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00:54 - Usyk Beats Fury by Split Decision
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DOES TYSON FURY BEAT OLEKSANDR USYK IN A REMATCH? đ€
If he applies himself and sticks to what works no reason he couldnât win.
Can't see it
No, he gets more comprehensively beaten....
HELL NO. Not any day of the week.
Idk, but i think Usyk is the best. I enjoy Tyson, but I love Usyk. He's something really special.
Stop making excuses for Fury and just give a proper boxer the credit he deserves. His CV was already better than Furyâs before they fought, now itâs complete. Happy New Year boys đđđ
đ Happy New Year đ€Ł
"It's all about the lifestyle" .... boys. I'd say it's more about the skills.
Happy new year chappy
âItâs happening boysâ yes Frank it happened alright! đ
Happy newYEAAAARRRR
The great thing about fights actually happening is that we can stop being "told" who is the best fighter by media and we can simply see the fight outcomes.
Wow - how enlightening. Thanks for that.
Amen brother đ
Yep , real fans love fights, fanboys love fighters
Years of being told how Fury and Wilder beat every single other heavyweight, so grateful I donât have to read that nonsense anymore
@@DannyTaylorDT exactly buddy
Usyk wasnt just fighting Fury, he was taking on the entire boxing industry, and all of the leeches who get paid off him.
Give the man his respect, Usyk is an all time generational great. Undisputed at cruiser and heavyweight in 22 fights.
Wow.
I hate the media saying that in the future AJ needs to do this, or Fury needs to do that. No. They have already failed and the fight for supremacy has ended. They can't do anything and the Brits are big old failures in their quest for undisputed, they should all retire. Usyk is the only king and forever will be.
@@butmay1893 What's your nationality?
@@louduva9849 What relevance does that have? I am British Irish
@butmay1893 and what relevance does the nationality of AJ and Fury have?
Spot on
Simon lost all credibility and was so keen to gain Fury approval he forgot about being real.
He must have repeated how Fury stops Usyk at least 500 times in the past 3 months, absolutely dying to get unbanned from the event đ
He never had any credibility to speak about boxing to begin with!!
He simply told his casual listers what they wanted to hear!!
Both him and Fury have now been exposed for talking absolute garbage for the last six years!!
The fact is he's a failed carphone warehouse owner why would he have a clue about boxing?
Absolutely
You know when you hear a clueless bird or posh boy talking about football to impress peers and you cringe really hard? That.
Hasn't got a scooby.
Simon Jordon has never rated Usyk, it just shows what he knows about boxing. He wrote him off against AJ in both fights, and after the first fight he said, "Anthony Joshua fought usyk in the only way that Usyk could win". He then said the second AJ fight would be a easy victory for AJ, and when it wasnt, he then made out AJ was a busted flush. He didn't give Usyk a chance against Fury, and when Tony Bellew asked him why he believed that, he said "because fury has the better skills", really Simon? Hes not half as skilled as Usyk, and his size, and his reach, is the one and only advantage he has over Usyk.
Yeah for someone that goes to a lot of boxing and hangs round with boxers, its shocking how ignorant Simon is of the finer points of boxing
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Me too there all the same banging on about fury and aj the best fight to make calling them number 1 and 2 uski beat the pair of them and he still not getting credit imagine if fury won they be banging on for days he is best ever boxer that ever lived
He's clueless. For someone who's supposedly watched boxing since the 80's he's clueless on the sweet science and sounds like a casual.
â@@splinter360 the thing with Simon is he's like that as a person through and through. Clueless on everything but a pompous know it all who feels he has to maintain his image and feign superiority.
He talks in a fake posh accent and always tries to use big words that he can't even pronounce, like "monosyllabic".
He can't even pronounce "genuinely". I find that so laughably ironic.
Tyson blocked every hook, cross and jab with his face. Well done!
Hahahahah! His melon head was easy to hit
Exactly, and for the first 6 - 7 rounds, on the scoring rules of Boxing, FURY SCORED MORE SCORING POINTS, THAN USYK. Remembering, unless it's a knockdown, rounds are scored, 10 - 9, or 10 - 10, if a round was even, and only 10- 8, in a knockdown round, but I believe this fight should have been called a, Draw, as in my opinion, it hasn't shown, really, who is the best on the planet in this eara.
For this fight, to be called a split decision win to USYK was too close to call and should have been called a draw, especially with a rematch clause. No massive Clear Winner, for what was on offer to win, Remember, FURY V WILDER 1,,, FURY WON EVERY ROUND, YET THE VERDICT WAS, GIVEN, AS A DRAW!! SO THIS FIGHT WAS MUCH CLOSER WITH MORE ON THE LINE, BUT BEING CROWNED WORLD UNIFIED CHAMPION ON A SPLIT DECISION. TO ME,, PROVES NOTHING, I DISAGREE WITH SPENCER OLIVER, THAT USYK TOOK THE FIGHY TO FURY, FROM ROUND 1. I HAD FURY WINNING N IN FRONT UPTO ROUND 7.
