from season 1 to season 3. Whilst the game might not run good for u it runs almost perfect for me, rarely had crashes I've had almost 0 bugs my only issue is connectivity issues here and there. I did laugh when u said it was sad for putting 2k hours into apex lol thats true . In no means am I here to cancel any 1 lets get that straight. I'm a very chill guy who likes gaming i usually don't do commentary videos and honestly I respect your opinion and I agree taking a walk in woods might be the best option and for the next time I wont use your thumbnails ....
OK. I didn't expect a response and if I got one I didn't expect it to be civil. I respect this.
I am genuinely curious. The thumbnails for the videos you used...did you watch those videos? Because in the 'Why its the end for Halo' one I explain logically why I think things are going to go downhill. Also it was made 2+ months ago before some new info was known but I still think it has good points. It highlights the writing on the wall. I even say they may make more games but it isn't the same sadly and is rapidly losing touch and quality.
The other one about 343 hating Halo and its fans points out that alot of the people that act unprofessionally and belligerent towards the Halo community that disagrees with them still work at 343. They haven't left. And with this video I pointed out how the focus of the new head doesn't seem to be on Halo or gaming at all it seems more focused on identity politics. I get why you may not want to touch that last topic but all I'm saying is that the evidence in the right direction to me seems minimal while evidence in the wrong direction seems overwhelming.
I ask if you watched them because I don't see how you could get the idea that videos like that are irrelevant. The reason I mention alot of old stuff is partly to fill those in who aren't in the loop and because I don't think those things should be forgotten. To sort of recap, to see how we got here. In fact I did another video about a year ago where I spend a good amount of it calling out Bungie for stuff they did in 2009...just to keep people up to date so to say.
Infinite has improved drastically from launch. But as I said here compared to what? I don't know I've watched Halo fall apart for a decade constantly saying 'just wait for one more update'. I was a 343 fanboy during Halo 4. I gave Halo 5 more than enough chances and I tried so hard with Infinite.
I don't know. Saying you aren't out to cancel people when also titling your video 'this trend needs to be stopped' gives a misleading impression hence why I titled mine the way I did.
As I told another commenter maybe one day (hopefully) all I say about no hope will be proven wrong. Perhaps the next Halo game will have loads of cool new features. Admittedly part of the issue is I think Halo struggles to find what it even is. I did a video a while ago talking about what I'd like to see which is very different from what others might want to see and really the community is so fractured its hard to please everyone but 343 tries to do that sometimes and it just doesn't work.
I think I said here Warzone in Halo 5 was a cool idea. In fact if we had Warzone with a more classic art style, a bit more/bigger maps and no microtransactions I wouldn't have minded seeing a main Halo game like that. The lack of content there and the MTX ruined that for me. Still to this day hate H5s campaign and regular multiplayer though. But that's just me.
Well I'll leave you be and not leave any more walls of text then. Thanks for the civility.
@@BrokenCircle1 I had only watched bits and pieces of both of them as the were linked to me but I have changed the thumbnails from yours in no way was I trying to get any 1 to give hate towards u or anything like that. your thumbnails came up first when I searched for the halo infinite is dead so I just used your ones that was my mistake I should have spent more time watching the rest of them videos before doing so that's my mistake. I also hate halo 5 campaigns but I did enjoy some stuff it gave us , as u said warzone was a pretty good game mode would be cool to see that re introduced to halo down the line. I always show respect to people who show it to me and even though you made this video about me you still showed me respect so that's all that matters.
@@shesaidshewaslvl18 *sigh* It's been a long week.
I appreciate it I really do. You have no idea. Keep making your videos as I said. I wish you the best of luck in your channel.
@@BrokenCircle1 I enjoyed this chat honestly, keep your video up aswell as its kind of a healthy conversation/debate. same to you man keep doing what your doing.
Also for the new armor for Halo 3 you can turn off skins and armor with a toggle. Without the Digsite team at 343 we wouldn’t get all the unreleased Halo CE-Reach content.
Aren't the Digsite team just a group of modders 343 gave the go ahead to?
As for the new armor that's the thing...some of it I don't mind like the Bungie era SPI armor (I don't care what they renamed it I'm calling it SPI) but the Skyrim armors I'll call them and the power rangers stuff no...that should be toggleable by theme maybe.
@@BrokenCircle1That’s very true. They should add more toggles. I love the H2A Orion armor though
@@PackHunter117 Is that the one that is the CE Macworld armor? I love that one too!
@@BrokenCircle1 Yes that one. The one from the Digsite cut Halo CE content.
Comment 265, everyone at 343 needs to be replace
It's OK to like Halo Infinite, but still be acutely aware that halo was once a much better franchise and that is because of 343
Exactly.
I love how ShitHaloSays posted this video in their echo chamber of a subreddit.
Ah so that makes sense why I suddenly got loads of dislikes. Gotta love the people calling me toxic actively go out of their way to share my video just to downvote it. Ironic.
Too many 343 fanboys
Agreed.
How 343 even has fanboys is beyond me.
I just watched that video a few hours before yours.
I usually try not to engage in the labeling game, calling people fanboys or stans, cause I feel like it breeds toxicity and division.
But besides that, I agree with what you've said.
Yeah I get that, I was hesitant at first as well but I guess I'm just so fed up with it. The last Halo video I did several people literally advocated I be cancelled then deleted their comments when they got backlash so I guess I'm just fed up.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment.
@@BrokenCircle1 I understand, and I wasn't just saying you were the only one at fault for doing it. I've seen it happen on the flip side of things, and I've been guilty of it myself.
I know what you mean in regards to being fed up with it all, which is why I'm leaving you a like. Great work! Also, here's a comment I left on another channel a week ago:
"Well said bro. This game missed the mark big time. It's actually quite alarming to see the number of people who'd rather lower their own standards to enjoy a mismanaged incomplete game rather than put their foot down and say enough is enough to these studios.
