Understanding The AeroPress (Episode #2)
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Episode #1: The AeroPress: • The AeroPress (Episode...
The next video in the series will be the Ultimate AeroPress Technique...
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Intro 0:00
1. Brew Time And Extraction 1:15
2. Stirring 3:42
3. Stir vs Swirl 5:20
4. Blooming 6:39
5. PressingTo The Hiss 8:59
6. Dose/Ratio And Extraction 10:55
7. Inverted Vs The Plunger Vacuum 13:04
8. Pressing Pressure And Extraction 16:13
9. Preheating And Brew Temperature 22:40
10. Rinsing The Paper: 26:18
11. Concluding Thoughts: 28:01
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You're turning my world on its head, James. Rinsing the paper doesn't matter. Blooming or not doesn't matter. Inverted or not doesn't matter. Going down to the hiss or not doesn't matter. Popular internet coffee wisdom has led me astray up until this point and I'm shook.
Basically it's impossible to go wrong as long as you have good coffee and a good ratio! 👍
I've been doing a 1:10 ratio, inverted, with bloom, pressing until the hiss. Tomorrow that changes :D
This! Imagine how much time this knowledge saves you in your lifetime!
@@djentlover I mean, the brew time probably doesn't change but at least you don't have a load of little extra things to do while it's brewing like wetting the paper or weighing two different amounts of water.
The world of coffee is neck deep in pretentiousness. The best skill in the world of coffee is to develop a good way to filter out the pretentiousness without being rude.
„Hoffman. James Hoffmann. I‘ll have an AeroPress, swirled, not stirred.“
our profile pics are almost the same
My thoughts exactly
Underrated Comment
James, I've been a coffee drinker for about 75 years. I grind my beans and use an Aeropress for the most part. Your series came on quite by accident and I'm really glad it did. Although I truly enjoy my coffee, I'm afraid I'm not very scientific about brewing it. I so enjoyed your videos and your banter. I guess you probably would not prefer my coffee but you gave me a smile and a time of relaxation. Thanks for coming into my home this day,
11 years of religiously inverting, pre-heating, and non-hissing right down the drain...
And yet I'm grateful that someone finally took the systematic approach and answered some of the biggest questions that keep me awake at night.
Thank you!
By believing it made a difference it probably did, even though maybe it didn't. LOL
i truly believe the inversion method has it's place. It offers a lot of control that you might not have otherwise
nah, what keeps you awake at night is drinking too much coffee during the day...
I invert because I use a metal filter and it starts percolating before I'm ready.
I might still invert to avoid that dripping. Maybe a control freak side of me. But hey, just so happened the thing popped out on a flip for me last week :'D So yeah, it was interesting to hear that detail about how the rapid gas release on the flip might contribute to that. I'll be more careful from now on :'D
Find you a CZcamsr who makes a 30 minute video with no mid video ads.
Bernadette Banner also loves her viewers this much.
@@lore_house LOL so funny to see her name mentioned here. I had a hard time deciding if I was going to watch the lace insertion video or areopress video first! Laura at Garden Answer won out, but I don't begrudge her the mid video ads because I just adore her.
Not all youtubers are as well funded by patreon backers. James could run this channel completely ad free.
26:53 Best part of the whole video!
@@edwardchester1 If you mean in video sponsors, then yes. But no youtube video will ever be ad free, Google puts ads on videos whether or not the creator monetizes them. Only solution is premium or adblock. The creator has to monetize and choose where ads go so they won't automatically be put into the middle of the video.
“That is wildly unpleasant!”
My ears were not ready for such an outburst. There could have been children listening!
funny.
Top end of british insults
Hmmm no na yayuum thent da byyy
The amount of James Hoffmann videos I’ve watched this week makes me want to go back to my therapist and discuss
I missed lunch today because I didn’t realize it was a 30 min video... I couldn’t stop watching ii
Me: “I don’t have time for a 30 minute aeropress video.”
Me 30 minutes later: “You know you don’t actually have to rinse an aeropress filter.”
I don't even own one... but now I know
Haha
I just skipped through to the highlights. As much as I love this guy, I already figured out how to make it a 5 minute process so I’m not watching for 30.
Yay for no more burnt fingers!
Let me know when we get to the episode where we load the aeropress with donuts.
A half hour AeroPress video? Yes please!
Jayson from In the Micks drinks cawfee!! wot!!?!
Coffee-drinking music producers unite!