âââ@@paulsmith57your delusional. This is why boxing is so corrupt. No wonder why it was Usyk against the whole industry ! Well Fury definitely aint the best on the planet. He sunk boxing, and has always ducked fights . Hes always đ picked for easy pay & tried worming his way out of mandatories and constantly tricked and conned the public!
You obviously have no idea how to score a boxing match!!â@@paulsmith57
Spencer uses the phrase "nobody saw that coming" far too often, just because he didn't predict something it doesn't mean nobody did
Also "what done him."
@@sticksman1979 "Adaptability"
Itâs funny because the majority of comments I read actually did see an Usyk win coming
âWhat Iâm saying isâ
Well, if you look at my previous comments I told everyone that I saw this coming as far back as 2 years ago.
But then I was involved in boxing for 12 years in Europe, RSA and Argentina and have nothing to do with "fan judgements", I judge boxing ability.
What do you mean: "No one expected the tactics from Usyk"? Usyk has been a come forward fighter his whole career and didn't back peddle against a much bigger puncher in AJ. So what made you think he'd run from Fury?
Shows you how much they know
They just want to disrespect Usyk. They canât take him beating British fighters absolute clowns.
@@stevenskliros9608 Clueless
@@ChampChamp2024 100%. Most of this video was why Tyson lost instead of why Usyk won. Giving no real credit to Usyk.
People who know boxing knew this itâs just the narrative they like to peddle for the casuals. Same as Bricktop with his Usykâs a cry baby comments in the lead up. Glad he went for it and beat him quite literally from pillar to post! Never doubted Usyk this feather fisted narrative is ridiculous too he mixes up hard shots with lighter ones to be efficient but also to bamboozle his opponents! Death by 1000 cuts as they say. He said Chisoraâs head was like hitting concrete so he was going to hardly risk breaking his hand in those final rounds against him when he had AJ lined up next was he? Yet people ran with that narrative.
Knowing John fury is crying makes me smileđ
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It gives me a warm feeling inside.
Every time John Fury cries an angel gets its wings.
Simon, let it goâŠUsyk is the better fighter. Your bias has got to go
"Usyk answered all the questions wehad abour his ability to take a punch and his toughness". No Spencer: those are questions that only you, Simon and other Fury praise singers had. Most neutral pundits knew that Usyk is tougher, mentaly stronger, punches harder and is far more skilled than Fury. Your boy was bullied by a man who"s 20kg lighter. He was also saved from a brutal knockout by the ref.
Usyk has always been levels above Fury.
Yep that's keeping it real something these two muppets know nothing about
Great analysis, summons it all up perfectly. Fury doesn't have a chance in hell to redeem himself and become the undisputed, he's far gone. He will loose every fight from now on, because he's a beat man. A blown up middleweight rabbit-punched him into oblivion once and for all.
It's crazy this guy is a boxing pundit and didn't know Usyk had a crazy chin. Its like they didn't see AJ (far bigger puncher than Fury) land flush hooks on Usyk and the man ate them.
Bullied? Youâre an idiot, a bully implies that the other fighter wasnât even in the chance.. if you think that, then yes youâre an idiot.
Simon, Usyk isn't Wilder! your a brilliant pundit but I'm a little perturbed đ that you can't just say that Usyk is in class of his own and is a better than Fury .
He's not a "brilliant" pundit. He's clueless on boxing and just tries to state the obvious and pretend it's expert opinion. He's very similar to piers Morgan
Simon got his prediction wrong and is trying to justify himself and yet Fury was obviously a nervous wreck the closer the match came, he knew what he was going to face dude could not look Usky in the eye. You just have to look at Usky eyes in the ring.Scary stuff.
Fury was literally bashing fury when he sit down on his punches tf you talking about.... fury literally cost himself the fight by showboating
â@@weseethetruth158we really should give Fury more credit because he's always outnumbered in the ring. He has his opponent and his own braggadocious ass that makes him squander his lead just long enough things start slipping out of his control.
Heâs a nonconformist. He canât help it
This dude with glasses said that Fury will knock Usyk out. Now he acting like some boxing connoisseur.
