Why do I recommend that tent? Hilleberg Enan vs Soulo vs Akto
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Which tent would I get of these three for wild camping hiking backpacking and travel and outdoor adventure pursuits
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I'm totally with you Tony re the Soulo, as in what's the point for most of us? And like you, I'd bypass the Soulo and go for a Nammatj 2. If the Nammatj 2 was good enough for Pen Hadow's world record first solo and unsupported ski to the North Pole, I'm sure it's good enough tor most of us! In fact, I hope you don't mind me saying Tony, but I was surprised that you invested in the Keron 4 when you already have the Nammatj 2, which would seem ideal for your Arctic plans? Just IMHO that's all 🙂.
Don't forget you can double-pole the Akto & Enan too. As I have both of these tents and they share the same pole, I have double-poled the Akto and it was absolutely bomber.
I bought the Akto in red for safety reasons for if I do ever use it in Arctic Scandinavia, and used that in the Spanish Pyrenees GR11 last year and I must say that after having the green Akto, the red one felt a much brighter and cheerier environment to be in, very pleasant!
After owning a DCF MLD Duomid (now dead), I'm tempted to buy the Silpoly Duomid fly to go with my existing solo Innernet, as the sense of space in that was exceptional. I stupidly used shorter pegs with that instead of the longer Eastman pegs Ron supplied, and I would definitely use the East man's next time as it's crucial that the tension is taught on a pyramid shelter, and my Duomid collapsed in Wasdale once due to my silly choice of alternative pegs.
These are all great shelters.. we're spoilt for choice! BTW the Wild Country Zephyros 1 looks like the bargain of the century. With Alpkit camping gear, a newbie needn't spend a fortune and still have a damned fine camp set up that needn't really be upgraded?
Brilliant comment I love the detail you always put in. Yeah I just wanted a big one lol once more experience then I might shrink lol let's see if any of those plans work out tbh I'd be quite happy trying something just pottering about . The duomid is fab absolutely agree longer pegs needed . On a longer backpacking trip MLD is my go to. I've a little jaunt planned in the moors soon and got the MLD ready ... dcf ts...
Yes there are cheaper great tent options by sounds of it.
I had to look up that Explorer he sounds nice didn't know him. I've seem a nammatj 2 used up there someone on yt. I like loads space lol and am mad 😆
I've a nammatj 3gt too 😆 but I like full back of keron nothing can blow in from back
@TonyHobbs I recommend Pen's account of his amazing journey in his book Solo and Unsupported. It's fascinating from a psychological view as much as anything. For example, he named his scrubbing brush Mavis and each morning would hold a meeting with 'Mavis' to discuss the days logistics, food rations, weather forecast and the expeditions general progress etc. A compelling read.
Tony I think you summarise these tents well and broadly agree with your conclusions. I have upgraded my Enan with a Nammatj 10mm pole and whilst this is about 50g heavier than the standard 9mm pole it adds considerable strength and rigidity to the Enan. Additionally utilising the additional pairs of guying points on either end of the Enan further helps. Nothing is perfect and I wish this tent had the Akto vent above the door and was a centimetre or two higher but less can be more!
I’ve got the Sand Akto and the Green Enan, and they compliment each other perfectly, I love them both. Used to use my Notch for Summer but for a little bit more weight you get so much more with the Enan. I love the rigidity of the porch, and having the additional space near the pocket next to me for stuff sacks, clothes etc. Pack Toter in the USA loves his which is why I got it!
That's a good combo . Enan three seasons and akto bit worse weather is nice and door can be sealed and vents fully sealed if needed. Thanks for comment
Chris Townsend used the Akto on his Munros and Tops walk. That’s when I realised the Akto was all the tent I needed. My first did not have the unnecessary little hood over the door zip, so I’m going back a bit. I have had condensation in the Akto, once amusingly in winter when my breath froze to the roof of the inner while I slept and then melted when a warm front came in. I had rain inside the inner! However, the main problem I had with my two Aktos was short fabric life because of UV damage so I’ve moved on to MLD’s robust fabrics. There’s also Hilleberg fabric flop on damp nights. I once saw a Nallo on a campsite in a forest at Sault where the fly had stretched so much that it was resting on the inner. Have Hilleberg fabrics improved? Does the sand coloured fabric last longer than the green? Of the three you demoed, I think I’d still go for the Akto. That u-shaped pole worried me, too.
