@@Asiago-funniest thing is my brother who’s like 5’4 finished 5k in 23:04 and so I was like I am a bit taller and I don’t care for pace and I tried it out. I finished in 30 min. My brother does have more experience but I thought I could just beat his record by sheer fkin will and nope.
For me there is a point where you get your second wind that will last during the duration. I learned that during my airborne training in 1971 on the first 9 mile run to get rid of those who couldn't dig deep to succeed.
My first ever marathon is in a couple hours. Can't sleep didn't train and I'm here watching marathon shirts at 2 am ,race starts at 7 4:26 I impressed myself , life is amazing
You may not have specifically trained for it but clearly were already very very fit. Congrats on an awesome time but you clearly are already regularly athletic but just not specifically with marathons.
I’ve run five marathons. Every other distance (5K, 10K, Half) I always have big kicks in the end of the race, but the marathon is a very different animal. If you’re trying to break a certain goal time, and you’re banking on the final 3 miles to be your fastest splits - haha, good luck. Your cardio could be at immaculate levels and you could still easily “bonk” at miles 23-26 without warning from lack of hydration and glycogen depletion. A lot of times from no fault of your own. It’s the most unpredictable part of the race and even elite professionals blow out after mile 20. To plan a race around negative splits at the end just seems laughably overconfident. Judging by this guy’s running motion and body type (big arms/shoulders, large upper body), I find it hard to believe that he’s running negative splits the last 3 miles of marathons. You should absolutely “bank” fast miles in the easier parts of the course where the elevation is flat and/or the spectators and atmosphere is more electric and motivating, and also while your body is still feeling strong, and your carbohydrate stores are high. No need to burn out, but going out slow is a big gamble just because of how uncertain the end of marathons are.
5 - 10 seconds slower than goal pace. 1. Train faster than goal pace, so GP feels easy 2. Just warm up before your race. If you can't at least maintain your GP, then your GP is too fast.
I’m preparing for my first full marathon. Goal is sub 4 hrs. If my goal race pace is around 8:45 what should I do my training runs at? Love your content
How the hell you negative split the last 3 miles after 23 big ones. That’s legit insane. I plan on starting 5-10 seconds faster than marathon pace to give myself cushion for quick water breaks and the fact I’m going to get tired.
That's a terrible plan, never try to bank time, unless the race starts on a downhill. If you don't bonk, that just means that you were in better shape than you thought you were.
Agree here saying from my personal experience i have always started faster than my goal race pace and eventually through halfway have already tanked 90% of my energy and from halfway its all run-walk which has impacted my timing. Can you please suggest a race strategy i will be doing my 1st full marathon on 21st Jan 2024, even though i don't have any specific time in mind just want to finish it injury free .
I did exactly what you did just recently at a HM Absolute stormed out ,hit 10k at 48mins, however once I got to 16k...my tank was empty. Literally couldn't step it up due to lack of energy. Ended up doing it in 1:53 Jeremy knows what he's talking about, his approach is 100% Bank energy...not time..fact!
You’re running a 5:48 mile? Dude that’s good for anybody Edit: If you can keep a sub 6 minute mile while putting on muscle you’ll be a freak of nature by the time you graduate high school
@@willB0Ifocus on gaining functional strength not muscle. Do endurance based workouts rather than muscle building workouts. Maybe even pick up martial arts or sports
Yeah but itll get slower as you grow, youre small and light so it doesnt take as much effort but yeah its good. Just much much easier when you are that young
It's the wrong approach am telling ya.... had this approach recently at a HM where I was attempting to do sub 1:50 When I got to 10k, I was on 48 mins....but as soon as I hit 16k...I was flat out on Reserves....better off as most say start the race just a tad slower, and gradually increase it in segments. These guys know what they talking about....they been doing it for years
Nah screw that system use the send it and hold on system run at your all out 10k pace then by 30km your a way ahead of pace with 0 energy and u just hold on with will power
@@matt.baller”normal”, define “normal” .. normal is a label you put on yourself because you are not willing to push your self or don’t believe you can. It’s a label it’s not a fact. Yes some of us may have better genetics so on and so forth, but ultimately we all have the ability to push and find our limits. No one is “normal”. Just those that that believe in themselves and those that don’t.