He's a businessman first and foremost
Lennox Lewis favoured Fury too. You can't be right every time
Dude is just yapping.. his super bias and his waking up now.. Usky never made AJ dance. AJ was in the middle of the ring the whole time. Fury got bullied
â@@peternagy-im4bethe way he talks, looks, dresses, and gestures just screams 'sleazy English record producer' to me. Obviously he's not a record producer, but he is most certainly a sleazy English businessman who is trying to weasel himself out of the trap he caught himself in to salvage his credibility. He's trying to bend reality around the host to make his wrong prediction seem right instead of being honest and just saying he got it wrong and usyk was a lot more than he expected. He certainly can't blame fury though, because he still needs to brown nose
^what on earth are you lot on about Simon is always on talk sport discussing football & boxing lol
Simon looks upset That Dosser Fury got a BEAT DOWN n almost KO'd by the smaller man UYSK đ€Ł
MISSING PERSON: big John fury âTHE FIGHTING MANâ has been missing since sometime Saturday night and hasnât been heard of since. If anyone has any information please keep it to your self and keep John fury away from boxing đ
Froch kills me every time he says that, for me it never gets not funny
We re still looking for bully John and fat Shane fury even a bolo is out there đ€Łđ€Șđ€Ł
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He took Bellew's advice and made it home to his wife and kids
is it just me, or do these guys just sound clueless?
No mate, you're right. They're total novices.
Simon Jordan self proclaimed boxing expert that knows nothing about the actual sport.
Nothing?
Heâs knows nothing? Iâm sure ppl at talkSPORT and his other employees wouldnât have him talking about something he knows nothing about,
Think about it
@@robmac5578 ok rob
When has he ever said himself that he is a boxing expert? If you can't find the answer to that, then that makes you a moron.
Always has to make a point he went to this boxing match or that boxing match back in the day.
Last week he stated fury had only been knocked down by 2 people which is a joke. Obviously it's 4 and many other things he gets wrong. He is clueless at times and if he worked on MOTD or another he would be sacked from not doing his indepth research
And here we go, the inevitable âFury wasnât at itâ, âFury didnât hate himâ - how about Usyk is the best of this generation?
HE WASNT
He lost to the better man end of,try giving usyk credit instead of making excuses for Fury
Simon nailed it with his smug "a good big one, beats a good lil one" line for the whole week.
Heâs not come up with that one. That started in the days of big George Foreman.
Simon just repeats what other people say
Not true though is it đ
Lennox Lewis has said that aswell
A great little n beats a good big n
The reason he wasn't looking at Usyk in that maniacal way was because, 1, he knew it wouldnt have any psychological effect, 2, that Usyk was a major threat, and 3, unlike his fight with Wilder, he was not at all confident that he knew how to beat him.
Or because there wasn't really any bad blood between them unlike Fury-Wilder 3
@@HisExcellencyBđ€Łwhoâs the best heavyweight of this generation? No-one cares about all the chat - only matters who wins in the ring
Itâs because usyk doesnât really speak English so fury knew it was a waste of time and the games and tricks wouldnât work
@@RatedH1 Usyk
Usyk gave him that from the moment he disrespected him. Focus and dedication in his eyes
Well Simon......you called it WRONG as usual đ
Ref saved Fury from being starched.
If the ref wanted to "save" him, he would've stepped in and called it a knockdown earlier, instead of letting him take multiple clean shots whilst hurt. Silly narrative.
@@HisExcellencyB idiot lol
Watch it back, Usyk held off probably assuming the ref would jump in. Usyk could have smoked him but chose not too.
@@HisExcellencyB usyk won by TKO! tyson couldn't defend himself! about 20 un answered shots. when the ref stepped in i thought he was waving it off, which he should of done
dont you know boxing? fury not wanting to quit and take a knee kept him up and the ropes kept him up giving usyk all the time in the world all that extra chance to finish the job AND STILL COULDNT reminds me of when a huge steriod garcia couldnt finish a drained battered hurt haney.. its embarrasing.
Give Usyk his props, 100% props. He fought a game and fully fit Fury and against the whole of the boxing industry and he whopped Furyâs ass in round 9, where the ref should have waved it off. Stop making excuses for Tyson Fury about his lack of motivation, desire and his lifestyle coming into play. Fury was at his best physically but not mentally because he knew Usyk was a serious threat and formidable opponent. Usyk defied the odds and beat Fury fair square and is probably pound for pound no.1.
Someone needs to tell Simon that Usyk was also involved in the fight and believe it or not he won.
Yeah exactly, all this talk of Fury being complacent and giving multiple excuses for him overshadows the fact that Usyk is a serial winner and a better fighter.
@@kurtiscarpenter3502 After the 6th round, I thought Fury was beginning to dominate and would press on. That did not happen, Usyk took the fight from the 8th round, with the 9th round being the fight changing round. Overall, I had it 114-113 Usyk, with Tyson winning rounds 2,4,5,6,7 and 12. It was a great fight with a clear winner in Usyk. What annoyed me in this video is Jordan, lisping his way through talking about the peripheries of this fight instead of both fighters performance on the night. So much nuanced discussion can happen but he chooses to pinpoint irrelevant issues.
