NBA Legends Explain Why Nikola Jokic ROBBED of 2023 MVP

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  • @ProSportBasketball
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  • @bobbytropo2314
    @bobbytropo2314 Před 10 měsíci +1870

    Jokic was robbed due to a multitude of factors but not one of them had anything to do with basketball

    • @manuelantuna26
      @manuelantuna26 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@cristianofumagalli3045
      And because he is fat and white.

    • @nofilteralltruth
      @nofilteralltruth Před 8 měsíci +12

      Well you both are wrong somehow for one Larry Bird won three MVPs in a row and he wasn't the first and for two jock does have two this would have been his third.

    • @Texas75023
      @Texas75023 Před 7 měsíci +60

      There's ONE BIG elephant in the room.

    • @joncondrey6617
      @joncondrey6617 Před 7 měsíci +45

      @@martinlutherking6550 actually 3 guys have already won 3 consecutive NBA MVPs. Chamberlain, Russell, and Bird. Most voters didn't want him in the conversation with those three. Same reason Bird didn't win his fourth consecutive in 87. Bird averaged 28.1 points, 9.2 rebounds and 7.6 assists, established the 40-50-90 all in that year. Bird was not going to be the first player to win four in a row.

    • @froyocrew
      @froyocrew Před 7 měsíci +215

      let's be real here, no point in dancing around it: jokic being white is a huge factor in all this

  • @dariusgordon2266
    @dariusgordon2266 Před 10 měsíci +1448

    The fact that jokic made history anyway by leading Denver to win the first championship in franchise history is fucking hilarious 😂😂

    • @bojan4813
      @bojan4813 Před 10 měsíci +117

      Jokic should get statue in city

    • @dariusgordon2266
      @dariusgordon2266 Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@bojan4813 you said it brother.

    • @denniswilkerson5536
      @denniswilkerson5536 Před 10 měsíci +80

      Jokic is undeniably the Nuggets greatest player, I don’t get why there were Melo comparisons after he just won a ring in Denver

    • @user-fj8ey8pv8s
      @user-fj8ey8pv8s Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@bojan4813 yep only Elway, Sakic, Jokic deserve them statues

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@bojan4813that is a bit far maybe if he wins a few more chips

  • @vowelsounds6312
    @vowelsounds6312 Před 10 měsíci +1129

    Jokic is everything an mvp is supposed to be.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      WHAT ?? 33 PPG MURRAY WHO WON ALONE VS LAKERS. JOKIC IS SOFT ERA SELLOUT NARRATIVE THAT DERANGED PPL BELIEVE

    • @Moshimaru22
      @Moshimaru22 Před 10 měsíci +13

      He is a better team leader than other players

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Moshimaru22 YEAH HE LED TEAM TO SWEEP VS KEVON LOONEY 2 YEARS IN A ROW. SHOW ME GOLD VS 40 YEARS LUIS SCOLA ??

    • @milosstevanovic1377
      @milosstevanovic1377 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Hahahaha, angry?

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Před 9 měsíci

      Yawn

  • @militiamancampbell
    @militiamancampbell Před 9 měsíci +705

    The biggest difference between Jokic and Embiid is that Embidd cared deeply about the MVP and cried about it for two years and put it above team success, whereas Jokic couldnt give two shits and just plays and puts his team first. Jokic's team mates seem to genuinely like the guy, whereas I doubt Embiids feel the same way

    • @Abb0able
      @Abb0able Před 7 měsíci

      Embid had no trouble throwing team mates under the bus as scapegoats while keeping Harden and himself blame free. czcams.com/video/YuqcnfDnJ3I/video.html

    • @laputa2195
      @laputa2195 Před 7 měsíci +37

      Yeah, he's got all these people hating on him, and all these other people loving and defending him, but he himself couldn't care less and just wants to check up on his horses.

    • @erichvonmanstein6876
      @erichvonmanstein6876 Před 5 měsíci

      There is no difference, they're both two overrated, weak , nothing special, playing in a weak era centers who would get dominated in any other era

    • @bojanvidakovic1141
      @bojanvidakovic1141 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Trolls will be trolls

    • @VB-zx1yk
      @VB-zx1yk Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@erichvonmanstein6876 cry some more and let us know how you feel then? lol

  • @trigun442
    @trigun442 Před 10 měsíci +643

    One thing is for certain that the 2023 NBA season is going to be regarded as the time where Jokic didn't win the regular season MVP because of racism and Embiid crying to the media to have one but instead, Jokic won a championship with a finals MVP.

    • @davemartino5997
      @davemartino5997 Před 10 měsíci +2

      There’s no doubt he didn’t get the third cuz he’s white plain and simple too many salty blacks can’t stand a white player better than them .

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci +1

      REALLY DERANGED SO WHY MIKE MALONE CRY AFTER EVERY GAME FOR MEDIA ATTENTION ? 1 IS SURE U R DERANGED

    • @JayLandon64
      @JayLandon64 Před 10 měsíci +35

      He had the most amazing post-season. First, he becomes the first player with a post-season 30-20-10 and then he leads the whole post-season in points, rebounds, and assists. The only people truly capable of that previously were probably Magic and Bird. Dunno if either one of them ever did it, but they could have.

    • @JayLandon64
      @JayLandon64 Před 10 měsíci

      @@PIP...33 You have already proven to have no idea what you are talking about.
      You are a joke.

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci +29

      Yep antiwhitism

  • @dylan9013
    @dylan9013 Před 10 měsíci +770

    Embiid is the NBA's first Most Valuable Perkins

  • @christianmccaffrey7113
    @christianmccaffrey7113 Před 7 měsíci +170

    Jokic then became the first player in NBA history to lead in points, rebounds, and assists in the post season.

