Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN MAVERICK Final Dogfight and Ending Scenes + Closing Thoughts (Pt8/8)
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- Gonky and Mover React to the final dogfight in TOPGUN MAVERICK, ending scene, and give their final thoughts on the movie. Mover Ruins Movies Part 8 of 8 • Save 20% off the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 with Promo Code CWL-TFH4-20 by following this link: bit.ly/tmpromocwl
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First time? This is PART 8 of 8. Watch the full playlist here: czcams.com/video/THeoKjVlFSw/video.html Before you get triggered and say iT'S JuSt a MoViE or wHy dO yOu hAtE it.... relax, we know. this is Mover RUINS Movies. It's a fun breakdown/commentary/analysis with sarcasm, humor, and real world stories. We both loved the movie.
C.W. Lemoine tom Cruise actually owns The P-51
Guys, i was very excited when i watch that movie, but now looking at every detail what you spoke about, i see the difference. Keep posting videos like this one's. Thanks for everything and have a blue sky!!
Go to 7:46 as Hungman lands. You were correct he did get the Gen 5 with a cheek AMRAM. At that timestamp you can see he only has 1 cheek AMRAM.
So yeah.....store rooms are full just load all the extra shit on the alert 2....why not?
Have you guys seen the old black n white video i think of ww2 or Korea of the B17 flyby. They did it twice because they were so low, they were below the flight deck that no one even seen them in time to film it, so they did a 2nd pass and told them where to look. It's crazy seeing those flying fortresses that fast and that low below the carriers deck
I said this to someone else; The reason Top Gun used F-18's is because there were no 2 Seater F-35's for the Actors to Fly in, as Tom Cruise wanted; So my question is; how the whole film have played out with F-35's. In all likelihood they wouldn't have been shot down; so how would the Final Fight have gone in F-35's had the Su-57's been nearer?
Hangman was the Ace Combat protagonist, equipped with a million rockets and bombs to basically fight the whole war by himself.
Yo buddy, still alive?
@@ben2741 NO [=>
Thankfully it didn't take 20 rocket hits to make the 5th gen jet fly away.
Should've bombed it from above, that would be super cool, a gbu kill on a 5th gen!
Beat me to it. Lol!
Hangman was late to the party because he ran the battery down while listening in on comms and needed a jumpstart.
lol
Nice 😂lol
And with that load-out they had to wait for The Hulk to arrive to throw him off the carrier.
Lmao😂
😂
"If everyone else fails, we'll just send Hangman to do the whole mission himself."
he's veryyyyyy good.
@@rotyler2177 He better be, that fully-loaded Hornet is going to fly like a bus in those narrow canyons
Hangman is the Ace Combat protagonist.
we'll even give him that prototype tech that lets you reaload your weapons mid-air
Iron eagle style 👍
Best Mover line in this vid (5:06): “What was he the spare to, the whole war?!” Awesome.
That was damn funny.
Tbf it fits Hangman’s ego. Best at everything.
Slow down pal, this isn't ace combat
Where did the missile he took out the enemy with come from? He was still fully loaded at the end wasn't he?
I laughed so hard at that. Had to pause the video 😂😂
Great to see Val Kilmer do his cameo appearance when he is in bad health. The scenes with Tom and Val in the movie was just what was needed and was the embrace of brothers.
i guess tom went out of his way to ensure val got his part in the movie to help him and his family financially threw his struggles with health apparently he had gotten screwed over and lost a lotta money so tom stepped in and made sure he had something
@@420metalguy Isn't what a wingman supposed to do ?
They were so beautifully done too. The way showed and made the lack of line and him being mostly non-verbal just a part of it. No big thing but still gave that representation of a side of health folk often don't think of its impact and then the funeral and fly by... just feels like the perfect send off to honor the legend in film.
@@420metalguy The fact that Val has cancer in real life and Tom went out of his way, despite Tom's reputation with Scientology, he seems to be a good person.
@@saucejohnson9862 Val HAD cancer. He beat it twice, but he had to get 2 trachs in the process because of it.
Gonky has to be a permanent guest on your channel lol. You two are a great pairing and that's rare to find
whats his channel?
@@blademanx the ready room
gonky tells some hilarious stories. The high alpha pass thing killed me
Exactly!!!