We are expecting a special mix from you ;)
AEROPRESS FOREVER!
yess, one of my 2 favorite yt ppl
A moment’s silence for the inverted, bloom, rinse paper, no hiss method. RIP
lololol
I still think inverted is better and gives more control (and pleasure)
and blooming reminds me more of doing a pour over so I like it
and if u do inverted, u GOTTA rinse paper (unless u use a mesh filter)
hiss tho, that is bonkers
It's not nuclear fusion, just making coffee.
@@techguy9023 get out
@@stonecat676 all I hear is DENIAL ;D
The 4 stages of Aeropress ownership:
1) Make the coffee like it says on the box.
2) Start getting fancy use better coffee and better technique.
3) Go to extremes, grind size, papers, brew times, water temps, upside-down press, swirling the whole kaboodle.
4) Realize that actually one scoop, fill it with water, wait 60 seconds, press makes is the best repeatable cup.
1 scoop, fill to which number?
@@aVeganMia I fill to the top - one big cup of coffee, I found that adding water after made it a bit weak. I am using a large coffee cup...
How much is a scoop??
I just use the scoop that comes with the Aero press@@reallivebluescat
I know its not a great measurement of 'weight' as the grind will affect the amount of coffee....but TBH 17g versus 19.5g of coffee doesn't make a huge difference to my tastebuds
You just never know when James is going to sneak a ‘sluuurp’ in there... keeps you on your toes 😰😂
that is the worse part of the video
Misophonia hell gang reporting in
I was so surprised he cut it out in several places
@@brickonator Fellow misophonia sufferer reporting
@@gordanbabic8028 you're the *worst part of the comments
" this hiss thing...I don't think it's a thing." The statement that saved more marriages than couples therapy in 2021.
When I heard that, I came here to see if it was funny to someone
@@Themurlio e. N
Although it's definitely a thing... Haha
i don't get it
James Hoffman is a treasure. I have learned more about coffee from his CZcams channel than any other source.
I whole heartedly agree!
@@thadsgudenuff Me, too!
And I've only been watching him for an hour and a half! What a lot of life I've spent not knowing any of this stuff. And I LOVE coffee!!
Today is the start of the rest of my life.
Precisely this, he has encouraged me to explore the wide and beautiful world of coffee and possibly enter the industry in my own way. If someday I am successful in the coffee world, he will be one of the people I wholeheartedly thank.
I know this is an older video but man… EVERYTHING about this is absolutely incredible. The amount of knowledge and information, the down to earth approach, the easy to understand terminology, the honesty, the myth-busting and scientific approach, the straight to the point editing, the scenario, even down to the subtle lighting and the crisp and clear audio…
It’s no wonder this channel’s got almost 2M subscribers. This is a masterclass on how to make a CZcams video.
Hoffman, over the course of a year, has almost single handedly taken me from merely someone who's interested in coffee to a near fanatic. Possibly, changing the course of my life forever. What an absolute legend this man is. There are many people on the internet who.. frankly havent earned the amount of money they have. Hoffman, in my opinion, deserves every damn freedom eagle or british cup of tea (pick your currency) he earns.
You forgot British accent
bro this video has literally changed my whole aeropress workflow 💀 no inversion, no bloom, I can hiss now, haha here’s to faster cups of aeropress lads!
Just wait until the ultimate technique is to immerse for four minutes, then press softly. Also use two spoons to remove scum before inserting the plunger.
I'm certainly going to revisit some discarded techniques based on the test results in this video.. 😏
@@emmanuelnyberg2855 I've actually tried skimming the top off before in an aeropress because of his French Press video lol. Pretty sure it made zero difference haha.
Do your own A B test
@@emmanuelnyberg2855 I'm a big advocate of the slow press as well. Otherwise liquid bypasses the filter through the slits. Curious to see if James noticed this and if it's part of his recipe
Dammnnn, James out here making us go full tilt. More accurate video title would be: Busting every Aeropress myth in 30 minutes
I use an AeroPress every morning for my coffee and I switched a couple years ago to a metal mesh filter to get away from buying paper filters. I wouldn't mind seeing a break down of how alternative filters change the brew, especially against the standard paper. Thanks!
PLEASE try an oil based filter, it will change your life FOREVER
@@marvin19966 do they add 15hp
I bought a metal mesh filter as well and I as well as my friends found it to be much more difficult to use, I think the grounds block the mesh holes and create a vacuum, maybe it'd have better luck with less fine grounds.
