Hi Tom, thanks for this excellent review of (in my opinion) a very underrated tent. I'm the wrong side of 65 now and have some minor mobility issues. Consequently I've been looking for a solo tent with plenty of internal space and ample headroom but which is still practical to carry. Initially I dismissed the Unna because I was under the impression it had no vestibule. After watching your review I've purchased the Unna and found it ideal for my needs. My expeditions nowadays are rather more modest than in years past and it handles with ease the worst conditions I'm likely to currently encounter. Very versatile tent.
Hey, Frederick thank you smooch for your thoughts and comments here sharing your opinion on the Unna. I am really glad that the Unna worked for you based on my review here.. It is a great little tent and after using it it could be on my next tent list... As I have got older.. space for moving inside the tent is more important and the Unna fits the bill here and is also high quality and strong enough. BUT I have a Samaya Assaut2 8K and thats really working for me tested over many camps....Its 1kg lighter with the same space and so far about 12 nights (all my camps in it) condensation free... best wishes and happy Christmas.. Tom
Thanks Tom, I've found the One Tigress bathtub ground sheet fits under the Unna perfectly. I'm thinking of using it like that without the inner tent during the warmer months. Or alternatively finding a lightweight mesh tent that will fit okay. I know Hilleberg can supply a dedicated inner but it doesn't save much weight and is of course very expensive. I've got the MLD Duomid with a mesh inner. I'll try that for size. I haven't actually checked but I think using the Unna as a single skin shelter or with a very lightweight mesh inner should fetch it down to around three and a half pounds. Take care and a merry Christmas to you as well.@@TOMHEANEY100
Great review, i bought my unna with 10mm hilleberg staika poles, its bombproof, george fisher were the only camping shop to sell me the unna with only 10mm poles, every other shop wanted me to buy the unna then buy 2 10mm poles, the unna with 10mm poles , the only solo tent you will ever need, ,cheers
Hey great to hear and I was super impressed with the flexibility, strength and space in the tent. That was really decent of George Fisher to sell it with the 10mm poles instead of the 9mm. There does seem to be a lot of users who go for this option. ATB Tom
That's a good choice if you're planning for windy mountain use. I had my Unna smashed in a storm in Sarek, northern Sweden a long time ago. The poles bent and cracked while I was sleeping with earplugs. First time in my life I had to shout "help" , as I was sitting in the collapsed tent preventing it from blowing away, and needed the attention of my mates in the other tent. The remaining Hilleberg tunnel tent was getting close to also giving up during the night so we retreated to lower protected grounds. After that trip, I patched up the rip in the pole channel some some dental floss & silicone and upgraded to the thicker poles. A tad heavier but worth it for sleeping with confidence. Overall, Unna is a great 4-season tent. I also bought the all-mesh inner for summer use. Nice with a small foot print and free-standing for kayaking trips when camping on rocks.
I’ll be honest, I favor the shares of experiences when the tent (or whatever equipment fails). I don’t particularly judge it has a mark against the gear. In the right conditions almost everything will eventually fail. So I appreciate the story 👍🏽
Only now I see I missed this video, but I have a nice excuse: I was wildcamping in Spain and France for two weeks. The Unna! That is the one I am using and I love it. Thank you so much Tom for your excellent videos, every time you publish a new one you make my day!
Hi Jasper, great to hear that you were out on a trip....I hope it was a great one and you enjoyed using that Unna. I really appreciate your support and many positive comments on my videos. ATB Tom
I’ve had a few Hillerberg tents but my all time favourite is the Unna. I use it mainly when kayaking in the Swedish archipelago so there’s a lot of pitching on flat cliffs. Besides the 10 mm poles I would recommend the mesh inner tent during the warm season. It makes it feel even bigger inside, the ventilation is great and you can sleep with the whole front open without getting eaten alive by mosquitos. I also bring a small cheap tarp to put under the floor. It protects it when the cliffs are sharp. And if the weather predicts many days of rain I’d like to bring along a Tarp 10. Gives you more space and can be used as extra wind protection too. On the whole; it’s extremely easy to use, very versatile and fits in really small spaces.. :)
Hi Ulf I really appreciate your comments and sharing your experience as a fellow Hilleberg user and particularly the Unna... I was surprised by the versatility and space of this tent both inner and vestibule. It's a great all round tent and very adaptable for varied conditions.... ATB Tom
Great review, Tom. The Unna is a tent that is rarely reviewed, so it was lovely to see one in action. I also thought the pace of the video was perfect!!! Thanks Phil
Hey Phil, thank you for commenting and watching. The Unna has a fair bit in common design wise to the Staika, but less durability, strength and weight. It is a super tent for one person with so much internal volume and useable space.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Great review homie👈🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. I picked up this joint a month ago you feel me. This tent ROCKS!!!! I enjoy bendy tents and spindrift i dont know why????🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Great review , I have the Unna and its a great tent . U picked up on some good points, I've watched many reviews from unna owners and even they often do not understand the Unnas benefits . As u mentioned u can raise the long sides for ventilation , I often raise the short width sides with my boots or stuff lying around the campsite , sticks and stones . Its free standing and the quality of materials is great , the water rating beats generally all non hillebergs especially the floor about 10000 roughly , , u could camp in a bog and stay dry :). Its the vestibule people do not understand, it has one anyway but its really easy to drop a corner of the inner and create loads of space for cooking or if its bucketing down I will drop the door inner corner and get in and change out of wet clothes before getting inside the inner. I've spent 14hrs in it once in wet windy winter weather and glad I had all that space:). Its a bit heavy for summer really but still great for summer bikepacking and kayaking trips:) 👍
Thank you for this detailed comment of your user experience. Yes until you actually start playing around with the tent its hard to appreciate its versatility and interior space. The waterproof rating and groundsheet thickness are two further plus points. ATB Tom
Hi Mechelle, The Unna... ,,,🤔💭 Another option for you . A super all-rounder but limited vestibule space for a longer trip.. A Hilleberg Nalo 2 is another option at the same weight here. More room inside, and decent Vestibule... The freestanding aspect of the Unna has many followers but personally I don't dig it at all. All tents need properly secured by pegs and a Nallo only needs 4 if there is no wind.. Select your camp ground carefully and you won't need to move it... Any other thoughts 💬 just ask and I will detail the pros and cons.. All the very best Tom
Another good detailed review Tom. I was surprised about the amount of vestibule space you can create, and very good idea to beef it up with 10mm poles. Good footage and editing too.
Really like that tent. Love the fact you can have the whole front open to admire the view if you are pitched in a scenic spot and the room it gives you for a relatively light weight. I hope Hilleberg don't increase the price after seeing this video . Thanks Tom for another engrossing video.
Hi Joe, great to hear your thoughts.... Having the whole front open is a great feature and it just gives so much space and openness to appreciate where you are. Good for star gazing too I reckon. really glad that you enjoyed this video. ATB Tom
Hey Jack I hope you are well. I really appreciate your positive comments. I do put lots of work into my reviews to try and make them a bit different. Hopefully my future ones will all be done in the actual mountains field testing.. ATB Tom
Thankyou Tom, this is a great review and I’ll now buy my Unna with 10mm poles when HB HQ have it back in stock week 13 . I was concerned about the ‘lack’ of vestibule, but you have covered that so well it’s now not a worry . Happy Hilleberg camping !
Hey Sue thank you for watching and commenting.. That's great that you got the information that you were looking for on the Unna.. Its a great tent with fantastic volume and comfort for one person. I Hope that you don't have too long to weight on sourcing one. You will love it.. ATVB Tom
Hi John, thank you for your comments over many of my videos now. It was a pity that I did not get the high winds that I was hoping for to properly test the tent. Apart from that its about knowing its limitations and getting the best out of it..... ATB Tom
Great informative video Tom as usual, what was useful for me and a surprise was the vestibule space which I didn't think it had so back on the try or buy list. Cheers and happy camping.
Hi Andrew, thank you for your comments. The vestibule space and options are highly underrated. Maybe it's because you don't expect it to be big and then it's a pleasant suprise...I would be tempted on buying one myself..
Great vid Tom! Hilleberg lend med one pre-production Unna when I hiked the Kungsleden back in the 1990s. Had my dog with me, we had a great time. Loved the tent, and actually suggested a few minor changes to Bosse. Those where the days!
Hey Ben good to hear about your experience with Hilleberg. They offer a great customer experience and their products are worth every penny. Few companies do this now as most survive and concentrate on cost cutting... You have to support quality... ATVB Tom
Hi Tom. Great to see you back. Only commenting now, as I was in the mountains, specifically Giant's Castle in the Drakensberg, since Friday. My one and only Soulo, came into her own. The wind Saturday night- Sunday morning, was absolutely wicked. Always nice watching one of your reviews. Perhaps one day I'll get a 2-man Hille, and drag the kids along. Cheers, David.
Hey David great to hear that you are getting out camping in the Soulo standing up to the wind.... Just looked up your location. WOW. Were you on the summit of that???? ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Yes Tom. And my body is still in pain (shear power of will at play- me, very unfit). Weighed my backpack when I got home (I didn't have the to psych myself out with weights before the hike) - 16kg without the 2ltr water, evening meals, fuel spent, whiskey, etc. Torture, but so worth it! Keep well, and stay safe. David.
