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winch will do the work but if i were you i'd invest in some lifting strap or chain because ratchet strap aren't designed for lifting
Agreed! Also, when lifting a long object, never use one chain or strap. Use two. One from each end.
Watching Ray move that axel had my mind visualizing it slipping to one end or the other. Potentially very dangerous.
I've worked with job & gantry cranes before I retired I installed a harbor freight host in my home garage with straps it works great have a great weekend
I can hear Ray now. Reeee! Don’t use ratchet straps for lifting. 😅
I'd say get a few D rings as well
Yeah when he lifted that with the strap I was like NO NO NO......REEEEEEE!
Not one comment on the "WIN" for the bolt extraction? That was a sweet victory. The struggle is real on broken bolts. Job well done. Bob Dole would be proud
If only I knew about this trick years ago. It would have saved me a lot of drilling.
To extract the stud he should try a thick washer over the stud
Shhhhhhh!!!! Don't tell em how old we are.
And broken bolt victories are awesome
Mount the winch on a beam trolley so you can use it along the entire length of the beam, just make sure you have a positive stoo at the end so it doesn't come off.
You'll always have the best success when you let the weld completely cool. A tip, use a can of air upside down and spray it, it will quench and harden it.
I was thinking the same thing. I recall reading about the tensile/compression strength of steel dropping significantly when heated. That's why they spray that textured insulation on steel beams, as it buys time for people to escape buildings before the steel fails when they are on fire. That's the ultimate failure mode of the twin Trade Towers.
I yell at him through the video every time and tell him to quench the weld. Not only will that harden the red hot metal, but the thermal shock should help loosen the bolt
@@oldman9642 I know, the bolt was still glowing the first or second time and he put a wrench to it. He does it all the time. Lol
@@oldman9642I am yelling, it's too hot, quinch or wait 😂
I've been taught that you have to let the whole deal cool off for 15 minutes or so before you try to remove it.all the heat expands the stud in the bore you want it to contract fully before you try.
Exactly. Allowing it to cool increase your success rate a massive amount.
Not to mention that hot metal is weaker than cold metal.
Yelp. Heat is your friend if you'll let it have time to be so.
Ray's impatience of not letting hot welds cool down is his problem.
I'm so glad you're doing so well in your shop Ray.... you deserve it! '👍👍
I kinda like the washer method. You get more bolt penetration and the washer gives more welding surface to help the nut get a good grip on it.
Hey Ray, it appears that you are becoming more of a welder using the wire brush to clean things up before throwing the lightning ⚡️ Good job!
Hi Rainman, It would have been funny if the minute you pushed the button for the winch you cut to a building falling down. Also, for the strap you have on the hook you shouldn't allow it to slide on the hook, if the load comes un-balanced the strap will slide and lead to what you are lifting to drop. This would probably not be an outcome you would want. Love the channel!
Definitely a chain would have been better than the strap to avoid slippage.
or 2 straps, both hooked onto the winch hook
Chains to the axle ends might have been better. They don't normally slip.
Nice job. You sure saved the neighbors a lot of grief. Take care and have a great weekend.
Anybody else feel the urge to have a glass of OJ when the train whistle sounded at 14:40? You really both raised and lowered the boom on that pesky bolt. Please keep your excellent videos coming I'm addicted!!!
4:11 I think the most important feature of that winch would be the strength and reliability of the cable brake
Like a good neighbor, Rainman is there.
That crane is perfect, just make sure the swing arm pin is not sloppy. The shop looks amazing.
We learn from watching and listening to other people, Ray and you know what and how to repair vehicles. You do it the right way and don't cut corners, just to get by. I wish you were here in SC, you'd be my mechanic.
Beware depending on the weight of the load keeping that hook in the center of the lift strap. If that hook ever started to slip away from the center of the strap for whatever reason, things get dangerously ugly real fast. Ask my friend who I was watching at a distance how we learned this. :-). Luckily no one was hurt in our case but item being lifted was ruined.
The appropriate chain with eye should always be employed when lifting anything, the eye stops thing from slipping through the hook. @briandesbhene8424
I've always just used the cherry picker (engine hoist). It's on wheels so it can not only pick the load up, but also move the load all around the shop too.
I do that as well.
I am so happy for you and Lauren that you are being successful. It’s not easy to build a business from the ground up! Finding customers would not have been an issue because you are amazing at what you do! it’s all behind the scenes stuff that is challenging. Permits, finding a location and the capital investment. Now that you’ve reached a point that you can hire employees is a sign of great success! The best of luck! You and your family deserve all good things that come your way!🇨🇦😊
Navy veteran, here. Block and tackle are fantastic force multipliers.