You can't even get it thru peoples heads, which is the most frustrating part. Having to walk on eggshell as to not come off as antagonistic simply for telling people that we deserved better. Like, I never thought that having standards for a franchise with over 2 decades worth of precedent, having the studio overhype and under-deliver the latest title, and being told by fellow fans of said franchise that my critisms are invalid and that I must lower my standards to make up for the studio's inability to deliver what's been the status quo for 2 decades, and reacting negatively to my inability to voice concerns makes me a hater of a franchise that I've loved for years.
But here we are..."
@@samuelgiroux6819 Well thanks for the kind words. It's all just very frustrating like you said. Well said, very well said.
Finally, someone who gets me. I don't agree with 343 doing what they do, but I feel like a game with ways for the community to make content (like PlanetSide 2) should be given a chance.
@@BrokenCircle1You were literally talking about me. I'm sorry about the cancellation part, but I get really worked up about games I like. I just want people to see that I'm not against people's opinions, I just think that Halo Infinite should at least be given a chance by many.
You was talking the truth. 343 fans boys are a literal tumor on Halo like 343 themselves, speak the truth and never forget their wrong doings to us.
Ma dude bungie fans are worse that 343 fans, bungie fans are the real cancer
@@normal-use7628 Halo was never good anyway
@@ShadowToto-c8h We all are entitled to an opinion, and some of those opinions can be wrong. Yours is an example of that.
@@normal-use7628 typical Bungie/343 fanboy
@@ShadowToto-c8h expressing emotions towards me does nothing. If you're mad, be mad at their successful games. 🤷♂️
i Agree we shouldn't even give this dude the attention he wants, he's obviously gotta be a troll to kiss their boots this much or he's just looking for a reason to say how toxic we are. i really have no idea why these fanboys are fighting the criticism so hard for less content and bad halo tittles. this is why i say they are trolls because the more they defend 343 the quicker halo will die faster as if they want it to happen.
I don't think they're trolls necessarily I do think its ironic that they call me toxic when all I do is make videos expressing my opinion.
I have never advocated for anyone else to be shut down, silenced, or to stop making a certain kind of content. As I said I don't like the pro 343 videos or videos propping up Halo Infinite as some amazing finished game when it isn't and even the improvements made in my eyes are too little too late but I don't go to those videos and leave nasty comments.
Perhaps I will make a video one day addressing that. Thanks for watching.
Bro fr i was on xbox posts a few days ago and they deny everything that's wrong with the game and say that they added so much the "shills" 😂 really are unhinged.
OMG THEY ADDED ONE NEW GUN IN 2 YEARS THIS IS THE BEST STATE OF THE GAME YET !@!!!!!
Lol yeah. If only we had the Spartan Laser, SAW, Railgun, Sticky Det, Concusion Rifle, Plasma Rifle, Beam Rifle, FRG, etc.
@BrokenCircle1 343 reminds me of that SpongeBob episode with the magic conch shell 🐚 . Every time they pull it, they say "maybe one day" for everything missing in the halo game .... Also, don't forget that when this game came out, mtf said because of covid and wait, they will add it they said they will YoUr NoT A G@mE DeVeloPEr!!!.. ik shit when I see shit covered in fake gold
The DMR, the gun that absolutely no one wanted.
It's been over a decade without the plasma rifle.
It’s honestly sad no elite no invasions no flood game mode or enemy’s no real updates or maps honestly modders and community should be hired instead of letting 343 ruin halo
Yeah we've only been asking for playable elites for what 12 years?
@@BrokenCircle1 “we know what players want” my ass they didn’t even understand anything these past 12 or 10 years so crippling and paralyzing to see the franchise end like this 😪😪😪
The only positive thing 343 did was partially fix the mcc and do mod support. Halo is in the fans hands now.
Really the only Halo CZcamsr that probably is paid by 343 is UberNick. Also I would agree that there are some Halo channels do feed off the hate however I wouldn’t say all of them do and I wouldn’t add you to that camp.
I know for a fact there are more than that that get paid and or are sponsored for events getting free rooms, accommodations, plane tickets etc.
But yes there are some emphasis on some people that do just get angry at anything and everything. I can admit and I have made videos about how mod support is cool and the like.
@@BrokenCircle1 Ok what other channels?
@@PackHunter117 Off the top of my head I cannot remember many because I unsubbed from them when they got all shilly.
Though Mint Blitz is one. His description literally say he's a partnered Halo youtuber. 343 has a program called partners or something I believe then they have another one as well I forget the name of it though.
@@PackHunter117Ubernick is part of the Forerunner counsel. 343 call these guys "Forerunners" because they got invited by them to check out Halo Infinite and got a free battle pass reserved for them because of that, plus they are featured in the Halo Infinite credits. Greenskull is there, LateNightHalo is there and my god even Alex Wakeford aka Haruspis is there also and he has a job at 343. If you don't know who that guy is he was the guy who made ridiculous articles on how "Bungie is sexist because they were promoting qoute on qoute" Rape Culture" with scenes like Tartarus & Miranda, Cortana & Gravemind, hates Marty for his conservative views by calling him a dumb boomer, and made up a bullshit statement about Spartan Locke is that the Halo Community hates Locke because we're qoute on qoute "Racist" and now is a writer for 343 and he has the thinnest skin in the world. He blocks people on his X account if you give out 1% of criticism against him he will block you.
@@BrokenCircle1 Oh yeah your right. I forgot about him. He’s the one CZcamsr I’ve heard they mention on their videos multiple times. There’s other ones like LateNightGaming or HiddenXperia that don’t do that much Halo Content anymore outside of like Hiddens new vid on Outcasts. And there’s other lore channels like Covenant Canon that seem chill. And then there’s Halo Canon and an OG Nak3d Halo that have left entirely.