Top-quality video mate. I have 11mm Easton poles from tentpoletechnologies. Ive found the Unna to be so incredibly stout and versatile. Mesh inner option is amazing for summer. You can pitch it solo in 10 seconds and wait out periods of rain, flysheet. Has an incredible amount of space for one, and two on light and fast peaks. And even in summer backpacking with two and no inner but a tyvek groundsheet, it's basically ultralight. The door is so large it can even be a shade or a cook tent with the outer only for groups. Instant, 4 seasons of roomy protection from the elements is what the Unna is. And can be pitched literally anywhere. Cheers.
Hi Jeffrey thank you for your positive comments. The 11 mm Easton's sound great. I have always liked Easton products and appreciate the tip on sourcing them as I wasn't aware of this company. Totally agree with your plus points of the tent. ATB Tom
Love my Unna, i find the large gap between the outer/inner helps with comfort in high winds, the outer moves but doesnt seem to transfer it to the inner, also stops a lot of condensation getting onto the inner as well. I pitch and carry the inner/outer separate, helps keeps the inner dry when on multidays.funny u mentioned the orientation to sleep, ive slept either end , never thought bout that, so much room inside its easy to move around in it. great vid, nice to see a good review of this rarely seen tent..ATB WJ
Hi thank you for your comments especially as an Unna owner. Its a great tent and fab for one person in all but the most harsh conditions. Really versatile too with sleeping options. The separation between outer and inner is great around most all of the tent which as you say helps isolate the inner.... ATB Tom
Tom thanks for another great review keep them coming. I fortunately have the Unna and the Soulo, but I think the Soulo is just a better tent all round. Can't wait for your next review on all three 👍
Great in-depth review of the Unna! I’ve always really liked the simple design and look of this tent, especially when the front of the outer is completely rolled back. Really surprised at how much room there was between the inner and the outer. For one person the tent looks like a palace!
Yes thank you for your comments. Great separation between inner and outer tent. The room inside is fantastic also helped by the fact that the side door runs the full length of the tent... ATB Tom
I really enjoyed this review while I waiting dealer who sells used one. And I am pretty much sure Unna is going to perfect for me. Thank you. from S.Korea
Excellent review Tom I’ve just ordered this tent, I’ve fancied one for a while. I sold my staika a while ago and want something to replace it. My Mrs doesn’t come camping with me very often but we could definitely both fit in the Unna by the looks of the sleep pads side by side. Looks a fantastic tent. ATB mate 👍
Hey Paul, thank you for your comments and great to hear of your Hilleberg tents... I sold one of mine as my MRS doesn't come camping any more too ha ha... The Unna here is a great tent and I hope that you have it by now.... All the very best wishes... Tom
Excellent review! After 25yrs of using different tents from all kind of manufacturers the Unna is the one that's staying with me. I've been using it for years now, can't fault it. Also packs away small, fits a 8L drybag.
Hi D K thank you for your feedback as an own of the Unna. This is a great tent and I might end up buying one to add to my Hilleberg collection... ATB with continued happy camping in yours... Tom
Happy to find this a Unna review. Very objective and thorough as usual Tom. I have this tent and have found it to be superb but….., I did opt for the inner mesh tent for warm weather use. Cross ventilation is poor in dead air warm environments. Thanks Tom
Hi Stewart, appreciate your comments especially as you are an Unna owner. Great to hear that you are happy with it and to hear of the ventilation or lack of lack of in no wind environments. ATB Tom
Thanks, Tom for excellent review. Before watching this video, the Unna was never on my radar. Thanks to your review, the Unna could become my tent of choice based on stability, compact size but massive inner volume plus inner height and the ease to pitch. Seeing the vestibule space was a real game changer for me.
Hi Lars, how are you? Thank you for watching and commenting. The Unna was a bit off may radar too until I actually got my hands on one. Its a great tent which is super practical for one person with a bunch of space provided you are not out in very high winds.... The Vestibule space definitely came as a nice surprise to me... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Hi Tom, as a follow up, I finally got my hands on a brand new, bright red Hilleberg Unna. All thanks to your review. I'll try it out later but have very high hopes. 10 mm poles will be added at some stage. Thanks again and keep up your marvelous work.
@@larsmoller870 Hey that's great news.. Not too many Red Unnas about so that's even better. A great tent so I wish you all the very best with it.. Happy Camping. ATB Tom
Excellent review Tom, now you've really thrown a cat amongst the pigeons for me, for 90% of the use this tent I think would really excel. Good tip about the freestanding design in regards to drying out. Loving the crisp audio by the way, that Rode mic is superb. Kind regards from Lisburn.
Hi, thank you for your comments, if you have a look at this video when Chris is in his tent you can see the Rode clipped onto the door of the tent. The audio here is excellent too and another example for you... Yes 90 percent of the time this tent is hard to beat....
@@TOMHEANEY100 and now what comes around stays around, im going hiking in scotland for two weeks in 2 days, bringing all the food with me for a hefty 22kg backpack load.
Once again, I find the thoughtful blend of details and the conclusions you have drawn from them makes your videos extremely useful. 1. Where the limit to wind resistance might be (and how to improve it) 2. There actually is a small vestibule even without detaching some of the inner 3. You mentioned that you can fit 2 large size Thermarest pads in there. Are you saying that 2 large NeoAir pads will fit if the heads are facing opposite directions? This would make the tent much more usable to me. Thank you.
Hi Douglas, thank you for your comments. Today I am filming the Unna, vs the Soulo vs the Akto. My thermarest Neoair Uberlite is 183cm. And I think my old neoair is a regular but I will measure it today when inflated....
Tom...to let you know I finally made the decision and bought a Staika with footprint, but right to the last minute I was changing my mind! I have only been out in it once but I am pleased with my buy. Thanks for all the great advice on your various reviews, it certainly helped in my decision making process. I think for an all round tent for my sort of usage it will be ideal. I hope your health is ok and wishing you well. Roger
Great detailed review Tom, thanks for the time and effort you put into these, it is appreciated! Desperately waiting for your review of Unna vs Soulo vs Akto because I’m just about to ( try! ) and buy a Hilleberg tent and can’t decide between the Soulo, or Unna or Allak 2….. I would love the Allak , but it’s a tad on the heavy side at 3.3kgs packed, so the Soulo and Unna are almost a kilo lighter , but deciding between the Soulo and Unna is a lot closer. The Soulo doesn’t have much interior space and is a bit fiddly to pitch but looks really stable in high winds, but the Unna is simple and quick to pitch and has a decent size interior , also if you swapped the poles in the Unna out to 10mm ones and used some extra guy lines I think it would handle severe wind situations a lot better, so I think at the moment I’m favouring the Unna. Really wish I could see both tents side by side , I’m sure that would help me decide easier 🤷🏻♂️ ATB mate, keep up the great work 👍
Hi Poucher, I think that you have it pretty well summed up here. I hope to finish filming my review on Tuesday and post on CZcams by Thursday. I will take on board what you say here and try to help by my demonstrations and thoughts.... ATB Tom
Hi Dominic, thank you for watching and commenting on this review. I too would not have considered the Unna but now I am after borrowing this one. A RED one would be really nice...
Great review Tom 👍 I have a niak bought a set of 10mm poles (x3 for my allak 2 same size) it's pretty similar to the unna slightly bigger vestibule on the niak..inner door is just mesh also the fly doesn't go to the ground for sustained bad weather unna looks like it just pips it I think ?
Thank you Rob. A few other Niak comments here too who are very happy with it. Interesting too to hear how many users have gone for the 10mm poles for their red or yellow label tents. I wonder if Hilleberg will pay any attention and advertise or highlight this modification option a bit more.... ATB Tom
Cleaning the lens while recording. Hilarious, Tom 😅 your videos are too good! I’ve always been curious about the Unna. Quite the unusual tent isn’t it. I wish the length was a bit more utilised for tall users.
Hi Rob, well it had to be done cleaning the lens.... Until I reviewed this Unna I would have been a bit reserved about it. But on pitching and using it on a number of occasions I was very impressed. For tall users its perfect too. ATB Tom
Hi Rob, I am 1meter and 98 centimeter tall and are quite comfortable in my Unna. However, I must admit that most times on both ends I am in touch with the inner, but it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe this helps.
