Seiko Vs. Heimdallr Monster, Which to get?
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2020
- In this video I compare the major differences between Seiko's monster and Heimdallr's Monster. Something left out here is the movement, which is a 7s26 in the seiko and an NH36a in the Heimdallr. I left this out as most of you will not be getting a 1st generation monster and newer versions have the same movement as this Heimdallr.
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Excellent video. Seen it late! I'm also a bit of a Seiko fanboy and unlike many people, I dive with my dive watches!! Yes, the crystal scratches on coral, sand and rock on the ocean bottom. The sapphire on the Heimdallr doesn't. Now for the good news!!....I also got the red Heimdallr Monster last March and was impressed. I took it down to 80 metres on a dive holiday in Fetihye, Turkey (great dive spot) a few weeks ago and the Heimdallr handled it with flying colours. I can't vouch for the 200m on the dial, I've never gone much over 100 metres but comparing the interior gasket fit on the Heimdallr to the Seiko's, I think it will likely handle the same depth, in fact around the crown, the Heimdallr gasket looks a bit more robust than on the Seiko, though that might be because the gap is a bit wider. Btw, dive extensions are useful I suppose, but most divers swap out the bracelet for a rubber strap anyway. So I would trust the Heimdallr as a dive computer backup......at least to 100m . Just subscribed btw!
Thank you for your comparison! I own a Seiko Monster black, first gen. I think it's a great watch for the money. After watching your video, I need an Heimdallr too. :-)
Excellent review - thanks for pointing out the fine details of each watch - things I would never have noticed myself. Subscribed and good luck with the channel!
Thanks man. Appreciate it 😁
Wow great attention to detail with the bezel matching up, share edges and pip sticking out. Just subscribed!
Great content Mike. I can see your channel doing very well, well put together and detailed. I have always wanted a monster but the prices they are now are way beyond my budget. These Chinese watches are an excellent alternative IMO. Look forward to your next video.
Great review Mike, especially since you're just starting out. Let's hope it's the start of something bigger!
We'll see I guess haha. Thanks for the well wishes friend. 😁
love your commentary. "It looks bad ass" so true and not pretentious like many watch channels.
I am year late watching this video. However, great video! I am just now getting interested in the Seiko Monster. The search is underway.
Nice job! This one has some great utility for folks that haven't yet purchased one, that is for sure. My pre-order orange Heimdallr is still in the mail...
Hey, though: turn up the lights! 😎
Seiko homage watches are definitely becoming more and more popular. I've been collecting homage watches for a few years and I'm always looking for a well spec'd watch. I love the design of the older Seiko Monsters but they are out of my price range. I was very happy to run across the Heimdallr monster. There aren't many video's on CZcams about it and yours is the only direct head to head comparison that I have run across. I should have my new "H-Monster" in a few weeks. I'll let you know how it plays out. Thanks for the information. Cheers! Oh yeah, I almost forgot , "SUBCRIBED"
Thanks for the view and sub man. Stay tuned next couple vids are gonna be fun/informative. Full Aragon brand analysis coming along with a "what the hell happened to seiko"
Bought the red 1 because of the watch itself. Pure no emotion purchase of a monstrous quality time piece with a low price tag. After watching videos of it can't wait to wear the watch. Thank you for the video! (I'm a Seiko Kinetic owner.)
You did a good job on the review thanks 💯👍🥃🥃
Love that red dial. Nice review.
Well done Mike. Nice video. Great to see all of those Monsters side by side. The Heimdallr bezel looked flat where the Seiko's looked slightly dished.. That's the impression I get.
I was going to ask if you'd do a review of the Aragons 😁. I was surprised at that price. Looks like a great watch for the money.
Onwards and upwards.. good luck with the videos. Great quality I'm sure will appreciated widely 👍
The scallop on the HEIMDALLR bezel is actually identical to the one on the Seiko. Thanks for checking out the vid! Definitely stick around for the Aragon Video, I'll try to make it as informative as possible.
@@metalmike105 Ah interesting - I like the look of the Seiko bezel so that's good news! Can't wait for more videos :D
Thanks for the review. I just ordered one.