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Před 6 měsíci

      Inefficiency ball hog

    • @christianlenik5307
      @christianlenik5307 Před 6 měsíci

      cry quiet, N-Word, Blyat@@Loquacious_Jackson

    • @christianmccaffrey7113
      @christianmccaffrey7113 Před 5 měsíci +31

      @@Loquacious_Jackson he leads in efficiency so keep crying and do your research.

    • @miketexas4549
      @miketexas4549 Před 5 měsíci +8

      AND NOT CARE ABOUT IT! That's what makes Jokic so special. Basketball is his job, he'd rather race horses in Serbia. Now that's gangster.

    • @leoshest9651
      @leoshest9651 Před 4 měsíci

      Dude has horse racing money already.​@@miketexas4549

  • @JayLandon64
    @JayLandon64 Před 10 měsíci +273

    Jokic was clearly the best player in the NBA this season. Embiid got a trophy but the players know who was best last year.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci +2

      THAT MEANS OLAJUWON AND ADMIRAL ARE BETTER THAN MJ BECAUSE JORDAN ONLY HAD 33 PPG LIKE EMBIID WHILE BEST STATS IN LEAGUE HAD HAKEEM AND ROBINSON EVERY YEAR. NICE TO ADMIT THAT OLAJUWON IS GOAT. JORDAN NOT GREAT HE ONLY SCORE LIKE EMBIID 33 PPG

    • @JayLandon64
      @JayLandon64 Před 10 měsíci

      @@PIP...33 WTF are you talking about? First, Jordan never opposed a season like Jokic had because no one has had a season like Jokic had. Jokic nearly averaged a triple double from the center position. In almost every stat, conventional and advanced, Jokic beats Embiid. So, like I said, Embiid got a nice trophy he did not deserve because the true MVP plays for the Nuggets. When Olajuwon and Robinson do that, let me know. Oh, and Jordan was usually in the top 20% for assists, usually one of the top guard rebounders, and led the league in steals bunches of times. He was a three-time Defensive POY. His PER blows Olajuwon and Robinson away. Go talk about a sport you know and/or practice your literacy. You aren't very good at any of it.

    • @beepboop4833
      @beepboop4833 Před 9 měsíci +41

      ​@@PIP...33Your caps lock is on.

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@PIP...33MJ is goat and proved it with 6 finals mvp and marvellous performances unlike Embiid lol 😂 don’t ever disrespect MJ ever again

    • @tromboneman4517
      @tromboneman4517 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Embiid won a trophy… Jokic won THE trophy.

  • @sir_tut2949
    @sir_tut2949 Před 10 měsíci +195

    The best thing is Jokic could care less about his two MVPs and missing out on a 3rd. Bro just wanted to win basketball games and eventually a title. Big respect to Jokic and the Nuggets!

    • @dondee5439
      @dondee5439 Před 10 měsíci +11

      *he could NOT care less. In other words, he is at the bottom of caring.

    • @davemartino5997
      @davemartino5997 Před 10 měsíci

      @@dondee5439 sit down kid

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@dondee5439 HE KNOWS MURRAY CARRY HIM TO RING

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci

      Winning 3 in a row is pretty big deal if he wants to be one of the greatest centers of all time only wilt chamberlain and bill Russel are the two centers to accomplish it Bird is the third but he’s not a center .

    • @ErLeuchten
      @ErLeuchten Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@angelackerman7865 " if he wants to be one of the greatest centers of all time" erm, but he is already?

  • @Anonymous_Lee19
    @Anonymous_Lee19 Před 10 měsíci +164

    Many times, players were voted MVP simply because the voters think that "this player deserve at least one MVP in his entire career", and not because of the player's performance in that one season.

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci +6

      That sounds like BS to me

    • @liekegerritsen1620
      @liekegerritsen1620 Před 9 měsíci +21

      Or: This guy doesnt deserve 3 MVPs in a row

    • @spsawyer22
      @spsawyer22 Před 9 měsíci +5

      ​@angelackerman7865 it is but that's how Karl Malone won MVP over MJ.

    • @Baronight
      @Baronight Před 5 měsíci

      @@angelackerman7865 thats how charles barkley got his MVP...its a sentiment that happened alot especially when the voter tired of seeing the same dude keep winning accolades...its not far fetched idea.

    • @jtaustinmusic
      @jtaustinmusic Před 4 měsíci +1

      Does anyone really think Steve Nash was MVP over Kobe?

  • @AceXun13
    @AceXun13 Před 10 měsíci +240

    Gordon was tough too.. im actually glad Gordon got a ring because he plays hard and with heart.💯

    • @joemarshall4226
      @joemarshall4226 Před 9 měsíci +16

      So is Murray. It's a team of really great guys.

    • @gg456stormy
      @gg456stormy Před 9 měsíci +16

      They don't win without Gordon. His offense is a big plus but his size and athleticism on D is what they need.

    • @AceXun13
      @AceXun13 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@gg456stormy faaacts.. 👍🏾

    • @jarredlkling
      @jarredlkling Před 5 měsíci +2

      Gordon is the second best player in the team, he's defence and offence production is the reason they won so much

    • @AceXun13
      @AceXun13 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jarredlkling Agree 👍🏿

  • @Tanarosblack
    @Tanarosblack Před 10 měsíci +162

    It's funny, looking at Jokic scoring over AD and shrugging afterwards, I am reminded of Good Will Hunting. Just like Mozzart doesn't see a piano, but music, Jokic doesn't see a ball and a hoop, he sees the game of basketball. Almost like he doesn't even have to try. He is just awesome at it, pure genious.