Hey Tom I did enjoy the review and I can tell you put a lot of work into this. I never considered the Unna for myself to be honest. It seems to be somewhat between a Yellow label and a Red label tent, just like the normal Soulo is somewhat between a Red and a Black Label ( with the 10mm Poles this becomes a clear RL ). I think it could be great to use this if you travel with a Single Dog and need shelter for both, I probably would still pick the Nallo 2 over this, but if you are looking for a freestanding tent this could be an option. Cheers
Yes lots of work to film this over a week or so to get different locations and conditions rather than just review it from one pitch...... A person and their big or small dog would manage great here in the Unna but maybe more difficult if your dog usually sleeps in the vestibule...... I have always preferred the Nallo 2 over the Unna in the past due to greater space and the lack of it not being freestanding doesn't really bother me. Now though I am not so sure having used the Unna...... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Yea i totally agree with you after watching your review. I wonder what would happen if you did buy 8 additional guy lines with 4 more pegs and attach them just like the others, but with a 90 degree angle compared to the ones that are already there and going to the side. (Two additional pegs and 4 guy lines in the back and two additional in the front with 4 guy lines) You would possibly have a minimal gain in weight, but overall a great stability improvement. ( At least in my head that is ;) )
Absolutely spot on test, You said 230 cm ? Length, Would be near vertical ? My mat is 7 cm so sounds appealing, I might invest in a quality winter tent, but I won’t need the soulo as don’t intend to camp in really tough conditions, mind you the Cheviots are a windy range. Thanks for the video, slowly getting through some of your content. Keep em coming
Hi Mountain Hopper how are you? Yeah the Unna is pretty long at 230 cm but does slope in quite a bit once you add height on top of a mattress. It's a great versatile tent for reasonable conditions.. The free standing issue is not a major bonus for me so I think I would prefer a Nallo 2 to be honest and might try to track one down for a full review... ATB Tom
I have seen other people use a pocket bellow kind of tool (small rubber bulb that would ordinarily be used to spray and atomize powder) to remove rain and dust of their camera lenses. You might be interested in that. The Unna is the only Hilleberg tent I have hands on experience with. My first time in moderate rainstorm was quiet a let-down due to the guy out stakes wiggling loose at maybe 35 to 45 mph winds and the poles almost bending down onto my face. I use MSR groundhogs now for the guy outs, and 10mm poles seemed to make a big difference in getting a good nights sleep during gusty nights. I also managed to turn the Unna into a dome by installing a third pole widthwise but haven't tested that configuration yet in severe weather.
Hi Luke, thank you for commenting and your advice re the camera lens. I actually have one of those bulbs for cleaning the sensor so I will give it a try. That sounds like an interesting option with the extra pole as the tent is very un supported from the side... I am sure it would be tricky enough to make that work and attach! ATB Tom
Got one coming in the mail to check out, bit on the expensive side but something that keeps the wind out a bit better than my UL stuff and also is free standing got me curious. Weight is more than our 4 man tent hehe!
Hey I hope that you like the Unna. There is no doubt about the big difference in weight and there is a big division in opinion between lightweight and ultra light tents. At the moment I am still in the lightweight category. For example if you use a UL tent and bring any extra clothing or gear to keep warmer due to the lower protection then you are reducing the weight benefit in the first place. Durability too can be an issue as if I had a DCF floor in my tent I would prefer to protect it with a footprint and here we go again adding weight... I must admit though that I reviewed an Zpacks tent for 4 season usage and was very impressed. However I don't use walking poles and when you add in one to the structure then the weight advantage again starts to reduce. Some of the fabric bonding on the tent was starting to fail as well so I am still not sure they are for me... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 DCF is expensive for sure! I have a dcf groundsheet for my bivy camping tho, to protect the thin silnylon bivy hehe! True about the temperatures, my Tarptent Protrail gets A LOT of air flow. I am going to check out a few different tents these coming weeks, looking for something for those rainy days out solo camping and fishing.
Hilleberg should make a black label Unna option. ( Kerlon 18 fabric + 10mm Poles ) Plus improve the door with a full mossie net / zip down panel - for a nice view, even when lying down and keeping the Scottish midges at bay.
Yes I think in some aspects it would be simpler if they chose certain models and then just made yellow,red and black label versions.. Most of their tents need updating as the designs are very old and this is disappointing. The new tent options each year are also minimal... best wishes Tom
Great review thank you! The Unna is my third Hilleberg and my favourite - it’s a pleasure to be in. I haven’t had it out in wind yet and, while it is aerodynamic over the ends, I do wonder how a strong wind shifting round to the front or behind would buffer it. When pitching the continuous sleeves mean no more guy lines wrapping themselves around clips, and I find taking down is even quicker as both poles can be removed simultaneously. One improvement I’ve made to the original is to add two extra pockets - the Unna yellow inner only comes with one and it is on the left at the front so not where I want it. (The mesh inner comes with two, diagonally set.) The flexibility of the usage is amazing and if I’m camping with my folding bike I unclip front left corner to expand vestibule as you demonstrated. The views from inside the Unna are terrific too. I’ve been using it this summer with a mesh inner and love that too, and not just for the ventilation - it really enhances the experience of living inside the tent. 😁👍👍
Hi Peter, thank you for your detailed comments especially as an Unna owner. I totally agree about the wind shifting direction to the front or back and this would be my only reservation. Even with 10mm poles the tent has little support from the front or back....The guy lines and clips do get tangled on the Soulo for example and all of this takes time to manage. The pole sleeves are so fast but possible less suitable for extreme conditions. As I mentioned the main body of the tent can be set up in about 2 mins with full security in about 5 so super fast to set up. Yes to the pockets as Hilleberg are very lean in this respect so organised storage could be better. Having the door the full length of the tent is great and lends itself to great views of the outside if conditions are good. Many thanks once again Peter for your continued comments on my videos. ATB Tom
Have to say i always look forward to your videos. They are always intresting and done on great products. Have u tried a niak and if u have how it compares to the unna for internal space? Cheers mate excellent stuff.
Hi Chris, thank you for your comments. I haven't had the opportunity to try the Niak but it in theory as I am sure that you have looked is a little wider but not as long.. One of my other comments talks about the Niak and actually prefers it over the Unna but with 10mm poles. I personally don't fancy the lighter weight fabrics as they are just so prone to accidental damage but that's only my opinion.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for the reply. I have a soulo for my solo trips but was thinking of a lighter weight 3 season when my wife comes along. Being use to a sturdy tent i know what you mean though.
Hey Tom, thanks for the great review. I have always admired this simple tent design, my most comfortable outings have been in similar designs, but with matching doors on both sides, was wondering if you had any thoughts on the matter? At any point did you wish the tent could be opened on both sides?
Hi Fred, the matching door idea would make the tent extremely versatile, especially for two users and extra gear storage. I suppose Hilleberg decide primarily who or how many the tent is for and design it around that... Adding extra features adds weight and costs and they have to decide where to draw the line.... I think with the double door option it would take the tent to 2.6kg and that would make it too heavy for some users... Not saying I am right here but just my thoughts.... Thank you for yours once again.... ATB Tom
I think you are exactly right. With Hilleberg and their thoroughness, adding another door would be a big deal, both cost and weight would be increased, but having the luxurious extra door for a tent that is already a bit heavy and a bit expensive and a bit luxurious might not be a big ask for folks using this tent. Folks want Hilleberg tents for all sorts of reasons, but two reasons to never buy a Hilleberg are weight and price.
Hey thank you for your comments.. I know they are pricey.. Price still going up too...I think though they hold their value very well so I tent to buy, use and sell for very little cost apart from the initial outlay.. My experience of customer service is also fantastic.. Still they are not for everyone and I appreciate that . Thank you once again for expressing your thoughts 🤔.. Best wishes Tom
I'd be nervous taking it out in winter due to the weak sides. Also it looks like it would be vulnerable when taking it down and setting it up in high winds. If you know it ill be nice weather, would make a nice spacous tent, but in the UK, Scotland in particular, the weather can change quickly without warning.
Hi you have definitely identified the weaknesses of the Unna. While its a great tent these are the reasons that I personally would not buy one... Weak from the side and even quite a large surface area for the wind to catch end on... Still so many owners never use to this capacity and just camp in good weather... best wishes and thank you for this comment... Tom
Tom, very informative again. Would like to understand your thoughts on sleeping bag etc touching the inner tent. I'm 193cm (approx 6,3-6,4) and other than Enan and Helags have not found a Hilleberg I can lie in without sleeping bag and/or head touching the inner tent. With autumn/winter approaching and thus spending more time in the tent I'm looking for more interior space that Enan (which I own and love) provides, but find Helags too heavy for solo use...
Not even the Helags 2 at 2.4kg? I'm 209 cm so I really feel your pain, I'm thinking of opting for the Kaitum 2 (3.1kg) for solo use, heavy it might be but I'd rather have comfort than be cramped inside with my head and feet touching the inner. I tried an Akto and my feet and head were soaking. I'd love to try out the Unna it could possibly tick most boxes. Just a shame I couldn't take my Exped mat and sleeping bag to try the tents before buying one as they're not cheap if they don't suit.
I hope to film the Unna against the Akto, and Soulo over the next couple of days. I will show more of the length considerations for the Unna to try and help longer users.... Tom
@@Hightower600 You make a fair point. maybe I got too hung up on weight watching all these UL videos. BTW I would reckon a good outdoor retailer will let you try the tent either with you own equipment or something similar they have in store. I live near Utrecht in the Netherlands and here I have two retailers that have pooled some money together and operate a big place where you can really try all the tents from the most notable names
@@TOMHEANEY100 That would definitely be awesome. my tip: Enan seems better suited to longer users over Akto because of the construction with the single larger pole at the end (but is obviously not a red label tent)
@@sigaar109 I’m sure you are aware of Rob’s channel (also from the Netherlands). He is going to review the Hilleberg Helags 3 and post up a video on his channel soon, between him and Tom they produce the most comprehensive and in depth reviews of Hilleberg tents that exist. That is a fair point about trying out a tent before you buy one. It’s something that I’ve been planning but with the shortage of models available at the same time it could prove difficult and I’d also have to travel to a different country but it would certainly make sense given the cost of the Hilleberg range. czcams.com/users/OutdoorPrep
Hi Tom, I'm thinking of getting an Unna. The quoted length is 230 cm from the base. What sort of length is there once you are on a mat? I'm not that tall (178cm / 5' 10"), but concerned my winter bag could touch the ends. As a much taller person, do you ever find the footbox of your bag (or your head) ever touches the inner walls?