Letting the bolt cool completely after the weld is the best way to extract. As you add heat, it expands and pushes on the threads in the head. When it cools, it contracts and pulls them apart. Yes, it is only a few thousandths, but that is what allows you to turn the bolt out with your fingers.
Paint looks pretty good love the black painted iron and the grey walls Raymond 0:20 @Rainman Ray's Repairs
It never ceases to amaze me how modern CCD cameras can handle welding flash. Another ornery fastener falls before the ebullient Rainman. Great job as always. Be careful with that winch. 😉👍🏼
Try a plumb Bob and a can of pavement marking paint to map out an accurate swing arm radius on the ground.
Nice job. That hoist set up is a great idea. Run power from overhead, with cable to enable full swing.
It would be a little better if the winch could roll along the boom.
Fireworks and Coffee makes for a great combination this morning. Thanks Ray.
The shop is looking great!
It's poring cats and dogs there wow wish we had some of that rain over here in Az All we have is clouds teasing us with rain @Rainman Ray's Repairs
Hey Ray, I enjoy watching you every day and I rarely comment, but as a welding instructor I have a couple tips. You don't need the cup when welding with flux core wire without gas, it may give you more room and visibility in some cases. Also, the can of brake clean could have been a little farther away from the sparks, keep up the great work.
I thought the wire guide tip was energized, I'd hate to touch the work and weld my tip
That's correct, you do have to avoid touching the tip, but it's no harder than keeping the tungsten clean when TIG welding. I've seen you go into some pretty tight spots.@@RainmanRaysRepairs
When you weld on the nut to the broken stud, you heat up the stud tremendously, expanding it some . Let it cool some, spray some penetrating fluid , wait a little more until its cool enough to touch and you'll have better success. It should be almost loose. Maybe give it a tap just before you attach the nut to shake it in the threads.
Ray's impatience of not letting hot welds cool down is his problem.
I was wondering when you were going to put a hoist on that thing. Looks grate just next time dont use a ratchet strap to lift off of. That is actually a osha volition. Stay safe and keep up the amazing work Ray!
Having that rotating the way you have it is a blessing in a shop when you have engines and heavy stuff getting delivered most shops have to drag there engine hoist out to do that and most times the engine hoist have an engine on them or buried with heavy stuff around it
Bolt extraction is absolutely the HARDEST work in all of Mechanical Engineering. VERY GOOD, SIR!
Definitely. It’s also the most stressful but satisfying when you win. I mostly work with Stainless in the food industry and it’s always an “oh crap” moment.
Mechanics I knew back in the day had a foolproof technique. They sent it to a muffler shop.
Ray, I do electrical work for a living, could just come out of that box with some MC cable or for a better look, run 1/2 EMT up, turn a 90 on the roof and over to the beam, set a 4x4 box, RS cover and receptacle, plug in the winch and then its always powered and dont have to plug the extension cord in all the time to get it to work.
I really like the hoist idea. We would have to be straining vertebrae to lift that diff off the back of a pick up. Lately I have been trying to use the engine hoist for such things, Im certainly not getting any younger, but it is a bit of work dragging that thing around and hooking up to something.
Great job Ray!! Pretty soon you will be known as the broken stud whisperer 🙂
The winch setup looks pretty good too...anything to save ones body from aches and pains is a huge win!!
Every shop should have some sort of overhead crane system.
I've seen and done this with broken bolts, drilled with a left hand drill, used left handed tap and bolt, used a set of jam nuts, and carefully backed out the bolt after applying a decent amount of heat directly on the broken bolt. Good job on the bolt removal Ray. Cheers :)
For the bolt extraction, I would have started with the washer. It helps you not get weld on to the part you are trying to remove the bolt from.
yes, andi have better luck spraying it with fluid and letting it cool down before trying to extract
Ray's impatience of not letting hot welds cool down is his problem.
Blowing out the exhaust ports can be a double edged sword. While removing the bad stuff, you can blow the debris into the cylinder, if that valve is opened.
your doing this more and more keep it up and you will be the extraction guy every one knows
Lifting chains. Forks for lifting pallets. Lots of potential.
Be safe is mostly important.
Love your content.
That broken stud is pretty gnarly there Raymond 7:20 @Rainman Ray's Repairs
You know, your 'I got fired today' video popped up in my recommended list the other day and watching the look around the clean shop walls with their bright white and new shop looking feel I thought, 'damn, he's come a long ways!'