  • @Chronoic
    @Chronoic Před 10 měsíci +69

    NBA Media didn't want Jokic to make history, so Jokic went into the play off and blew alot of records in the playoff that has never been broken in generations out of the water, telling these same media shill, you can't keep me out of the record books and good luck trying to break my new playoff records.

    • @theYT_moderator
      @theYT_moderator Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah nah lil bro he's just a good baller and doesn't care what North American media says or does. We can all push the narrative that somehow embid controls the media and got the MVP, but end of the day embid had a great year and got the award. Does he deserve it over jokic? Not in my opinion but let's not get carried away.

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus Před 7 měsíci +25

    Joel literally cried his way into the MVP.

  • @ManafestoRah
    @ManafestoRah Před 10 měsíci +275

    Kendrick perkins racebaiting? was a bigger factor than voter fatigue he was on top until that narrative came out

    • @personwomanmancameratv4558
      @personwomanmancameratv4558 Před 10 měsíci

      jokic didn't get mvp only because of what that square headed idiot said

    • @samantharay6098
      @samantharay6098 Před 10 měsíci

      stupid fake take amazing how many youtuber commenters seem to believe this noise

    • @artvallejos1460
      @artvallejos1460 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@samantharay6098
      don't be so sarcastic

    • @samantharay6098
      @samantharay6098 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@artvallejos1460 not sarcasm.

    • @observedot7490
      @observedot7490 Před 10 měsíci +4

      It wasn’t, making up false narratives. Joel had a better regular season than Jokic , and his is from a Nuggets supporter

  • @noblevictory2200
    @noblevictory2200 Před 10 měsíci +401

    Nikola not only is one of the best players ever but he's also the most genuine and kindest human being's ever!! He's a sweetheart of a giant and is so humble in spirit! (๑ơ ₃ ơ)♥
    We love him here in Colorado very much!
    He was totally robbed of the accolades and recognition he so deserves.

    • @SundayPagan
      @SundayPagan Před 10 měsíci +5

      Best players ever? The meat riding is crazy 🤣

    • @djakela4124
      @djakela4124 Před 10 měsíci +22

      ​@@SundayPaganwill be don't worry

    • @SundayPagan
      @SundayPagan Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@djakela4124 depends on how he continues to play for the next 10 years if he plays for that long

    • @TraderWize
      @TraderWize Před 10 měsíci +28

      @@SundayPaganlook at his skill set no other big man doing it like him leading his team crossing mfs up shooting threes catching rebounds winning two most valuable player awards putting him as the best player in the league for 2 seasons minimum ? he’s def top all time

    • @dixie2639
      @dixie2639 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I agree 1000000%

  • @rodleyeriffe9149
    @rodleyeriffe9149 Před 10 měsíci +60

    I believe they thought Jokic would unravel when he didn't get the coveted three peat. They totally underestimated the unselfish Jokic because they don't understand it's a team sport.

    • @daliguj221
      @daliguj221 Před 7 měsíci

      Did the same thing with Giannis. Not unreasonable to doubt if a guy can do it until you see it

  • @guydelaqua940
    @guydelaqua940 Před 8 měsíci +13

    The thing is Joker doesn't pass like a point guard. He passes like the best point guards of all time.

  • @randygraham926
    @randygraham926 Před 10 měsíci +71

    The fact that Jokic produced in the playoffs -- winning a championship and a finals MVP -- is more important than a 3rd regular season MVP. His playoff run totally validates his first 2 MVPs, whereas a 3rd MVP would not. You would still have to listen to the pipsqueaks saying he didn't deserve MVP awards.
    So it all worked out fine.

    • @vladimird8541
      @vladimird8541 Před 10 měsíci

      Good take

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      WHAT PLAYOFF ? THE FACT THAT U R DERANGED WHO DIDNT MENTION MURRAY 33 PPG CARRY JOKIC VS LAKERS...

    • @davide4725
      @davide4725 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@PIP...33Kid, don't go calling anyone deranged when you don't know how capitalization works. It's a bad look

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 8 měsíci

      @@davide4725 SO U R DERANGED . U CANT DENY MY FACT SO U TRY TO CHANGE TOPICS. THATS WOMEN BEHAVIOR

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 8 měsíci

      @@davide4725 U DERANGED DENY MY FACTS FIRST

  • @DaveRamirez-xc1ez
    @DaveRamirez-xc1ez Před 4 měsíci +7

    Mark Jackson will always be remembered being dunked on by Tom Chambers

  • @massimilianobergamaschi7434
    @massimilianobergamaschi7434 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I'm italian.
    In italy we think that individual awards count less than team victories.
    An individual award is based on subjective opinions of people while victories are not.
    We obviously judge players beyond the wins so we talk about best players but we usually judge entire careers instead of single years.
    So its possible jokic don't care too much about MVP since he won the title playing so very good.

  • @thundian
    @thundian Před 10 měsíci +22

    Jokic was the best player of both 2022-23 regular season and playoffs, period

  • @bryanfoster326
    @bryanfoster326 Před 10 měsíci +54

    Keep in mind y’all, perk kept the date cutoff to after 1990 or the last 33 years because if he just included 1 more year back, the question would be what do dirk, nash, jokic, and magic all have in common.
    If an nba media person ever tosses out qualifiers to their stats, understand they’re trying to cut out someone specific who disproves their point. In the case of date qualifiers, you just gotta include their qualifier to see their whole point fall apart.