@thedaftestnameicouldthinko8233 yeah it's a heck of a U lol 😆 so far fabrics ok but they not used much well my akto. I don't know how much Chris used the enan or soulo probably not huge amount. Great comment and info. Yeah I did door up at night if rained. Outer door. MLD rocks so much lol I don't know re hilleberg fabrics the nammatj 2 may have sagged a bit once in Scotland as Chris went around tightening up
Until trailstar and scarp before ts the akto was Chris favourite
Enan is very under rated. I have had an Akto and currently have Soulo and Enan, along with a Keron and Tarra for more remote /severe trips (skirts added etc). I consider the Enan just about the best back/bike packing shelter you can get to be honest for the weight to performance (which i have tested well past its design envelope).
Points to note if you have an Enan, the Nammatj 293 pole makes the tent alot more stable (for nearly zero weight and to be honest on the single hoop tents i think hilleberg missed a trick not using the 10mm pole as default), also add/divide the side guys for extra pegging points to the ground (4 instead of 2) and also use bungee cords on the 4 corners to allow movement in rocky terrain but keeping form. As for condensation, always use a ground sheet helps massively on vegetation and a simple clothes peg on the door can help with extra ventilation.
The one thing that they missed a trick on was the Akto rain cover on the Enan. I would take the Enan for pretty much everything solo uk wise except the most severe of a storm, or say a long remote camp Scotland in Winter where medium term forecasts are not to be trusted. Note one thing i would also add, people saying 6ft and room, im just over 6foot and have no issues with headheight on the Enan, especially compared to the Akto in wind at the ends, its taller in the middle at the ends.
Wow thanks for such a fab detailed comment
Good topic ! I have the soulo now I have to buy the Enan also … ;-) you can not have too much camping stuff ;-) Keep on the good job Tony!
Many thanks 😊 will do
Happy to have your support 😊 now buy that enan 😆
I really love all the Hilleberg Tent. My next one I think it Allak 3😊
They are fab
Good reviews Tony and all valid points..... for those watching and deliberating the point re head and shoulder height should not be overlooked, thus why I chose the Soulo; as a 6ft and broader across the shoulders the Akto and Enan was too close fitting; the debate for me was Soulo Vs Unna as wanted freestanding. Cheers all.
Excellent points yup I'd agree if bigger and can carry . My main concern for soulo is ventilation is terrible vs other two. So get nammatj as free standing immaterial as pegs needed anyway. But absolutely it'll fit some people's list exactly. Brilliant comment thanks 😊
@@TonyHobbs Freestanding was important for me as sometimes kayak camp on rocks and sandy beaches...try putting up a tunnel tent in those conditions!! Not much fun! So the Soulo met all those needs without having to buy more tents...one fit for all my purposes.
@DorsetPiper. Perfect example of when freestanding actually really helpful not the look it's freestanding I can move it a bit but freestanding due to nothing to hold it down proper use 😀
great vlog brother... i might be the only one for the soulo... big space and 4 season. im a bit of a weirdo who likes 2man tents because i like loads of room. i dont mind the weight on a bigger tents .i just take less buiscuts. lol . thanx for a great vlog
Save on food and get light other kot lol 😆 join the weirdo club most welcome here 😄
Soulo killer - a legendary term. 😂
(Only a Hilly can surpass a Hilly, Andy)
Thx for a great video.
PS Have the Akto with footprint (to minimize condensation) and use a Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL1 for summer time. I plan to sell the B.A. for the Enan. Setting up the B.A. (with footprint) isn't that fun when it's rainy...