M: "He got cocky (...) He wanted the gun kill"
G: "Wouldnt you?"
M: (instantly) "yes, of course"
I was inverted.
Pride before the fall
@@MentalParadox If we're perfectly honest in the world of air to air combat, missile kills dont really count ;)
Besides, ammo is cheaper than missile!
@@thevictoryoverhimself7298 Nawh, they definitely do :D
It doesn't get mentioned but while Hangman now has two kills, Rooster has three. As part of a dual crewed aircraft, he shares the SU-57 victories with Maverick plus he shot down the helicopter.
how is this missed!?
@@traildogisla in movies, if you are not the one pulling the trigger = not your kill. Plus, fighter jet kill > heli kill I guess
@@Fujtajblus helo's definitely count, very hard to hit low down, but of course... Movies
I would imagine that helicopter had 2 people in it as well, if so that puts him at 4 kills
@@proper7439 it's number of aircraft not people in them that is counted
One of the most advanced fighter jet but the SU-57 fails to detect a lock from Hangman's missile.
You're assuming it was a guided missile, but when you're as good as Hangman is then it's better to run rocket pods to maximise your kill count! xD
Because SU57 is garbage.. that is why you won't see it in Ukraine war..
The Su57 is Not Dominating ukraine airspace.. bwahahahahaha..
In the film, it's a relatively small missile locked to the side of the intakes on Hangman's F-18(?) I don't know what kind. The third SU57 pilot didn't seem to get a missile warning before he got blowed up. Wouldn't the SU57s sensors detect an incoming missile?
@@BTM8109 def the Aim-9 sidewinder
@@BTM8109 thats why i was like how tf the moment the SU-57 fires the missile then boom gets hit by Hangman's missile. While the old F-14A could detect a lock so fast the moment the radar and radio circuit breaker is press in.
02:48 - They did indeed not arm the seats. There is a camera shot where you can see the safety still in place on Roosters seat ^^
Good eye.
I love the fact that previously in the movie they're able to flight-prep the Tomcat and they somehow miss the most crucial part.
@@ozpin8329 Rooster is unfamiliar with the seat model, as he is F18 only era, and the A-model Tomcat had a different seat. He may have even been foolish enough to think it was live from the moment the aircraft started.
@@BonesCapone What pilot thinks the ejection seat is automatically armed?
@@timf2279 This! Absolutely no fighter aircraft has auto arming ejection seats when it's started.
I love when the Su-57 comes around behind them using thrust vectoring. It’s so smooth, but so unnaturally fast.
Since they flew against the Raptor in the T-38s i was expecing a coment like "now thats a familiar sight" ...and we got it
Thrust Vectoring or not, a pilot has G limits.
@@fairlanemuscle G limits aren't what you worry about when you're below corner speed
Yeah, Hangman didn't need a character arc. He was never a bad guy, he's just way overconfident and had a habit of leaving the plane he was watching to go after the kill. In this case he was the perfect guy to fly protection for them because he's almost as good as Maverick in a dogfight situation and it's all 1 v 1 in this situation. He got the kill, saved the 2 guys he felt were his rivals, and got bragging rights. That's exactly how he'd act in that situation with what we know about him from the movie.
Hangman stopped
his smugging after the beach football match, he started taking things more seriously and gets along with everyone else
@@hybridAbsol yeah like hangman and rooster have that moment of respect before launching for the mission
Hangman started respecting Maverick after he saw him do that bombing run in 2 minutes.
Exactly!
I honestly liked Hangman's arc. Very similar to Ice, he's cocky and obnoxious at first but then we see he's actually a good guy.
The P-51 at the end is actually owned by Tom Cruise, that was actually him flying it with Jennifer Connelly in the back seat.
I thought that scene was really beautiful, sad the guys didn't like it
That is the reason he mentions the 'tax break'...
An F4F wouldn't had looked as cool as the mustang. Maybe an F4U would have though.
Mover = "Do you think Maverick is an A&P?"
Gonky = "Do you think he cares?"
The commentary was Gold throughout this series..... im going to go back and rewatch the whole thing. 👍
A P-51 is more than likely classified as "EXPEREMENTAL" allowing the owner to perform their own maintenance. Only the air worthyness inspections have to be performed and signed off by an A&P.
what's A&P?
