Big Hits, Big Misses on 2024 Chevy Silverado EV RST After First Look
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- The dynamic duo of Tim Esterdahl and Jill Ciminillo take a first look at the 2024 Chevy Silverado EV RST. They go over every practical aspect of the truck and discuss the big hits and big misses on the Silverado EV.
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This thing weighs 2000lbs more than a Chevy 3500 srw.
The brake wear, tire wear, and suspension component wear will be incredible!
Not so much on the brake wear because of brake regeneration. Brakes last much longer on EV's and they are all heavy.
@DaveInCanada081 You have it backwards this truck will have minimal brake wear - regenerative braking is done with one petal drive. Trims without the air suspension are very well tuned and will not pose an issue. Tire wear will be an issue. That 2000lbs will be useful for stability while towing any trailer over that 3500srw towing identical item. This is a very useful pick up truck. Price is high upfront, however 1/4 the operating cost when charged at home. That will be a significant saving over the life of this truck. This truck is a winner.
@@kelviskelvis7140 very good points. I think you are right and I am wrong. Thank you.
Regenerative braking will save on brake wear but the other wear factors are correct. The biggest issue I have heard raised is that these things are so heavy that guard rails are ineffective against them and collisions with other vehicles are going to be very deadly.
@@hochhaul I highly doubt guardrails are engineered for such a light weight of 8k pounds. How about an f250 towing 15k pounds. Or common box trucks that are tall and probably weigh 15k +. Just not realistic
Thanks GM for the designing a impressive looking EV Truck, I saw a Tesla CB on the road and it looked so impractical and just silly.
I have an early CT reservation but haven’t heard anything about delivery. I’ve also seen others in my area which infuriates me. It’s a let down that the CT under delivered their specs. When i heard about this truck, its everything the cybertruck should have been and I’m the first to preorder the Chevy in my area. I’m hoping it’s true that I’ll get my Chevy in July and i can cancel my cybertruck.
@@xLopez210x I believe you are making a good decision. I am not a CT hater just feel they missed a opportunity to put out a Truck with amazing tech and still let their talented designers do what they do best
I’ve owned trucks all my life. However, never a mid gate. Seems ok, but having an open cabin in the dead of winter or summer just don’t know. My current truck is a short bed. With the tailgate down, I can easily haul 10’ long material. Longer and I use my utility trailer. I like the Chevy EV truck but way beyond what I can afford.
@@scruffy4647 sounds like you already have a capable vehicle and figured out your loading setup
Elon needs to swallow his pride and make nice with some experts in the auto industry. He wants to approach car building from outside of the box, but most of the issues with the CT so far are issues that wouldn't exist if he had auto industry experts. Rainwater intrusion, traction control issues, sharp edges on panels, etc. Even the reliance on the touchscreen interface to do certain things... yeah it's the futuristic vibe they went for but it shouldn't require sliding fingers on the screen to change directions and searching through huge menus to find the power off button.
Silverado Duramax with midgate: take my money now.
Silverado PHEV with midgate: maybe take my money (probably, lol!)
EV, still not for me right now, but like a lot of the design features here.
The midgate on the Avalanche used to get people excited, until they realized how much cost it added while reducing visibility and it tended to leak and rattle. I went through that many years ago.
@@plmn93let’s hope they fixed that with this one lol.
$96000??? Is this thing made in Mexico, and they forgot to switch from Pesos to Dollars?
It’s a full EV, 1st Gen truck, and fully loaded RST. I’m surprised it’s under 100k given the cybertruck, lightning, and Hummer are all well over 100k with crappier range.
The design engineering staff was working overtime on this truck. It’s really nice to see the ingenuity and creativity from the designers. The EV technology is in its infancy and will get better with advances in battery and charging technologies. Nice review and can’t wait for your driving impressions. 👍 I ran across a factoid that a new vehicle has like 10,000 people who work on it from the bean counters, advertising, R&D, engineers…
And now a lot of them are gonna be laid off when this thing tanks.