  • @karlternida8025
    @karlternida8025 Před 7 měsíci +50

    I'm living in the Philippines(Filipino) and I know for a fact that after watching all those NBA analysts say things about Jokic being the MVP for the 3rd time, it's more about the color of his skin than basketball. I'm not sure if this is the same case with LarryB, but for Jokic, the case is very clear. If the only stats you base your MVP vote in is the PPG and blocks, then I understand why you would vote for Embid.

    • @shaebrown2872
      @shaebrown2872 Před 6 měsíci +8

      thank god someone has the back bone to say it

  • @juanio7036
    @juanio7036 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Jokic had the last laugh winning finals mvp

  • @wdfsmdu
    @wdfsmdu Před 9 měsíci +8

    When the top 2 coaches in the nba (kerr and pop) publicly come out and say they drop everything to watch jokic play speaks volumes.

  • @60zeller
    @60zeller Před 10 měsíci +11

    When you look at Joel’s stats you pick him.
    When you watch them play
    Joel looks like he should not even be in the conversation with the Joker

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 Před 10 měsíci +26

    What's really weird about the Mark Jackson apology is that it was done at 4:30 in the morning. You can see on the tweet that it's 4:26 I guess he was up all night wrestling with his conscience. Most likely he realize that if he didn't say something the entire league would be on his ass. They should take away his voting privileges.

  • @Beljk0
    @Beljk0 Před 10 měsíci +15

    Funny thing is knowing Jokić's personality I think he was even glad he didn't win an MVP, too much of a hassle for him 😅

  • @devonceylor9244
    @devonceylor9244 Před 7 měsíci +4

    For some reason the NBA and its swarm of media personalities have been and continue to be extremely reluctant to embrace The Joker as what he is. The greatest basketball player on the planet earth today.

  • @razzaus1570
    @razzaus1570 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Rings speak louder than MVP trophies.

  • @georgebudimir7801
    @georgebudimir7801 Před 10 měsíci +13

    It looks as if the NBA's MVP voting system has gone the way of the Oscars voting system. Maybe it's time to take it away from the sportscasters and especially, Kendrick Perkins, who is obviously biased, and turn the MVP voting process over to people who are not only knowledgeable about the game of basketball, but honest as well.

  • @thomascieslak7956
    @thomascieslak7956 Před 10 měsíci +5

    It was all about race,everyone knows that, it's sad

  • @iAmToxxiic
    @iAmToxxiic Před 10 měsíci +15

    The thing about Jokic is his team needed him, he was valuable for his team, Joels team didnt really need him to win.

    • @zachmontminy
      @zachmontminy Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hilarious that you say this garbage when the reason ya boy won is because Murray carried down the stretch of every game.

    • @stevenleblanc8146
      @stevenleblanc8146 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Jamal Murray is a beast but no one carries every single game whether it's the entire game or just down the stretch. 14 and 15 points agaimst the Heat in the last two games shows that clearly. Ofc you're not actually stupid enough to believe that nonsense, you either want to troll or hate.

    • @jevislife5675
      @jevislife5675 Před 7 měsíci

      You clearly weren't watching any Sixers game

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus Před 7 měsíci +2

    And now you know what I don't respect any media awards.

  • @khoahthong4434
    @khoahthong4434 Před 10 měsíci +21

    these media people are stupid. if a player deserves to win the MVP, just vote him as the MVP. the context will be that there is a lack of competition, or just that the guy who won the MVP the previous year continued (improved) upon his phenomenon game. what's so difficult or wrong about it?
    basketball players always improve. by giving another player the MVP, it means that that particular player not only outplayed the previous MVP, he outplayed the improved reigning MVP. i don't think they did, especially in the cases mentioned on this video.

  • @Ginag9232
    @Ginag9232 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Joker was robbed

  • @ericbritchie
    @ericbritchie Před 7 měsíci +4

    If MVP voters get bored and vote for someone else, just because they don't want to vote for the best player again, then its the voters or system that needs to be changed.

  • @JorgeFlores-ox4pr
    @JorgeFlores-ox4pr Před 10 měsíci +8

    Yes we all know the 2023 MVP was stolen by a group of people with no credibility.

  • @josephcorbin8073
    @josephcorbin8073 Před 9 měsíci +5

    "a 61 year old Al Horford" 😂😂

  • @travisjazzbo3490
    @travisjazzbo3490 Před 10 měsíci +37

    If MVP voting was legit, Jordan would have been the MVP like 12 times

    • @csuszi11
      @csuszi11 Před 6 měsíci

      indeed

    • @gordonschiff3621
      @gordonschiff3621 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Not in any year when Bird was playing too. Celtic stats pre and post Bird make the point. Still I agree with your point in general.

    • @xXKayn3Xx
      @xXKayn3Xx Před 5 měsíci +3

      Lol no

    • @Ikesquad
      @Ikesquad Před 4 měsíci

      No, not even close, he wasn't voted that often because its not the best player, it's the most valuable regular season player for a team, Jordan SHOULD have gotten a 3 peat MVP no doubt, but its because when your on a superteam, you become less valuable, bc your team can win without you.

    • @josephle2381
      @josephle2381 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hell no

  • @robotube7361
    @robotube7361 Před 6 měsíci +5

    There is nobody like Jokic. He embodies everything a human being should be. At least in public.

  • @dflowhoops
    @dflowhoops Před 9 měsíci +6

    Great editing, great commentary, great analysis and great audio. Subscribed

  • @gr33dyglutton
    @gr33dyglutton Před 6 měsíci +2

    It's a real shame when haters get in the way of recognizing greatness.