The red Heimdallr dial is fabulous.
Really appreciate the side by side comparison. I was actually comparing the Baby Monster to the Sharkey and for me in the UK that's a difference of £100. The bonus for me is that the Heimdallr looks virtually identical to the Seiko, plus they are available in different colours. Issue now is what colour to choose.
Bought the red just now... (Sighs in remorse)
@@lelok0958 when I tried they were out of stock (phew)...so bought a Baby Monster instead (shakes head), knowing full well that I'll also purchase the red when in stock! lol
Wonderful review/comparison. I've got the first gen. Monster (in black) and I just purchased the blue Heimdallr. I absolutely agree... The Seiko is ISO certified, but as you say, if you are not a diver, the Heimdallr is a very nice choice. I especially love the sapphire crystal and I wonder if I could buy one for my original Monster... are they the same exact size ? Will have to check that when Heimdallr arrives....If so I could try to find one....That would be a nice upgrade to my 9 years old Seiko....
Is it only me or Chinese have already surpassed Japanese in low cost watches ? I remember 10 years ago, if you asked advice for a watch not expensive, but very good value....Seiko Citizen and Orient was the only answer in forum etc. Now....Heimdallr, San Martin...Steeldive...
Oh....I just wonder if they really are waterproof....not to 200m....I don't dive....so no way to make use of it....but....are they really safe for the beach, swimming pool etc. ? And I really mean swimming....not just putting it underwater....but moving your arms fast inside/outside the water, putting some pressure on the watch at different angles.
By the way....I suscribed , keep up the good fun / job ! (I also collect many many watches....from cheap to super expensive, the last ones as a saving form)
I saw your Seiko Arnie, I just purchased one, but haven’t received it yet. I would love to see you review of it.
Got my red Heimdallr a couple of days ago... been wearing it ever since. It's an amazing watch, very, very happy with it. For the price, this beats Seiko hands down.
Yes, sometimes the Heimdallr's bite, but they look better on those corners. Never bad enough to make you bleed but they are sharp. I still prefer my Seikos but Heimdallr has done a fantastic job on these. I gave a black Heimdallr monster to a coworker today and now I need to grab another one.
My first gen Orange Monster has never had its seals replaced, I would not dive with it because I don't want it ruined, I will pick up a Heimdallr, it looks really nice.
Nice video dude, based on your review I am still not going to get one of these Heimdallr's, just not for me and don't think it would sit nice in my monster collection, maybe I am too die hard lol cheers again
I appreciate you checking the vid out, and yeah in the end if you have a full collection of seiko monsters i would say at that point you gain nothing by getting these Heimdallrs. The only thing to remember is that there's an entire group of folks that have long since missed out on the affordable Seiko period. Nowadays seiko's are vastly more expensive and even their simple models are out of a lot of people's price ranges. These watches are an incredible alternative to achieve the style and functionality without the cost. I do intend on making a seiko oriented video at some point as well. The plan is to explore how they've changed over the last 10 years or so. Should be an interesting video. Subscribe if you wanna hear my view on them ☺️.
@@metalmike105 good point again. Touche
I feel pretty good about ordering the heimdallr now. Its like one of those rolex or patek knock offs that's so good you start to question if buying the genuine article is worth it.
I'd argue it's definitely better than the original in damn near every way, except execution of lume pip, and it's lack of an iso rating.
The Heimy mk1 Skx had that same pip , rectified to a much cooler looking 1-2mm pip on the v2 .I'm surprised they made that mistake again also on the site it says its a steeldive strap ? Mine arrives soon and I'm still excited !
You can really easily polish the scratch out with polywatch glass polish and a buff wheel in a drill or Dremel. I have done it and only takes a few minutes.
Right... Not really the point tho, seiko needs to get their act together. The new monsters are still rocking hardlex crystals in a world of sapphire. For $350 they need to do better.
Fantastic! Except your video is going to cost me $179 as now I gotta go buy one. 😟. Damn it!
Video looks way better now in landscape! You may want to consider more light, but other than that looks/sounds fine.