To me, it's just that some bigger Halo creators are often changing from one extreme to another on a whim. One video, they're talking about how "Halo is doomed", then in another, they're talking about how "Halo is saved". Because of this flipflopping, it gets frustrating to tell if they're actually being serious or not.
I may not be a 343i fanboy or a passionate Bungie-era veteran, but even I'm getting tired of having to partake in mental gymnastics just to tear criticisms from hate.
Not to mention the "Bungie should replace 343i" comments... Those are prodding at a whole different can of worms that should probably be kept shut.
... because "Free-2-Try" is a seriously massive red flag as far as Modern Bungie is concerned...
Yes 100%. I don't think modern Bungie should be anywhere near anything. They are awful too. I played Destiny 1 in 2014 I think and never bought an expansion and never looked back. Also what they did to Marty is horrible.
As for the big youtubers I wont name names but yes I know or at least I think I know exactly who you are talking about.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
@@BrokenCircle1 Destiny 2 is like the opposite of Halo Infinite due to how there's a lot more content but much less consistent management of that content. I'm glad that 343i hasn't decided to follow in Modern Bungie's footsteps, and hope that the recent additions to Infinite are signs of a better future for Halo as a whole.
343i wouldn't be able to kill Halo... but a single exotic, legacy edition would.
@@Whiteout-2161the "flip flopping" is a transparent attempt to appeal to the divided community. They want the fanboys AND the detractors, without principles.
I stopped playing halo games about 1 month after halo 4 came out. Halo was my favourite game franchise, now it's dark souls.
I like this game. Obviously there are a lot of issues but I would much rather play it over any other console arena shooter right now. The core gameplay is good but the lack of content and awful net code off the launch doomed this game unfortunately. They definitely made inexcusable mistakes but I do genuinely enjoy this game
That's totally cool. I'm glad you enjoy it! Have fun, thanks for watching and taking time to share your comment.
I agree, the game is super fun, but still lacking
You guys have it all wrong. The studio you're talking about (343i) is well-known for its blunders, but HE'S talking about Tree-For-Tree, which is a much better company who actually delivers quality games at launch and is very in touch with their fans. It's really a simple misunderstanding.
XD That had me laughing.
lol that's a good one. Us Irish struggle with ours threes
Man i miss eldewrito
Me too.
Its back, fellas. 🎉
On twitter the amount of youtubers to fanboys constantly sucking on Halo Infinite saying its back and defend everything Infinite does.
Yeah it's really 'back' with 6k daily players on PC, maybe another 10k on xbox. Yeah 16k for a flagship title right after it got a major update.
More like back in the dumpster.
I'm glad you tell people not to start a war. That's always great advice. I agree with you...I was 50-50 when Halo 4 came out, and then I was like 10-90 when Halo 5 came out...I honestly never played the game, but watched a friend playthrough the campaign, and the story was so horrible that I didn't even want to touch it...I was legit hopeful that Infinite would be the saving grace that Halo needed, but when 343i kept screwing over their fanbase for money, I eventually got tired of it and moved on. I've been reading the first 6 Halo novels that were made under Bungie's reign, and I'm pretty content with never touching anything else that 343i makes. Also learning that humans are Forerunners didn't sit too well with me when I realized 343i wasn't even trying to honor or respect Bungie's legacy. 😅
Thanks for watching!
@@BrokenCircle1 thanks for sharing. I actually watched the video you were talking about a couple days ago, before I even knew about this video. It was odd to me because it made it sound like 343i had pulled the biggest 180 I had ever heard them achieve before. I didn’t know because I stopped playing Infinite in April of 2022, but I was honestly skeptical about the other guys video, so thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic.
It's funny how fragile the halo community is. I made a video like this too and I'm getting eaten alive over there by people saying "this is the best time for the game" 😂
I checked it out. Those comments though. I get alot of angry people but damn where did you share it? lol
@@BrokenCircle1 I haven't lol just pure algorithm. It's been a rough weekend.
343i fanboys are some of the most delusional people I have ever communicated with. Perhaps moreso than Star Wars Sequel fanboys.
The 343 fanboys usually live very very sad lives.
Forgot to mention that every single mod on the workshop breaks after every "update" that goes out. There needs to be full on patch note at the game startup because there is more broken stuff after each update
Yes I did forget to mention that, add to it that there are mods from the earlier days of MCC PC that are completely unplayable now sadly.
Nothing is more frustrating than having my game crash WITHOUT the crash tool gun.
@@BrokenCircle1this is why I don't even bother Modding or downloading mods now
Imagine being a 343 fanboy 💀 hope your rich to buy all the s!@# and defend what existent content they are making. I bet shesaidshewaslvl18 has a gun pointed is being threatened off screen to say this 😂
I saw that video in my feed but ignored it. It is just sad that standards have sunk so low and we can't state the standards we set with some people telling us 'to get over it'. If we could all just stand up and not accept mediocrity and have patience for a good game then these games would stop and we would get a good Halo. As long as enough people keep buying into these games Microsoft will keep milking the francize.
Yes I agree. I just saw the video this morning and saw it had two of my recent thumbnails taking up half the screen and got a bit annoyed by that.
Honestly the "Trend" is all the people who came out of nowhere with garbage videos where they stretch every shred of "news" into a 10 minute video.
What's up guys, we're back with another shop update! Pfft.
Seems like the move these days to make a channel centered around an upcoming game and then praying that the game is actually good enough to ride the attention wave.