Hi Simsday, thank you for watching.. This Unna was borrowed to review so I am not regularly using it to give you a detailed answer.. But as far as I am aware I had no issues with the length.. I actually noticed length issues on the Staika more as the dome slopes in very quickly... All tents have pros and cons and a longer tent will then weigh more.. 230 cm is definitely enough for the majority of users and as I mentioned before I noticed no issues here in the Unna. ATB Tom
Hi Sebastian, it's always personal on what features matter to you.. The obvious one is outer vs inner pitching but also vestibule space.. While there have been some people who have had issues with their Hilleberg tents, the 6 ones that I have handled have been perfect quality and construction wise.. Personally I don't like the pole hub type connection on the MSR but have never had personal experience of it.. Going back to the quality issue Hilleberg put all their efforts into tents whereas MSR make many products... Hope this is of some help.. ATVB Tom
Hi Tom I'm just doing some research on the unna and your my hilleberg guru lol.i was out in the snow last night with my kuiu and at 3.3kg with footprint I was thinking I didn't need this much strength because the winds were fairly light but I couldn't use my niak because of the snow so was thinking the unna might be a good choice even with the 10mm poles I'd still be saving a kilo have you heard any problems with the unna as it looks like I might be getting another tent lol 😁
No probs with the Unna especially with 10mm poles.. The vestibule is small and its a bit vulnerable from the sides but I suppose most tents have a better or worse orientation into the wind... Most Unna owners seem to be very happy with them and high winds can ultimately catch out most tents... Its never an easy decision so I hope this review helps... Best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 yea I won't be out in the unna in daft weather if I want that then I'll take the kuiu but I love the space of the niak but can't take that in the snow so I'm thinking the unna will fit the bill nicely
Hillebergs own pictures and pitching video do a disservice to this tent. It makes it look like it has zero vestibule and the pictures do not show that low venting option.
Owned 2 over the decades. If and when the wind changes, say no more. It has its place like any tent or shelter. Boundaries!!! Better and cheaper choices out there.
Hi Catherine, thank you for your comments especially as having used Unna's for many years. Yes I would be a little concerned at the tents ability to resist winds from any direction due to its pole configuration.... ATB Tom
Over one thousand nights in an Unna, all over the world using 10mm DAC poles. Never an issue. Two words, site selection. Tent is still going strong. I calculate about 35p a night to date. Curious about the better cheaper options.
Great review, do you think it would be possible to cook inside the vestibule, with the door closed, without having to unclip the inner tent? Or is it to small?
Thats a great question Dale, Borderline I hope to video again today comparing the Akto, Soulo and Unna so I will consider this and either reply here or show it in the video.... ATB Tom
Depends on the cooker, I suppose. Needs to be low to the ground, methinks. . Just wondering if you knocked an Easton peg in to hold the centre of the long side back further would that create adequate extra space ? Should help a lot as it'd pull the elastics, so thinking 8" here. . Dale, this is my tent he's threatening to burn down, but I've got a replacement as new guarantee from Tom. Ha !
@@Super.Quasar Yes Gary as there is a great length along the inner and its not too taught you can get it retracted well back into the inner tent without even having to un clip it at the ends. Something as you suggest would work. I will try to show and demo this or something similar when I video the Unna again this week against the mighty Soulo and outstanding Akto... Tom
Excellent review, thanks a lot. My only concern is the inner length of the Unna. I am 198cm tall and my concern is touching the walls as they are not vertical like the Keron or Kaitum. Please help, Greetings from Germany 🤗
Hi Thorsten, I will try. At the moment I am in the process of filming another video which includes the Unna. I know that Rob from Rob Outdoor Prep is 196cm and he may me doing an Unna review and demo and also on other Hillebergs for tall users. I am 186 so not quite in the realm of you guys.... ATB Tom
Hi Thorsten, actually I am just as tall as you are: 198 cm, and I have slept many, many nights in my Unna. It is true that we 198ers will touch the inner fabric a bit. But it doesn't prevent me from sleeping like a baby. However, when there is heavy condensation on the inner, you should protect the feet of you sleeping bag to get damp from it. I wouldn't change the Unna for any other.
Tom... which tent would you choose for Northern "windy" Sweden/Finland use for one person (with room): Soulo, Unna, Nick, Rogan. I have the Fjällräven Abisko Lite 3 and other Fjällräven tents, but wanted more of a freestanding tent. Weight is my issue. I have a Staika... but TOO heavy for one person (unless winter). Thoughts? C
Hi, if weight is your issue then freestanding kind of makes that impossible. For example an Unna is the same weight as a Nallo 2 but much less inner and and vestibule space... An Unna has the space but not really great in windy conditions.. The Soulo strong but heavy and little space. So you need to decide on what is important to you. Niak or Rogan, light and spacious but are definitely 3 season tents and would struggle in winds over 40 mph. .Really sorry but I cant answer your question as you are listing contrasting variables.. best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Have you had the Unna in winds? It has a LOT of surface area. for the wind to hit. My Abisko Lite 3 is amazing... but I want something freestanding. My Staika is like super heavy.... Been thinking between the Unna, Rogan, and Soulo. :)
@@TheTrailDancer Yes the Unna has a lot of surface area for its poles to support so not a great wind tent.. The Rogan will be worse so maybe you just need to manage your space in the Soulo.... Tom
Very nice review. I am sorry if this is inappropriate but where in the UK or IRE is this accent from, specifically, not generally? Thanks (I’m just very interested in languages and accents).
Hi thank you for watching, that's a tricky one.. Its a balancing act for all fabric types regarding, costs, tear strength, weight and UV Resistance never mind the other the many other aspects of the tent design. DCF fabric for example has better UV resistance than nylon but not many tent designs to choose from... Polyester too has better UV resistance but much lower tear strength. Thicker Nylon ie 70D will also have better UV resistance than the 30d used here... ATB Tom
Not sure, I have an underlying heart issue at the moment and have been told not to go into the mountains by my consultant so that's the honest reason that I haven't been camping in the hills.... ATB Tom
Mmm 27k views and you are the first to comment like this...Even so if you can be more specific I'll have a look ...best wishes and happy new year.. Tom
I had so much fun doing this review.... I was really impressed with this tent and it definitely exceeded my expectations in many ways. Tom
Hi Tom, thanks for this excellent review of (in my opinion) a very underrated tent.
I'm the wrong side of 65 now and have some minor mobility issues. Consequently I've been looking for a solo tent with plenty of internal space and ample headroom but which is still practical to carry. Initially I dismissed the Unna because I was under the impression it had no vestibule.
After watching your review I've purchased the Unna and found it ideal for my needs. My expeditions nowadays are rather more modest than in years past and it handles with ease the worst conditions I'm likely to currently encounter.
Very versatile tent.
Hey, Frederick thank you smooch for your thoughts and comments here sharing your opinion on the Unna. I am really glad that the Unna worked for you based on my review here.. It is a great little tent and after using it it could be on my next tent list... As I have got older.. space for moving inside the tent is more important and the Unna fits the bill here and is also high quality and strong enough. BUT I have a Samaya Assaut2 8K and thats really working for me tested over many camps....Its 1kg lighter with the same space and so far about 12 nights (all my camps in it) condensation free... best wishes and happy Christmas.. Tom
Thanks Tom,
I've found the One Tigress bathtub ground sheet fits under the Unna perfectly. I'm thinking of using it like that without the inner tent during the warmer months. Or alternatively finding a lightweight mesh tent that will fit okay. I know Hilleberg can supply a dedicated inner but it doesn't save much weight and is of course very expensive. I've got the MLD Duomid with a mesh inner. I'll try that for size. I haven't actually checked but I think using the Unna as a single skin shelter or with a very lightweight mesh inner should fetch it down to around three and a half pounds.
Take care and a merry Christmas to you as well.@@TOMHEANEY100
Tom, definitely appreciate all the effort (and the humour) to give another fantastically detailed review👍👍
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed the humour so more for next time too.... ATB and thank you for commenting. Tom
Great review, i bought my unna with 10mm hilleberg staika poles, its bombproof, george fisher were the only camping shop to sell me the unna with only 10mm poles, every other shop wanted me to buy the unna then buy 2 10mm poles, the unna with 10mm poles , the only solo tent you will ever need, ,cheers
Hey great to hear and I was super impressed with the flexibility, strength and space in the tent. That was really decent of George Fisher to sell it with the 10mm poles instead of the 9mm. There does seem to be a lot of users who go for this option. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 i was only going to ever buy it with 10mm poles,, george fisher were great. tbf. cheers
That's a good choice if you're planning for windy mountain use. I had my Unna smashed in a storm in Sarek, northern Sweden a long time ago. The poles bent and cracked while I was sleeping with earplugs. First time in my life I had to shout "help" , as I was sitting in the collapsed tent preventing it from blowing away, and needed the attention of my mates in the other tent. The remaining Hilleberg tunnel tent was getting close to also giving up during the night so we retreated to lower protected grounds. After that trip, I patched up the rip in the pole channel some some dental floss & silicone and upgraded to the thicker poles. A tad heavier but worth it for sleeping with confidence. Overall, Unna is a great 4-season tent. I also bought the all-mesh inner for summer use. Nice with a small foot print and free-standing for kayaking trips when camping on rocks.