@@nemesis656 Yep it's hard to believe any "bean counters" worked on this thing. Any that did deserve to be fired.
Some of the Rivian charging locations in the Eastern Sierra are pull through.
At 350W the charge cables need to be short. 500 amps can make a lot of heat if you let it. So yeah charge port placement needs to be a priority
They should just have more than one charge port
The conductors are big and heavy. And you’d need to add a way to detect which port is active and isolate the unused port.
Not really difficult. Just more money on an already pricy machine.
Excellent video with both of you!
Honestly, I really have to give GM credit. This thing is very well done. Will it wear out tires quick? Sure, but if I could afford this, tires every 30K miles are nothing. To me, it's a hell of a lot more useful than a Raptor R or TRX.
Sure but it's not more useful than a truck that costs 60% as much.
@@plmn93 Sure but that can be said of any top-tier models. An F150 Platinum is over $90k, same with a Ram Tungsten. This is not for the entry level or even the mid-tier buyer.
I used to have two sets of tires for my vehicles. It was expensive at the time but i never needed to replace tires too often cuz this.
@@xLopez210x Well yeah. 30K miles using one set or 60K miles using two sets. Except using two sets costs you more because you need additional wheels.
@@Dusdaddy facts
Needs about a $46,000 discount to be reasonable for the average consumer.
I love the midgate pass through. I have owned 2 Avalanches in the past. Not a fan of it being an EV. It's a hassle going to a fast charger area. But I really like the huge battery where I won't have to be charging up every 50 yards like the Lightening, Rivian, or Cybertruck. You should be able to tow stuff longer than about 100 miles in Winter before desperately needing to recharge.
When Jill is flying down the highway, at, say, her normal 88 miles per hour, and when she hits a bug, what is the last thing to go through its mind?
"I want THAT"! The midgate is a game changer, the CB truck would be a more incredible machine if it had it but look at the issue their having with the camper their selling...
Yea, the CT camper is a joke. It’s like they took someone who has never camped before and tried to engineer it. There are so many DIY guys making their own campers that could have done a better job lol
removing car play will prevent me from buying anything GM without it. They better bring that back because im not buying subscriptions to use my dang screen.
You can use your phone's hotspot to use the nav system. All other features don't require a subscription.
@@hochhaul except I want my Apple Maps, music etc
I give GM credit the range is the gift to we truck warriors! The weight is another thing, but an Avalanche nothing wrong with ths Cadillac version,i loved it.❤ A El Camino would had placed the iceing on the cake!
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Concur with the El Camino. A Maverick fighter EV would be amazing.
The charge port has to be out front if you're planning to tow. Otherwise you'll be un hitching the trailer every time you charge. Ford has it out front. Cybertruck and Silverado in the rear.
Need more pull thru chargers
Gas stations figured it out a long time ago! Also squeegee and trash can! Canopy would also be really nice in the rain or snow.
I feel like chargers are still in a test phase because gas has been around for so long that nobody is sure if electric would catch on. Now that it’s becoming more normal, they are playing catch up and tesla is the only company trying pull thru stalls due to the cybertruck and semis. Now it’s a matter of gas stations or even the grocery stores, where chargers normally are, need to just get there placements right. It’s not that hard to install a charging station under a canopy or in New pull thru stalls if you can put them off in some random corner of the parking lot.
How much to fix the glass sun roof if baseball size hail breaks it.
If you to have to ask you can’t afford it. 😄
A lot, but most cars are coming out with these types of sunroof.
More like what protects your head if you're in a rollover?
@@plmn93 You aren't aware of all the other brands that have been selling trucks with these huge sunroofs for years now? Modern trucks basically have a roll cage thanks to the high strength steel pillars. They are tested for rollover safety.
It's a great looking truck and I'm not a fan of Chevy. I do agree that this should be called the Avalanche.
EV-alanche!
@@mikeflanary642 or just Silverado EV
I have a Chevy Avalanche and I love the pass thru, but I have never removed the rear window, always just put things under the cover. I will miss it when I get something new this summer, but the ev is not going to work for me at this time.