Best part was 19:38 - when ray gave us the Darth Vader stare…the force is strong in this one.
Yesterday you were back to the ols shop on TikTok , today you're next door in the body shop , God knows where you'll be tomorrow . :)
Nice to see you lend a helping hand to thine neighbors. Good job on the extraction and hope the wench gives you the extra lifting power needed.
I think the gantry style swing arm crane you got is awesome. As a crane operator though, I would suggest getting a couple rigging slings instead of using a ratchet strap like that. Also when you rig your load, you want the sling angle between your load and hook as close to 90 degrees as possible but at least 60 degrees or greater. The more perpendicular the sling is to the hook, the greater the stress is on it.
Yea this came out better than the Subaru. I think that putting that washer on was a brilliant idea, it defiantly gave you more leverage. Good one.
Just be on alert and careful every time. Like your way of thinking, making your shop nice and safe. Respect, 👏
And I think we're all in agreement that a broken Ray is a sad Ray Day. Stay safe!
Ray the saviour of all saviours and when I seen Ray fix the broken manifold bolt on the neighbours engine I was not at all surprised. Welldone to the shop and show everyone seems to work together fantastically.
😎💪🧠 ✨️🙂 🤔 ✨️
Hey Ray, bend a piece of flat bar then weld it to the washer. It applies more leverage to a larger area then then the nut does. Less likely to break the weld..
Another stud removal completed without too much drama. Job well done 👏
I suspect most people with any experience hate broken bolts. Was just installing a new mower deck, the spindles are aluminum. One came off no problem. Other one, 2 stripped, one broke.
Long story short, used good drill bits, ended up using punch to remove remaining fraction. Drilled out threads, used nut and bolt rather than rethreading. Had access to both sides, easy way out. Hardest part is getting the hole centered.
I'll bet northern mechanics do this every day.
You are getting better at those extractions Ray. I would suggest having a look at the liner of your welder. Looks like your line may have fused to a spot in the liner. I don't have much experience with Flux Core wire, but you might want to switch to sold core and use gas just for stud extraction as you don't have to deal with the slag in the weld as much. Keep up the good work.
I was looking for this comment lol. That flux core without gas has a nasty habit of having porosity in my experience. If the material isn't pre-heated, too much rust, too little rust lol... It's just plain fussy. If Ray had Gas (75/25 mix) and Solid Core (Like ER-70S), I'm sure he could do these extractions in his sleep they'd be so easy.
Always amazed by your patience and tenacity. After the Subaru job this must have felt easy.
I think you should always start with the washer trick. It provides more surface area. There is a reason the bolt broke to start with so this is the force you must overcome.
The 'lift' is an outstanding idea - good job.
Sweet work Ray you are getting to be a master at removing these broke off bolts.
Back in black Ray Excellent mate real Aussie thinking
that home built crane is a good idea and a back saver. bolt extraction is a winner -
LOVE THE BLUE WELDING gloves😅😅😅...good job Ray!
Next addition to the shop should be a bead blasting cabinet.
I have feeling that some point Ray own whole building. Good job for that bolt extraction, Sir.
When you get done welding you would want to add heat not cool it down with liquids. You want it to cool down slowly, fast quench or something similar will make the metal harder and more brittle, you want the grain to be uniform thru out
Ray, great job on the broken stud! I like the "winch crane", but I do have one suggestion; rather that using ratchet straps, invest in a few crane slings. That way, you can attach one to each end of the item you are lifting, and that will pretty much fix the issue mentioned by others of the load shifting when the hook slips down the ratchet strap. I'm also not sure of the tensile strength of ratchet straps, as they are meant to hold things down rather than to lift them up. Keep the good ideas coming!!
That winch lift will prove to be a god send in the future, you just don't know it yet. Watch that winch lift!
Video approved, plenty of gravity but no falling from winch, victory with extraction and fire 😮.
You are now officially the broken off stud extraction king. Word will get out!
As a DIY I have learned a lot from watching this channel. How to diagnose circuits and components using a reader and broken bolt removal top the list.
Outstanding ❤❤🎉🎉, great welders aren't born,they're trained😊,best part of this channel Improvise,Overcome,Adapt❤🎉🎉🎉
Should that not be Improvise, Adapt and overcome ?
Nice work getting the broken stud out Came out after you Quenched it and then lubed it 😂 everytime 23:47 @Rainman Ray's Repairs
Ray, if you would just allow those nuts to cool for about 15 minutes after welding, they will almost always come out. The heat expands the bolt, but they actually shrink to less than original size when they cool. Trying to take it out hot means the bolt is actually bigger than when you started.