@@DoomRulz "Airframe and Powerplant mechanic". On aircraft other than aircraft designated as Experimental, a licensed A&P mechanic has to do maintenance on aircraft. The joke is if Maverick is a licensed A&P or not to work on his aircraft legally, that is if it is not deemed "experimental" which would basically allow him to wrench on it all he wants..
He’s wrenching in the exact same spot in all three garage scenes
@@robweiss748 guaranteed to be spark plugs imo. But also protected under 14 CFR Part 43. Almost a guarantee this plane is considered experimental. Though the fact that Tom Cruise used it for the end of the movie almost makes you wonder if FAA would classify that differently as it took part in something that earned income.
A proper ending to that carrier landing, since Mover mentioned 'Hot Shots', would be for Rooster's ejection seat to finally fire, sending him up and over the deck, into the water.
Good series, you guys. A little snark is always good for an action movie. Shows an actual respect for the show.
That would be so funny in a new hot shots lol
“ I can see my house from here!”
Maybe Maverick only ever carrier landed F-14s, but Admiral Benson never landed a plane in his life.
@@kurtwpg Only because of the steel plate in his head....
"What was he the spare to, the whole war??" One of your best comments, then you go "What, did he go to AA and find Jesus?" 2 for 2 there, I'm still laughing!
Yea funny. I think he got it when he wasn’t picked.
Hangman is actually also carrying 105mm Howitzer for ground support, you just didn't see it
lol
7:04 - He reloaded / restocked his AMRAAM's instantaneously in mid-air, like in Ace Combat!
Ive really enjoyed this series - thanks Mover & Gonky!
7:46 check the empty rail
@@ragingpotato is seems to be empty in some shots and full on others, as far as I could tell the sequence was empty-full-empty, but I could be wrong
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul are you looking at the port cheek rail?
He grabbed the ones hidden in the black cloud. His HUD showed an flashing icon of ammo.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchulThere was no continuity error here. One of the cheek mounts is empty throughout.
Spare to the whole war had me dying 😂😂
I like how the last thing on Gonky’s mind is plugging his channel. He just wants to fly jets and listen to danger zone 😂
One of my biggest disappointments in the script was the ending on deck, hugged it out. “Thank you for saving my life”, why didn’t they have him reply “Bulls*hit thank you for saving mine”?
As for the P51, idk why everyone is getting up in arms over it being an airforce plane in a navy movie. In terms of screen presence it’s definitely more iconic to the general public than a corsair. The cost for those are more unrealistic than him flying one, i’m going with Mav having restored or built a kit version (still pretty expensive tho).
Still i think you have to compare the two endings to the two themes of the movies. In the original Mav is going off to continue his career flying with the best. In this sequel he’s basically now retired and he finally gets the family that he avoided when he was flying for the navy. Just like the first movie it’s showing the next step in his life, flying off into the sunset. I think it makes perfect sense, even music wise. In a sense he’s no longer Maverick, he’s become just Pete Mitchell again…
Spot on. Top Gun is about Top Gun, Top Gun: Maverick is about Maverick. The endings make perfect sense. Also I doubt most regular people are even aware Mustangs are Air Force and not Navy. Doubt they even make a distinction between the two at all.
I think the movie had to limit the amount of f-bombs to get its rating. It used up its 1 f-bomb license in that scene where the Su57 does its thrust vectoring black magic
I’m going with Mav cutting a deal with “Fat Leonard” Francis to get the Mustang. Thus why he lives in the hangar- can’t get served if he lives on base !😂
I mean, how many surviving Corsairs are even in private hands these days? I don't know for sure, but I feel privately owned Mustangs have to be far far more common and realistic to own.
Mustang was an Army fighter.
Maverick and Iceman are peer relationship in TG. Maverick and Rooster are a father-son relationship in the family and a senior-junior relationship in the service. If Rooster responded to Maverick with "Bullsh*it", that would be totally off - and Mover wouldn't let that go.
I watched Clint Eastwood in “Firefox” the other day. The whole time I wondered what Mover & Gonky would have to say about that one! It is a fictional plane, but could still be interesting.
I have been bringing this up to Mover for at least 6 months, Hopefully one day he will do it
Well now we gotta get then to watch Stealth as well😅
@@hurricaneace143 He did a while back
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@@hurricaneace143 He already has. czcams.com/video/7i3wg1XWgGg/video.html
@@hurricaneace143 I thought mover already did one?