It's a Avalanche. Period!!!! Should not be called a Silverado, it's like the Mustang Mach E advertising.
They put a midgate on the high end version that does not need it and they leave it off the work truck which would actually use it .
Same thought.
Everyone's got their preferences. As a welder, I'll be towing and working with this truck. I dig the mid gate for hauling my toys, setting up a camper, and bringing my dogs along. I don't want to juggle multiple trucks for work and play. This setup is perfect for my lifestyle. But hey, to each their own!
If they would just think about use ability at charge station like they have gas stations with a pull through setup it would be helpful.
Seriously, who is the demographic for this vehicle? Do they actually think people will buy this? Or is it just a show piece?
People who eat their snickers bars upside down so they can feel the veiny side on their tongue
Yeah, or like people who bite into a whole 4-pack of KitKats sideways instead of breaking them apart. Or those who buy string cheese and just take a big bite instead of peeling it. Maybe even those who eat Oreos without twisting them apart and licking the filling first. They’re definitely a unique bunch
Jill is the GOAT!
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I was wondering when the Chevy E truck was going to be available. I haven’t heard/seen a lot of marketing/promotion for it. Ram’s E trucks are coming soon as well. It seems like since the ups and downs of the Lightning, there hasn’t been much hoopla lately.
For real, i have an cybertruck reservation since announcement and haven’t heard dick about my truck. I literally heard of this Chevy on a CZcams video maybe a month ago (not even a huge announcement) and i drove over to my Chevy dealer and placed a preorder. They said i was the first one at that location to order one and it’ll be here in July. So crazy.
Why do engineers have to make things so difficult have the tow hooks exposed it's a truck God sake! I think Jill wants one!
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The Trailboss has front tow hooks
Electric in Colorado/Canyon coming?
I wish! I want a $50k electric truck with decent range and a Tesla type connector.
And easily fit in home garages and city parking
How does the work truck have carplay but the rst does not?
No CarPlay in GM EVs. It’s so the in house navigation will display a route with charging stations and charging time built into the navigation.
The EV work truck that was released last year has the old operating system, but starting with the RST and all EVs from GM produced moving forward, with the new operating system, there is no CarPlay.
I was gonna say my wife has the 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV and it does have a apple car play but she doesn’t have the navigation routing to chargers or charging thing information.
Two different infotainment systems. The work truck has the older system, the RST the newer system used in current LT and higher trim Silverado trucks.
I always agree with Jill....No Matter What!
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Simp.
Neat Truck, Nice range, not sure how much the midgate would be used, seems like a PITA. Glass roof is useless just adds weight and another thing to leak and or replace. Either way it’s costly.
I actually find the midgate super useful for hauling my toys, building a camper setup, and transporting my dogs. It's really practical for my needs. But I totally get your point about the glass roof. I own a Model Y, and I never really use the glass roof to look up. It gets insanely hot, so I had to buy a sunshade and never take it off except in winter. I agree that it's an extra thing to worry about.
Too heavy, too much money. Neat truck but I don't see how they will sell very many of these things.
I get what you’re saying, but I think this truck really stands out among EVs. It’s got a killer range, super-fast charging, tons of interior space, plenty of power outlets, and it can tow a lot. Plus, it’s packed with advanced tech. If they upped their marketing game, more people would notice it instead of just hyping the Cybertruck. And let’s not forget, it’s a full-size pickup, unlike those mid-size EVs. For anyone looking for a versatile, powerful electric truck, this one’s a total win.
It's really targeting that niche market that includes the Cybertruck. Those people are not looking at normal fullsize trucks with ICE powertrains. I don't think you'll see tons of these sitting in dealer lots like we did with the Lightning. Low production volumes, inventory only in areas where consumers are more interested in EV's and they have the income to purchase one.
$96k
Long charge time
Degraded cold weather performance
I'm sure everyone can hardly wait to line up for this electrical disaster waiting to happen.
Lets get real tim its way too much cash. They will only get more ex3
The off-road focused Silverado EV Trail Boss has front hooks.