Remember the hot stud expands more than the cool hole. So the stud actually grips tighter. Plus the hot stud has less strength than a cool one.
Ray's impatience of not letting hot welds cool down is his problem.
Who needs Doodly Doos when Ray has train horns?!?
Amirite?
Great idea with the crane. ;-)
Of course it's working, there's 3:20 video remaining (save time, use washer and nut first). ;-D
Yes the overhead crane will work but for lifting what you lifted don't ever use a ratchet strap for lifting, you should have used two 1 inch yellow straps with a shackle in the hook. Safety first. I have been on quite a few rigging crews. Safety Safety Safety.
Awesome idea Ray! Good day to one and all!
Everyone loves a successful stud extraction.
The washer trick was new to me. Learned something. Thanks!
Using a winch as a hoist is not recommended as it can result in damages and injuries.3 Winches are designed to pull weight, while hoists are used to lift loads vertically over inclines greater than 45 degrees.1 Some winches are specially manufactured to double as a hoist, but they should never be used as a hoist unless the manufacturer clearly states that it is designed to function as a hoist as well.02 Some manufacturers produce winches that have a locking brake and the option to switch off their free spool mechanism, but it is not recommended to use a winch to do a job for the hoist unless the manufacturer clearly states that it is designed to function as a hoist as well.
It's amazing what new paint does. It's looking great and it looks brighter
The addition of the washer is new in your broken stud/bolt extraction process. It seems to make a big difference in the weld/nut attachment. I liked it.
I also am happy that you are going to be using that overhead arm with that Harbor Freight winch. Good putting it to use. And the shop walls are looking great too. They will all be done soon and it will make the shop look so much better.
you are getting good at welding and extracting broken bolts
I do loads of these jobs . I give the washer a right beating after welding with a hammer to shock the thread before welding on the nut. Works every time.
Very nicely done Ray. Beautiful job.
OMG Ray, no. I live in Ontario and it is VERY illegal to attach a hoist to a support structure, without a Professional Structural Engineers inspection (which you won't get), regular testing and inspection by a Certified Technician and a SWL notice pinned to the lift. In the event of an incident, you are probably uninsured.
But this is Florida, so apparently anything goes. Seen videos of auto shops sending away cars with with missing brakes, frames snapped in half, NO FLOOR beneath driver's feet, and so on because owners declined repairs.
I had a shop in Georgetown Ontario, and my 2 post lift needed an inspection and cert. every year.
Happy Saturday Ray. This is a fantastic video.
That winch is going to save a lot of back pain.
Some say Ray’s helping out the neighbour with a stuck bolt, others say he’s trying out the site of his shops future expansion!
Let it cool.off a little while . Also some nuts a made of better alloys . Rusty nuts don't work as good either . Worked on plenty of Dozers, that needed this type of work. Have a great weekend everybody . 🔧👍🇺🇸
Dear Ray! It is really wonderful to see how you are making everything "Shiny and Nice!" The brain functions best when the shop looks great.....Outstanding idea using a lift for safety! Let the tools do the work.....save your energy for the difficult tasks. It would be a pleasure to work in the shop......Keep improving every aspect......You are a shining example of how EVERYTHING should look here in the United States......Be Number One!!!!
Someone may have already mentioned it but a hoist and a winch are two different beasties. A hoist is made for lifting. A winch is made for pulling. The difference is that a winch may not be designed to hold the load when power is removed from the device. A hoist is designed to hold the rated load. A lot of folks use winch and hoist interchangeably but should not. The rating on a winch is a bit nebulous indicating the load it can pull over level ground with unspecified resistance. A winch rating often exceeds its lift capability. If you are using a winch to lift be very careful. If you are lifting use a hoist. That is why it is called an engine hoist not an engine winch.
Your getting a lot better at extracting those broken studs in the engines.
Your the man for stud extractions.
I'm no rigger, but they're the people to google for knowledge about lifting straps. I think that having a shallow "angle" on that ratchet strap makes for a lot more load on each side of the one strap as you're lifting, compared to a taller/longer strap set up. It's not an intuitive thing to me, so it really stood out when I first learned about it.
Great job Ray! As long as the lift helps you out and makes it a bit easier on everyone's back, it's well worth the buy😊
Great success on the bolt extraction!
Your shop looks great! Proud of your progress.
The jib crane is a nice addition to your shop. Should prove to be very useful. Just a note, lifting a load with a strap like that is not safe. The load can shift and fall.
I love your hoist, Ray. You're really getting well set up there. Lovely extraction, by the way.
Excellent job once again sir.