  • @arsa4fun
    @arsa4fun Před 8 měsíci +25

    Like Novak Djokovic, Nikola Jokic would reach greatness and insane pump in news IF HE WAS NOT FROM SERBIA, but what Djokovic said , this wins make win even better, that person from such a small orthodox Christian country reach such a high level of sportsmanship! Idemoooo breeeee bravo 👏 🇷🇸 ❤

    • @randomfaca
      @randomfaca Před 7 měsíci

      always the victims you poor Serbs... maybe if you didn't go to fucking war with everyone of your neighbors people wouldn't hate you as much

    • @neilbrons529
      @neilbrons529 Před 6 měsíci

      yeah but djokovic is the best player ever and jokic is no where close. it's just not a fair comparison

    • @arsa4fun
      @arsa4fun Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@neilbrons529 yea but you got my point. Nikola has incredible numbers in nba and yes agree that Novak is different level of success for sure

    • @pablosnackbar6417
      @pablosnackbar6417 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@neilbrons529True, but Jok is only 28 and just entering his prime. Had he won 3 MVP in a row (and whatever else he achieves in the next 5-8 years) he could be considered the greatest big of all time. Early days my friend.

    • @dilididli2274
      @dilididli2274 Před 2 měsíci

      I don't buy that argument since everybody love Jokic, Djoko just happened to come after two of the most loved tenis player of all time with an unlikable personality.

  • @dondee5439
    @dondee5439 Před 10 měsíci +11

    One consolation is that every time Nikola and Embiid face each other in future games we will be shown by results who is truly the NBA MVP. He who laughs last will laugh longest.

    • @artvallejos1460
      @artvallejos1460 Před 10 měsíci +5

      the one with the most Championships will laugh last.
      Jokic ' - 1
      embiid - 0

    • @davemartino5997
      @davemartino5997 Před 10 měsíci

      Joker will school those fools so keep dreaming what are like like 13 years old? 🤡

  • @JayS64
    @JayS64 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Wow 2:23 those are really his 23' stats?!! Never heard of this guy, but it's no wonder why his team won the ship and why he should have won MVP.

  • @jerickdomingo7794
    @jerickdomingo7794 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Our hearts know who is REAL MVP ❤❤

  • @patientzero291
    @patientzero291 Před 10 měsíci +26

    Should the NBA go for a player and media members vote for who wins the awards? I feel like the words of Perkins suggestive comment about the MVP race played heavily on swaying the voting process during the season.

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Players aren’t exactly immune to various biases they just might have some different ones. IDK it would have changed anything in this last MVP race given Jokic was picked last in the All Star game. He doesn’t play the game outside the game and that could easily affect voting from players

  • @dukaivan
    @dukaivan Před 10 měsíci +6

    0:20 0:41 two legendary Nikola Jokic moments

  • @GrahfisLacan
    @GrahfisLacan Před 5 měsíci +2

    The way Jokic played off his NBA finals win was a great FU to all those who dismissed him.

  • @PeteKay
    @PeteKay Před 10 měsíci +12

    I like Embiid for his contributions but there was no comparison. Too, after he got the MVP it was painful to watch him play so softly, like an injured sloth. I blame Harden lol. Oh, Maxi is a joy to watch hustle -- I hope he grows into the superstar he appears to be.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      THAT MEANS OLAJUWON AND ADMIRAL ARE BETTER THAN MJ BECAUSE JORDAN ONLY HAD 33 PPG LIKE EMBIID WHILE BEST STATS IN LEAGUE HAD HAKEEM AND ROBINSON EVERY YEAR. NICE TO ADMIT THAT OLAJUWON IS GOAT. JORDAN NOT GREAT HE ONLY SCORE LIKE EMBIID 33 PPG

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      I LIKE HOW KEVON LOONEY SWEPT JOKIC. HE SHOULD RETURN 2 MVPS HE GOT SWEPT BY KEVON LOONEY 2 YEARS IN FIRST ROUND

    • @WolfPrincessTalia
      @WolfPrincessTalia Před 10 měsíci

      @zzzvain2876 Will you, pretty please, stop shouting? Caps off.

  • @Findyification
    @Findyification Před 10 měsíci +7

    HE IS WHITE
    there

  • @KiMLoKO1
    @KiMLoKO1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some thing happened to Ronnie Coleman in 2006 when Jay Cutler won Mr. Olympia, they just gave Cutler the win because Ronnie was winning every year and he "would've won" if Ronnie wasn't there.

  • @aubreyrobin
    @aubreyrobin Před 8 měsíci +2

    There should be best stat mvp awards and people's choice mvp award

  • @BenDover-rd8qz
    @BenDover-rd8qz Před 10 měsíci +15

    I liked how every body wanted Joel to win it and now AFTER Jokic won they say he got robbed 😑

    • @user-si9kv2cm3j
      @user-si9kv2cm3j Před 7 měsíci

      No only a certain group beloved Joel deserved this mvp

  • @timl9724
    @timl9724 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Hakeem was better in '93. He probably should've won back to back MVP and DPOY in '93 and '94. He carried easily the worst supporting cast in the League to championship contention both seasons, just that he won it all in the second one. Sure Jordan had the edge on offense, but Hakeem was barely just behind on offense and much better defensively. It was Hakeem, then Jordan, then Barkley in '93, in terms of best player. But since Barkley had the best record thing going for him, his MVP was well justified.