I'm preparing for a 5k race so this is super helpful ❤️
What time did you get
@@Asiago-funniest thing is my brother who’s like 5’4 finished 5k in 23:04 and so I was like I am a bit taller and I don’t care for pace and I tried it out. I finished in 30 min. My brother does have more experience but I thought I could just beat his record by sheer fkin will and nope.
@@lichtx5628 lol
@@lichtx5628 how old is your bro?
5-10 seconds per mile :(
Bros going superseded gawwddamn
@@FlopD0g0he’s going into glizzies overdrive
???😂 I was confused
@@FlopD0g0he means minutes
@edwardb6236 nah he means 5 to 10 seconds slower than the goal pace
You have been a big help as I prepare for my first half marathon
The information is really useful and helpful
For me there is a point where you get your second wind that will last during the duration.
I learned that during my airborne training in 1971 on the first 9 mile run to get rid of those who couldn't dig deep to succeed.
Anxious af for Sept 3rd Kauai Marathon!
My first ever road race been training like an animal. Hope to see you there! Keep inspiring
@calebtaba596 He got 4:14
What was your time?
@@diesel961he is stilling running
The world record for slowest marathon is 54 years so we may have to wait a bit longer
"before bonking" had me dead asf😭
“Bonking” is a common running term and wasn’t meant to be used humorously here.
My first ever marathon is in a couple hours. Can't sleep didn't train and I'm here watching marathon shirts at 2 am ,race starts at 7
4:26
I impressed myself , life is amazing
you’ve got this ❤ all love your hope i’ve been exactly where you are in this comment and I can’t say I loved it. Seriously wishing you the best.
HOLY DAYUM, 4:26???
How did you do? 🎉
You may not have specifically trained for it but clearly were already very very fit. Congrats on an awesome time but you clearly are already regularly athletic but just not specifically with marathons.
You run, let's be honest.
This is truly easier said than done lol.
I’ve run five marathons. Every other distance (5K, 10K, Half) I always have big kicks in the end of the race, but the marathon is a very different animal. If you’re trying to break a certain goal time, and you’re banking on the final 3 miles to be your fastest splits - haha, good luck.
Your cardio could be at immaculate levels and you could still easily “bonk” at miles 23-26 without warning from lack of hydration and glycogen depletion. A lot of times from no fault of your own. It’s the most unpredictable part of the race and even elite professionals blow out after mile 20. To plan a race around negative splits at the end just seems laughably overconfident.
Judging by this guy’s running motion and body type (big arms/shoulders, large upper body), I find it hard to believe that he’s running negative splits the last 3 miles of marathons.
You should absolutely “bank” fast miles in the easier parts of the course where the elevation is flat and/or the spectators and atmosphere is more electric and motivating, and also while your body is still feeling strong, and your carbohydrate stores are high.
No need to burn out, but going out slow is a big gamble just because of how uncertain the end of marathons are.
@@willpomeroy7711I agree
Normalize positive splitting
5 - 10 seconds slower than goal pace. 1. Train faster than goal pace, so GP feels easy 2. Just warm up before your race. If you can't at least maintain your GP, then your GP is too fast.
5-10 seconds?! U on zaza my guy
I’m preparing for my first full marathon. Goal is sub 4 hrs. If my goal race pace is around 8:45 what should I do my training runs at? Love your content
Tysm for this! I hope it will work for my Cross Country tmrw😅🤞
Bro I don’t hear either of those I hear my mom explaining how the secret to speed is sprinting, or I hear “PASS THEM”
Wow, awesome advice!
5 to 10 sec per mile bro is the flash 😂😂
I unfortunately only really have one pace, that said I can manage to run an ultra at that pace.
What if my goal distance is 2 miles?
No. Just run an even pace from mile 1 to mile 26. And if you have additional energy at the end, great.