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Simon Jordon: Fury stands head and shoulders above everyone else. Generational great!! đđđđđđđ the show should be called donât talk boxing!
Preach!
I like it đđđđ
What gets me is how these Fury nutlickers always rant on about Furys so called âgreat boxing brainâ when in reality itâs a mythâŠ.the man just has huge advantages over his opponents thatâs allâŠ.
Usyk won. Fury is a childish oaf. His supporters are the dregs of GB.
SJ still makes it all about Fury under performing jesus. Simon, you fell for Fury's BS. Fury's been mostly fighting tailor made opponents
I have to agree after watching the fight back with no commentary it gives you a clear picture of how easily Usyk actually won. Iâd say 60-75% of Furyâs punches landed on Usyks arms and gloves. What I saw was the first time Fury was tagged by a Usyk left he panicked, probably at how hard he was hit.
I think Fury feared Usyk before this fight and didnât believe in himself that he could beat Usyk. How could Fury ever be one of the greats? Who exactly has he fought? His CV compared to someone like Usyks is laughable, a man who has ducked big fights consistently should never be thought of as one of the greats.
He will be worried bout taking a shot of Usyk if there is a rematch and because of that I think Usyk wins bigger. It doesnât matter what Fury does, Usyk will adjust and do what he does.
Simon finding a way to not give Usyk credit and it was all about Furyâs mistakes and mindset đ. Happy new year
Thats all needed to say to fury knob slobbers HAPPY NEW YEAR... Done!
TalkSport A.K.A. Fury apologist society...
Why canât people understand, itâs not about anything else other than Usyk is better than fury. They fight 10 times Usyk wins 9 of them.
Fury was always good but has never been great, his cv is showing that!
John Fury has the âmenaceâ when he is bullying Carl frampton
But not when he meets AJ
Like father like son
John Fury is a disgrace, who lives off of his sonâs fame. Tyson is a legend.
Right u are.
AJ tucked his balls in his skirt and submitted against Mr Blobby
Carl Frampton walking away from him was hilarious!
The disrespect that you lot at Talksport showed Usyk before this fight was amazing. Parroting lazy lines like "good big 'un beats good little 'un" and "Fury will ragdoll him", talking like it was a foregone conclusion Fury would win, pathetic. You guys just couldn't see what was in front of your eyes, yes Fury is a great boxer, but he was facing an all-time great in Usyk who excels against bigger less coordinated fighters. Usyk is the best heavyweight of this era.
Spot on. These muppets havenât got a clue what theyâre watching. This fight wouldâve been even more one sided if fury didnât duck it for 2 years
During fight week these licked Fury's ring clean, I'm talking 7 and 8 helpings a day.
beautiful description
đ€Łđ€Ł exactly
Wilder was never that good
42 KO's cope and seethe
Congrats captain hindsight, thanks for your wonderful analysis
â@@Olympiamaniac i mean it has to be said , he was only rated to prop up fury . Any one with more than 1 brain cell could see through it , who has he fought and won to get such ratings as 2nd best HW? he loses almost all his fights on points even to lowly ranked opponents and get KO's any surprise it wasn't going to work as he fought better opposition.
@@rc9719 wilder is now pushing 40, fury fought him at his peak when he was champion with many defences, itâs like people saying Roy Jones is a bum after he lost to Antonio tarver and lost 10 times since or roger Federer was a bad tennis player because he lost to Hubert hurkacs 6/0 at Wimbledon. People have short term memories,
Nothing do with the âdark menaceâ shite excuses he
Wasnât good enough simple as that he trained as hard as he could for this fight and he wasnât good enough Usyk is just the better man
Usyk def won the fight. But honestly Fury won 2 rounds EASILY when he threw his looping right hand after his long jab. Problem was Fury only threw that looping right hand for 2 rounds and for some reason he did not throw it for the other 10 rounds.
Fury was rattled when he realised he couldn't get in usyks head
What did Fury expect? Lol...not everyone will be fazed by his trash talk. I bet Mike Tyson would have dealt with his trash talk too.
I loved the way Usyk dealt with Fury's showboating; he completely ignored it and refused to engage. Perfect.
Youâre clueless bud, all the antics are to sell the fight to sheep like you, they donât care about âgetting in each otherâs headâ they know itâs a fight on the night that matters but keep believing fairytales
â@user-bk9fk2tq2z Mike would have bit one of his nipples off at the weigh in đ
I like the way usyk just brushed off everything he tried, in and out of the ring
Excuses excuses excuses.. after that convincing, unambiguous defeat on saturday night i was imagining simon sitting there wondering how he was going to spin this. Putting it down to fury's mental state diminishes usyk's remarkable achievement against the odds (from a physical perspective) and gives both simon and fury a "way out". Simon's been well and truly found out and id love it for once if he held his hands up and said he got it wrong, but i don't think it's his character to be able to do that
Because Fury new he could beat Wilder but deep down knew he would have to fight the fight of his life to beat Usyk.