If theres one thing i hate more than a 343 hater its a 343 fanboy, both are equally as delusional because you cant say infinite is dying or 343 doesnt care because the game is constantly improving and everyone (except the haters who i question even like halo in the first place) loves how the game is being handled now, but you also cant give them to much props because most if not all of the things they're adding shouldve been here long ago, basically dont be to critical or easy on current 343, infinite is a good game that is heading in the right direction and has much more to offer
But before infinite 343 was actual dogshit at doing this whole making halo games thing cause golly how can anyone feel any positive emotion towards halo 5 😭
I did NOT have to write allat 💀
Infinite has been dead since release month my dude
Even the pub and dev moved on instead of bringing the campaigns promised, they're starting from scratch in a new engine
Dont listen to these idiots. I subscribed to your channel after the video about how halo died. You hit the nail on the head!
343 has wanted to change everything about Halo from day 1. They even changed the looks of the Elites, Grunts and their weapons! Heck they even changed the Chief's armor. That iconic piece of kit. I keep going after the lore, because Halo was something I was invested in more than any other game.
343 had three chances to make a decent game. I even gave them the benefit of the doubt for Halo Infinite. But these jackasses ruined it.
People forget about the state of MCC so easily. All these fanboys would have been the ones cussing out 343 when it launched. 🙄
Keep putting out these videos man. Forget those shills. I am happy to see people cared about Halo so much, like me, that they cant stand what this studio and its nutjob heads have done to the game!
I feel these content creators like MintBlitz, HiddenXperia and Harsupis(the new lore master) also have a huge responsibility for how 343 is getting away with it. From the time Infinite launched, these guys make video like, "halo is awesome now". Just for 343 adding basic modes and suggestions they have been getting from day 1!
Thanks for sticking around! And for watching. I'll put out more videos for sure though to be honest I don't know how many variations of '343 sux' I can do lol. I do have a few more up my belt but as I'm sure you've seen I do like to upload other things too.
This video was very impromptu and me and the creator in question have resolved things peacefully.
Bro everything you said is true they had years but like always they chose to be greedy instead of trying to fix the game
Thanks for watching.
No problem creators like you are what we need to make halo a better game
even the least skilled Entrepreneurs will make games which are so much better than what Halo is right now
Literally. I've played several indie games over the last few months that blew me away. Games with shoestring budgets.
It's easy to blame fanboys, and they are indeed a problem, but at the end of the day it is the developer selectively listening to and rewarding their sycophants to avoid improvement.
Very true very true. Thanks for watching.
Anyone here think that microsoft will want to give halo to another company
Doubt it. If anything I think they're waiting to see how Starfield does and if that does well they may put it on ice. I could be wrong of course but only time will tell.
One criticism I remember dishonored wolf made back in the day was 343 had an inflated ego while having nothing to really back it up. It was just as accurate then as it is now.
Yes exactly. They have yet to release a Halo game that unites the community in any remote significance.
I even covered a while back how during H4s development they were saying they know better the fans...and the comments they made given Halo 4s reception aged very very poorly.
There is exactly one feature that I'm happy 343 added as an innovation to Halo, and it has been the ability to hotswap seats on a vehicle. Every decision that company has ever made has led Halo from bad to worse.
Yes that one was cool though I forgot about it. Thanks for mentioning it.
Thanks for bringing up the performance. Forced TAA in infinite murders the image quality. You should not have to use dynamic resolution to achieve playable performance
Dude i cant explain how relatable this is.
Thanks for watching!
Lmao. Side note:
There's a reason I only have the Bungie Halos installed on my laptop for MCC. I'd install Infinite but that game might as well be malware.
Last time I played it felt the same as it did at launch. "It's fun!" "Fun" only gets a game so far. The entire reason older Halo games (despite how much the sweats enrage me) felt so good was Jamie Griesemer's philosophy:
"30 seconds of fun." The 30 seconds of fun rule works so well because it feels rewarding. It's why I love Halo 2's multiplayer despite how terrible I am it compared to Halo Reach.
Halo Infinite doesn't have that rule. It traded the "30 seconds of fun" rule for bland and repetitive gameplay. Destiny 2 is filled with horrendous problems thanks to Bungie becoming corporate and just as bad as Activision in terms of greed, but I will *always* give credit where it's due.
Destiny, and by extension, Destiny 2, perfected Griesemer's rule. As bad as the greed is, Bungie made Destiny such a fun game to play. The combat loop has that satisfying Halo feel to it. I played Destiny 2 again recently and it felt like I was playing Halo again. That doesn't excuse the horrible things Bungie has done to the Destiny franchise, but it shows they haven't completely lost the narrative.
And, unlike 343, Bungie actually acknowledges and attempts to fix mistakes. It's sad to see the state of modern day Bungie but I still think in a lot of ways they're better than 343.
Yeah that sums it up pretty well. I played the original Destiny but never got expansions because I hated the greed aspect of it but I remember the gameplay loop was fantastic.
@BrokenCircle1 for me the og destiny was hard to get into because the story felt like such a step down compared to Halo. And at first I *really* didn't like the gameplay. I did get most of the dlcs years later and am tempted to go back and play but I'd have to use my xbox one and I'm pretty lazy 😅. But I might as well. I've heard the DLCs for D1 were pretty good
The statement I keep seeing that Infinite now has the most maps is so stupid, every single one of them share the exact same design philosophy of being a 3 lane competitive map layout, BTB maps are the worst for this.
Yeah its crazy. What's really stupid is that people refuse to address that basic things like the customization is locked behind a massive paywall and for some reason most people still playing this game seem OK with that.
@@BrokenCircle1 That's my #1 problem with it, visual progression has and will always be what activates my neurons the most when playing games, and if you're asking me to work a 9-5 irl job in order to get that experience then I could not be less interested.