I’ll be honest, I favor the shares of experiences when the tent (or whatever equipment fails). I don’t particularly judge it has a mark against the gear. In the right conditions almost everything will eventually fail. So I appreciate the story 👍🏽
Only now I see I missed this video, but I have a nice excuse: I was wildcamping in Spain and France for two weeks. The Unna! That is the one I am using and I love it. Thank you so much Tom for your excellent videos, every time you publish a new one you make my day!
Hi Jasper, great to hear that you were out on a trip....I hope it was a great one and you enjoyed using that Unna. I really appreciate your support and many positive comments on my videos. ATB Tom
I’ve had a few Hillerberg tents but my all time favourite is the Unna. I use it mainly when kayaking in the Swedish archipelago so there’s a lot of pitching on flat cliffs. Besides the 10 mm poles I would recommend the mesh inner tent during the warm season. It makes it feel even bigger inside, the ventilation is great and you can sleep with the whole front open without getting eaten alive by mosquitos. I also bring a small cheap tarp to put under the floor. It protects it when the cliffs are sharp. And if the weather predicts many days of rain I’d like to bring along a Tarp 10. Gives you more space and can be used as extra wind protection too.
On the whole; it’s extremely easy to use, very versatile and fits in really small spaces.. :)
Hi Ulf I really appreciate your comments and sharing your experience as a fellow Hilleberg user and particularly the Unna... I was surprised by the versatility and space of this tent both inner and vestibule. It's a great all round tent and very adaptable for varied conditions.... ATB Tom
Great review, Tom. The Unna is a tent that is rarely reviewed, so it was lovely to see one in action. I also thought the pace of the video was perfect!!!
Thanks
Phil
Hey Phil, thank you for commenting and watching. The Unna has a fair bit in common design wise to the Staika, but less durability, strength and weight. It is a super tent for one person with so much internal volume and useable space.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Great review homie👈🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. I picked up this joint a month ago you feel me. This tent ROCKS!!!! I enjoy bendy tents and spindrift i dont know why????🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Great review , I have the Unna and its a great tent . U picked up on some good points, I've watched many reviews from unna owners and even they often do not understand the Unnas benefits . As u mentioned u can raise the long sides for ventilation , I often raise the short width sides with my boots or stuff lying around the campsite , sticks and stones . Its free standing and the quality of materials is great , the water rating beats generally all non hillebergs especially the floor about 10000 roughly , , u could camp in a bog and stay dry :). Its the vestibule people do not understand, it has one anyway but its really easy to drop a corner of the inner and create loads of space for cooking or if its bucketing down I will drop the door inner corner and get in and change out of wet clothes before getting inside the inner. I've spent 14hrs in it once in wet windy winter weather and glad I had all that space:). Its a bit heavy for summer really but still great for summer bikepacking and kayaking trips:) 👍
Thank you for this detailed comment of your user experience. Yes until you actually start playing around with the tent its hard to appreciate its versatility and interior space. The waterproof rating and groundsheet thickness are two further plus points. ATB Tom
If you raise the long sides during rain, does the bottom inner get wet?
@@Simsydavno not really especially if not facing wing , it has a bucket shape groundsheet and the gap between the inner and fly is quite large
looks like a great tent. thanks so much for all the work you put into these videos
No worries thanks for the comment.. best wishes Tom
Great video Tom and put together so well 👏 👍
Hi Neil, thank you for your comments. Hope to catch up soon. ATB Tom
Great information thanks so much for your reviews.
Hi Mechelle, The Unna... ,,,🤔💭 Another option for you . A super all-rounder but limited vestibule space for a longer trip.. A Hilleberg Nalo 2 is another option at the same weight here. More room inside, and decent Vestibule... The freestanding aspect of the Unna has many followers but personally I don't dig it at all. All tents need properly secured by pegs and a Nallo only needs 4 if there is no wind.. Select your camp ground carefully and you won't need to move it... Any other thoughts 💬 just ask and I will detail the pros and cons.. All the very best Tom
Another good detailed review Tom. I was surprised about the amount of vestibule space you can create, and very good idea to beef it up with 10mm poles. Good footage and editing too.
Hi Barry, thank you for your comments. Yes the vestibule space really impressed and I hope to get the opportunity to show the 10mm poles.... ATB Tom
Really like that tent. Love the fact you can have the whole front open to admire the view if you are pitched in a scenic spot and the room it gives you for a relatively light weight. I hope Hilleberg don't increase the price after seeing this video . Thanks Tom for another engrossing video.
Hi Joe, great to hear your thoughts.... Having the whole front open is a great feature and it just gives so much space and openness to appreciate where you are. Good for star gazing too I reckon. really glad that you enjoyed this video. ATB Tom
Another shockingly excellent review…perhaps the best Unna-review on CZcams.
Hey Jack I hope you are well. I really appreciate your positive comments. I do put lots of work into my reviews to try and make them a bit different. Hopefully my future ones will all be done in the actual mountains field testing.. ATB Tom
Thankyou Tom, this is a great review and I’ll now buy my Unna with 10mm poles when HB HQ have it back in stock week 13 . I was concerned about the ‘lack’ of vestibule, but you have covered that so well it’s now not a worry . Happy Hilleberg camping !
Hey Sue thank you for watching and commenting.. That's great that you got the information that you were looking for on the Unna.. Its a great tent with fantastic volume and comfort for one person. I Hope that you don't have too long to weight on sourcing one. You will love it.. ATVB Tom
Thanks for another really detailed review. I must admit I wouldn’t have considered a 2 pole tent structure like this until watching this review.
Hi John, thank you for your comments over many of my videos now. It was a pity that I did not get the high winds that I was hoping for to properly test the tent. Apart from that its about knowing its limitations and getting the best out of it..... ATB Tom
Great informative video Tom as usual, what was useful for me and a surprise was the vestibule space which I didn't think it had so back on the try or buy list. Cheers and happy camping.
One of you needs to do the Rogen!!!
Hi Andrew, thank you for your comments. The vestibule space and options are highly underrated. Maybe it's because you don't expect it to be big and then it's a pleasant suprise...I would be tempted on buying one myself..
Thanks! I'll look forward to the comparison video. :)
No worries Jean won't be too long.... ATB Tom
Great vid Tom! Hilleberg lend med one pre-production Unna when I hiked the Kungsleden back in the 1990s. Had my dog with me, we had a great time. Loved the tent, and actually suggested a few minor changes to Bosse. Those where the days!
Hey Ben good to hear about your experience with Hilleberg. They offer a great customer experience and their products are worth every penny. Few companies do this now as most survive and concentrate on cost cutting... You have to support quality... ATVB Tom
Underated channel, top reviews and knowledge on all aspects. Well done tom 🙌🏻👌🏻
Thank you very much for your positive comments. ATB Tom
not underrated by those by those who came across this channel )
Great video! Thorough but not slow. The Unna really is a great tent. Thanks!
Hi thank you for watching and making the effort to comment.... ATB Tom
I like the addition of the extra guyline off the porch 👌
Yes, it works very well for ventilation and support in wind... ATB Tom
Hi Tom. Great to see you back. Only commenting now, as I was in the mountains, specifically Giant's Castle in the Drakensberg, since Friday. My one and only Soulo, came into her own. The wind Saturday night- Sunday morning, was absolutely wicked. Always nice watching one of your reviews. Perhaps one day I'll get a 2-man Hille, and drag the kids along. Cheers, David.
Hey David great to hear that you are getting out camping in the Soulo standing up to the wind.... Just looked up your location. WOW. Were you on the summit of that???? ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Yes Tom. And my body is still in pain (shear power of will at play- me, very unfit). Weighed my backpack when I got home (I didn't have the to psych myself out with weights before the hike) - 16kg without the 2ltr water, evening meals, fuel spent, whiskey, etc. Torture, but so worth it! Keep well, and stay safe. David.
Fantastic review, benchmark for how to test a tent! Thank you
Thank you very much for this positive feedback.. Really appreciate it... ATB Tom
Great review Tom! Looks a cracking wee tent. And in my favourite colour lol. Thanks
Hi Stuart, thank you. Yes I do like the sand colour too. Hope to see a video form you soon. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 aiming to get out towards the end of the month 👍🏻
Top-quality video mate. I have 11mm Easton poles from tentpoletechnologies. Ive found the Unna to be so incredibly stout and versatile. Mesh inner option is amazing for summer. You can pitch it solo in 10 seconds and wait out periods of rain, flysheet. Has an incredible amount of space for one, and two on light and fast peaks. And even in summer backpacking with two and no inner but a tyvek groundsheet, it's basically ultralight. The door is so large it can even be a shade or a cook tent with the outer only for groups. Instant, 4 seasons of roomy protection from the elements is what the Unna is. And can be pitched literally anywhere. Cheers.
Hi Jeffrey thank you for your positive comments. The 11 mm Easton's sound great. I have always liked Easton products and appreciate the tip on sourcing them as I wasn't aware of this company. Totally agree with your plus points of the tent. ATB Tom
As always, awesome review
Great video and super Nice tent.