Great move and great comments guys. Maybe the Darkstar didn't need to be in it, but dang! that is a beautiful fuselage. Some shots were too close, but in the old days, non-active duty friends would sometimes slip in an unauthorized maneuver or two like giving their F-105 leader a surprise "Hot Nose" rejoin. Lead calls for a straight-ahead join off the range and is head down busy getting the clearance while his wingman, at 550K, would come under him and pull up while lighting the hard light afterburner so lead would have a face full of jet and a hard light afterburner explosion. It would shake the canopy and knock your feet off the rudder peddles. What a thrill! A training rule might have been bent but I think the only danger was giving the leader a heart attack. There was no chapter in the rule book about doing or not doing a Hot Nose Rejoin. I can't find any demonstrations on the internet so it will just have to be a memory. It was not uncommon to get the wing rock to join the flight of four into fingertip during RTB from the range and do barrel roll descents from cruise altitude down to initial. My first time flying this I was four and a brown bar, I was so excited and laughed so hard throughout the rolls. I couldn't believe we were doing it, but it was safe, just upside down. I tried it with a flight of two while on active duty and the wingman had a fit. We sometimes did a low-level to the range and did a popup to HADB in the F-16. I was surprised that it was almost like Maverick's attack sans the mountains. It surprised the range officer. Under certain circumstances, it might be a viable tactic. One of the founders of air combat said, "Flexibility is the key to Air Power." After we retired, my SQ/CC said in his day it was not uncommon to fly under bridges in his F-84. I bet there are plenty of stories out there where the pilots have done some pretty exciting things like in the movie or very close to it. There were lots of flybys done over girlfriend's or family member's houses. Some didn't turn out so well, unfortunately. None of it is permitted these days. None of it was "permitted" in those days either. They weren't very tactical, but they sure were fun and it did teach you to think so in a way they were tactical. I am about to watch my copy of Maverick for the seventh time. It does keep getting better. We all wish we could do it again. I have heard some stories from the old days by Navy pilots about landing from the back side of a loop or Immelmen. I had never seen it before, but it sure sounded interesting. I don't know the copyright rules and I never notice links on CZcams and I can't read the copyright so the credit to them. If you search for this subject. INCREDIBLE Landing Maneuver With The Rafale! There is a good chance you will find a very short video of a Rafale flying an Immelman to a landing, a beautiful stunt. It would be a typical Maverick maneuver. Maybe it will show up in TOPGUN 3. Maybe you two guys will get a chance for another fini flight and you could end it this way and in fingertip.
The entire series was HIGHLY entertaining and makes me enjoy the movie even more. Kudos.
Thanks for doing this guys…. Felt like we were right there with you, and you didn’t ruin it, we all know it’s a movie and hearing you guys bang around about it was fun.
Excellent work 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Still the most awesome film released in almost two decades.
I wouldn't say that top 20 for sure.
@@timf2279Definitely in top 5… Can you name 5 better movies in last 2 decades?
When you guys were talking about Maverick's home/hanger, I could almost hear Chris Farley saying, "the next thing you know, you are living in a hanger down at the airport!"
It broke me when Mover said, "What was he the spare to? The whole war?!" 🤣🤣🤣
Gonky’s right! If you pause at 7:47 you’ll see that one of the AMRAAM’s on the fuselage is missing!
Darn, someone beat me to it but yeah AMRAAM shot from the fuselage is a really cool detail harder to see when the F-18 breaks away from the Tomcat and shows its belly but it is also missing in that shot as well. This is a really nice detail and also gives us reason to suspect that he was carrying 2 Aim-9X, 6 Aim-120 AMRAAMs, 2 GBU 24 Paveway IIIs, not to mention the external fuel tanks. The guy was flying heavy but the only AMRAAM fired in the movie is a cool thought.
When you binge most of the series, but then discover the last episode isn't out
Ha, yeah I clicked on it and thought my internet cut out since it wasn't playing while in full screen.
After the talk about the AMRAAMs there was a shot showing the cheek rail with one missing. Great attention to detail!
Mover & Gonky: all I can say is thank you for this series. It’s one of the best series on CZcams!