Yep, more light is for sure a necessity. I was thinking I could fix that in editing, but nope haha. Appreciate the view and the feedback ☺️
You can tell it's not a real Seiko when everything aligns.
You tried to be clever. And failed.
Is heimdallr monster comfortable to wear all the time? I mean I have a Victorinox inox with stainless steel bracelet but it's a bit heavy to me.
Aragon used to be Android. I have one with T100 tritium tubes! Great watch, just a little too big for my taste so I rarely wear it. If they would do watches in 40mm, then that would be the shiznick!
I actually have a vid on them... They came out with a 42mm recently. Huge bang for buck.
great review, be well!
Half my collection are Seiko's but they are slacking off. So I have a bunch of Heimdallr's as well. The red one is still on it's way. Truth be told I have mixed experiences with them. I bought a bronze Tuna from them (my first Heimdallr) it broke within 24hrs (stuck hour hand). They exchanged it but that meant I paid twice for shipping and taxes. Then I ordered a 6105 (Willard) which was/is fine except there is no way I can get the metal band back on there (way to tight) so I'm forced to wear it on a rubber waffle. Still, after that I ordered a SBDX001 with the Seagull movement. That was great until the hour hand came loose and flopped around. So yet again I have to have it repaired (again shipping/tax). While my SBDX001 was still working, I ordered a red monster from Heimdallr ($149 early bird). I hope it does not fail me as well. Heimdallr posted on Facebook they are literally only 4(!) people. Let that sink in for a minute.
So yeah, I love their designs and all that but their QC and service is a bit iffy!
Ps: I also ordered a last gen Monster this week for €350. Its the limited black Monster, SRPD29 should arrive next week (now I just need to figure out how to get that square cyclops of it).
Good points. But it’s easy to improve, harder to invent. But you have a lot of originals so you seem to know that also
Seems every brand has own Skmei ;D
"I own a shitload of them" Subscribed! :-D
I have a seiko gen 1 with a badly scratch case, is it possible to swap the case to heimdallr case. and does the movt and dial fit?
They should fit? But don't quote me on that... I think you would probably be better off refinishing the case
I love that when a seiko is homaged, it’s way better than the seiko. I still love seiko but hey, China is killin it!
I just ordered the red one from AliExpress, 144 dollars with a 6 dollar coupon.
they must have changed the lume pip, my red shark has a lume pip that looks the same as the one on the seiko
Hello, my Monster has just arrived and im blown away by the quality you get for that price (payed 120$). BUT I realized that the inner chapter ring is misalined by a fraction of a milimeter but its pretty obvious on this dial/chapterring combination. I was wondering how the chapter ring is fixed into position. Is it possible to just open up the case and put in a the right position ? Thanks for your help in advance
Hey there, thanks for watching... Unfortunately I'm not quite sure? I want to say yes it's probably as easy as you say, bit I have not had to personally do it. For what it's worth even my seiko orange monster is very slightly misaligned. It's something I think I learned to ignore just because seikos are so commonly misaligned. I got luck with my heimdallr though as there is no misalignment.
@@metalmike105 I feel like for me its hard to ignore. On the on side theres a gap between the chapterring and the indice and on the other side the chapter ring is covering the indice a bit :(
@@henrik2935 oh that's more than slight... You should message them on Facebook and include a picture. See what they say. Hurry up though because I think chinese new year is starting very soon
How do you find those Aragon watches? They look well built and chunky.
They are. I have a full aragon vid coming in a couple more days. Sub so you get notified when it goes up. I'm shooting for the moon on it so it should answer any questions you have about the brand.
@@metalmike105 Ok mate thanks! I've subbed so I keep my eye out! I'm waiting on my Skinnaker Fluess to turn up on Monday so I'm kinda pumped...
@@NathanChisholm041 Nice! Even in the horror that has been 2020, always nice to get pumped about a new piece. I have the new San Martin SD homage on the way, which I'll be doing a full review on as well.
@@metalmike105 I've got one SM its the Sinn homage with a PT-5000 in it and i get around +1.5 for the last 12 months. They make great watches. Heres mine www.aliexpress.com/item/33035607397.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1f334c4dXx7UmD
@@NathanChisholm041 nice! makes me even more pumped to get mine.