Hi thank you very much for watching and commenting. ATB Tom
Love my Unna, i find the large gap between the outer/inner helps with comfort in high winds, the outer moves but doesnt seem to transfer it to the inner, also stops a lot of condensation getting onto the inner as well. I pitch and carry the inner/outer separate, helps keeps the inner dry when on multidays.funny u mentioned the orientation to sleep, ive slept either end , never thought bout that, so much room inside its easy to move around in it. great vid, nice to see a good review of this rarely seen tent..ATB WJ
Hi thank you for your comments especially as an Unna owner. Its a great tent and fab for one person in all but the most harsh conditions. Really versatile too with sleeping options. The separation between outer and inner is great around most all of the tent which as you say helps isolate the inner.... ATB Tom
Tom thanks for another great review keep them coming. I fortunately have the Unna and the Soulo, but I think the Soulo is just a better tent all round. Can't wait for your next review on all three 👍
No worries, more up soon. ATB Tom
Great in-depth review of the Unna! I’ve always really liked the simple design and look of this tent, especially when the front of the outer is completely rolled back. Really surprised at how much room there was between the inner and the outer. For one person the tent looks like a palace!
Yes thank you for your comments. Great separation between inner and outer tent. The room inside is fantastic also helped by the fact that the side door runs the full length of the tent... ATB Tom
if you want it with 10mm poles, GEORGE FISHER, KESWICK , no need to buy the tent then buy 2 10mm poles.
I really enjoyed this review while I waiting dealer who sells used one. And I am pretty much sure Unna is going to perfect for me. Thank you. from S.Korea
Hey thank you for your comments. The Unna is a great tent for one. I honestly was super impressed with it. Hopefully you can source one soon. ATB Tom
Excellent video, thank you! 👍
Hey thank you Mark for your positive comments.... ATB Tom
Excellent review Tom I’ve just ordered this tent, I’ve fancied one for a while. I sold my staika a while ago and want something to replace it. My Mrs doesn’t come camping with me very often but we could definitely both fit in the Unna by the looks of the sleep pads side by side. Looks a fantastic tent. ATB mate 👍
Hey Paul, thank you for your comments and great to hear of your Hilleberg tents... I sold one of mine as my MRS doesn't come camping any more too ha ha... The Unna here is a great tent and I hope that you have it by now.... All the very best wishes... Tom
Excellent review! After 25yrs of using different tents from all kind of manufacturers the Unna is the one that's staying with me. I've been using it for years now, can't fault it. Also packs away small, fits a 8L drybag.
Hi D K thank you for your feedback as an own of the Unna. This is a great tent and I might end up buying one to add to my Hilleberg collection... ATB with continued happy camping in yours... Tom
Happy to find this a Unna review. Very objective and thorough as usual Tom. I have this tent and have found it to be superb but….., I did opt for the inner mesh tent for warm weather use. Cross ventilation is poor in dead air warm environments. Thanks Tom
Hi Stewart, appreciate your comments especially as you are an Unna owner. Great to hear that you are happy with it and to hear of the ventilation or lack of lack of in no wind environments. ATB Tom
Hi Stewart, I also use the mesh inner in my Unna in hot weather, really can recomend doing that to everybody
Thanks, Tom for excellent review. Before watching this video, the Unna was never on my radar. Thanks to your review, the Unna could become my tent of choice based on stability, compact size but massive inner volume plus inner height and the ease to pitch. Seeing the vestibule space was a real game changer for me.
Hi Lars, how are you? Thank you for watching and commenting. The Unna was a bit off may radar too until I actually got my hands on one. Its a great tent which is super practical for one person with a bunch of space provided you are not out in very high winds.... The Vestibule space definitely came as a nice surprise to me... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Hi Tom, as a follow up, I finally got my hands on a brand new, bright red Hilleberg Unna. All thanks to your review. I'll try it out later but have very high hopes. 10 mm poles will be added at some stage. Thanks again and keep up your marvelous work.
@@larsmoller870 Hey that's great news.. Not too many Red Unnas about so that's even better. A great tent so I wish you all the very best with it.. Happy Camping. ATB Tom
Excellent review Tom, now you've really thrown a cat amongst the pigeons for me, for 90% of the use this tent I think would really excel. Good tip about the freestanding design in regards to drying out. Loving the crisp audio by the way, that Rode mic is superb.
Kind regards from Lisburn.
Hi, thank you for your comments, if you have a look at this video when Chris is in his tent you can see the Rode clipped onto the door of the tent. The audio here is excellent too and another example for you... Yes 90 percent of the time this tent is hard to beat....
FIRST ! 😉 ... Finally a good Unna review. Thanks for sharing
Hi Martin, you are welcome I really enjoyed filming this even getting soaked in the rain.... ATB Tom
This video convinced me to buy an unna as ill be camping in the highlands of scotland for 10 days next year, thanks for the review!
Hey this is great to hear and thank you for sharing... A great tent and I wish you many many years of great camping in it.. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 and now what comes around stays around, im going hiking in scotland for two weeks in 2 days, bringing all the food with me for a hefty 22kg backpack load.
Once again, I find the thoughtful blend of details and the conclusions you have drawn from them makes your videos extremely useful. 1. Where the limit to wind resistance might be (and how to improve it) 2. There actually is a small vestibule even without detaching some of the inner 3. You mentioned that you can fit 2 large size Thermarest pads in there. Are you saying that 2 large NeoAir pads will fit if the heads are facing opposite directions? This would make the tent much more usable to me. Thank you.
Hi Douglas, thank you for your comments. Today I am filming the Unna, vs the Soulo vs the Akto. My thermarest Neoair Uberlite is 183cm. And I think my old neoair is a regular but I will measure it today when inflated....
Great review yet again Tom. I wish you wouldn't keep making me change my mind!!
Hi, I change my mind too as there are so many options for great tents. This one really supposed me.... ATB Tom
Tom...to let you know I finally made the decision and bought a Staika with footprint, but right to the last minute I was changing my mind! I have only been out in it once but I am pleased with my buy. Thanks for all the great advice on your various reviews, it certainly helped in my decision making process. I think for an all round tent for my sort of usage it will be ideal. I hope your health is ok and wishing you well.
Roger
Great detailed review Tom, thanks for the time and effort you put into these, it is appreciated!
Desperately waiting for your review of Unna vs Soulo vs Akto because I’m just about to ( try! ) and buy a Hilleberg tent and can’t decide between the Soulo, or Unna or Allak 2…..
I would love the Allak , but it’s a tad on the heavy side at 3.3kgs packed, so the Soulo and Unna are almost a kilo lighter , but deciding between the Soulo and Unna is a lot closer.
The Soulo doesn’t have much interior space and is a bit fiddly to pitch but looks really stable in high winds, but the Unna is simple and quick to pitch and has a decent size interior , also if you swapped the poles in the Unna out to 10mm ones and used some extra guy lines I think it would handle severe wind situations a lot better, so I think at the moment I’m favouring the Unna.
Really wish I could see both tents side by side , I’m sure that would help me decide easier 🤷🏻♂️
ATB mate, keep up the great work 👍
Hi Poucher, I think that you have it pretty well summed up here. I hope to finish filming my review on Tuesday and post on CZcams by Thursday. I will take on board what you say here and try to help by my demonstrations and thoughts.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I’m very much looking forward to seeing it Tom, thanks again for your reviews and advice 👍
Never considered the Unna and I don’t know why. Perhaps the lack of permanent vestibule. Maybe.
But this review has made me rethink.
Great job, mate.
Hi Dominic, thank you for watching and commenting on this review. I too would not have considered the Unna but now I am after borrowing this one. A RED one would be really nice...
@@TOMHEANEY100 - haha. I hear you mate. 🤣👍🏕
Great review Tom 👍 I have a niak bought a set of 10mm poles (x3 for my allak 2 same size) it's pretty similar to the unna slightly bigger vestibule on the niak..inner door is just mesh also the fly doesn't go to the ground for sustained bad weather unna looks like it just pips it I think ?
Thank you Rob. A few other Niak comments here too who are very happy with it. Interesting too to hear how many users have gone for the 10mm poles for their red or yellow label tents. I wonder if Hilleberg will pay any attention and advertise or highlight this modification option a bit more.... ATB Tom
Cleaning the lens while recording. Hilarious, Tom 😅 your videos are too good!
I’ve always been curious about the Unna. Quite the unusual tent isn’t it. I wish the length was a bit more utilised for tall users.
Hi Rob, well it had to be done cleaning the lens.... Until I reviewed this Unna I would have been a bit reserved about it. But on pitching and using it on a number of occasions I was very impressed. For tall users its perfect too. ATB Tom
Hi Rob, I am 1meter and 98 centimeter tall and are quite comfortable in my Unna. However, I must admit that most times on both ends I am in touch with the inner, but it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe this helps.
Hey Tom
I did enjoy the review and I can tell you put a lot of work into this.
I never considered the Unna for myself to be honest. It seems to be somewhat between a Yellow label and a Red label tent, just like the normal Soulo is somewhat between a Red and a Black Label ( with the 10mm Poles this becomes a clear RL ).
I think it could be great to use this if you travel with a Single Dog and need shelter for both, I probably would still pick the Nallo 2 over this, but if you are looking for a freestanding tent this could be an option.
