I’m sure at some point in the near future, his model will randomly show up in the most obscure of places and the Star Tugs Trust will get ahold of him.
Someone definitely has him, like you said if all the Tugs were stored in a specific room why on earth would one of the main characters just be thrown out with the rest of the models. I don't think David had Top Hat tbh, in his emails with some members of SiF he expressed wanting the rights to obtaining the series and had no idea what happened to the models. HOWEVER, we all know those SiF dudes lie about shit all the time. Maybe he did actually know where the models were, but just kept them there because he had nowhere else to store them. Except for probably his favourite character. I definitely think Top Hat is still out there, it makes too little sense for him not to be.
top hat last appearance was on Mitton's real tug boat for a small tugs festival or something and nearing the end of the celebration most of the characters had their shock expression put on before going to storage and that was top hats and grampus last known appearance
not saying this is correct but i found a HUGE chunk of info that probaly gives us the official answer to where Top Hat and Grampus are, heres the info: A great majority of essential assets from TUGS had been kept by co-creator Robert D. Cardona in his storage unit at Shepperton Studios since the 1990s. This included the models, the master reels and assumingly much more. In 2010, Robert's storage unit was illegally emptied by the studio's higher ups, with everything ending up in a skip. A passing builder discovered the assets in the skip and put as many as the models as he could into his van. The models were severely damaged. Later on, the builder learned of a model-boat enthusiast on a TV advert named Richard and gave the models to him. Richard repaired the damages on the models until he sold them.
Well if you don't know there was a thing called Tugs Day and Ten cents Zorran Top hat and Sunshine were displayed on a Table on a Harbour with real Tugs and they are wearing they shock faces they were afraid of put back to storage so Top hat is still with the Person who gave the Models to the Star Tugs Trust. But it's just a theory
There is a theory I've seen not mentioned in this video that Top Hat's hull might've been used for Bulstrode in T&F... Who knows what happened to his super-structure though...
Well 1 I have a theory about gandpus that his model might have been brought out of storage to help show the Thomas and the magical railroad crew what the idea for mixing Thomas and tugs charters and because after the movie the film right were sold to hit unexpectedly do to bankruptcy they might have not had time to get gandpus back with the rest of the tugs. So he could be at hit.also Izzy gomaze was used in Thomas and friends and is also in there storage along with Vienna, big micky and same could be possible for Top hat.
It's possible that Top Hat might be in Mitton's house or in the rescuer's possession. However according to EN2's Tugs Iceberg video Top Hat was last seen at a boat event (referred to as Tugs Day) along with Ten Cents, Big Mac, Sunshine and Zorran. So maybe after the event, David Mitton took Top Hat home with him.
I don't like Top Hat that much, but for the sake of preservation we need to find his model (Grampus too). Most likely theory is that he was lost in Japan or taken by someone at clearwarer studios.
Some guy found a listing for Top Hat today and we decided on how we should handle it. Somehow, he's in the Netherlands. The seller said he had a "funny face" which matched the shocked face that went missing.
I’m not being funny but if Top Hat was listed on eBay, the community would explode & it’d spark a lot more than just a random comment on my video. I’m not convinced, mate
my theory is the Mitton estate... here's a little tidbit I'm gonna share, one of my mentors from Uni (a man named Greg Boulton, who was an Aardman model maker on "Sledgehammer" and "Creature Comforts") got to meet the man the myth the legend, the one and only Ray Harryhausen once... and Harryhausen had a LOT of the stuff he worked on from his film career dotted around the house (fun anecdote, Harryhausen's wife said to Greg "I'm glad YOU like them you can't go anywhere in this house without seeing a dinosaur..." 😆) So if Top Hat is anywhere it'll be in care of the Mitton estate... I also know Nick Park owns a paddling pool sized Dog Bowl from a Purina dog food advert he himself was a part of at Aardman... so it's not uncommon for directors and indeed animators to take home a "trophy" from something they worked on, shall we say...
