High-Speed Rail in Finland - VR Pendolino Train in Ekstra Class from Lahti to Helsinki
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Train: VR Pendolino S 64
From: Kajaani Railway Station, Finland
To: Helsinki Central Railway Station (Helsinki Central Railway Station)
Route via: Kuopio, Pieksämäki, Kouvola, Lahti, Tikkurila, Pasila
Railway lines used: Kerava-Lahti High Speed Railway (Lahden oikorata)
Train operator: VR-Yhtymä Oyj (Valtion Rautatiet)
Travel Class: Ekstra Class (First Class)
Departure from Kajaani: 06h33 Finnish Time
Arrival in Helsinki: 12h40 Finnish Time
Full Route in Video: Lahti - Tikkurila - Helsinki Airport
Travel season: Summer 2023
Ticket bought on: vr.fi
Registration: Pendolino Sm3 7609
Constructed by: Fiat Ferroviaria, Alstom, Rautaruukki-Transtech
Bonus Content:
Ring Rail Line (Kehärata)
Helsinki Airport Railway Station (Lentoaseman rautatieasema)
Night Train IC 273 “Santa Claus Express” Helsinki - Rovaniemi
Juna: VR Pendolino S 64
Lähde: Kajaanin rautatieasema, Suomi
Vastaanottaja: Helsingin päärautatieasema
Reitti: Kuopio, Pieksämäki, Kouvola, Lahti, Tikkurila, Pasila
Käytetyt radat: Lahden oikorata
Junaoperaattori: VR-Yhtymä Oyj (Valtion Rautatiet)
Matkaluokka: Ekstraluokka
Lähtö Kajaanista: 06h33 Suomen aikaa
Saapuminen Helsinkiin: 12h40 Suomen aikaa
Koko reitti videolla: Lahti - Tikkurila - Helsinki-Vantaan lentoasema
Matkakausi: Kesä 2023
Liput ostettu: vr.fi
Ilmoittautuminen: Pendolino Sm3 7609
Valmistaja: Fiat Ferroviaria, Alstom, Rautaruukki-Transtech
Tåg: VR Pendolino S 64
Från: Kajana järnvägsstation, Finland
Till: Helsingfors centralstation (Helsingfors centralstation)
Rutt via: Kuopio, Pieksämäki, Kouvola, Lahtis, Dickursby, Böle
Järnvägslinjer som används: Kerava-Lahti höghastighetsjärnväg (Lahden oikorata)
Tågoperatör: VR-Yhtymä Oyj (Valtion Rautatiet)
Reseklass: Ekstraklass (första klass)
Avgång från Kajana: 06h33 finsk tid
Ankomst till Helsingfors: 12h40 finsk tid
Hela rutten i video: Lahtis - Dickursby - Helsingfors flygplats
Resesäsong: Sommaren 2023
Biljett köpt på: vr.fi
Registrering: Pendolino Sm3 7609
Konstruerad av: Fiat Ferroviaria, Alstom, Rautaruukki-Transtech
00:00 Preview Summary
01:10 Lahti Railway Station
02:26 Inside Pendolino High-Speed Train
04:37 Kerava-Lahti High-Speed Railway
05:50 Restaurant Car
09:05 Tikkurila
10:35 Helsinki Airport Railway Station
12:25 Bonus: Pendolino at Helsinki Central Railway Station
13:55 Bonus: Santa Claus Express Sleeper Train
Your camera best picture thanks man
Two things.
Finnish trains are wider than trains in most other countries due to the wide loading gauge. If by "narrow" you mean the cabin sides taper inwards at the top, yes, this is necessary because, like the ETR610, the train tilts.
Also, the benefit of the tilting system isn't that it allows the train to go any faster than a non-tilting train. What it does is make the journey more comfortable than in a non-tilting train at the same speed.
The pendolino does reach the speed of 220km/h regularly, the Lahti Kerava HSR is set at a allowed operating speed of 220km/h for one of the purposes to let pendolino run that speed. it reached a maxinum speed of 242km/h at test runs.
This train is way better then that prison train you took in the USA. Lol.
Finland is a wonderful country in Europe. Very nice journey I have to say.