The best patch notes:
- 343i removed from creating Halo
Nah you're just a hater
I actually can't tell whether you're trolling or not lol.
It's pretty sad that someone like this exist, believing not only that this is a "trend" as if it's some bandwagon for everyone to harp on for money or fun, but also to think 343 has you and every other sucker that keeps buying their horrible mediocre products, in their best interest.
They don't care about you or anyone, they don't even care about Halo, the very game they're being paid to make. What they only care about is money, and it really shows.
They chased trends with gameplay mechanics, horrible business practices, loosely allowed their license to be used for Halo TV Show that spits in the face of the very fans of the franchise, take away features and try to sell it back to us(picking colors for armor), and etc.
And you're saying Halo is at the best spot it can be in.
A whole decade of suffering for fans, and you want us to settle for less?
You're not a Halo Fan, no, you're actually one of the others that keep supporting 343 and it's process of killing Halo.
Halo's been bad for quite awhile now. Sure, it's not the worst game out, but it's nothing compared to the original series. They really lost their way at some point and still haven't found their way back yet. Just look at how much CE/2/Reach were discussed or played compared to MCC or Infinite. Not even comparable, I remember when hundreds of people would wait outside a single store for the release copy.
Thanks for watching.
Well they never lost their way
343 literally never found their way with the franchise period.
I’ve been thinking about it that I’ve gone back and forth about if halo infinite is saved or not but I think it’s in a weird spot of some people blessing it and other people not and it causes a Avalanche of people criticizing each other and at the end it makes a big tie, I agree with some people from both ideas but at the end it all comes down to your opinion and I can’t do anything about it
I would never say its saved. In a better spot than it is yes certainly but that isn't hard, as I see it its too little too late. Thanks for watching though, and the civility is much appreciated.
I think there is more to the convo then just what both sides bring up. I think at this point 343 defiantly felt the pain of their mistakes and so did microsoft. Layoffs, management adjustments etc. And they deserve all the criticism they get 100%. But on the other hand its been 2 years, and then you see vids like death of game and such coming out when there are plenty of people playing and the game has reached a solid state. No one reasonable, is saying just completely forget but the game is not in the same state and might actually be enjoyable for some people left. And at the end of the day we are all getting older, going on a crusade to keep a game down doesn't serve anyone. And I think people can agree going on rants about a game in its state 2 years ago is coming up to that point. Especially when their piece has been said multiple times, and is not a total reflection of the game. Did the road suck to get there, yes it did. Should there be critisim yep. But that doesn't mean people should be discouraged to enjoy the current product we have right now. I love halo but it is a video game at the end of the day. Lastly not everyone who enjoys the newer halo games is a 343 shill either (not saying the youtuber belives that but its a sentiment) and I say this as somone who loves h3 played back in the day etc. Sometimes people just are enjoying what they got and wish for more.
Everything the youtuber said is also correct but what I think that some of the people who are playing and trying to enjoy the game are really tired of hearing about the ranting and lets be real, negativity gets alot of views, people especially those who also don't like halo as a franchise love to watch. Just my 2 cents i am sure people won't like this response but all i am saying is there is alot more nuance to the conversation then just i like or i hate it.
I like it and all but 6k players on steam is not exactly what a triple A title would deem as plenty
Dude... THANK! YOU!
Seriously, I completely agree with everything you said, and thank you for making me feel like i am not crazy.
After watching all these halo CZcamsrs praising the game because of a few maps or free events, when the fundamentals are still broken out because the water now splashes, made me feel like i was the one who was wrong.
Dying behind walls is still a thing, completely unbalanced teams that forces you to win or lose, and nobody cares about that.
Again, thank you for doing this.
Thank you for watching. Yeah I've noticed...there was an article ages ago something about Halo Infinite using like 2GB of data per match...thats insane levels of data transfer. The shot around walls thing probably has something to do with that.
Halo tubers are parasites and pure cringe
And now that slide is in the game, people like Mint Blitz expect us to flock back to the game because somehow that saves the experience. I feel like I'm in an insane asylum.
To be fair the community wanted to have forge maps in the official playlist .
And the reason EA stopped the micro transactions was because they stopped the support for battlefront 2 .
Though yeah halo infinite still has a lot of problems
EA still gave it some support after that. Not much but some. As for the community wanting that sure great but my argument still stands. We shouldn't be praising 343 over a playlist and community made content at least not to the degree some do.
@@BrokenCircle1 yeah that is true though squad battles and infection is a good addition.
And from what the leaks say firefight and pve content is the next thing that’s going to be added.
After that probably the best thing 343 should do is work on that campaign because that still hasn’t gotten much updates .
I bet you any money that the next halo game will be woke and ubershill and mint clitz will praise the crap out of it too.
343 needs to be replaced. While I really do love Halo Infinite, there were a ton of problems. If Halo launched with the state it is now, I would put it as one of my favorites.
With that said, the store is disgusting. The prices are so high I think it is criminal. Also, the new maps added recently are an absolute joke. they are worse than many maps made in forge by the community, and look terrible as well for a developer made map.
So while I agree the game itself feels amazing to play in its current state and content is there, I would like another company to take on the next Halo to avoid the issues from the launch of Halo Infinite.
I think at this point it's far too little far too late. I walked out permanently on Halo Infinite during the beginning of Season 5 not only due to all the issues but also out of respect for myself.
343 has to be one of the most condescending big headed companies I've ever been a customer to and I just can't support them with my time or money anymore.
I'm glad (genuinely I really am) that you enjoy Infinite. It's cool someone else can enjoy it but for me Halo as a whole is a joke. Just saw the new cover art for their latest book and man it looks awful. The whole lore is a mess and has been the entirety of 343s time with it. (I've read 32 of the books, many of them more than once).
I just can't get invested in this universe anymore.