Great comment lol yeah only a hillie can beat hillie lol gotta love a tuber 😆 I've never bothered with footprints 😆 enjoy your camps and tents they fab
Hi Tony
Interesting test and demo
But I will stick to a tarp
Cheers
Can’t beat lightweight setups many thanks for watching
I've actually had 2 Hilleberg Enan. I really like the tent and spent a few nights in really wind and rain. If I'm not mistaken the Enan was the first tent in the yellow label series that Hilleberg released.
First the ventilation and condensation issue that some people complain about. First, don't close any of the vents in the ends. I've never felt the need to close those even in heavy vind and rain. I even considered cutting of the flaps since I never used them. Now said that yes if there is no wind the enan will get some condensation, it will get more then say something like the Tarptent Notch that I also have. Is it a huge problem? No! The enan is a bit weird in a way since it's in the yellow label series but doesn't share all the details that the other tents in the series have. I'm thinking of the curved outer tent. The outer tent goes all the way to the ground on the Enan. None of the other tents in the yellow label series does that. If I could change something on the Enan that would be it. My theory is that the curved outer design was implemented after the Enan was designed. I strongly think that hilleberg should update this to make the ventilation better, this would also save a bit of weight.The Enan is also a little to warm in the summer for me. Since the inner is mostly solid apart from the opening side and the outer goes all the way to the ground it hampers the airflow somewhat. It's a good 3.5 season tent in the shoulder seasons as long as it's not heavy snowfall that will cover the vents in the ends. Thing is... it's 1.2 kg. For 600grams more you get the Niak wich is so much bigger and has very good airflow. You can also sleep 2 in the Niak. The niak is to me also a better tent in the summer. This is why I sold my Enan. I now have a tarp tent Notch and a hilleberg Niak. The notch is about the same weight if you also count the trekking poles (850 g with tent and pegs) and has better airflow and 2 vestibules. A better summer tent for less weight.
I hiked the Kungsleden last year from the end of august to mid september. Ground damp, no wind et cold weather. The condensation was horrible.
Which tent?
@@TonyHobbs Enan
@jacqueshuard9302 did you have all doors open ie inner and outer plus both vents? If absolutely no breeze then more tricky. I guess I've been lucky.
Awesome share, I have done that a few times
Great to hear thanks for watching my little attempt 😀
“Your lack of ventilation disturbs me!!” Brilliant 😂😂😂
Use the Force Luke lol I can't remember the film or exact word vs ventilation . I think Vader to Luke maybe original trilogy 🤔 no I remember... in meeting room start of original star wars to one of his under lings with Peter cushing in room but I still can't remember his word lol
Great comparison, Tony. Cheers
Thanks Andy stay safe
I went back and forth between the Soulo and Nammatj 2 for several years. In a heavy snow region, the Soulo will be much faster to pitch as you have a significantly smaller footprint to stomp downand wait to solidify before pitching the tent. Plus the Soulo being freestanding is an aid to quick pitching. But the space inside the Nammatj 2 and the ventilation .... makes such a difference to liveability
Enan to Soulo is a bit of a non-starter. I love the Enan for fast and light in the summer. But I wouldn't put it atop a mountain in severe weather. They are arrows in your quiver, suited for different conditions
Hi Stusrt
Exactly correct. Many could use Enzn lower and save weight get em out in summer lol
Nammatj 2 is a beauty
Love the reference to Geoff Capes ! 😂
Where does time go lol 😆
I think your choice of sleeping accommodation is right given your dislike of enclosed spaces and there looks like enough space for your needs 😊
Many thanks 😊
For extra ventilation, It is possible to lift Soulo up about 2-3cm by placing a little rock under every pole cup.