Even though the whereabouts of Top Hat remain unknown to this day, I’d say he’s either at the Mitton’s house or is in possession of the original tug’s rescuer. Or who knows, maybe he’s being kept by another Tugs enthusiast that has a connection with the crew behind that show. I really hope someday Top Hat shows up somewhere and that he’s alright and hasn’t been thrown out. He’s one of the best characters though, so I doubt he’s been in the garbage for all these years. Where are you, Top Hat?…
i say (sadly) that he was thrown out and gutted buy scavingers (sorry for typo) and destroyed by a rubbish lorry or eaten by animals. but i hope he is somewhere safe
I think the person who found the Tugs decided to keep Top Hat. Maybe they were on the production team and Top Hat was their favorite character or something. I think it's that one because if I was that person I would've kept Hercules and/or Big Mac because those 2 are my favorite characters
The Japan one does not make sense, the toys were based on their measurement photos (see how ten cents and sunshine have the same faces), we know all the tugs had measurement photos so it’s likely tophat whas just wearing his shocked face in those photos (which explains why he has it on more than one toy)
well a few months ago i saw a tweet saying that top hat and grampus' model was stored by the star tugs trust but for some reason they didn't wanna show it to the public
That’s absolutely definitely false. If the trust had Top Hat & Grampus, we’d know about it by now. If we got the US dub leaked & not any images of them two, then that’s a sign they don’t have them. Also if the trust DID have them, they’d just show them. I know the trust are sometimes crooked when it comes to disclosure but I highly doubt they’d go as far as gatekeeping Top Hat & Grampus. It’s been 10 years since the props were first saved & I’m pretty sure in that time, something official would’ve leaked by now.
history fact on tug day ten cents sun shine and zorarn and top hat were on display with there shocked faces (the joke was that they were scared to go back into storage) this was the last time that the public saw top hat so when tug day ended they most lickey went back into storage or back to David mitten house
If David Would have kept tophats model before he died in 2008 he would’ve asked someone to look after him like you said but as the other person was given the rest of the models and faces the Star tugs trust In 2012 then he must have a hunch like the rest of The CZcamsrs and myself must known that the models are kept in a glass case who people wants to come and see them but if a person ask if they would like to touch the models they would say no you can’t touch them you could have a look at them not touch them and all they did was let some of the people get a closer look and ruining some of the models if tophats model can be trusted to them without letting people touch it and kept behind a glass case then every should be alright if they make These new rules for the trust to have in the near future hopefully.🤔
I'm in Japan it's bright here there are a lot of people and I don't understand a thing they are saying, I was just supposed to be made into toys now I'm lost in Japan :(
Well the reason his shocked face is missing is cause he was put on display during the weekend of tugs day and a couple hours before the event ended all 4 characters there which also happen to be the same 4 made into takara toys were given their scared faces to show they were scared to go back in storage thats y when tencents sunshine and zorran were found they were all wearing their scared face mask we don't have dates but I would then assume they were sent to Japan for the toys cause of the evidence u present and the fact its the same 4 characters I don't however believe that tophat got lost on the way back I think either someone at sif or or the trust have him secretly both r full of scumbags anyway so its not that far of a stretch
here is my theory: ya know have you looked at bull strobe he is about as long as top hat also if you look at his under model you'll see the little thing sticking out of the bottom like the other tugs models this is just a theory of top hat being used in Thomas.
I Think I Found The Answer. As Seen On This Video Here: czcams.com/video/_Zsyag9ZHHk/video.html (Go To 15:18) It Says The TUGS Characters Were Planned To Be In TATMR And The Models That Got Shipped Didn’t Make It. This Could Mean Top Hat And Grampus Were Planned To Appear But Got Forgotten Or Lost.
@@noloplayz9636 here is my side of the story of top hat in Japan 1 after they took the promo Image of him they must’ve thrown him in the trash or They put it on set up and they would never even return it 2 granpus is not a made into a Takara model so that means that he could be somewhere me: 🤯
"Oh dear, where am I?" -Top Hat currently.
Wherever top hat is, all I hope is that he is in a better place than the trust
That Billy shoepack model looks so broken it’s such a shame to see that Billy is such an underrated character
At least he’s all fixed now
well he was fixed after he was too careless with the tnt
It’s like trying to find Toby when he went missing from Drayton manner
Wherever He Is. I Hope He’s Still Saying “Oh, Well Hello”.
I’m sure at some point in the near future, his model will randomly show up in the most obscure of places and the Star Tugs Trust will get ahold of him.