Cheers
Yes lots of work to film this over a week or so to get different locations and conditions rather than just review it from one pitch...... A person and their big or small dog would manage great here in the Unna but maybe more difficult if your dog usually sleeps in the vestibule...... I have always preferred the Nallo 2 over the Unna in the past due to greater space and the lack of it not being freestanding doesn't really bother me. Now though I am not so sure having used the Unna...... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Yea i totally agree with you after watching your review.
I wonder what would happen if you did buy 8 additional guy lines with 4 more pegs and attach them just like the others, but with a 90 degree angle compared to the ones that are already there and going to the side.
(Two additional pegs and 4 guy lines in the back and two additional in the front with 4 guy lines)
You would possibly have a minimal gain in weight, but overall a great stability improvement.
( At least in my head that is ;) )
Absolutely spot on test,
You said 230 cm ? Length,
Would be near vertical ?
My mat is 7 cm so sounds appealing,
I might invest in a quality winter tent, but I won’t need the soulo as don’t intend to camp in really tough conditions, mind you the Cheviots are a windy range.
Thanks for the video, slowly getting through some of your content.
Keep em coming
Hi Mountain Hopper how are you? Yeah the Unna is pretty long at 230 cm but does slope in quite a bit once you add height on top of a mattress. It's a great versatile tent for reasonable conditions.. The free standing issue is not a major bonus for me so I think I would prefer a Nallo 2 to be honest and might try to track one down for a full review... ATB Tom
well done Tom !.. this is the review that I've been waiting for, forever !.. to me it makes so much sense but, I guess I'm going against the grain ?
Hi Sebastian, thank you I hope that you enjoyed it. The Unna really is a great tent very impressed. ATB Tom
I have seen other people use a pocket bellow kind of tool (small rubber bulb that would ordinarily be used to spray and atomize powder) to remove rain and dust of their camera lenses. You might be interested in that.
The Unna is the only Hilleberg tent I have hands on experience with. My first time in moderate rainstorm was quiet a let-down due to the guy out stakes wiggling loose at maybe 35 to 45 mph winds and the poles almost bending down onto my face. I use MSR groundhogs now for the guy outs, and 10mm poles seemed to make a big difference in getting a good nights sleep during gusty nights. I also managed to turn the Unna into a dome by installing a third pole widthwise but haven't tested that configuration yet in severe weather.
Hi Luke, thank you for commenting and your advice re the camera lens. I actually have one of those bulbs for cleaning the sensor so I will give it a try. That sounds like an interesting option with the extra pole as the tent is very un supported from the side... I am sure it would be tricky enough to make that work and attach! ATB Tom
Hi Luke Your third pole sounds interesting! What has been your experience with it, and do you have any photos of it in use? Cheers, Peter
Got one coming in the mail to check out, bit on the expensive side but something that keeps the wind out a bit better than my UL stuff and also is free standing got me curious. Weight is more than our 4 man tent hehe!
Hey I hope that you like the Unna. There is no doubt about the big difference in weight and there is a big division in opinion between lightweight and ultra light tents. At the moment I am still in the lightweight category. For example if you use a UL tent and bring any extra clothing or gear to keep warmer due to the lower protection then you are reducing the weight benefit in the first place. Durability too can be an issue as if I had a DCF floor in my tent I would prefer to protect it with a footprint and here we go again adding weight... I must admit though that I reviewed an Zpacks tent for 4 season usage and was very impressed. However I don't use walking poles and when you add in one to the structure then the weight advantage again starts to reduce. Some of the fabric bonding on the tent was starting to fail as well so I am still not sure they are for me... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 DCF is expensive for sure! I have a dcf groundsheet for my bivy camping tho, to protect the thin silnylon bivy hehe! True about the temperatures, my Tarptent Protrail gets A LOT of air flow. I am going to check out a few different tents these coming weeks, looking for something for those rainy days out solo camping and fishing.
Hilleberg should make a black label Unna option. ( Kerlon 18 fabric + 10mm Poles )
Plus improve the door with a full mossie net / zip down panel - for a nice view, even when lying down and keeping the Scottish midges at bay.
Yes I think in some aspects it would be simpler if they chose certain models and then just made yellow,red and black label versions.. Most of their tents need updating as the designs are very old and this is disappointing. The new tent options each year are also minimal... best wishes Tom
Great review thank you! The Unna is my third Hilleberg and my favourite - it’s a pleasure to be in. I haven’t had it out in wind yet and, while it is aerodynamic over the ends, I do wonder how a strong wind shifting round to the front or behind would buffer it. When pitching the continuous sleeves mean no more guy lines wrapping themselves around clips, and I find taking down is even quicker as both poles can be removed simultaneously. One improvement I’ve made to the original is to add two extra pockets - the Unna yellow inner only comes with one and it is on the left at the front so not where I want it. (The mesh inner comes with two, diagonally set.) The flexibility of the usage is amazing and if I’m camping with my folding bike I unclip front left corner to expand vestibule as you demonstrated. The views from inside the Unna are terrific too. I’ve been using it this summer with a mesh inner and love that too, and not just for the ventilation - it really enhances the experience of living inside the tent. 😁👍👍
Hi Peter, thank you for your detailed comments especially as an Unna owner. I totally agree about the wind shifting direction to the front or back and this would be my only reservation. Even with 10mm poles the tent has little support from the front or back....The guy lines and clips do get tangled on the Soulo for example and all of this takes time to manage. The pole sleeves are so fast but possible less suitable for extreme conditions. As I mentioned the main body of the tent can be set up in about 2 mins with full security in about 5 so super fast to set up. Yes to the pockets as Hilleberg are very lean in this respect so organised storage could be better. Having the door the full length of the tent is great and lends itself to great views of the outside if conditions are good. Many thanks once again Peter for your continued comments on my videos. ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 I have bought some extra guy line, and carabiners in case they’re needed to be hooked on fast but the front/back could be a weak point.
@@petergilbert72 Thats a good idea as you never know when the conditions can change... Tom
Have to say i always look forward to your videos. They are always intresting and done on great products.
Have u tried a niak and if u have how it compares to the unna for internal space? Cheers mate excellent stuff.
Hi Chris, thank you for your comments. I haven't had the opportunity to try the Niak but it in theory as I am sure that you have looked is a little wider but not as long.. One of my other comments talks about the Niak and actually prefers it over the Unna but with 10mm poles. I personally don't fancy the lighter weight fabrics as they are just so prone to accidental damage but that's only my opinion.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for the reply. I have a soulo for my solo trips but was thinking of a lighter weight 3 season when my wife comes along. Being use to a sturdy tent i know what you mean though.
Hey Tom, thanks for the great review. I have always admired this simple tent design, my most comfortable outings have been in similar designs, but with matching doors on both sides, was wondering if you had any thoughts on the matter? At any point did you wish the tent could be opened on both sides?
Hi Fred, the matching door idea would make the tent extremely versatile, especially for two users and extra gear storage. I suppose Hilleberg decide primarily who or how many the tent is for and design it around that... Adding extra features adds weight and costs and they have to decide where to draw the line.... I think with the double door option it would take the tent to 2.6kg and that would make it too heavy for some users... Not saying I am right here but just my thoughts.... Thank you for yours once again.... ATB Tom
I think you are exactly right. With Hilleberg and their thoroughness, adding another door would be a big deal, both cost and weight would be increased, but having the luxurious extra door for a tent that is already a bit heavy and a bit expensive and a bit luxurious might not be a big ask for folks using this tent. Folks want Hilleberg tents for all sorts of reasons, but two reasons to never buy a Hilleberg are weight and price.
Thanks for the review, it's just too expensive for me, like you say "there is no evidence of cost cutting" but they've went to extremes, all the best.
Hey thank you for your comments.. I know they are pricey.. Price still going up too...I think though they hold their value very well so I tent to buy, use and sell for very little cost apart from the initial outlay.. My experience of customer service is also fantastic.. Still they are not for everyone and I appreciate that . Thank you once again for expressing your thoughts 🤔.. Best wishes Tom
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You are welcome. Tom
I'd be nervous taking it out in winter due to the weak sides. Also it looks like it would be vulnerable when taking it down and setting it up in high winds. If you know it ill be nice weather, would make a nice spacous tent, but in the UK, Scotland in particular, the weather can change quickly without warning.
Hi you have definitely identified the weaknesses of the Unna. While its a great tent these are the reasons that I personally would not buy one... Weak from the side and even quite a large surface area for the wind to catch end on... Still so many owners never use to this capacity and just camp in good weather... best wishes and thank you for this comment... Tom
Tom, very informative again. Would like to understand your thoughts on sleeping bag etc touching the inner tent. I'm 193cm (approx 6,3-6,4) and other than Enan and Helags have not found a Hilleberg I can lie in without sleeping bag and/or head touching the inner tent. With autumn/winter approaching and thus spending more time in the tent I'm looking for more interior space that Enan (which I own and love) provides, but find Helags too heavy for solo use...
Not even the Helags 2 at 2.4kg? I'm 209 cm so I really feel your pain, I'm thinking of opting for the Kaitum 2 (3.1kg) for solo use, heavy it might be but I'd rather have comfort than be cramped inside with my head and feet touching the inner. I tried an Akto and my feet and head were soaking. I'd love to try out the Unna it could possibly tick most boxes. Just a shame I couldn't take my Exped mat and sleeping bag to try the tents before buying one as they're not cheap if they don't suit.