As much as i don’t like 343’s handling of the franchise, I do find myself enjoying infinite from time to time. And I do think part of this “halo is dead” shit can be blamed on the fans for the expectation of the next halo to be the same level if not better than 3 or reach. If halo stopped at reach I’d be fine with it.
I wish Halo stopped at Reach to be honest. I disagree that its the fans expectation for it to be 'that good'. Reach wasn't received too well back in the day if you remember. I don't think most people expect Halo 3 levels of popularity.
What they do expect is a game to launch feature complete and not to be blatantly lied to on a regular basis then be berated by 343 employees and other fans alike for disliking what's going on.
I don't think people were expecting Halo 3 level, but they were expecting a return to the Bungie Halo era level of gaming. I mean the whole reason why they called it Halo Infinite and not 6 was because it was supposed to be a spiritual reboot of the frachise calling back to the way Bungie used to make the games.
Expectations is one thing, but standards is a whole other.
Regardless of one's expectations of Halo Infinite, there is no reason to point fingers at fans for being disappointed that 343i underdelivered. With over 20 years of both Bungie and 343i halo titles as precedent for the basic level of deliverables, Halo Infinite does not meet that level, not even after 2 years. And I'm being quite liberal including 343I titles.
@@samuelgiroux6819 Yes this. I don't personally think people were expecting Bungie levels of standards but even if they were that's fair. 343 inherited that. They have the responsibility to deliver that.
They also marketed the hell out of Halo Infinite touting the new engine and everything. Showed us graphics which I don't know if Halo has ever done this off the top of my head but showed us visuals that they said were in engine footage that look NOTHING like the final game.
Sure we always had live action mixed with CGI trailers but those were obviously not the game...343 seemingly intentionally misled people about the quality of Halo Infinites visuals just like they did the story in Halo 5 with the whole Hunt the Truth ad campaign and trailers.
Imagine if Bungie advertised ODST the way they did then proceeded to only put one ODST in the third level in a brief cutscene. No one would be happy.
@@BrokenCircle1 Exactly! The expectations of fans didn't just arise from nowhere. 343i hyped this game up, and the fans raised their expectations. That simply.
I mean why else would they make a point about the 20 million downloads or whatever back when the game first launched.
What really solidfies my disgust for the handling of this game is the fact that while players had to wait over a year for features present in past Halo titles, the in-game store was up and running right at launch, and remains there to this day.
@@samuelgiroux6819 Yup. Too little too late.
Great video. The only thing I would say is that you mentioned that a lot of channels are “forced positivity”
I don’t see how them talking about good things happening in a game they like is forced. It might seem overtly positive to you, but to people who play the game it is in fact a cool thing to see a new map made by fellow halo fans added officially to the game. Just because some people don’t talk about the store prices or network issues every video doesn’t mean they are ignoring them. There’s just no point in talking about it every video because people already know. It’s not things we aren’t aware of.
It just goes back to the adage that there’s no point in beating a dead horse ya know?
Pretty fair take you made some valid points, I wish halo infinite just released properly in the first place 😢
Same. Thanks for watching.
You ever get videos of people praising infinite in your recommended feed? pretending the game is now great it gets really annoying lol
Yes all the time. There have certainly been improvements for sure but I would say Infinite is in what would have been a rough launch or beta state currently.
It has a long way to go and the aggregious microtransactions kill it for me. I am not a fan and sadly I don't know that I ever will be.
343 killed Halo at least for me. At least I have MCC when that works.
What was stated about "rigs" and hardware requirements got me thinking. The reason I stopped playing Halo Infinite was because the game damn near killed my $3000 custom PC. The piss poor optimization burned up the GPU (NVIDIA GTX1060 - which if I'm not mistaken was the XBOX ONE's GPU) and I had to send my PC back to DigitalStorm to recieve a complete overhaul. If I was being generous I would've given Halo Infinite a "C" grade if not for that incident. But because of that Halo Infinite got an automatic "F" from me. A shame really, I really wanted to like this game and when it happened I remember thinking, "if my PC could run literally any game that runs on Unreal Engine smoothly it should've been able to run this".
Dude, I stopped reading after i read $3000 PC then a GTX1060. The fuck dude? No duh your damn hardware is going to get cooked. Your $3000 PC was running way old hardware.
Upgrade your computer, you are killing it yourself.
@@FighterNP I already have. It has an RTX 4050 now. Also just FYI the reason it was $3000 is because of the internal storage. The base model was $1500 but I upgraded the internal storage from 3 TBs to 10. All SSD.
@@JohnBachofer ...I'm concerned, It has nothing to do with halo here. I hope you didn't buy a server for a gaming pc because that is way too expensive either way and you got a rtx 4050 which is a way lower end card of a 40 series. you could have gotten a 3080 or 4080 instead. Also that is a lot of storage space, even I have yet to finish 1TB storage drive.
I feel like the progress is always gonna be dissappointing, regardless of what 343 does because the standard ceiling is always gonna keep increasing and 343 will not be able to keep up with it. I do feel like you should understand the sentiment that being optimistic could also come from a genuine fan who appreciates halo getting better (slowly yes, but thats just how fucked it is). Although what do we determine as the standard of being a complete game ? What do you think?
Increasing? Man that is ultimate levels of cope. If a game can't live up to the last game generally accepted to be great then it isn't it.
@@BrokenCircle1 yeah especially in the terms of what we consider content complete, because of the live service model in *ALL* aaa games now it's now considering normal to have cyberpunk ahh gameplay on launch *essentially everything is a beta* and I hate that sentiment which is why games like baldurs gate 3 are so successful, 60 dollars and all of it is just there
I personally enjoy infinite but I cannot defend it to the extent that these other CZcamsrs do. It’s insane how much people defend this game. And to add on to the point that people retroactively like the previous game goes all the way back to Reach. When reach came out it was not very well liked, then 4 came out, everyone loved reach. 5 came out and now halo 4s campaign is the work of Shakespeare. Now that infinite is out everyone saying halo 5 is good which I agree with them, I enjoyed the multiplayer for what it was.