I hope it’s not the trust considering how they treat the other models
At least we’d know where he is if he was with the other tugs
Top Hat Needs To Reunite With The Rest Of The Star Fleet.
I half agree but also feel that he’s safe from their shit
Let’s Hope That He’s Safe With The Stolen Toby, Both Are Not In Harms Way Of Drayton Manor And The Star Tugs Trust.
Someone definitely has him, like you said if all the Tugs were stored in a specific room why on earth would one of the main characters just be thrown out with the rest of the models.
I don't think David had Top Hat tbh, in his emails with some members of SiF he expressed wanting the rights to obtaining the series and had no idea what happened to the models. HOWEVER, we all know those SiF dudes lie about shit all the time. Maybe he did actually know where the models were, but just kept them there because he had nowhere else to store them. Except for probably his favourite character.
I definitely think Top Hat is still out there, it makes too little sense for him not to be.
top hat last appearance was on Mitton's real tug boat for a small tugs festival or something and nearing the end of the celebration most of the characters had their shock expression put on before going to storage and that was top hats and grampus last known appearance
Might have been stolen
Didn't you know he finally became big enough to become a liner
I have a theory, what if top hat is in david mittons attic because Top Hat was his favourite tug
That has to it
I believe that Top Hat (along with Grampus, and the others) is in storage, or at the Mitton residence.
But where is the Mitton residence
@@JosephRailwayStudios2000 good question
2:26 master of the lemons said that top hat might be bulstrode
Pretty sure he said the opposite
Broken, crushed, lost forever.
Yeah that's what likely happened
I'm sure at David Mitton's house and i felt a little sure about completely thrown in to the trash.
my idea is that Top hat's model might have been rebuilt so it could be used in Thomas and friends
Probably either 1 or 3 but who knows really, hopefully one day Tophat will be found as well as Grampus.
not saying this is correct but i found a HUGE chunk of info that probaly gives us the official answer to where Top Hat and Grampus are, heres the info: A great majority of essential assets from TUGS had been kept by co-creator Robert D. Cardona in his storage unit at Shepperton Studios since the 1990s. This included the models, the master reels and assumingly much more. In 2010, Robert's storage unit was illegally emptied by the studio's higher ups, with everything ending up in a skip. A passing builder discovered the assets in the skip and put as many as the models as he could into his van. The models were severely damaged. Later on, the builder learned of a model-boat enthusiast on a TV advert named Richard and gave the models to him. Richard repaired the damages on the models until he sold them.
Well if you don't know there was a thing called Tugs Day and Ten cents Zorran Top hat and Sunshine were displayed on a Table on a Harbour with real Tugs and they are wearing they shock faces they were afraid of put back to storage so Top hat is still with the Person who gave the Models to the Star Tugs Trust. But it's just a theory
So in other words…Top Hat is probably the luckiest, out of all the tugs
@@AJSSPACEPLACE could be I but maybe he was stolen that day but his model was in storage so the person kept top hat the one who sold the models
There is a theory I've seen not mentioned in this video that Top Hat's hull might've been used for Bulstrode in T&F... Who knows what happened to his super-structure though...
It wasn’t used for bulstrode
I really hope that isn't the case.
It isn’t
Well 1 I have a theory about gandpus that his model might have been brought out of storage to help show the Thomas and the magical railroad crew what the idea for mixing Thomas and tugs charters and because after the movie the film right were sold to hit unexpectedly do to bankruptcy they might have not had time to get gandpus back with the rest of the tugs. So he could be at hit.also Izzy gomaze was used in Thomas and friends and is also in there storage along with Vienna, big micky and same could be possible for Top hat.
I think that TopHats prop what reused for that Tugboat we mostly saw throughout the Hit Era
If you mean Lucinda, you’re wrong. She’s 5 times the width & length of Top Hat & different shape overall
Theory 1 and 3 are the ones that make more sence to me
Let’s Hope He Gets Found In The Future, Top Hat Is My Favorite TUGS Character Next To Boomer
The way to think about any lost media or missing tv show props in this case is to say
Never say never
It's possible that Top Hat might be in Mitton's house or in the rescuer's possession. However according to EN2's Tugs Iceberg video Top Hat was last seen at a boat event (referred to as Tugs Day) along with Ten Cents, Big Mac, Sunshine and Zorran. So maybe after the event, David Mitton took Top Hat home with him.