Great series Mover! I really appreciate all the aggravation you went through to get these out. Keep up the great work!
And Gonky, it was good to see ya again!
Really do appreciate listening to you and Gonky's takes on this sort of thing. hope to see more of it
Thank you Mover and Gonky for taking the time to give us some great insight on the movies. I for one appreciate getting insight on some of the things that we all think are cool or possible but are actually have different outcomes than what the movies would should. Can't wait to see your next video that you do.
These breakdowns were great to see the differences b/w the film and real life. Really cool what you guys do
Thank you Mover and Gonky for the awesome series of videos!
Thanks for this awesome little series Mover and Gonky. Loved every minute of hearing you guys talk about this.
7:45 Looks like Gonky actually was right about the cheek mount- there's an AMRAAM on the right intake but missing on the left. So yes, we are meant to believe that they scrambled Hangman off the deck to go fight in a Rhino with three bags, two Paveways, two Sidewinders, six AMRAAMs, and an invisible ATFLIR. Yeehaw cowboy.
Hangman's excitable for choice.
Hangman should have jettisoned the bombs as soon as he was far enough from the carrier to do so. That way he's a2a configuration for the intercept
I’ve noticed that in everything where there’s a character named “Admiral Cain” the person has been a total tool, psycho or somehow an antagonist. But the one that takes the cake for me is Admiral Helena Cain from BSG played by Michelle Forbes, Ed Harris takes a very close #2 spot behind her IMO 😂
Anyone named Cain (or Kane) is always a total tool. Except Joe Kucan's Kane in Command & Conquer. That's just camp awesome with a large ham.
Fun fact: if you read the full credits they list Cain's callsign as "Hammer", meaning he was once a Naval Aviator as well.
@@shura0107 PEACE! THROUGH!! POWER!!!
Absolutely loved this series, I'm with everyone else asking for more vids with Gonky if you're both interested!
1:01 We (the UK) had a female Apache pilot whose nickname was "Winchester". She was an absolute fucking Terminator who'd have a go at anything that moved if she had so much as a single round left. If she came to my house, the fish'd stop swimming. The amount of times she came back from ops with that word floating over the airwaves....
Thank you, guys. Watched your whole series, and enjoyed all of your input.
There's a front profile shot of Hangman's jet with the gear down for like 1 second. The left fuselage pylon 7 is actually missing an AMRAMM.
Loved watching your critique. Thanks for sharing your expertise and humor.
I would really like to see you interview the technical advisors on the film. It would be very entertaining to hear the internal give and take between the director/screenwriter and the technical advisors.
The sad part is a lot of what you pointed out would be easy to fix without much effort or impact to the plot.
That does seem to be a generic problem with movies these days. A lot of the incorrect or unrealistic details seem to be fairly simple to fix, but for some reason they don't bother doing so...
thank you for putting these videos togethervand educating us! fun to see real fighter pilot comments!
Absolutely love seeing how this review playlist, honestly makes me want to rewatch that movie all over again.
I have been watch your channel for years now and really enjoy it especially with "Gonky". You two have live what every young boy and most men and yes some women dream about. You two went the miles, did the hard work never giving up to fly for the military. Mover, you being in a bad place makes me sad with all that you have a done. I'm sitting here with CHF (search the medical meaning) a Bovine aortic valve and wires attached in my heart . I'm never in a bad place, just happy to be here watching videos like yours that I truly enjoy. Keep up your videos with Gonky, bringing to people like me to enjoy and maybe your videos will reach some younger views to follow your path. God bless you and yours Gonky and his family
hope you're doing okay mate
God bless you
As the mission went more and more wrong, they just kept adding weapons to Hangman’s jet.
I joined in 1988. After boot and aprenticship training they sent me to VF124 Gunfighters, NAS Miramar. Next door to VF1 Wolfpack and Top Gun. I was a plane captain striking for my AT Crow. That year was the one of the best of my life. The original Top Gun had came out two years prior. We were kings of the world.
Just watched the whole series and I enjoyed it immensely. I learned alot but mostly I enjoyed your humor and honesty! Thanks for a enjoyable evening!