    • @davemartino5997
      @davemartino5997 Před 10 měsíci

      Hakeem got smoked in 86

    • @timl9724
      @timl9724 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@davemartino5997 I was commenting specifically on the video. As for '86, Hakeem was a second year player, yet he raised his stats in the playoffs and took the Rockets to the Finals. The Celtics won 67 games that year, one of the greatest teams all-time, yet 23 year old Hakeem took them to a 6 game championship series. "Got smoked" he did not.

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Phoenix had a gray team i remember rooting for Barkley to win a championship

    • @angelackerman7865
      @angelackerman7865 Před 9 měsíci

      @@timl9724you seem to forget Houston beat lakers to play Boston. They got beat pretty bad . As for second year excuse Bird won in his second year In 81 against the rockets

    • @timl9724
      @timl9724 Před 9 měsíci

      @@angelackerman7865 i didn't forget anything. That '86 Rockets team was deep and talented. Unfortunately their best scoring guards were suspended the following year for drugs, and Sampson started his rapid decline from injuries. They basically had to start all over, building around Hakeem.
      As for the '81 Rockets, that was the flukiest run to the Finals in NBA history. Somehow that sub-500 team rallied around Moses Malone to take it all the way to game six against Bird in the Finals. The fact Bird needed 6 games against a sub-500 team, demonstrates how not-ready Bird was. Bird scored 6 points per game less and 6 percentage points less on field goals in the Finals compared to his regular season numbers, leaving Finals MVP Maxwell to carry the leadership load on offense and defense.
      Magic missed more than half that 80-81 regular season for the Lakers, so they missed getting the first round bye. That first round upset by the Rockets over the Lakers was a huge influence on the eventual change of the playoff format away from the best 2 of 3 first round. It also put Paul Westhead on a short leash the following season, where Riley took over early on.

  • @Sash77....oldmanradic
    @Sash77....oldmanradic Před 5 měsíci +2

    Bro i remember 1993 clear as day. I'm the biggest Jordan fan but Barkley had a monster year that year. When Barkley came to suns he dramatically changed the whole team leading them to a finals in that year. The rest of the suns players fed of Barkleys energy in 93. Barkley deserved that MVP he was amazing that year. MJ was amazing as well but it wasn't a suprise to most people back in 93 that Barkley won it. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story of a players worth.

  • @3flyte_3flyte
    @3flyte_3flyte Před 10 měsíci +2

    We need a players' vote for MVP. The ones who actually play have a better perspective. Is Mark Jackson's mvp decision racist?

  • @onlythetruth3563
    @onlythetruth3563 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Black privilege

    • @duanerichard
      @duanerichard Před měsícem

      Looks like someone has a victim mentality I see. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!

  • @SubZero_4553
    @SubZero_4553 Před 7 měsíci +5

    We all know exactly why Jokic didn't win the MVP despite deserving it. Over to you Kendrick Perkins for your thoughts!

  • @Toretto16
    @Toretto16 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Well, if nothing else, Joker joined the company of elite NBA stars who got robbed for MVP, and Embid cried out his MVP title.

  • @snorkman2
    @snorkman2 Před 4 měsíci +1

    America still has not changed... I remember Hakeem Olajuwon was always being over looked because he wasn't homegrown, At the time only a few fans/commentators recognized his greatness! After the dust settled I think people come to realize, Hey man that guy was just special and should of had more MVP's, DPOY's and All-star appearances.

  • @saifabdullah9249
    @saifabdullah9249 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I think that it was no mistake at all if they choose any of those players to win the MVP this season, they are both phenomenal players no question about that . Although the reason for picking Embiid over Jokic was a very silly one (the voters had got tired from choosing Jokic) this is very silly and stupid .. if you saw someone who deserves an award you have to give him your vote and that's it it's very simple ..

  • @jeremyjackson8288
    @jeremyjackson8288 Před 10 měsíci +11

    And somehow Mark Jackson was able to keep his job while my guy Van Gundy was fired. Bring JVG back!!

  • @lanksey1606
    @lanksey1606 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Embidds MVP should have an asterisk next to it.

  • @eliasadam2345
    @eliasadam2345 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As a Sun's fan it was hard to watch that series. Jokic was just unstoppable and there wasn't anything the team could do to slow him down. The Suns only won those games in the series by playing perfect and some of the other Nugget players beside Jokic not giving their best effort. The Suns have the misfortune of keep running into the best player in the league during the post seasons.

  • @northernguy8860
    @northernguy8860 Před 9 měsíci +3

    'Voter Fatigue' is code for rigging the result. The league wants to spread the rewards around.

  • @josejoao1621
    @josejoao1621 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If I remember correctly, people who did not want him to earn three MVPs in a row, accuse the league of “racism”, in a way to affect the voting. Truly dumb, and a nasty thing to say. They robbed him of what he deserved…

  • @danielgriffin9489
    @danielgriffin9489 Před 7 měsíci +2

    he's this good and basketball isn't even his first passion.

  • @nubian-4663
    @nubian-4663 Před 10 měsíci +3

    That MF left joker off his MVP ballot and to add insult to injury they have him calling all nuggets playoff games! Seriously?! That apology is BS. Take his vote away 😡

  • @halftime7485
    @halftime7485 Před 10 měsíci +8

    The nba is rigged man jokic should have definitely win it after seen this vid

  • @chrisbrooks6756
    @chrisbrooks6756 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The fact that everybody BUT Jokic cares about this stuff, makes me like him, even more.