Yes agreed, he know wilder was dangerous but knew he posed no real overall threat . Like his father a bully.
He switched and turned more passive and respectful closer to the fight because he knew he was up against it and was well aware of defeat looming.
Yeah there different levels of boxing IQ between wilder & usyk
Of course. Fury let slip nany times against Wilder that the ghy ckuldnt box and he was taking an easy touch.
I thought this was a simple win for Fury. Remember the line Simon and Spencer constantly repeated 'a good big one beats a good little one.' Spencer was adamant Fury was going to bully Usyk physically, well there was only one man on the front foot and one man with the bigger blows delivered and that's the 'good little one.' I suggest more respect is given to Usyk now, the respect he had ALREADY EARNED BEFORE this fight, being a generational great boxer.
They didnât understand that Fury is a good big un, but Usyk is an elite, not so big un, but still 6.4 and 16 stone ffs lol
Yeah sick of hearing that line - when they interviewed that row of fans in Saudi you just knew someone was going to quote that line! No one ever says what about a good big one vs a phenomenal little one though!
@@Dan-qk3mt They were giving Fury the title of being the number one heavyweight before this fight even took place! Just so much levels of disrespect to Usyk. I remember how Groves and others almost got pressed by Simon Jordan/Spencer Oliver/Jim White because he picked Usyk to win on talksport. It was a crime to pick against Fury in their minds
A very fair point.I picked Fury and am slightly gutted he lost however i have to admit that Usyk is an elite level operator and worthy undisputed belt holder.
@@redprince1000 they also underestimate his clinching skills and the narrative that Fury would simply lay on him. You can see from previous videos of training camps with Usyk over the years that he does have wrestling experience and even had a Ukranian Olympic wrestling champ in a previous camp! He has such dynamic training camps incorporating a number of skills. If the answer was trying to simply lay on him he wouldnât be where he is now.
No version of fury beats usyk
I knew this was gonna happen, right off the bat from Simon it's "Why did Fury lose this fight? Was it his motivation? He didn't look the Wilder version, do you think he's the best version of Fury?" He didn't lose this fight. Oleksandr Usyk went out and won it. He is the best fighter that Fury has ever been in there with and he pressured him nonstop until he tired and he took over.
Spencer is right about him making Fury work, but he understates it. That front foot pressure by Usyk was absolutely relentless all the way through. Fury didn't get the rests that he normally takes after landing his flashy combination, Usyk was right there again every time making him work.
No rests. No Breaks. You can throw those combinations and move really well nonstop through these middle rounds but can you keep it up through 7, 8, 9 10? I don't think you can, but guess what? This guy can. He will not slow down. He will not stop. He is like a metronome and he is going to keep ticking until you switch him off but nobody's even been able to put a dent in him yet.
It was an incredible display of pressure fighting from a genius against a man that ultimately couldn't keep up with him.
100%. SJ is such a dvi hiding behind self importance because he made some dosh. too many bsuinessmen think they are armchair psychologists imho
Absolutely spot on.
You pundits do not have the grace you were wrong , such huge yes men for the Fury clan.
Sad isn't it
@@wilsont6303 very , i'm sick of the boxing interviewers that are scared to go agsinst the Fury , and WBC corrupt narrative. I get they need to get viewers , but i like it said how it really is
No one take talk sport serious , people watch for the hilarious delusional content.đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
seriously*
Nah it was a great video.
Fury isn't underestimating his opponents he just isn't that good anyway apart from winning against a shot klitschko in a borefest whos he beat? Hes been fightin D level opponents to look good but soon as a real A level turns up fury loses
Mad people canât see this. Before the fight, all i heard was how much of a supreme boxer Fury was and his speed, footwork, ring IQ was levels above Usyk and for all those reasons is why he lost
Usykâs footwork made him be able to close the distance with ease and create angles to use the lead hand as either a diversion or overhand forcing Fury to move left into the straight left every time..Fury was slow because he couldnât move his feet quick enough and sorted to using his lead hand to just hold Usykâs head and push his neck
He showed how little he could adjust - look how Usyk used his IQ to switch the angle after the 6th to evade getting caught on the way in - shifting both his feet further to the right.. - genius
Now itâs all canât outbox him (we knew this already) - what we now know is he canât bully either. If Fury did try being on the front, Usyk will easily slip, counter and KO Fury for sure.