Salute to mav and hangman for destroying the only 3 operational su 57’s
Like you said people just need to look at this movie as entertainment. It's not supposed to be a documentary so they can do whatever they want to the plot. As a summer fun movie, I think they did an excellent job to dumb it down enough for the regular people to follow the technical stuff without making us feel stupid. I would like to see another one soon instead of waiting all my life (born in May of 86).
Thoroughly enjoyed hearing from you guys on this. Well done.
I loved the whole running commentary. Thanks for making this. I always wanted to know what actual fighter jet pilots thought of it.
I don't really understand the complaints about the Mustang not being a Navy aircraft. Would a retired Navy pilot really turn up their nose at any WWII aircraft that wasn't Navy? Besides, privately owned F4U Corsairs and F6F Hellcats are far more rare than P-51s, and are probably even more expensive to buy.
Man, that was a fun series. Thanks guys. I personally like the beginning and especially the end. But that's just personal taste. Most entertaining movie I've seen in at least 10 years. Probably since Captain America: Winter Soldier. And I think the crew of the ship hated H_ngm_n so much they overloaded him hoping he'd go into the drink on take off. 🤣
Gonky, Mover, you guys are awesome and I'm so glad I found this, it's really great to get your perspective on these films!! God bless you, thank you for your service!!!
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Thanks for the breakdown and the reactions guys. It was a fun ride.
Yeah, Hangman's character development was something TGM brushed over, though I'm sure people can connect the dots based on what the movie showed.
A mix of awesome review and absolute roast of the “realism” in this dogfight is going to be so entertaining!
I loved the final dogfight and it will probably go down as one of Tom Cruise’s best action scenes. It’s just not that realistic sadly.
Did they film the scene with two F-18s and then use CGI to re-skin the jets?
@@BTM8109 from what I found in regards to production: the final dogfight is 100% CGI when it comes to the aircraft. As for terrain, I have no idea if it’s a mix of real and computer or full CGI…
@@gryphon1342 For the ground scenes, they used F-14A 159631 from a museum in San Diego. The aircraft was partially restored to have enough hydraulics for canopy opening and closing and wings unfolding/folding. They even painted it to look like the one in the movie including the rogue nation insignia (the aircraft already had a black based tail due to being a high visibility squadron bird). They towed it for the taxiing scenes. All the cockpit footage is from that actual plane.
Thanks guys for an excellent review. I watched the movie mostly for entertainment and thoroughly enjoyed it. At the same time, I also enjoyed watching you and Gonky discuss the movie so I could learn more about what they got right and what was, let's say a bit of a stretch. Thanks for the commentary. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Anyone else notice the sun in different positions during Mav’s landing? When it shows Rooster it’s behind, when is Mav’s POV it’s in front - behind the superstructure, when they touch it’s to the the left of the tomcat, when they finally grind to a halt, it’s behind again…
Side note, loved these video. Thanks Mover and Gonky!
2:13
Mover: he got cocky, wanted the gun kill to tell his little buddies"
Gonky: Wouldn't you?!?!
Mover: (without hesitation) Yes of course.
🤣🤣🤣
🤣 Rooster knows how to expertly and quickly start a huffer, preflight the F-14, and knows how to get into a jet which was probably retired before he joined the Navy (last flight 2006) but forgets to pull the pins and arm his ejection seat. FAIL Lol. 😂 the P-51 tax break comment was epic! Love you guys! Keep roasting movies ~ WAK
Re Rooster, doesn't this happen all the time in life? Don't tell me you have never been in or seen a similar situation.
The P-51 tax break is meaningless unless you bother to check its ownership structure. The natural reason for it in the movie is because Tom Cruise knows how important Top Gun (1986) and its legacy mean to him, and he wants to include everything he loves about aviation in the sequel.
To be completely fair, Maverick himself, who did fly, was trained, and his five kills were in F-14s so the guy is more than at home in that old bird, also forgot to check if the ejection seats were armed. So joke is on both.
At the end when Rooster is looking at Mav’s pictures, there’s a shot of Viper from the OG Top Gun, with Mav’s father.
Very cool! Something to check for next time
great series of videos guys. thoroughly enjoyed both your take on the film and its details. nice one!
Always great to hear experts let us know what the film makers got right and what they got wrong, and still enjoy the movie. Next time, do Hotshots ;)
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@@CWLemoine I see. That's what I get for being new to the channel :P
Salutations from the RCAF, btw...not a pilot, just a member of a Construction Engineer Squadron.