  • @M4551kt
    @M4551kt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not a basketball reference, but y'all will get the point: Ian McEwan was asked if he thought about winning the literature nobel prize as many thought he was a strong candidate. His answer was somewhat along the lines of: "I prefer to belong on the list of authors that have not been awarded the prize such as Borges, Chekhov, Joyce, Kafka, Lawrence, Nabokov, Orwell, Proust, Tolstoy and others".
    Prizes will never be worth more than titles, they are off-court voting BS and sports use them so their oscar-like event draws attention and polemics. It's just not relevant nor reliable.

  • @alanaldpal950
    @alanaldpal950 Před 10 měsíci +10

    The MVP award does not always go to the most deserving player, otherwise Jordan would have 10 MVPs

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      THAT MEANS OLAJUWON AND ADMIRAL ARE BETTER THAN MJ BECAUSE JORDAN ONLY HAD 33 PPG LIKE EMBIID WHILE BEST STATS IN LEAGUE HAD HAKEEM AND ROBINSON EVERY YEAR. NICE TO ADMIT THAT OLAJUWON IS GOAT. JORDAN NOT GREAT HE ONLY SCORE LIKE EMBIID 33 PPG

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      U DO REALUIZE U R DERANGED. BECAUSE JORDAN CAN ONLY SCORE LIKE EMBIID 33 PPG

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Před 10 měsíci

      JORDAN DID SAME EVERY SEASON LIKE EMBIID 33 PPG. PLUS LESS BLOCKS REBOUNDS. U JUST ADMIT EMBIID SHOULD HAVE 11 MVPS BECAUSE HE HAVE BETTER STATS THAN MJ IN THOSE 6 FAKE MVPS

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 Před 9 měsíci

      Same with LeBron

    • @alanaldpal950
      @alanaldpal950 Před 9 měsíci

      @@PIP...33 There is more than just stats. Jordan was more valuable to the league and it’s success than any other player for most of his career

  • @anatolyalperovich9069
    @anatolyalperovich9069 Před 10 měsíci +2

    fatigue lmao. they can't give him third mvp cause the he is already one of five greatest

  • @rockonileva
    @rockonileva Před 9 měsíci +10

    Nah.. This was not just voter fatigue...
    This was, IMO, the media not being able to accept a person the is as far as possible of being the portrait of the league being put on the same tier as legends, and above other legends.
    Gilbert Arenas summed it up perfectly on a podcast. Jokic is not the player that brings attention to the league, he's not the player that sell products (being the NBA the most important of them). The media didn't lose a second to criticize Jokic for THE WAY THAT HE CELEBRATED the title... They wanted so hard to highlight he's the wrong person to be on the spotlight that they weren't able to detect irony...
    Jokic being dominant is also challenging the way that the USA thinks basketball. They way that they develop their players. His game is so fundamentally sound that it seems kinda weird watching some guys playing. And he does this being as unatractive to the viewers / kids / "analysts" as possible.
    BUT... about having help... well IDK... Maxey is not a bonafide star, and Harden is past his prime. The sixers are a total MESS, and Jokic is part of one of the most cohesive starting 5 on the league (Yeeeeah... Jokic is part of the reason this roster is SO cohesive. He elevates the level of his teammates). Murray was as leahal as he was before his injury, KCP was a match made in heaven for the team, Gordon was as well, MPJ is developing well. The bench was working well. There's no way Embiid had more help, sorry.

    • @markovak007
      @markovak007 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well, in regular seasons 76s supporting cast was better, as the record without Embiid/Jokic shows. The main reason was that Murray struggled coming after injury for a big chunk of regular season.

  • @bookaufman9643
    @bookaufman9643 Před 10 měsíci +13

    I agree that Jokic should have won the MVP but I think your comparison of the teammates is pretty far off. At this stage I would rather have Murray than Harden and it's pretty close between Michael Porter Jr and Tyrese Maxey. I also take Gordon over Harris. You could go back and forth on these but I'm just saying it's pretty close as far as teammates go.😊

    • @markovak007
      @markovak007 Před 9 měsíci +2

      While I agree with you about playoff roster comparison between the Nuggets and 76s, in regular season 76s roster was clearly better. Murray struggled returning to form and reached the top form just in time for the play-off run. The team's record without Jokic/Embiid confirms the observation.

    • @nndayo6408
      @nndayo6408 Před 4 měsíci +1

      On paper, 76ers is way more stacked than the nuggets. They had 2 legit stars as well as borderline all star players as role players. Jokic simple makes his team way better. Fuck embiid

  • @LiveLongAndProsperHonestly
    @LiveLongAndProsperHonestly Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Gordon disrespect in this video is pretty bad dude. Joker and Gordon do some crazy work together.

  • @Grzelsonable
    @Grzelsonable Před 9 měsíci +2

    Fans award players with MVPs. Not media, so called specialists and analytics likes of Perkins and other ESPN clowns.

  • @thatslife208
    @thatslife208 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Nice video

  • @keithcampbell4873
    @keithcampbell4873 Před 9 měsíci +4

    we all know why Jokic didn't win it.

  • @andrejpetrovic8240
    @andrejpetrovic8240 Před 3 měsíci +1

    When you see the injustice in front of your eyes and you cant do anything about that. Sad for the humanity!

  • @juni4276
    @juni4276 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Jokic had a fantastic year in which he almost averaged a triple-double in the center position, he had more triple doubles in the playoffs than anyone in NBA history and he involves every player on every play. Joel embiid did not deserve the MVP award. Joel embiid average almost 33 points per game yet what people are not talkin about is that James harden led the league in assists and five of those assists-per-game went to Embiid. So technically his average should be 10 points less. Embiid didn't average more and rebounds then jokic did and his overall game was not on par with jokic at all.