Correct.
I’ve seen trucks come and go as well as worked on trucks and jeeps. I figured if anyone wants them bad enough on their vehicle they can just get a new bumper. I’ve seen other stock Silverados that people customize with badass bumpers and I’ll probably do the same for this one. I’m expecting (maybe lying to myself) that my custom RST will be better than the stock EV Trail Boss.
Looks-wise, I like it. But that is where it stops. Putting all the politics aside, there are three reasons I am against EV's.
1. The lack of a robust charging network, especially for those without the ability to have a charge station at their home. If you want EV's to be mainstream, there has to be as many charge stations as gas stations, and they have to be reliable.
2. Range, Range, Range. In colder climates, range declines. In doing truck stuff, range declines. With towing, range declines. And without the ability to fill up at a gas station and get 100% in just a few minutes, charging becomes more of an obstacle than a convenience.
3. Price of an EV vs spending that premium on gas. This is a $100,000 truck. You can get a really nicely loaded Silverado for less than $80,000. Assuming 20mpg and gas around $3.50 per gallon, $20,000 can buy a lot of gas, sometimes equivalent to over 150,000 miles worth of driving.
My dad bought a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee with the V6. He just drove to Florida. On the highway, he was averaging over 28mpg. When he was filling his gas tank, he was able to get over 600 miles per tank. If that were an EV, he would have needed to charge (to 80%) at least twice for each 5 minute stop at a gas station. His 18 hour trip from Florida to Michigan would have been much longer if each charging stop would be between 30-60 minutes long. EV's will eventually have their place in this world, but the world is not ready for them yet...they are toys for the rich.
I get your concerns, but EVs are already making huge strides. The charging network is expanding rapidly, especially with Tesla’s infrastructure, which is great for road trips. Next year, the NACS design will become the standard, making things even better. When I’m road-tripping, I enjoy the 10-45 minute stops to eat, play with my dogs, and visit interesting places like the world’s largest truck stop. Charging costs are about 1/3 of what I’d spend on gas, and there’s no maintenance due to fewer moving parts.
The Silverado EV currently has the most range of any EV on the market. Plus, anything I’ve towed with gas vehicles gets reduced mileage anyway, so it’s not like EVs are at a disadvantage there. While the upfront cost is higher, the long-term savings on fuel and maintenance often make EVs more economical. And let’s not forget the environmental benefits.
I also like Jeeps and even own a ‘92 YJ, but for traveling cross-country, not everyone wants to be in a 600-mile Cherokee. Your dad’s road trip example is valid, but with more fast-charging stations and increased range, EVs are becoming more viable for long trips too. EVs aren’t just ‘toys for the rich’ - they’re the future of sustainable transportation.
Pull it in that nice barn turn the lights off....😮
I like tech and try to stay open-minded. Hard pass on a $90k Ridgeline.
With that price point it’s not gonna sell well
The price system is beautiful in the fact they can adjust. Right now a model Y is about 39K, in 2022 it was 59K. If this isn't in your price point just be patient.
It's competitive with the Cybertruck and that's the small market this seems to be targeting. I suspect that GM knows this is a low volume truck meant to strategically target higher income areas that have been more receptive to EV's. You won't see these filling up dealer lots in rural areas (a mistake that Ford did with the lightning from what I have seen).
Yep exactly. Putting chargers in the dark corner of a parking lot isn’t where it is. Just because Tesla does it doesn’t mean that is how it needs to be done. Hopefully at some point we’ll start seeing some gas stations being converted into charge stations as most are in prime locations
Gotta get power there. Charging 10 of these things at the same time requires roughly the same amount of electricity as a town of about 3,000 people. The logistics don't really scale.
@@plmn93 Charging 10 Silverado EVs at once uses about 2,000 kWh, due toa 200kW battery, but a town of 3,000 people uses around 35,000 kWh daily. The logistics are tough, but not as extreme as your comparison suggests.