Tell me about it. I like Reach in hindsite but I can acknowledge their were major issues. Halo 4s campaign sucked and always will lol. Halo 5 sucks to for me.
Thanks for watching and actually having a mind of your own unlike some people here.
Reach wasn't nearly as poorly received as any of 343's entries. The only people seriously angry were a small group of super nerds and MLG tryhards who were sperging about the Fall of Reach being disregarded and Bloom/Armor Abilities respectively. Reach has always been one of the best Halo games. The only people who pretend Halo 4 was good are 343 fanboys.
Just call him up and have a healthy argument, I disagree with a lot of what you say but I would love to hear y’all have a discussion.
I dream for the day 342 gets blacklisted from the gaming industry and all the people that work there.
And shills are proof gatekeeping is necessary or they'll kill things you love from within like a cancer
Yeah I mean I'm sure there are some decent people there but unfortunately it seems like alot of them really suck. And yes I agree there should be some degree of gatekeeping.
the only thing good about halo 5 was it's massive vehicle and weapon arsenal for custom games, besides that it was garbage.
Yes I did enjoy custom games the few times I played them.
@@BrokenCircle1 that halo 2 beam rifle that shot black holes was great.
@@darkblaze72 I remember a plasma pistol doing that. It's been a really long time since I've played H5.
@@BrokenCircle1 i think there was two weapons that had that effect, nonetheless i wish among a shit ton of other features that should be there from launch that the sandbox of infinite would have a huge variety of weapons. asking for that though is like trying to get blood out from a stone since the entire game play loop of 343's halo is geared towards esports now.
@@BrokenCircle1 great video by the way!
Man look, I don’t like 343, but seriously man bringing negativity to a game is pointless and just isn’t fun to watch, and your getting butt hurt over one person just wanting to be positive about a game they love, if you don’t like something maybe just don’t play it or get a job 🤷♂️ like an adult.
Clearly you didn't watch the video as I mention my job in it. Insulting people online like this while also telling them to be an adult is kind of ironic.
@@BrokenCircle1 hey, at least I didn’t make a video about it 💀
"Just let people be positive on mediocrity"
Bro is literally simping for a multi million dollar company. Dawg said brining negativity to a video is pointless. So is he saying we can't criticize games anymore? What is up with you 343 meat munchers
Can you make a video about #bringhalomodstoxbox ?
I've considered it but have been really busy with work and personal stuff lately this video was impromptu and unplanned. Also not sure what else I could say other than bring them to xbox. Perhaps I will mention is as a side note in the next video I do covering a mod.
Thanks for watching and the suggestion.
@@BrokenCircle1 I made this because even if you hate / love 343 this is good for everyone and if no one works on halo in the future we can still have this .
I don't understand how we're suppose to be the 'bad guys' here. How dare we want a competently made game, that should've launched feature complete, not bogged down with macrotransactions, giving us only crumbs of content. Shills are the worst, Halo is why I gatekeep all my other hobbies now.
Thanks for watching. Agreed.
Have a graphics card that, when the game came; was the second top-tier card 2080ti.
The game still has it's optimization issues until now and that's while playing on a competitive low settings atmosphere (devoid of all the goodies my GPU should render but I can't due to poor optimization). Also a core i9 CPU
But yes, um running a toaster from the 60s 😂. Just yesterday my game crashed and I lost 15 csr and then my controller stopped working because the game still has an issue where sometimes your controller doesn't work and I had already loaded into a ranked game. I lost 30 csr and I didn't even get a chance to play the game. And I recorded it too BTW (all my games are recorded for vod review).
I have had less issues with older games in the past that I have with this game made by a AAA studio. But sure, my toaster PC is certainly the issue even though I play Valorant as well at high fps and high settings
Yeah this is exactly what I'm saying. I don't have quite that good a rig but still decent enough and it runs newer games better but Infinite runs like shit.
I kinda want to chip in my two cents on this topic, but in some cases I do prefer some of the 343 halos to the bungie halos, I do not know if that’s because I grew up with the 343 halos, with 5 being my first halo game that I’ve owned, but my first experience with halo was reach firefight. Regardless I will say that it’s disappointing to see that 343 has taken this long to get infinite up to speed with features that almost every other halo had on launch, but I do still find the game enjoyable to play on the odd day that I do play halo infinite. I’m sorry if this comment was more of a ramble than anything
The only thing Halo 5 got right was infection and the Magnum
Tbh, MCC IS 343s greatest achievement. Why?
First off the older halo games were shut down, usually other developers like Activision, ea, or Ubisoft shut down games, forcing people to have to play the newer games.
MCC is objectively better than the older games, there's more customization, playlists, custom backgrounds custom browser, vehicle and weapon skins, more stuff added to forge, custom controller support, new armor, updated textures for 2 and 1, literally all of the older mainline halo games, more customization options for 3, and 4. Mod support for PC, more achievements (I think)
And a all in one collection. You don't have to switch discs, or applications.
So in my opinion, it is definitely their best achievement. At the start? Hell no. But now in 2023 it's definitely their best achievement. Even if you disagree that it's better, you have to agree that if we didn't have MCC, we would be forced to play the newer games for multiplayer fill.
And the best part? We don't have to play halo 5 or infinite. You can literally just load up MCC and play whatever halo you want, and you can invite friends without a hassle!
Ever since 343 the clown job industry has been at an all time high with their "fans" . Im sorry shills
Ngl, watching people pointing fingers at each other for petty fights is funny to watch. I'm here to see where this goes 🍿.