When I was on a Pendolino from Helsinki to Kokkola, the train would at times reach 240km/h since we were almost two hours late
No, only at test runs.
Back in the 90s the express trains could have up to 15 wagons hauled by a single Sr1 locomotive. Sometimes 2 locomotives. And I have a video where the Pendolino reaches about 220 km/h. This was back in 2015, however I only filmed through the window.
oki; i guess the pendolino reaches that speed today only if it is delayed
@@doc7austin Yup I guess so.
@@doc7austin It should regularly reach 220km/h between Kerava and Lahti, since it's the only high speed rail in Finland. However they don't use the tilting system of Pendolino's anymore, so they aren't any faster in the curves than regular InterCity.
Sm5 isn't a VR class, but JKOY class. JKOY = "Pääkaupunkiseudun Junakalusto Oy", which is a rolling stock company owned by the cities of Helsinki region. VR is only the current operator.
This reminds me of the train trip I took from Lahti to Helsinki several years ago - but it was a regular IC, as there were no Pendolini on this route yet.
Good job !
Nice post
Yes they do go 220 km/h when needed - for example when catching up a delay. Only on this section of track though. 200 km/h elsewhere.
Yeah. The current timetables have enough slack in them that if everything is running well, 180 to 190 is enough to stay on time between Tikkurila and Lahti. Anyway, currently there isn't a section of track where Sm3 (Pendolinoi) trains are scheduled to be faster than IC trains.
I think the last tilting system in use was disabled in June 2021. There were far too many problems with it due to freezing and snow.
In Pendolinos perhaps? But I'm fairly sure I've sat in an IC train with an active tilting system since then. Or maybe not... I am a monthly train traveller and I don't know if I've encountered it that recently. Maybe it has been completely disabled across the fleet.
@@TealJoshThe ic trains don't have a tilting system. Sometimes the tracks might be tilted in curves to make them smoother to pass through in high speeds. This can be mistaken for a tilting system.
@@TealJoshThe ICs do not tilt and have never tilted.
The original selling point of the Pendolinos was their tilting, which was afaik only ever used in the Turku-Helsinki line, and recently taken out of use there too.
Pendolinos ride poorly and have uncomfortable seats.
Yup, all active tilting systems were disabled in June 2021, though the services that utilized it to go faster (Helsinki-Turku) were discontinued in 2020. Allegro trains - which are basicly the same thing but 1 car longer and 2mm narrower gauge - used to be scheduled 3 minutes faster than Pendolino and IC services between Kerava and Lahti, actually utilizing the 220 km/h top speed on a regular basis.
@@TealJosh Pendolinos are/were the only passenger train operating in Finland with active tilting system. IC trains do not have it, but the tracks are often times banked in corners to allow higher speeds, while not being too steep to cause problems for freight trains
220 km/h is what Pendolino runs at maximum speed. The timetables are also planned based on the train running at 220 km/h, on the sections where it is supposed to do so.
The train runs at those speeds it is allowed to, depending on the sections speed limit. If you recorded when the train ran at 180 km/h, it is mostly because of speed limits on that section, not because it didn't want to.
From a technical point of view, the infrastructure in Finland is very well suited for high speed trains. The track gauge is 1524 mm and the catenary line voltage is 25 kV, both which is very well suited for higher speeds.
i guess the 220 km/h may only be reached if there are major delays of the pendolino train
@@doc7austin No, that is what the train runs at the sections where it is allowed to do that, and then it is also supposed to that also. Otherwise the time schedule won't hold up.
@@doc7austin The physical rails in Finland are quite old, so built at a time before they would even dream of high speed passenger traffic, meaning curves are too right and the ground not reinforced enough (many networks were built during the time Finland was a dutchy of Russia IIRC, thats why we have the old russian gague)
Furthermore they have been negoected for a while now, so there are additional speed limits on bad track stretches and bridges. From what I gather its being improved now though, and depending on the next government after 4 years, a new high speed (300 km/h) stretch will be built between Helsinki and Turku, to be completed in 2031
@@SportSoulLife Kerava-Lahti rails geometry is designed for high speed (300km/h) usage and is a fairly new track. Pendolino moves there at 220km/h, however they don't use the tilting system anymore so they might have slowed down the speeds there too.