@@xLopez210x "At the same time" is what I said, and what I meant but didn't specify is quick charging, which is what you would expect at a "gas station" type setup. If you are charging 10 per hour that would equate to 48,000 kWh over the course of a day. Now they may not be that busy 24/7, but you still have to account for that maximum rate and that is nearly impossible to do at scale.
@@plmn93 I understand the concern about the potential demand from quick charging at scale. However, it’s important to note that not every charging station will be at full capacity 24/7. Many advancements are being made in grid management and renewable energy integration to support this growing demand. Plus, the convenience and cost savings of EVs, along with their environmental benefits, make them a worthwhile investment. As infrastructure continues to improve, these logistical challenges will become more manageable. Unless I’m misunderstanding the whole discussion.
@@xLopez210x Even if batteries hold more power and charging gets quicker, the amount of electricity needed does not change and getting there will take decades, if it is even possible at all in an era where the most efficient forms of power generation are not politically possible. I think EVs have their place, but not in the numbers governments are pushing. The math doesn't work.
Nice avalanche!
i love the truck for it's utility, price and range. BUT!! I will be waiting for The GMC electric truck. I prefer that interior. that's the one I will be getting.
It's funny, someone did an A/B comparison between the current interior of an uplevel Chevy and GMC truck. They were 99% alike aside from the graphical design on the display screens, steering wheel, and some other minor trim pieces. It isn't until you compare a Denali Ultimate to a High Country where the interiors diverge a bit more.
Just like the Avalanche, the midgate is still a PITA. Why couldn't they use the stuff from the Envoy XUV? All motorised and push button.
9,000 lbs? Like 3,000 more than the Cyber truck? This negates any advantage over ICE trucks
The weight difference doesn’t negate the advantages of EVs. For one, the environmental benefits are huge-less pollution and lower carbon footprint. Plus, I’d rather spend $12-20 on a full charge than $65+ on gas for the same range. EVs also offer smoother, quieter rides and have fewer maintenance issues compared to ICE vehicles. The weight is a small trade-off for all the benefits you get in return.
How is this an environmental 'advantage'? When we have millions of 9,000 lb plus cars on the road, what do u think happens to the roads, which are in bad shape already? & the immense amount of mining, the gigantic 100 khw plus batteries that have no 2nd life usage at all & end up in waste fields, etc?
@@dwnrange7812 Your concerns about the environmental impact sounds like they are coming from a Karen who doesn’t do proper research. EV batteries are increasingly being recycled and repurposed for second-life applications, such as energy storage systems, not only through Tesla but through other third party companies we’ve seen on other CZcamsrs channels. Advances in battery technology and recycling processes are continually improving to address these issues. As for road wear, you’re just ok with what regular 9,000lbs ICE vehicles are doing to the road and well as ICE plow trucks during winter but EV’s are the problem…. Ok?
EVs are part of the shift towards a more sustainable future, reducing overall emissions and pollution. While no solution is perfect, the long-term environmental benefits of EVs outweigh the current challenges. It’s about making progress towards a cleaner, more efficient transportation system.
@@xLopez210x typical limo left wing hypocrisy, the kind that thinks that if I substitute my gass guzzling ICE SUV for a Tesla do drive 1/4 mile to the nearest Starbucks for my soy latte macchiato, I'm now Green. It's the conveyance, it's our spoiled entitled First World lifestyle that's the problem. How many kids slaving in the toxic cobalt mines in the Congo have to keep suffering for your insufferable, selfish indulgences? Because you actually think if you're driving a $100k EV monster that you're actually saving the world???
@@xLopez210x There isn't less pollution, the carbon footprint just gets shifted to the electrical generation sites.
The battery pack is so big it completely defeats the purpose of a ev. Causes as much pollution to create as drinking a v8. Plus the battery cost is enormous. Accident will total the truck
The buttress isn't structural FYI - you can see it from the inside bed, it's for aerodynamic performance. Otherwise thanks for trolling the Avalanche comments - yes it happens to look like it because of those wings. Well trucks borrow features from each other, get over it folks, it's a Silverado.