@@CWLemoine but there’s no Gonky! Could we have him react to your take on the movie?!?
So the reason why Hangman's Hornet in this looks so weird is because apparently they used a legacy Hornet for that shot and photoshopped a Superhornet on it. Did you guys notice how the two fuel tanks looked like they were mounted on the cheek stations and weren't even held by pylons. They were just part of the wing and the engine air intake at the same time
Where could they find a legacy Hornet still flying for carrier? And it needs to have those angled pylons?
@@ruiliu4157 Well this movie has been being made for years now so i recon they might have done that scene when the Legacy was still around. In fact if you look at some of the hanger briefing scenes, look closely and you'll see that some of the Hornets in the background are legacys
Yup, underwing tank location is utter BS. There are no stations there, regardless whether you talk about a Legacy or a Super.
@@alexanderbreunig7016 Super Hornet does have stations there.
@@alexanderbreunig7016 the thing was they used a legacy Hornet probably with 2 bags. Then superimposed a Superhornet on it. So the Legacy Hornet's bags are a lot closer obviously so they made it look like they're stuck to the cheek stations of the Superhornet
I had so much fun watching this series. It's the nuts.. I was a TomCat fan as a kid and a navy brat (still have some trinkets and patches from the Kitty Hawk from VFA-213 and my tiger cruise) . Variable geometry apparently was in my future when I enlisted in the AF (yes dad approved) and became an F-111 maintainer and then AF ATC after they retired the airframe.
It brings me back to the days of watching movies in the dayroom or with my dad, pointing out the finer details that were "conjecture" for the sake of good entertainment. But at the end of the day was entertaining.
Cheers to you two for sharing.. Cleared off, monitor guard and report back up.
JV - JohnnyVector
Guys , you both haven't ruined the movie but made it even better with all your knowledges put onto the table and made it so smoothly, so casually, so professionally . Nothing else but pure respect and your chemistry is outstanding. Thank you for the videos and they are definitely gold. Prolly the best movie analysis I've watched in recent years. Cheers for TOMCATS !
"Did they not arm the seat?!"
This seems most likely to me.
i heard Rooster did something wrong with the ejection handle as he was not at all familiar with F14
@@rotyler2177 I do wish it would have been a bit more of a point to highlight his inexperience.
Paramount blocks Mover video but leaves up the hordes of videos literally showing the entire scene 🤦🏾♂️
It’s back up now
@@steveng6511 Nice
@@steveng6511 Definitely getting the DVD 📀 this is the new surround sound check movie
The mustang into the sunset is an amazing visual pun! He rides off into the sunset on his "horse" with his girl in the saddle!!!
A lot of fun and ofc learning, listening to these real-life professionals. Thank you for uploading guys.
cant wait!
They really should have put Anthony Edwards in the credits. I realize there's probably some rule why they couldn't.
Also I totally did not say "TOMCATS!" (quietly) in the theater.
I swear that I didn't stand up and cheer when the credits rolled.
I really enjoyed the videos. You guys are really great to listen to. Thanks for making them.
I finally saw the dang movie and it allowed me to watch this series on your channel. I am not sure what was more exciting, the movie or the reaction of stuff I will never get to do.
Well done. Now I need to buy a Tamiya P-51 kit to build.
What comes first TG3 or Gonky's next youtube video?
Maybe Gonky will be in TG3.
I consider the movie “Stealth” a sequel to Maveric. His worst nightmare came true…..unmanned fighter jets. And the pilots were from the navy too 😂 “EDI is the whole idea!”
Plot twist: Maverick is now Jessica Biel.
@@CWLemoine 💀
"Wouldn't you?" "Yes, of course!" There's some honesty there.
Loved the whole series ! Great commentary :)
MFW... when the DVD commentary with people who weren't even in the movie is better than the movie...
Great series Moover, if only paramount had the sense to consult with you guys during the editing phase of production...and stayed out of your hair while you promoted it for free in the aviation enthusiast community! keep making em we'll keep watching em.
From what we've seen they actually had consultants, they just choose to ignore some of their advice in favor of 'storyline' and\or 'flashy action'...
I agree with mover, they should have had two Hornets flying off into the sunset as the ending.