Off topic, but do you have any advice for someone who wants to do make youtube videos/commentary but kinda doesn't like the sound of their own voice in recordings?
(Also, genuinely, thank you for being so interactive. I comment a lot on your videos now cause I genuinely like seeing your thoughts and opinions and genuinely like talking to you. You seem like a pretty chill guy)
I try to respond when I can. Been really busy at my job as of late as well as with other things and sometimes CZcams doesn't notify me of comments but I try to respond when I can.
My advice would be get a good mic early. One of my biggest regrets is making a massive Halo video (a year and a day ago now) and not having a great mic.
Also practice writing scripts. Re read it a few times, make sure to get the right wording on things.
As far as your voice I have the same issue. I say listen to your voice back once you record it. The first 10 times you'll hate it. The first 100 you'll want to pull your hair out. After that it starts to get bearable.
@BrokenCircle1 understandable. I used to have a job, but it really messed with my mental health and I haven't had one since.
Thanks for the advice. It means a lot. I'm very self conscious about a lot of myself. And I've really been wanting to do CoD zombies videos. I haven't decided whether I wanna stick to mainly zombies or do other things like Halo commentary and minecraft videos too.
@@intuitionedits2.032 I get it about the job but I think what you should do is find one that suits you.
Maybe something after hours like cleaning at night or perhaps stocking, maybe a night shift security guard at a warehouse.
@BrokenCircle1 part of is definitely having disabilities and being socially awkward. I do sometimes help my parents out at my Dad's clinic doing shredding so there's that. I'm content with where I am. Idk. Maybe that makes me unique
"Tree for tree"
Great video, couldn’t agree more.
Thanks for the support. It means alot.
You tell 'em! Let the truth be told!
Nah you're just a hater
343 hate is justified
W vid though even if i disagree with you alot you were pretty respectful and were the necessary evil to this rather silly fella
Well thanks for watching even if we disagree. I appreciate the civility.
You're literally two opposing sides that are both equally insane. No, 343I is not as nearly as bad as what you make out (and they make decent games) but yes, they don't make Halo as well as Bungie did. You can argue all day long about it but it's getting you nothing. Play the games you enjoy playing and if you enjoy current 343 era Halo (MCC and Infinite) then that is also completely fine.
"They made decent games" Yeah if you don't look at them as Halo games.
If you change the character names of Halo 5 and not title it as such, it would've been just another mid game.
Shill alert
@@RoKBottomStudios I honestly think if you removed the name Halo from both 4 & 5 people would be highly praising those games, they are not bad games at all from any point. The gameplay, missions, multiplayer etc are very good. That doesn’t mean I personally like them (I don’t like H5 at all) but they are far above “mid” games.
@@balinfoley953halo 4 multiplayer was pretty bad but I did like halo 5 multiplayer
even drg looks better than halo infinite and that was developed by an indie studio, that's embarrassing
What is drg?
deep rock galactic @@BrokenCircle1
It doesn't just look better it's pulling better steam numbers
well the seasons look better than infinite. new enemies, season pass that cost zero money, new customisation, new features and new beer. but you got a point, what i mean is how much content is in the game and despite it's looks it can still pull an audience @@grittytheg5077
It's odd to me that the kinds of things we'd have burned Bungie in effigy for are just given a pass by these people.
Like yeah a lot of us are nostalgic for classic bungie bit we ripped them new ones back then when they fucked up. The critical difference is that bungie didn't do so constantly and often fixed their errors they got roasted for.
I saw someone claim that we want halo to go to current day bungie like they are flawless when the actual claim is closer to. "At this point almost anyone else could do a better job."
I hate interacting with the community now. It basically getting gaslit and insulted for not even complaining sometimes. Just now slavishly worshiping these halo games get you bombarded.
At this point I'm apathetic to halo. 343 made me not care about the franchise. I can not be asked to care, even if I accept what they're doing as good they're just gonna drop it entirely and do something else instead anyways.
Assuming they actually make a new game and don't just fiddle with cutscenes in infinite's multiplayer from now on. I don't see anything to get excited for. The prometheans are irrelevant. The created got replaced by the banished. And the banished got replaced by the "worse than the flood" Endless who's mere existence just adds further proof that the forerunners are the most incomptent precusor race in science fiction.
Whatever happens next will likely to continue to be disconnected and ignoring everything they set up from before because each time 343 said they'd do better they doubled down on this behavior.
I don't think I want to keep waiting for things to get better than the last decade of being disappointed.
Yeah I feel you. I was super invested in Halo to the point I read all 30 something books but their universe is so inconsistent.
I find it funny the fanboys most common defense boil down to some variant of 'You're not a real Halo fan' or 'you're just toxic'.
Or my favorite recent one...that I'm somehow a Bungie shill....despite the fact Bungie hasn't ran Halo for what 13 years now? Also there isn't a single Destiny video on my channel nor have I ever praised Bungie...quite the opposite actually. lol
343 sucks. The worst company I've ever seen in the games industry. I'm sure there might be someone worse than them but right now they seem to be it.
Anyways thanks for stopping by and listening to me complain for a bit, also good to hear your thoughts on the issue as well I did read it all and I emphasize with you heavily.
It's just so tiring. I understand many old fans, including me, prefer the classic bungie made games, but last I checked, the teams that made the classic games got split up. Like you said, it's been like 13 years. At this point, I'm convinced it is projection. Though my 'favorite' argument is probably, "What kind of halo fan isn't happy to get more content? You should be happy you got anything at all."
I feel like I've wasted so much time on 343. Browsing the wikis is just depressing, and I no longer feel at home in Halo spaces.
I'm just so tired, man.
But writing it out helped. Thanks for reading.