If you found it works that's great, but I'll give my warning to anyone considering it.
I'm still looking for an answer on whether the metal filter changes the brew much. I suspect it does, for the worse. But I've been using one for 5 years...
@@jsmith1025 Metal filter let's more sediment through, making the coffee more chalky/ muddier. I like the texture and consider it an upgrade for my tastes.
This guy approaches coffee like a science experiment, and I'm here for it.
as a habitual aero press inverter, filter-rinser, and non-hiss-presser, you have made me question everything. thanks for this one, king
The recipe seems to be; finer grind, no invert, boiled (or 80c) water. Uncomfortably closer to “bang it in and enjoy it”.
Perfectly put!
I'm in exactly the same boat 😂
So each by themselves do not make a difference, but what about all 3 together? 🤔
For real, it's actually kind of a relief to know that I don't need to stress about EVERY little thing with the Aeropress.
You kinda know you’re a weird coffee person when a half hour video of James experimenting with an Aeropress is a great Saturday night!
Thanks James, that was fascinating.
A big advantage of the inverted method is that you can use your cup to both pour your hot water and press into, especially useful when camping with the aeropress.
Im a man of science and coffee. I love not just the principal but the collection of practiced ideas. I have always loved coffee and now buying precise instruments to get consistency. I believe their is always a % of "magic" to brewing that cant be understood or replicated. It's a blessing and a curse of being a coffee lover.
1. Cleaning/rinsing the aeropress between brews
2. Using 2 paper filters (for higher pressure, finer grinds)
3. Rinsing and reusing filters
Yes! I travel a lot so use the Go, well, on the go. I tend to reuse my filter paper for the duration of my stay wherever I may be. The only difference I notice is the resistance increases as the week goes on... But then my palate isn’t as professionally trained as Mr. Hoffmann’s
@@nickpugh8879 I rinse with very hot water (like brew temp) and reuse as well, as does Alan. I definitely notice an increase in resistance after 4-5 uses. Flavor is better in the first few uses, I think, but seems that after that, the flavor does not seem to progressively worsen. I thought it might be an "old coffee" flavor thing, but after watching this video now I wonder if it's the pressure itself changing the flavor.
In turkey aeropress championship, almost everybody was using 2 paper filters in their recipe. I hope James will play with it and share the toughts and his preferance.
I reuse at least 10 times. Until there is a hole in the paper. Why? Same reason I use the Aero press: I find it interesting! I rinse under a fairly high pressure spray stream. I do not notice significant resistance over time.
@@guydavids9402 single or double paper? I rinse mine with the kitchen sink sprayer after every use, then rinse before each use with some brew water like I would with a new filter.
Inventor: "Here's an easy to use coffee maker so you can have quick and kinda good coffee at home!"
James Hoffmann: Understanding the AeroPress (Episode #2)
Alan: You can brew espresso with aeropress
James: No you can't
My favourite part of the Aeropress instructions is to put a rounded scoop of coffee into the press. No grams, no levelling out, nothing.
@@mrpopenfresh I suppose it's the simplest recipe available and it's very forgiving. Obviously there are plenty better methods but with this you should get a drinkable coffee
@@MrVenom113 It's also functional. I've been using that method for over a year now, and until I get better precision equipment than what came in the box and my kettle, I don't see a need to change it.
@@MrDarren690 I’ve been using an Aeropress since my first deployment to Afghanistan in 2010. I’ve experimented with just about every method and found various different sweet spots including temp, filters, grind settings, steep times, inverted, etc. A decade of experience has instilled in me that the Aeropress is very much Marine proof, and that it is incredibly fault tolerant. The worst cups that James is brewing would still be incredibly good to anyone used to Folgers, K cups, or a coffee urn. Play around with your own coffee settings and decide what you like. My current favorite is a coarse grind, inverted, boiling water, cloth filter (from coffeesock), light stir (and pouring water to wash the coffee off of the stirrer back into the Aeropress), flip immediately over a cup, steep for 2 minutes, press with just the weight of my forearm until bottomed out (through the hiss). Add a small dollop of honey for taste, and a pinch of baking soda to turn down the acidity (due to health concerns).
An obsessively thorough, fiddly, and deep exploration of my go-to coffee maker is exactly what I needed.