I hope to film the Unna against the Akto, and Soulo over the next couple of days. I will show more of the length considerations for the Unna to try and help longer users.... Tom
@@Hightower600 You make a fair point. maybe I got too hung up on weight watching all these UL videos. BTW I would reckon a good outdoor retailer will let you try the tent either with you own equipment or something similar they have in store. I live near Utrecht in the Netherlands and here I have two retailers that have pooled some money together and operate a big place where you can really try all the tents from the most notable names
@@TOMHEANEY100 That would definitely be awesome. my tip: Enan seems better suited to longer users over Akto because of the construction with the single larger pole at the end (but is obviously not a red label tent)
@@sigaar109 I’m sure you are aware of Rob’s channel (also from the Netherlands). He is going to review the Hilleberg Helags 3 and post up a video on his channel soon, between him and Tom they produce the most comprehensive and in depth reviews of Hilleberg tents that exist.
That is a fair point about trying out a tent before you buy one. It’s something that I’ve been planning but with the shortage of models available at the same time it could prove difficult and I’d also have to travel to a different country but it would certainly make sense given the cost of the Hilleberg range.
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Hi Tom, I'm thinking of getting an Unna. The quoted length is 230 cm from the base. What sort of length is there once you are on a mat? I'm not that tall (178cm / 5' 10"), but concerned my winter bag could touch the ends.
As a much taller person, do you ever find the footbox of your bag (or your head) ever touches the inner walls?
Hi Simsday, thank you for watching.. This Unna was borrowed to review so I am not regularly using it to give you a detailed answer.. But as far as I am aware I had no issues with the length.. I actually noticed length issues on the Staika more as the dome slopes in very quickly... All tents have pros and cons and a longer tent will then weigh more.. 230 cm is definitely enough for the majority of users and as I mentioned before I noticed no issues here in the Unna. ATB Tom
Hey Tom !.. how's things ?.. I keep coming back to this review... but stuck between this and the MSR Access 2
Hi Sebastian, it's always personal on what features matter to you.. The obvious one is outer vs inner pitching but also vestibule space.. While there have been some people who have had issues with their Hilleberg tents, the 6 ones that I have handled have been perfect quality and construction wise.. Personally I don't like the pole hub type connection on the MSR but have never had personal experience of it.. Going back to the quality issue Hilleberg put all their efforts into tents whereas MSR make many products... Hope this is of some help.. ATVB Tom
Hi Tom I'm just doing some research on the unna and your my hilleberg guru lol.i was out in the snow last night with my kuiu and at 3.3kg with footprint I was thinking I didn't need this much strength because the winds were fairly light but I couldn't use my niak because of the snow so was thinking the unna might be a good choice even with the 10mm poles I'd still be saving a kilo have you heard any problems with the unna as it looks like I might be getting another tent lol 😁
No probs with the Unna especially with 10mm poles.. The vestibule is small and its a bit vulnerable from the sides but I suppose most tents have a better or worse orientation into the wind... Most Unna owners seem to be very happy with them and high winds can ultimately catch out most tents... Its never an easy decision so I hope this review helps... Best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 yea I won't be out in the unna in daft weather if I want that then I'll take the kuiu but I love the space of the niak but can't take that in the snow so I'm thinking the unna will fit the bill nicely
Hillebergs own pictures and pitching video do a disservice to this tent. It makes it look like it has zero vestibule and the pictures do not show that low venting option.
Hi Matt, yes there Hilleberg videos are very old not even in proper HD.... I hope that this video show cased the tent better. ATB Tom
Owned 2 over the decades. If and when the wind changes, say no more. It has its place like any tent or shelter. Boundaries!!! Better and cheaper choices out there.
Hi Catherine, thank you for your comments especially as having used Unna's for many years. Yes I would be a little concerned at the tents ability to resist winds from any direction due to its pole configuration.... ATB Tom
Over one thousand nights in an Unna, all over the world using 10mm DAC poles. Never an issue. Two words, site selection. Tent is still going strong. I calculate about 35p a night to date. Curious about the better cheaper options.
Great review, do you think it would be possible to cook inside the vestibule, with the door closed, without having to unclip the inner tent? Or is it to small?
Thats a great question Dale, Borderline I hope to video again today comparing the Akto, Soulo and Unna so I will consider this and either reply here or show it in the video.... ATB Tom
Depends on the cooker, I suppose. Needs to be low to the ground, methinks.
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Just wondering if you knocked an Easton peg in to hold the centre of the long side back further would that create adequate extra space ? Should help a lot as it'd pull the elastics, so thinking 8" here.
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Dale, this is my tent he's threatening to burn down, but I've got a replacement as new guarantee from Tom. Ha !
@@Super.Quasar Yes Gary as there is a great length along the inner and its not too taught you can get it retracted well back into the inner tent without even having to un clip it at the ends. Something as you suggest would work. I will try to show and demo this or something similar when I video the Unna again this week against the mighty Soulo and outstanding Akto... Tom
Excellent review, thanks a lot.
My only concern is the inner length of the Unna.
I am 198cm tall and my concern is touching the walls as they are not vertical like the Keron or Kaitum.
Please help,
Greetings from Germany 🤗
Hi Thorsten, I will try. At the moment I am in the process of filming another video which includes the Unna. I know that Rob from Rob Outdoor Prep is 196cm and he may me doing an Unna review and demo and also on other Hillebergs for tall users. I am 186 so not quite in the realm of you guys.... ATB Tom
Hi Thorsten, actually I am just as tall as you are: 198 cm, and I have slept many, many nights in my Unna. It is true that we 198ers will touch the inner fabric a bit. But it doesn't prevent me from sleeping like a baby. However, when there is heavy condensation on the inner, you should protect the feet of you sleeping bag to get damp from it. I wouldn't change the Unna for any other.
@@TOMHEANEY100 Dear Tom,
just ordered the Unna after a long time watching videos on it.
Thanks a lot for the reply,
Cheers, Thorsten
Tom... which tent would you choose for Northern "windy" Sweden/Finland use for one person (with room): Soulo, Unna, Nick, Rogan. I have the Fjällräven Abisko Lite 3 and other Fjällräven tents, but wanted more of a freestanding tent.
Weight is my issue. I have a Staika... but TOO heavy for one person (unless winter).
Thoughts?
C
Hi, if weight is your issue then freestanding kind of makes that impossible. For example an Unna is the same weight as a Nallo 2 but much less inner and and vestibule space... An Unna has the space but not really great in windy conditions.. The Soulo strong but heavy and little space. So you need to decide on what is important to you. Niak or Rogan, light and spacious but are definitely 3 season tents and would struggle in winds over 40 mph. .Really sorry but I cant answer your question as you are listing contrasting variables.. best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Have you had the Unna in winds? It has a LOT of surface area. for the wind to hit.
My Abisko Lite 3 is amazing... but I want something freestanding. My Staika is like super heavy....
Been thinking between the Unna, Rogan, and Soulo. :)
@@TheTrailDancer Yes the Unna has a lot of surface area for its poles to support so not a great wind tent.. The Rogan will be worse so maybe you just need to manage your space in the Soulo.... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 do you fit the the Soulo ok? Is the room enough for you?
@@TheTrailDancer Yes I fit ok but generally not much space.. Sometimes though it depends what you are used to..
5 years in Iceland with mine
Hi Steve, A great location for camping. The Unna is a great tent and I am sure you will get many more years from it. aTB Tom
Does it have no-see em mesh as well as with the soulo? sorry if said I missed it.
Hi John, yes it does thank you. ATB Tom
Very nice review. I am sorry if this is inappropriate but where in the UK or IRE is this accent from, specifically, not generally? Thanks (I’m just very interested in languages and accents).
Hi it's from North County Down in Northern Ireland. Bangor.. No worries at all..Best wishes and where are you from?? Tom
Any ideas on sun protection …how long does it protected for uv .
Hi thank you for watching, that's a tricky one.. Its a balancing act for all fabric types regarding, costs, tear strength, weight and UV Resistance never mind the other the many other aspects of the tent design. DCF fabric for example has better UV resistance than nylon but not many tent designs to choose from... Polyester too has better UV resistance but much lower tear strength. Thicker Nylon ie 70D will also have better UV resistance than the 30d used here... ATB Tom
would this fit me at 6.4 and a large pad? I dont want to touch the ends
I honestly don't think you will fit . You will definitely touch the ends IMO.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 damn. What about the kautum ? Do you think that will fit me?
@@Hajmeddig123 I know the Kaitum will easily fit. The owner of the one I tested is 6ft 7.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thank you so much!
@@Hajmeddig123 welcome
I would pick niak over unna any day with10mm poles.
Yes, the Niak is another option and offers impressive space and lighter weight..ATB Tom
I have an Unna and love it. Just bought some extra 10mm poles. Now I have the option of "double poling" too (why does that sound so wrong?!).
I swithered over the Niak but ultimately went Unna. I hope to see a Niak sometime to see by how much their vestibules differ in practice.
Are u out camping soon?
Not sure, I have an underlying heart issue at the moment and have been told not to go into the mountains by my consultant so that's the honest reason that I haven't been camping in the hills.... ATB Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 sorry to hear that hope you are ok and get better soon
Geezus, edit out the stupid camera lens issues, no one wants to watch that crap.
Mmm 27k views and you are the first to comment like this...Even so if you can be more specific I'll have a look ...best wishes and happy new year.. Tom