Or him getting back into the newly built Darkstar v2.0 and going for Mach 12.
Or two doghouses with Maverick and Snoopy as his wingman
Great conclusion to the series gentlemen. Thank you!
The Tomcat doing High G pops are some of the best looking shots of the movie. The CGI was fantastic.
My take on Hangman (FWIW)
I didn’t really pick up on this until the third or 4th time watching.
With an air to air kill, he’s a true air to air combat vet. So he suffers no fools, especially over egoed hot shots that did well in training, maybe dropped bombs but probably haven’t seen SAMs or enemy air threat. So they haven’t seen the monster like him.
He wants to be team lead because he freaking wants to come home. Of course there are reindeer games and posturing and some cringe dialogue, but at the base is that Hangman has zero confidence in his teammates because they have no idea what they are into. That’s why he can be so bold to a kooky old has been O6 with a 4 star buddy. He knows lives are on the line for real and DGAF. Blood >career.
but three key events: complete his arc.
1. Mav does the practice bomb run mission. Hangman is like - ok this guy is for real, and still has IT.
2. He meets up with rooster just before launch and says “give ‘em hell” .? Acknowledging We aren’t in the locker room anymore, we are on the same field, same team. He is totally thrilled when they hit the target. Reminds me of Similar scene in Glory between two rival units when the one pulled the tough job of leading the assault. We go at each other in training, but when the bullets fly, I am your 6.
3. He launches and smokes the Felon, and while he has fun with it, he doesn’t rub it in.
Am I projecting onto him a bit as a combat vet, probably. But When the training calendar is replaced by a two way live fire, bullshit walks. I learned this as a cherry 2LT trying to lead a platoon of returning Mogadishu vets, and I saw it as an O4 with time in country taking new arrivals on adventures in Iraq, including an O6.
Bottom line, hangman earned the right to be a dick but when shit got real, he was the best pilot and teammate you could hope for.
I really liked that character.
The part that annoys me the most is that the movie implies Pete and Penny have had "on and off" flings before. Penny makes a point of this, and tells Pete not to even try this time. Then we get character development, they inevitably get back together, and Pete promises Penny he will *never leave her again*. Their relationship blossoms. The finale happens, Pete goes to visit Penny after the mission. She's gone sailing. So he sticks around until she gets back, right? It's only a day or so... Haha, nope! Ain't no one got time for that, that Mustang won't fix itself. He just abandons her again without saying a word and heads back to the desert. Only reason we got a happy ending is because Penny went after him
I think you are misunderstanding how long a sailing trip lasts. The racing boat featured in the film has a kitchen, crew bunks, etc. They could be out for a week for all Maverick knows. Is he supposed to sleep in the bar indefinitely? Of course not. He leaves a message and waits to hear back.
Loved the reaction with you two
7 days. Release it now damitt.
Ask Paramount
@@CWLemoine C'mon Mover, show some of that pilot shit
Sorry Mover but Top Gun Maverick is so Epic it can't be ruined, Gonky was the only one who kept the hype of the movie.
Flight of the intruder is a much better movie
I love how Gonky just smile and prepare whenever Mover paused the clip 😂. LOVING IT HAHA
Thank you, Guys! I really enjoyed this MRM TGM saga and the takes.
Gonky you made this fun, Mover you were sort of debbie downer most of the 8 reactions. I love the analysis but Gonky excitement made this fun and Mover just sort of going through motions of doing it. The jump from 10:04 to 10:06 shows Mover smiling and looking happy. Not sure if it because it is over and he didn't enjoy it or he did enjoy it.
I think you're reading too much into it.
Thanks for the insight. Added a different dimension to the movie; just watched it a few days ago. Was 16 when Top Gun came out, and the movie, the soundtrack, so 80's. TBH the movie that stuck with me all these years, being a sci-fi fan was The Final Countdown with Kirk Douglas and Martin Sheen... was 10 when that came out and the scene with the F14's playing with the WWII Zeros really stuck with me.
Good to watch as always . Good stuff Mover an Gonky
"What was he the spare to? The whole war?" That got a chuckle out of me.
I enjoyed listening to your analysis and play by play. I had to pause and look up some of the acronyms, slang, and short-hand terminology, since we all have our own specialized language inside groups. Thanks!