You did notice the bed is attached to the cabin right? It’s not a traditional body on frame truck.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Of course but the main structural rigidity of Ultium is via the battery pack. If you look at the Munroe Hummer battery teardown they incorrectly say it's overbuilt. It's not, that heavy/Wh pack is designed that way so you can have structural rigidity, even with removable glass roof. My point is that the sails are not for structural rigidity as you said (that's provided by the pack and elsewhere) but for aero, they pulled every aero trick out of the book for this one.
The Trailboss has front tow hooks, and they're red. Because OFFROAD truck.
Quit drinking the Kool Aid
96k is a Bargain for a Truck and a Big Ass Barn...
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work truck does not quality i know i had to return my check to bank after they couldnt get the ev rebate to work
Weird. We were told it did.
No thanks
They'll sell about as many as the Hummer, it's an Avalanche not Silverado
What EV purveyor has met their “claimed” range or come any where close to it? Bueller? Bueller? The only good thing about EV is it great for ScrewTube content. The market will always win and EV will eventually lose, especially with trucks.
Your acting like somebody's going to off-road this 4 ton truck. If it gets stuck you will have to call a trucking company to get a massive tow truck used for over 5 ton trucks to recover this overpriced monstrosity. If this is the future then everyone must be rich cause I don't see any of these trucks selling for less than the work truck which cost over 70 grand. Chevy will lose on this vehicle just like Ford is losing on its electric vehicles. Hopefully this time they go bankrupt the government doesn't bail them out.
I agree
GM and Ford or only building these because the government is basically forcing them due to unrealistic CAFE standards.
People will try it. Look at the Cybertruck guy who got stuck on the beach.
They’re trying to replay the Tesla strategy ($250k car, followed by $100k car, followed by $40k car) … but with trucks.
The problem with truck owners is that they want to use their truck like a car 99% of the time and 1% of the time have it available to do some insane task like tow a house 3000 miles without a piss break or stopping to refuel.
@cybertrk they seen Tesla market share and think they can do that. What they forget is that Tesla is more than just a vehicle manufacturer.
That whole truck is a $96K wart. Put that cab on a standard GM pickup and now we're talkin'!
They totally copied Ram with that center console design. It’s a nice truck, it’s just way too big. Why do the rims need to be 24 inches?
Ram didn't come up with that, it was in first used in FCA minivans for years. Since Ram went to a minivan shifter, might as well use the minivan center console too.
Couldn't stand the Chevy Avalanche but Honda sure did a good thing with that design motif which was a great design motif in their mid size pickup truck on a car chassis which is still being pushed out by Honda...with a V6 Toyota! ... and is a way better truck than this. Way to heavy which is kind of funny to say for a full sized pickup truck. Verdict: all go for Cybertruck and Ford can breathe a sigh of relief as well. Even Rivian might come out swinging in response..
The RL sucks. Terrible powertrain and it's styling seems to appeal to buzz cut overweight lesbians.
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Frunk.... why don't we call it what the Brits do: bonnet
Actually they call it a froot. Front boot.
@@jillciminillo well, I tried!
Also disagree that EV's are only for light towing, because of the truck you are reviewing here. Real world tests are getting 500+ miles (see TFL). If you calculate out a 20%-80% charge that's a 40 minute charge time for 300+ miles driving even with a trailer (just don't drive fast and stupid) - that's plenty for most people including long distance, because its a single charge on a tow day.
Can't handle her high pitch voice. Maybe back down her mic volume
just another glorified people mover truck that does not hold up to a real truck when it comes to towing. EV RST = fail trying to be a truck.
They aren't really marketing it as one nor are they forcing anyone to buy it. They sell 800k+ trucks each year and announced a year to two ago that they were developing their next-gen V8's. The EV RST is meant to compete head-on with the Cybertruck in markets where the Cybertruck is popular. It isn't being sold as a replacement for ICE powered trucks for the average truck buyer. They are happy to offer a wide variety of combustion engine powered trucks for those buyers.