That sounds good option if available and needed thanks 😊
I think that you have missed a few very vital points about the Soulo in this video Tony. The Soulo wasn't designed for casual wild camping or lightweight back packing. The Soulo is in a class of its own , it's a high performance tent and the Acto and Enan are a better choices for casual wild camping and lightweight backpacking so you are kind of comparing Apples and Oranges. If you went to the Alps, Pyrenees, Dolomites , Himalayas, Rockies etc etc or any other mountain range where the potential of heavy snow such as the Lake District, Snowdonia and Scotlands mountains in winter time conditions anyone with an ounce of common sense would choose the Soulo all day long and in them conditions the extra weight would not even be an issue. The Enen and Acto would make lovely coffins in prolonged heavy snowfall and you would most likely suffocate to death because the Acto ( never tried the Enen) is in your face in just heavy winds without the weight of snow plus those air vents on the lower ends would be no use whatsoever when they are under the snow. I think a lot of people negatively judge the Soulo for use on low lying moorland and mountains which is naive at best and a lot of people just buy the Soulo because ts a really good looking tent but they haven't really got a clue what they are buying and if they are new to mountains and not that fit they all start moaning and complaining thats its too heavy and start picking on irrelevant points. The Soulo is a performance tool and has a specific use. When i watched the video of Paul Messner saying that he has replaced his Soulo with that Rab Event mountain tent i unsubscribed because that told me a lot about his knowledge and experience in the mountains. I see a lot of people in big boots and gaiters wearing fjallraven trousers carrying rucksacks the size of a small car and i immediately think that the old saying "All the gear , no idea ", should apply. Lots of people want to look the part but dont understand where and in what conditions certain types of clothing and gear is appropriate . In short if people want to camp on mountain summits , especially in harsh conditions and you want to be certain that you are not going to end up in a desperate situation then you need a bombproof 4 season tent that isn't going to collapse under a snow loading so in my opinion The Soulo is perfect and theres lots of other much lighter tents out there for everything else . ATB
OOh wow a great long detailed comment, fab thanks. I agree with you. In those conditions yes. I think the point I'm making is that most who buy it might be as well of saving weight for what they do with it (I know look at me) and get lighter, find sheltered spot and maybe walk further from saving weight. The Soulo not designed for casual I agree... but most use and such see above. If you went to some of those places would you not choose a Nammatj over Soulo though for space etc? But I agree Soulo very suited for those conditions. But must dont use it for that. I think PM lacks a lot of knowledge out there in different situations and seems to not know how to even pitch many tents (his Duomid pitch wasn't very good - if he'd have asked me I could have joined him to teach him how to pitch it!) and that Rab isn't a touch on most tents, he used it once I think. The Soulo is probably a one trick pony, a VERY good one trick pony for those situations and conditions you mention I absolutely agree. I gave up on gaiters and boots long ago, I follow the lead of Chris. Heavy deep snow yes, its all but ridiculous in other conditions... but that is very much opinion and some might like the mental comfort... I agree 100% with ALL you say. If high mountain terrible weather snow etc Soulo. For the majority, get lighter walk further longer with better porch venting. Thanks for your comment.
@@TonyHobbs You're welcome Tony. I have got the Nammatj and i do like it a lot but i haven't used it more than 5 times so far because i only bought it last year and i like other tents too. I hurt my hip in a fall about 5 years ago and i really struggled for a while sleeping and leaning on my side so i sold my Soulo and started using the Nallo (i have had 2 Nallo's ) i liked the Nallo a lot but after watching a video by Scott the Lone Explorer now Its me ScottP i decided to buy the Nammatj which i now prefer over the Nallo but my hip has fully recovered now after much personal rehab and cutting out as much refined food as i can and avoiding all oils(its been an absolute game changer) So i have just bought another Soulo, managed to get an unused one and a footprint off eBay for £600 and it was still folded so i sold the footprint and the pegs as new and got £100 quid back so its only cost me £500 which i think is fantastic. BTW My first Soulo cost me £300 in 2010/11 , i bought it in Andorra when it was 2 euro to the pound and i sold it in 2019 for £700 which makes it one of the best investments i have ever made, especially if you factor in how many nights i used it which was well over 150. I always buy the best quality gear i can find because it always gets you a good chunk of money back when you get bored or fancy something different and decide to sell it, i wish women were like that 🤣
@Olan... Scott changes his name more than anyone lol it was on my mind the nammatj but must admit seeing his vid did get my mind moving. He then sold it. I'd never sell unless had too. It's a fab tent nammatj 2 and I'd use over soulo as in Scotland but we didn't walk far or I'd have taken duomid xl 😀 that was a great investment 😀
@@TonyHobbs 🤣 i do miss his videos even though i have bought 2 of his recommended tent which he then got rid of. I bought the Terra Nova Voyager after one of his recommendations too but i went against my policy of never buying an inner pitch first tent so i only used that twice and then it ended up on eBay 🙄
I don't know if any of you subscribe to Hilleberg's CZcams channel, but within it they do (or rather did) a great series called Talking Tents where Petra Hilleberg (CEO now of Hilleberg) interviews some fantastic/interesting guest Hilleberg users. One of them was Lonnie DuPrese and he told a story about how on a solo climb in Alaska he used a Soulo, and left it pitched before he went for a summit bid. A long, long time later after an exhausting successful summit bid he returned to his Solou to find it COMPLETELY buried in snow, squashing it flat. He dug it out and it just sprung right back up to normal, he unzipped it and just got back inside as though nothing had happened. So maybe those fears of the poles breaking are unfounded Tony? 🙂
As you say Olan, the Soulo is a very specific tent, and high altitude Alaskan peaks in winter are the Soulo's back garden.