Calm down simp you're clueless
This panel has all the excuses for AJ and Tyson not beating Usyk but no praise for Usyk. Both show their bias by stating that they didnât use their size properly. Could it be that Usyk is a generational great?
AJ goes 24 rounds and Simon digs him out. Fury gets slapped around and should have been knocked out but was saved by the ref yet Fury is still a beast according to Simon. His bias clouds his judgement, he cannot see whatâs right in front of him.
Fury told you he trained correctly for Francis yet you made an excuse for him. And he lost that fight too.
Itâs why he did everything he could to avoid Usyk. He managed to avoid AJ but the Saudis prevented Fury fighting Chisora for a tenth time.
If he takes the rematch, heâll be beaten quicker and even more convincingly because Usyk knows him now.
Usyk was robbed of a KO. Heâs an all time great. Two divisions undisputed, undefeated.
100 percent, SJ is so arrogant and too often wrong, especially for a 1 vs 1 sport
Best part is it was clear that the Usyk that AJ fought was in his prime. This usyk was slower, less agile and more sloppy.
Cannt listen to those ppls anymore...giving excuses and narrative! The man get beatenup period.
Fury did way better than aj lets be real here it was a very close fight with only 12 punches in it between them aj didnt even win 5 rounds over the 24 he had
Calm down simpđ It was a split decision don't get carried away
Fury was as good as he ever was, as fast as he was in the klit fight but more pop like in the Wilder fight, Usyk is just better.
I think Usyk hit him harder than Wilder did (not saying he hits harder, he caught him more flush a couple of times)
Yep, I keep seeing people trying to say Fury wasn't at his best but he actually fought as well as he ever has. He was sharp when he could get off, he looked like he carried his power well and was fast. His recovery abilities were spot on and his stamina stayed good the entire fight, and it was still well short of being enough to beat Usyk. It is what it is, Fury is a good heavyweight with an incredible frame and tools to give anyone in history trouble. Usyk is just a better boxer and a class above Fury.
@@MW-yp3cv some wonât hear it though, Fury is/was very good, Usyk is just ATG
How can you 2 be so WRONG . Oliver said Fury would RAG DOLL Usyk . Jordon has never said a good word about Usyk 2 CLOWNS
Usyk's an absolute Magician in the Ring
Why is the focus always on what Fury was doing? "I didn't see the same menace in Fury's eyes blah blah blah". How about how cool and calm Usyk looked throughout the whole build up. Usyk had Fury's number from the start and you can understand why Fury ducked the fight for over a year.
9:50 Wrong again. When Usyk said "Don't be scared , I will not leave you alone" He wasn't talking about the fight itself , he was talking about sharing Furys sorrow after the fight , his promoter said so pre fight.
Tyson Furys resume includes 3 wins over Chisora and 3 wins over Wilder. đđđđ its absolutely embarrassing.
And lost to a 0-0-0 opponent.
@@RBC0405 đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł true
@@erniececil6668 2 wins over Wilder
@@squid4451 oh course, a draw is lodged in there too đ
@squid4451
Parker's win over wilder dilutes that trilogy.
Wilders rĂ©sumĂ© đđđ
Fury & Wilder have been the dossers of the division.
4:00 Simon talks about the way Fury was looking at Wilder vs Usyk. Simon doesnât acknowledge that Usyk didnât care. Fury could have tried any kidology in the world and it wouldnât have worked against Usyk. Wilder couldnât box so Fury knew heâd beat him. But Fury couldnât have the same demeanour against Usyk because he knew Usyk was more of a match.
They need to accept a prime Usyk beats a prime Fury
Ran the whole fight against an undermotivated Klitschko then avoided the rematch / got caught taking steroids but media kept it quiet. Coerced a farmer into taking the blame, avoided real challenges, fought an overrated American who was avoiding Joshua then fought nothing but bums in two year intervals after going life and death with the same overrated American.
Avoided Aj for years while calling him out (chose to fight wilder for less money) went life and death with Walin, mocked Joshua for losing to two top ranked heavyweights claiming one was a glorified middleweight that he would never get backed up by only to be floored by a first fight novice and then absolutely wrecked by so called middleweight.
Fought only 2 top ten ranked opponents and was absolutely schooled by one of them.
Skilled boxer? Yes but defo overrated and a stain on the sport as far as character is concerned at least we know Usyk will actually defend his belts against whoever earns a shot
agree with everything you say, very well said. Simon Jordan and Ritchie Woodhall been pssin me off recently. Even Ade backtracked on Usyk win under pressure. If only Usyk spoke native English he would have had a lot more respect, the guy is such a role model its insane! most insipring H/W since Ali. Retire Usyk, you deserve it, nothing to prove and when Fury whines about no rematch, tell him to go visit Vladimir Klitchko and apologise.