Strange that you found it narrow, it’s actually quite wide - over 3 metres (as compared to 2.9 in DE/AT.)Thanks to a more generous loading gauge than in west and Central Europe the trains in Finland have the roominess of American trains but use newer and better maintained equipment. Even in Norway and Sweden which have standard gauge tracks the trains are generally wider than German and Austrian ones.
Anyway, nice trip report. Much prefer this laid back style of video to the monetized “review” format which are bizarrely repetitive and they constantly interrupt their videos with distracting self-promotional stuff.
Always look forward to your uploads man, thanks.
I don't know why, but I also find Pendolino trains to be more narrow. I guess it's mainly because of the narrower doors (IC trains have wider ones)
Very nice and smooth riding on the train , hope is still working today! I don’t mind using for commuting daily !
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I really like the Pendolino, maybe because it's Italian like me. But I notice that this FIN model also shakes quite a bit at high speed. Is it my impression?
Thank you for yours beautiful videos 😊
I think you have to ride past Lahti if you want to see the trains stretch their legs.
great video as always. I have a question what happened to the sm6 trainsets who were used for allegro services ?
Sitting unused in a depot. They belong to a separate the equipment company, co-owned by VR and RŽD.
VR bought out RZD from the co-ownership in December, so now the 4 Sm6 trainsets are being prepared for service only in Finland.
@SIperianSusi83 Are you sure that VR bought out RZD ?
@@doc7austin They did. RZD stopped paying their financial duties regarding the loans for the trainsets, so VR used its option to buy RZD's share which resulted in full ownership of thre trainsets. They did it to avoid Karelian Trains from going bankrupt.
How did VR transfer money to RZD ? Anyway, its fine.
Nice video. Whats the song title?
Our train consists of "only" 6 passenger cars. Seeing how empty it is I would have thought that one or max 2 cars would be sufficient. OK: the restaurant car was pretty full so let's add another car.
These trains are very spacious, at least compared with Gerrman ICEs.
Finnish railways have a larger loading gauge than their west/central European counterparts so their trains are much roomier (like US and Russian trains).
Bigger countries with populations living farther apart have bigger loading gauges. The Russian version of the Siemens Velaro train set is roomier than the ICE3 trainsets in Germany, the Finnish Vectron loco is bigger than the European version of the Stadler KISS trainsets used in US and Russia are absolutely massive. Most Swedish and Norwegian are also quite a bit bigger than in continental Europe. The UK has the smallest loading gauge out of these countries and the trains can be really cramped.
@@basstrip73That's true but at least the German loading Gauge is large enough to allow broader trains as the newer ICEs are.
There are two versions of Pendolinos. The 250kmh version do not have tilting, but the slower versions (I think to 200kmh but not sure) do have it.
BTW, instead of "High Speed", you should use "Express". A TGV capable of 350kmh but used at only 100kmh would not be high speed.
200 km/h is the limit of the HST term.
There is also little mistakes in this video pedolino departure time 11.49 and then passing henna 11.00 ????, mäntsälä 11.07, haarajoki 11:14 etc.
that is because my camera was not properly set to finnish time zone
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Very nice , I am ready to go and visit but this “ pandemic “ cut me off !
Is somebody know if is still working ? …..
the Finnish Pendolino´s are still in daily use
...I understand why you don't want to do commentaries... BUT... that is too very bad!...It would be great to have an explanation of what we are seeing... And then there are the economic and sociological explanations about the regions you travel through!... Thanks... just the same!...
you can read all the explanations in the subtitles
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CZcams: The First Railway connecting China, Russia, and Mongolia has opened
This is an example of the other extreme... There is a read text... full of bureaucratic gibberish... repeated several times to please the president, ministers, and assorted bureaucratic goons in the government of Mongolia... There is not a simple map to locate the railway line... and there is no real information...
1st class is much better on the swiss pendolino. It has a 1 + 2 configuration. I travelled last spring from Zurich to St. Gallen on such a train and it was a pleasant ride.
I've ridden in a 1+2 Finnish pendolino, but that was ages ago. It had the (original?) cheap-feeling plasticky seats.
Remember that Finland have wider track gauge, 1524 mm. So a 1+2 configuration is just waste of space.
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