You have been doing camping for a long time, your'e the expert on Weight/Comfort/Space ratio.
So.....
Hilleberg Soulo (red label) 2,4kg
Can you get hold of a
Hilleberg Anjan 2GT (Yellow label), for testing, It's 2,2kg.
It looks very spacious, on photos, and it has quite low weight for it size.
It would be interesting to hear your opinion about it.
Those guylines and linelocs look so huge to me
On soulo and akto they pretty decent lol bit thinner on enan but very capable
Hi Tony, just out of interest how do you think the Niak compares to the Enan in strong winds?
That's the one I'm borrowing from Chris too. That folded down with open door in a gust and inner blew in a lot. It wasn't great in wind and it's not pitched to ground it has those big gaps at bottom. I'll put my reputation on line lol 😆 what I have 😆 and I'd prefer to be in enan in strong breeze over niak imo 😉
I have the hilleberg Soulo and I have the fjallraven abisco light 1. A fjallraven abisco light is what the akto would be if they upgraded it. Take care out there.
Thank you you too
Thank you for this good compare tent video. Would I be able to use the Enan with a 35kg Vizsla dog? He would need to sleep in the sleeping area with me, is that big enough? They have only a very thin coat. then as info: All the 3 tents have a total space from 2,5 m2.
Yea but tight cosy very cosy. But I did get lassie over once and she went in that bit next to us back wall but she's 20kg 35 kg would be possible but very cosy. Dog longwise lol
Mmm interesting is that floor space all same there must be a design difference somewhere as soulo is narrower head foot by looks not measured and porch less but inner could be wider by a bit in middle. Very very interesting.
Ah re read m2 meaning volume? Yeah that makes more sense due to height of soulo and material pulled out.
@@TonyHobbs Thank you Tony for the answers. I think also it very cosy.
Yes the floor space off all the one person Hilleberg tents are 2,5 square meter.
@raymondlogister6828 ah gotcha yeah volume is cube lol mathematics never my thing. Back to my original thing where does it gain as it were as its narrower front back by the eye I must remember to measure one day . Is soulo longer maybe 🤔 great reply thanks great subs and viewers very helpful friendly
Tony, you’re a lovely chap but take a hint mate. Nobody has forty five minutes to listen to your opinions on a tent. Your videos would get twice as many views if they were half as long. Fifteen minutes is enough buddy, if you can’t get your message over in fifteen minutes you need to hire an editor!
Gave up worrying about that sort of thing long ago. Whilst I agree on time ti's what ti's and that's what we get what we get lol 😆 not paying editor fees lol on any event it's not my work then but a cut down thing. You're right. But if people want short which I know they do they got choices as everyone is short. I do the long version and tbh short long makes no difference to viewing generally .
@@TonyHobbs Fair enough Tony, I wish you well and you know what you're talking about, I just don't have the time for such long videos on relatively simple questions. All the best.
See you on the next shorter video if we ever get one lol all the best