Thank you for this comment @seanmcquinn9603, it made my day. Whenwill the general public actually wake up to see that this so called emperor has been naked for quite a while. A pitiful sight, nonetheless. These two "experts" seems to believe that this was nothing more than tiny bump on Fury's road to world domination. What it is, is a monumental loss that only manifests what these two novices refuse to realize: Fury is done for, and has been for a good while now. It's unbelievable that a single match in 2015 against a totally undermotivated Klitschko can elevate this fake to be "the greatest of his generation". His thick head saves him time after time from getting knocked flat out out, but it won't get him redeemed against either Usyk or AJ, who are two high-performing athletes. Get rid of the clown and his pitiful clan and make room for the serious true sportsmen of their generation. Usuk has read him inside and out now. A rematch would be a disaster for Fury.
One mandatory defence in four years!!
If Vlad acted like Fury, Fury wouldn't have been given the opportunity to fight him!!
He's been a disgraceful champion.. I hope he retires and takes his deluded fanbase with him!!
â@@bluemarvelousI don't want Him to retire without fighting Anthony Joshua
Sums Fury up perfectly.
1 Ref saved fury from ko & gave a long count
2 Furyâs corner was a shambles ie John Fury
3 Usyk won by at least 4 rounds.
i gave Usyk 6 clear rounds and Fury 4 and 2 i found to close to call so yeah i think it was about right apart from that one judge and there is always at least one
Minimum 8 4 to Usyk, said it all along, Usyk in a league of his own
Apart from when he was sprawled on the canvas for 5 mins vs dubois?
â@@Olympiamaniacshot to the nuts will do that
@@Olympiamaniac From an illegal blow
"If a bully fails to intimidate he becomes intimidated." - Teddy Atlas
Was looking forward to this show but was very disappointed. Spent the whole show talking about Fury while completing ignoring the brilliance, hunger and desire of Usyk. The man who actually won and made history!
Lol
What about usyk was just a better boxer with a solid chin
Tyson fury's resume is so over-rated by these "experts" đđ
1 top win and 1 overrated win. He has been a pro since 2008!!!!!!! đ
@@RBC0405 His best win was awful. he threw about 40 punches in the entire Wlad fight.
Itâs Doylums like Jordan that held up the idea that Fury may be an all time great. Delusional. Jordan likes to sound intellectual. Clueless. Bias that he will irrationally defend to the death. Bit like my teenage daughter.
What do these 'experts' 'think this week đ
Quite embarrassing how the topic of Furys "motivation" for the fight can be used an excuse when this was for undisputed.
Its not everyday excuses for Fury, just give his opponent full credit and accept your misperceptions of him being head and shoulders above the division.
Don't be afraid, I will not leave you alone
Oleksandr Usyk
This blown up middleweight really dog walked the giant in 9 out of 12 rounds
Simon sounds as rattled as Fury. Mr knowitallâs ego got one hellofabeating đ
He couldn't even make eye contact with Usyk let alone look at him with menace you fool
The reaction to Usyk accepting 70/30 said it all for me. He was defeated months ago.
SJ is an armchair psychologist who fell for all Fury's BS these last few years. Fell for the hype SJ! Anyone who really watches abit of boxing could tell it was gona be Fury's toughest night. But what does SJ do -makes it all about Fury underperforming
â@@RBC0405excellent point
They're so ignorant (especially Jordan) it's laughable.
Itâs not the mindset he was motivated. Usyk is just levels ahead in terms of skill. For all the things Firy does well he is terrible at trading in the pocket. Drops his hands far too much and has no torque to his hooks and uppercuts, throws them as arm punches
Fury gave wilder that look because he knew he could easily get the better of wilder and hurt him . Trait of a bully ( like his dad)
He was more respectful towards usyk because he knew he was up against it .
Uysk is amazing
What like the amazing Spiderman
Simon looks lost now that he can no longer claim that Fury is superior to Usyk in any aspect of boxing. Here is one aspect that you can now claim that Fury is superior in Simon: footwork.
That 25 second chicken dance that Fury pulled of in the 9th round was mesmerising, and I"ve never seen Usyk put on a performance like that. đ
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You assumed Fury and his average resume and record was something special. You were wrong, he never was đđ
The team out to rim fury again đ€Łđ€Șđ
You rim Usyk. Embarrassing
Fury had confidence when he fought Wilder because he knew Wilder only had one way he could win the fight. Usyk has a huge skill set and can win a fight any number of ways.