It’s possible that he stayed in the hands of the Mitton family so all we need to do is ask David Mitton’s Family about
I like to believe he’s still at the Mitton estate. But I know he’s still out there somewhere
I don't like Top Hat that much, but for the sake of preservation we need to find his model (Grampus too). Most likely theory is that he was lost in Japan or taken by someone at clearwarer studios.
What's the song that plays for the second half of the video? It's very catchy.
Top Hat must be found one day!!!
I’d say lost in Japan is what happened to top hat
My question is if people think top hat is at the Mitton estate why haven’t we looked for it?
Breaking & entering, dumbass
I think he is at David Mitton is house or top hat was burried with David Mitton
I imagine David Mitton in he's backyard at night, franticly digging the hole while he's wife looks at him from a window in confusion.
Some guy found a listing for Top Hat today and we decided on how we should handle it.
Somehow, he's in the Netherlands.
The seller said he had a "funny face" which matched the shocked face that went missing.
Any proof?
@@ScrapyardStudios We're trying to keep it low so once we get image confirmations we can show.
Sorry, pal. You’re fooling no one
@@ScrapyardStudios honestly, if you don't believe me, that's fine.
It's seems way to suspicious but we're trying to get more info.
I’m not being funny but if Top Hat was listed on eBay, the community would explode & it’d spark a lot more than just a random comment on my video. I’m not convinced, mate
I think the rescuer has Top Hat and perhaps Grampus as well.
I Feel Bad for Top Hat and Grampus
Imagen someone Breaks into mittons house and sees Top Hat AND the missing coach
Knowing Mitton, any intruder would explode when breaking in his house
@@ScrapyardStudios wym? And what... if this is true then im f***ed rn!
And Grampus The Sub
my theory is the Mitton estate... here's a little tidbit I'm gonna share, one of my mentors from Uni (a man named Greg Boulton, who was an Aardman model maker on "Sledgehammer" and "Creature Comforts") got to meet the man the myth the legend, the one and only Ray Harryhausen once... and Harryhausen had a LOT of the stuff he worked on from his film career dotted around the house (fun anecdote, Harryhausen's wife said to Greg "I'm glad YOU like them you can't go anywhere in this house without seeing a dinosaur..." 😆) So if Top Hat is anywhere it'll be in care of the Mitton estate...
I also know Nick Park owns a paddling pool sized Dog Bowl from a Purina dog food advert he himself was a part of at Aardman... so it's not uncommon for directors and indeed animators to take home a "trophy" from something they worked on, shall we say...
You’ll never know it might be a possibility
I believe that someone kept him in their home.
1:31 who heard top hat say "OOOOOOO I SAY HELLO"?
I believe he's just, sat in an old shed, just, waiting, till the earth explodes-
But that's just a theory...a TUGS theory!
Even though the whereabouts of Top Hat remain unknown to this day, I’d say he’s either at the Mitton’s house or is in possession of the original tug’s rescuer. Or who knows, maybe he’s being kept by another Tugs enthusiast that has a connection with the crew behind that show. I really hope someday Top Hat shows up somewhere and that he’s alright and hasn’t been thrown out. He’s one of the best characters though, so I doubt he’s been in the garbage for all these years. Where are you, Top Hat?…
Apparently we’ve put things all over Facebook and Twitter so hopefully someone in the world has him
I found him 2 years ago
@@Canadiansteamer43 Really
Someone has it. There's no way that so many others would be saved and Top Hat thrown in the garbage.
i say (sadly) that he was thrown out and gutted buy scavingers (sorry for typo) and destroyed by a rubbish lorry or eaten by animals. but i hope he is somewhere safe
I think the person who found the Tugs decided to keep Top Hat. Maybe they were on the production team and Top Hat was their favorite character or something. I think it's that one because if I was that person I would've kept Hercules and/or Big Mac because those 2 are my favorite characters
The Japan one does not make sense, the toys were based on their measurement photos (see how ten cents and sunshine have the same faces), we know all the tugs had measurement photos so it’s likely tophat whas just wearing his shocked face in those photos (which explains why he has it on more than one toy)
well a few months ago i saw a tweet saying that top hat and grampus' model was stored by the star tugs trust but for some reason they didn't wanna show it to the public
That’s absolutely definitely false. If the trust had Top Hat & Grampus, we’d know about it by now. If we got the US dub leaked & not any images of them two, then that’s a sign they don’t have them. Also if the trust DID have them, they’d just show them. I know the trust are sometimes crooked when it comes to disclosure but I highly doubt they’d go as far as gatekeeping Top Hat & Grampus. It’s been 10 years since the props were first saved & I’m pretty sure in that time, something official would’ve leaked by now.