What language is the day of the week in?
That not lined up of everything is a real Seiko.
Thanks to your first vid, I went ahead and ordered 2. Did the Seiko monster parts fit/interchangeable with the Heimdallr monster?
I can only say the bracelet parts are compatible... I have not dismantled the rest of the watch so unfortunately I wouldn't know...
@@metalmike105 Thanks, I was thinking about using a Seiko monster oem Bracelet with the Heimdallr milled clasp.
@@xxraverxxonxtacy Just remember what I said about there being some sharp points on that milled clasp. If you like I can check tonight to see if what you're saying specifically is possible...
@@metalmike105 I will inspect the sharp edges but hopefully they fixed them in QC, was the bracelet hard to adjust links cuz from pictures I've seen there are no arrows embossed underside of the links which way to push pin and collar?
@@xxraverxxonxtacy well they are pin and collar. So because of that the direction is irrelevant. You can push them out either side. They aren't hard to adjust, just different.
The orange monster(2010) i brought my wife to a shop and told her i wanted it .And we bought him. He started my watch collect hobby. Will pass to kids next time. The other fantastic asian watches are GREAT fun. For few years of ownership(personal satisfaction).. why not! We need Encourage and keep World Peace. Else all may be lost.
Heimdallr every time....not being a diver, I would prefer it over the Seiko version.
Isn't it the speciality of seiko, that no two watches are the same? ^^
pls make a review on ur watchboxes
You got it man. I'll link them for you and everything. If you sub and hit the bell you'll see it the second it goes live. 😁
please make your videos in a well lit room, or even some sun. its so dark in there. are you like inside a cave?
Seiko, Hardlex, hollow end links, pressed clasp, no hacking and hand winding. Heimdallr, solid end links, milled clasp, sapphire, NH35 movement. Heimdallr has better bezel action. Heimdallr fraction of Seiko price.
All 100% true. But in seiko's favor dont forget about market value, name recognition, and ISO rating. Some people care about those things. I for one don't. But you have to factor it in.
@@metalmike105 you are right about brand recognition and residual value. An ISO rating is only certification of the rating, but that doesn't mean an uncertified watch won't match up. Anyway, who's going diving with either anyway. Thanks for the review
99.9999% of the people that are buying these watches are going in no more than the deep end of an inground pool
Heimdallr makes great watches for the price. Their homage skx is better than the original to.
I like the other face that has pointy looking teeth the whole way round the face lol looks more of a monster
2 types of watch fan:
1 - does not care of name & heritage, more of a value for the price and does the job done guy,
2 - brand patriots, mocks every homages..
3 - buys what he likes.
heimdallr masters every seiko. unless you want mineral glass and a stamped clasp. heimdallr even has better lume & price the heimdallr monster ALSO comes with a spring bar tool, link removal tool AND a 20mm nato strap!!!!!
The Chinese Homage brands have definitely outdone Seiko ... but Seiko is still the Man on the hill despite all the short comings,QC issues and price Hikes. fanatics like me will still want all their watches lol
I mean, there's a couple models that seiko makes that I will always be drawn to. But besides those, the honeymoon is over for me. And if I'm being honest if the homage companies made those models I wouldn't buy those from seiko either.
Seiko
Turn on some lights dude
ISO counts for fuck all, Rolex don't even bother with it!
Your iphone will macro focus, stills and video
Had an older phone that didn't have macro. I don't use iPhones. Never will. I did however just get a new phone that does all that stuff.
For sure this video is not good for watch snob. But what the heck, this watch is half way seiko, and has better specs than seiko.
Sadly I have the Heimdallr and it is JUNK; mine loses 10-15 mins a day plus the day/date don’t turn properly. Warranty won’t respond to me. BEWARE friends.
I can't speak to the warranty. But if it's losing that much time it may be magnetized... The biggest question I would have is, where do you buy it?
@@metalmike105 directly from the Heimdallr website
@@PUNISHER709 Wow. At heimdallrwatch.com? I'm kinda surprised their support has been so lackluster. If I were you I would probably hit them on their Facebook page.