Not interested in a rematch. Let rhe belts be dispersed and give other fighter the chance to fight for titles. Usyk, Fury and AJ are at the end of their (,very successful) story arcs. Let the upcoming lads have a go and let's see who tbe new stars are
Iâm the former Manager and Trainer of Nigel Benn and l scored this fight closely on my own in the room and l could only give Fury Rounds 4,5,6,12. That it. Some Rounds were closer but as Spencer said Usyk was even nicking the close Rounds. This fight for me just exposed the WBC even more that yes they do fix fights if possible. Referee was put in there to assist Fury and the Judge who said Fury won was the WBC Judge. Thankfully the right man got the decision in the end.
Everyone who watches this show remembers when big ears little man Spencer said that usyk crumbles under pressure
Another episode of 'Two Casuals Talk Boxing'. Usyk made these guys look foolish, give him the respect he deserves.
Why they talking v like fury lost by choice instead of Usyk just being better?
cus SJ is deluded by being on a big platform, despite not having a clue
I wonder if big Johns new catchphrase will be "only one man alive"
The grief simom gave anyone saying tyson would lose was a joke.
Fury was an idiot to not respect the power of Usyk.
He was backing off for the majority of the fight....
Simon Jordan and Talksport still think it's Ukraine fault Fury lost đ”âđ«
âUsyk went on the front foot no one saw that comingâ????? Usyk has been saying for the past 3 months âTyson donât be afraid I WONT LEAVE YOU ALONEâ ffs
sooooo deluded aren't they
Fury been on the canvas seven times, Udysk never been down in over 300 fights..
Usyk, is such a humble guy. My old ass was rooting for him.
No. It is over. The fight for supremacy has ended. You can't keep rolling the dice until you get the result you want. AJ got defeated and failed to become undisputed and so did Fury. It is done. This generation has settled. Time for them all to retire and draw a line under it now.
The narrative when Fury does not perform is so bad. He just wasn't that good. He caught lightening in a bottle with the Wladimir win (which he took peds for) and fought Wilder who simply CANNOT BOX. Fury conned the public. I will always remember him as the man who uppercutted himself.
Usyk is a better boxer end of.
Lol
đđđ so many excuses for the big sausage đđđđ Saddddd
It was john fury shouting over suga and andy lee telling tyson he was winning and usyk had no answer for him, even after the knockdown telling him he just needs to stay out the way and he got it
TalkSPORT = Fury sympathisers
I said Usyk would go unbeaten after he smashed a bang in form Tony Bellew, the guy is the heavyweight version of Joe Calzaghe, great chin, great engine, skills and footwork...as Joe proved, it's an unbeatable combination.
Fury scoffed when he heard Wladimir Klitschko had given Usyk some pointers on how to beat him, yetâŠ.he himself was happy to take advice from his father - JF has a pathetic boxing record đoh the irony!
Haha always the corners fault, never what Usyk has done and did,
Spence and Simon eating humble pie đ
nah they're deflecting it all on to Fury and forgetting Usyk was in the fight
It was hard enough getting Fury to take the first fight, now with having to take the losers 35% split in the rematch, and after nearly getting KO'd in the first fight, when he trained so hard, I can't see Fury taking the rematch, he ducked the question in the post fight presser, he will either retire or take an easy fight, he won't risk it with Usyk again.
35% of ÂŁ100m+ is still serious money.
There's no split. Both sides agreed their purses separately. You ain't got a clue.
If fury kept his guard up and stopped the showboating it wouldve helped and i doubt he dont want another go
@@HisExcellencyB the first fight was 70/30 split to Fury, the rematch is 65 winner 35 loser, go do some research, the info is out there waiting for yoy
@@sunset4445 like I said. You haven't got a clue. Saudi coming in has eliminated the need to argue over "splits".
22:50 He wouldnt look at Usyk in the arrivals and that just confirmed to me he was done....he probably went on social media saw lots of people saying that and that made him angry hence his push/aggression in the official weigh in. Even in the weigh in he only looked at him for about 2 seconds before the push. Its not complicated at all , only to these 2 muppets.
Talksport should be happy fury lost, cos now they don't have go panda to him for fight access, cos he aint going to be fighting anymore,
Desperation to find a reason as to why Fury didnt win and to justify the predictions of a good big one always beats a good little one... the better man won, Usyk always finds a way to adapt. If the rematch happens no doubt the rhetoric will be Fury needs to walk him down and use his size. If it was that easy it would have already happened. Plus Fury now knows Usyk can hurt him.
A good big one loses to an exceptional small one
Lewis had an immediate rematch with Rahman but he didn't rematch McCall until over two years later.
Lennox lewis the last undisputed heavyweight champion...greatest boxer of his era without a doubt...losses dont define boxers its what you do after getting beat is what makes true champions and lennox was true champion...he lost 2x and he cameback both times and made mccall quit and then knocked hasim out ....i remember micheal grant was a up and coming heavyweight he was 21-0 and lennox just destroyed him...lennox true heavyweight legend