history fact
on tug day ten cents sun shine and zorarn and top hat were on display with there shocked faces
(the joke was that they were scared to go back into storage)
this was the last time that the public saw top hat
so when tug day ended they most lickey went back into storage or back to David mitten house
Yeah I saw that video last night & it was amazing
1:31 skip-hat
My theory is David Mittons family kept him like for example Christopher awdry has Wilbert awdrys Gordon model
Its not confirmed where Gordon’s model is
I live near Butterly
If David Would have kept tophats model before he died in 2008 he would’ve asked someone to look after him like you said but as the other person was given the rest of the models and faces the Star tugs trust In 2012 then he must have a hunch like the rest of The CZcamsrs and myself must known that the models are kept in a glass case who people wants to come and see them but if a person ask if they would like to touch the models they would say no you can’t touch them you could have a look at them not touch them and all they did was let some of the people get a closer look and ruining some of the models if tophats model can be trusted to them without letting people touch it and kept behind a glass case then every should be alright if they make These new rules for the trust to have in the near future hopefully.🤔
I hope we find top hat in the near future
where did you get these images? 0:45, i never see them in the wikia ( i mean the images of lillie lightship and burke and blair)
Google I think
Cool
I'm in Japan it's bright here there are a lot of people and I don't understand a thing they are saying, I was just supposed to be made into toys now I'm lost in Japan :(
I think Britt Alcorft has Top Hat and Grumpus somewhere
Epic
david mittons house for sure!
Well the reason his shocked face is missing is cause he was put on display during the weekend of tugs day and a couple hours before the event ended all 4 characters there which also happen to be the same 4 made into takara toys were given their scared faces to show they were scared to go back in storage thats y when tencents sunshine and zorran were found they were all wearing their scared face mask we don't have dates but I would then assume they were sent to Japan for the toys cause of the evidence u present and the fact its the same 4 characters I don't however believe that tophat got lost on the way back I think either someone at sif or or the trust have him secretly both r full of scumbags anyway so its not that far of a stretch
I love your videos
Then what the rest of the prop they won’t throw it away
I'm not sure, but maybe Japan is most likely!?
What is the name of the song in this video.
Here’s both
soundcloud.app.goo.gl/stfnpeRD7oP31TpY7
soundcloud.app.goo.gl/keo6yeuycU7xNE2Y6
He could of been robbed
Or worse, he got mugged for his vanish & monocle
Theory 1 and 3
#THEORY 3
i think he is lost in japan
here is my theory: ya know have you looked at bull strobe he is about as long as top hat also if you look at his under model you'll see the little thing sticking out of the bottom like the other tugs models this is just a theory of top hat being used in Thomas.
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I Think I Found The Answer. As Seen On This Video Here: czcams.com/video/_Zsyag9ZHHk/video.html (Go To 15:18) It Says The TUGS Characters Were Planned To Be In TATMR And The Models That Got Shipped Didn’t Make It. This Could Mean Top Hat And Grampus Were Planned To Appear But Got Forgotten Or Lost.
Probably lost in Japan
The tugs weren’t sent to Japan for the takara toys
The key word in this video is Theories. Not necessarily fact
@@ScrapyardStudios oh sorry
Oh don’t feel bad
I think top hat is Lost in Japan
Same
@@noloplayz9636 here is my side of the story of top hat in Japan 1 after they took the promo Image of him they must’ve thrown him in the trash or They put it on set up and they would never even return it 2 granpus is not a made into a Takara model so that means that he could be somewhere me: 🤯
To be honest, I kinda disagree with the Japanese theory
I am pretty sure the photos used on the Takara boxes were of promotional images taken on the TUGS sets in the UK
No he is bullstrode
Allegedly
top hat no
:0 wow