What hearth rate zone is your goal marathon pace?
How many miles do you train per week
Start fast and then accelerate throughout the race 💪
Yessss
Tq
What about a 3 mile?
I’m preparing for a 3k cross country so
That was good
❤
I just start 15 seconds faster than race pace and then speed up in the last 5K.
How the hell you negative split the last 3 miles after 23 big ones. That’s legit insane. I plan on starting 5-10 seconds faster than marathon pace to give myself cushion for quick water breaks and the fact I’m going to get tired.
That's a terrible plan, never try to bank time, unless the race starts on a downhill. If you don't bonk, that just means that you were in better shape than you thought you were.
Not a good plan. Run comfortable starting out, then let your pace gradually increase without burnout.
Great now teach me how to pace an 800m 😅😭
You don’t, that’s the best part
How abt one mile?
How about a mile race?
just run as fast as you can
Agree here saying from my personal experience i have always started faster than my goal race pace and eventually through halfway have already tanked 90% of my energy and from halfway its all run-walk which has impacted my timing.
Can you please suggest a race strategy i will be doing my 1st full marathon on 21st Jan 2024, even though i don't have any specific time in mind just want to finish it injury free .
yeah don't do that. Start slow and find your cruse pace. Something similar to what he said in the vid or just whatever you feel comfortable at
I did exactly what you did just recently at a HM
Absolute stormed out ,hit 10k at 48mins, however once I got to 16k...my tank was empty. Literally couldn't step it up due to lack of energy. Ended up doing it in 1:53
Jeremy knows what he's talking about, his approach is 100%
Bank energy...not time..fact!
Can I do this for say a 4 k run??
No point, it’ll be over before you start to get into gear 😂
You literally said what people are telling you but just elaborating more
How is 5-10 seconds slow for a mile
sneaker model?
Saucony Endorphin Elite
Is 5:48 good for a 6th grader?
You’re running a 5:48 mile? Dude that’s good for anybody
Edit: If you can keep a sub 6 minute mile while putting on muscle you’ll be a freak of nature by the time you graduate high school
@@TheJMan1K Sounds good, thx
@@willB0Ifocus on gaining functional strength not muscle. Do endurance based workouts rather than muscle building workouts. Maybe even pick up martial arts or sports
Aye do you have Strava? If you do lemme get it: nice job man.
If you don’t you should if you enjoy running
Yeah but itll get slower as you grow, youre small and light so it doesnt take as much effort but yeah its good. Just much much easier when you are that young
5 SECONDS PER MILE ??? WTF
Lol he meant 5 seconds slower than his goal pace, unless he's in a rocket-ship😅
Dude talks as though there is any energy remaining regardless of pace ,😂
Telling people to stop banking time because it doesn’t work for you is kinda weird as that may work for some people.
It can work but it's way more risky and you need to have some experience, it's not worth the risk for most people.
The problem is, if you bank a minute at the beginning you're going to lose 2 minutes at least at the end.
It's the wrong approach am telling ya.... had this approach recently at a HM where I was attempting to do sub 1:50
When I got to 10k, I was on 48 mins....but as soon as I hit 16k...I was flat out on Reserves....better off as most say start the race just a tad slower, and gradually increase it in segments.
These guys know what they talking about....they been doing it for years
Avoid what now?
Most people are dead in the last few miles
Nah screw that system use the send it and hold on system run at your all out 10k pace then by 30km your a way ahead of pace with 0 energy and u just hold on with will power
Terrible advice
It’s a race after all, why run it if you can’t go all out right?
@@Adrian16Z because it won’t work for most people. Willpower alone doesn’t overcome depleted muscles for the majority of normal people.
@@matt.baller”normal”, define “normal” .. normal is a label you put on yourself because you are not willing to push your self or don’t believe you can. It’s a label it’s not a fact. Yes some of us may have better genetics so on and so forth, but ultimately we all have the ability to push and find our limits. No one is “normal”. Just those that that believe in themselves and those that don’t.
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