  • @Mazeingpower
    @Mazeingpower Před 10 měsíci +3

    they should use AI to tali all the stats and that would give the true mvp

  • @unfixablegop
    @unfixablegop Před 10 měsíci +9

    Jokic did get robbed by the "white guys have it easy" schtick. But otoh, in the 2 years that Jokic did get the MVP, he wasn't such a lock as he should have been this year. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, and he's coming for more.

  • @pablosnackbar6417
    @pablosnackbar6417 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Simple solution; Make MVP voted by the players again like it was when Wilt and Bill won their 3 in a row.

  • @dococ3272
    @dococ3272 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Mvp should always go to the guy that carry’s his team on his back to the accolades, no one did it like Jokic this year. This is one of the very few times where I disagree with the mvp choice.

  • @ProSportBasketball
    @ProSportBasketball  Před 2 měsíci +3

    Watch more (NEW) VIDEOS on Nikola Jokic: czcams.com/play/PL41bHPjP_E7tkTTKowUUeRp9Vma3txkid.html&si=Ad4XodAhcy1MNYg0

  • @tanjatrnavac3710
    @tanjatrnavac3710 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Jokić reall MVP Embid so far away From Jokić 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸 Srbija do Tokija

  • @elbruces
    @elbruces Před 8 měsíci +2

    What I'm learning from this is that the MVP award is essentially meaningless.

  • @shermankeith6826
    @shermankeith6826 Před měsícem +1

    The 90’s and 80’s didn’t care about analytics

  • @Michael-vn2jj
    @Michael-vn2jj Před 10 měsíci +4

    I agree with the sentiment but AG is better than Tobias lol it ain't even close. I think 76ers would swap in a heartbeat.
    And Jamal Murray is better than present day Harden and Maxey

    • @KennnnyT
      @KennnnyT Před 10 měsíci +3

      Everyone was trashing AG back in Orlando and before this championship run lol im glad everyones perspective on him has changed since he expanded his game to show up in the playoffs

    • @Michael-vn2jj
      @Michael-vn2jj Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@KennnnyT as an ORL fan, I always loved his game, was sad to see him go.
      Problem in ORL for AG was no consistency or development. Coaching staff changed every year and they didn't really have good leadership.
      AG always been a high motor guy who gives you effort, just needed direction and leadership.
      He's way better than Tobias currently though, not even close there.

    • @stevenleblanc8146
      @stevenleblanc8146 Před 10 měsíci

      Better than present day Maxey but to be fair, Maxey is only 22 or 23, whatever. Murray is most certainly not better than present day James Harden. That's wild af.

    • @Michael-vn2jj
      @Michael-vn2jj Před 10 měsíci

      @@stevenleblanc8146 id pick Maxey if you let me pick one to start a franchise, easy.
      The context of this is the postseason help for Embiid / Jokic.... This last postseason Murray was the best overall of the three, Harden had huge games but was extremely inconsistent and a defensive liability.
      If you let me have one for a postseason run right now, I'm taking Murray, for future it's Maxey and best player all time of the three is clearly Harden.. context of my comment though was specifically this postseason help for the two... AG was stellar and so was Jamal.

    • @stevenleblanc8146
      @stevenleblanc8146 Před 10 měsíci

      @Michael-vn2jj The Nuggets were a great team. Anyone could step up in any game the way they all played together as a unit. That's why they were so good. Murray is every bit as inconsistent as Harden. They both had some big games and would follow up with a game where they were off or slightly off. Harden is a better option if Embiid goes down than Murray is if Jokic is injured or doesn't play. That's not to discredit Murray. He's a beast. Harden is better, at least for now. In terms of who meshes with who better, it's pretty close to call. Murray and Jokic pick and roll is reminiscent of Stockton/Malone, just a different version, slightly different play style. It's a scary combo. Harden can free up space and he can feed Embiid. Jokic/Murray had more time to develop chemistry even though Murray suffered the ACL tear. They might have the edge because of it, idk. It's apples and oranges. The Sixers don't play the same way the Nuggets do. If you reversed roles, assuming Harden was 100% dedicated to winning and bought into the system, he could very easily make the offense even better than it already was. Or he could just be a terrible fit. That's not something that's actually easy to tell beforehand, even though a lot of talking heads play out those types of hypothetical scenarios as if anything was guaranteed.
      Only thing that's really been proven for sure is that Harden is a better player.

  • @slavyslav
    @slavyslav Před 10 měsíci +3

    Embiid deserved an mvp but it did come off as a make a wish mvp due to Perkins and Jackson. Sorry other people fucked it over for both embiid and jokic.

  • @jaymetcalfe8540
    @jaymetcalfe8540 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have no respect for any "Basketball Fan," who calls Nikola Jokic style of basketball boring.

  • @bigsean6045
    @bigsean6045 Před 4 měsíci +2

    They just forgot what MVP actually stands for

  • @Ric-E...Ricardo
    @Ric-E...Ricardo Před 10 měsíci +3

    Embid won the mvp like Biden won the election.

    • @artvallejos1460
      @artvallejos1460 Před 10 měsíci

      stole it

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 Před 9 měsíci

      Trump would be better for me than Biden but neither are exactly great people

  • @SamuelHydeker
    @SamuelHydeker Před 4 měsíci +2

    It was stupid to change the mvp voting from the players to a bunch of bums standing on the sidelines and this is one example of the problems it causes. Not that the NBA higher ups care

  • @masulubonak9275
    @masulubonak9275 Před měsícem +1

    If they recognized nikola, evryone will think leflop wra has ended and nikola is actually replacing leflops era if there is anything like that haha