30 minutes of comprehensive experimentation that circle around to... pretty much the manual. This was great :)
I really hope he hits the most important test: Aeropress vs The Bripe
That's rather a bit like comparing apples to socket wrenches, don't you think?
@@cardboardbard true.... but do you remember that beard 🧔??? I’d compare an apple and a socket wrench to see that again
@@TheFinalMB fair
Aeropress: "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru."
Bripe: "Nani?"
😂
I don't rinse the paper or bother with blooming (because I'm lazy) or invert (because I'm clumsy), I press through the hiss (easier cleanup) and brew for three minutes. Feeling relieved I don't suddenly have a compelling reason to change any of that up : )
Aeropress ia all about an easy, quality single cup of coffee. No need to change.
Yep, easier to clean.
This is the best Aeropress movie I've seen since The Aeropress Movie. 10/10
When I realized it was 2 am and I'm having insomnia tonight, it was so so nice to discover an hour and a half of James Hoffmann content, just on the AeroPress.
One of the best take-aways from this. You don't have to stress about getting distracted from you brew. It doesn't deteriorate if it goes longer, it just gets better - Winning :)
I forgot about a brew last week and probably left it for 10 minutes. I was surprised when it wasn't terrible
this is huge for me, i was always worried about letting it brew too long and end up felling rushed. its good to know i can just chill.
Imagine being Alan Adler and just creating a coffee toy to make yourself a cuppa Joe, and the thing turns into a worldwide competition, and a 30m review of extraction based on technique.
I sincerely doubt the creator of the Aeropress saw it as coffee toy..if you knew how long it took him to do it and his passion for better coffee you wouldn't say that
@@alejandrotapia5800 Yes, that was the joke, thank you very much for the clarification.
Alan recommends using 80degree water, which seems too low to brew coffee, but it tested to be the foolproof temperature. Genius.
@@thewowleader I didn't like that "joke".
Doesn't really make any sense unless you read it sincerely.
What is the comedy in someone putting lots of effort and engineering into a calibrated device only for the thing to be used in competitions?
What is the joke If that's the conceit of your comment?
Is it a reference that I'm not getting?
I love how the slurps were edited out, really nice job to whomever suggested and followed through with that.
In all these years of aeoropressing thousands of coffees, I finally found the video that speaks to my soul and addresses all my deep-rooted AeroPress-related anxieties and ponderings - Thank you James!
I would be interested to see a comparison between different filters such as a single aeropress filter, double aeropress filter, metal filters, metal and paper combo, fellow prismo and the aesir filter. It would also be interesting to see what difference you get by brewing with a small amount of your final water and diluting after pressing or using the full amount to begin with. Thanks for the thorough and informative video James!
He basically answered one. Brewing 15gr with 200 water or with 100 water... the one with more water used in brewing wins.
You could compensate the diluted one with grind size and steeping time and such .. but are the brews even comparable at that point?
I’ll echo the request for different filter experiments (though I think we can all try triangle experiments, if we have a friend to swap the bowls around). I’ve been using a paper filter in combination with the Prismo, just because I’m lazy and don’t want to figure out the right plunger-position for true immersion brewing. And... I’ve also tried a cloth filter with the original and Prismo bottom.
@@jorismak Yeah, he did a fast comparison between different ratios at 10:55 but he didnt dilute them to an equivalent strength before tasting. This way you cant make any statement about which method actually tastes better. It is obvious that the stronger cup also has more acidity. You cant make a judgement about which cup will be more acidic without actually diluting them to the right strength and tasting them.
@@Currywurst4444 you night have a point there. He also said that it wasn't extracted properly, and diluting it down isn't going to fix that. But you might prefer it. Test it yourself!
I just came here to say the same thing, different filters.
I was using paper filters at home and metal mesh filter while I am mobile.
This might not be a problem to anyone. However, I do travel on bike multiple days. It’s extra weight, and, most importantly, it is hard to store them in panniers or find them if I run out.
At some point during lockdown, I was out papers and thought it could be selfish to order only paper from Amazon (high volumes deliveries and not enough drivers etc) and started to use metal at home too.
Now I don’t even remember if there was a difference between two and I don’t think I put any effort to adjust to mesh filter.
I’m wondering about your experiences.
This might sound weird, but I'm so happy to see visual graphs instead of tables when comparing different quantities. Makes it so much easier to spot the trends. And I agree that that is way more interesting than the actual number itself.
So are you an Edward Tufte fan? If so, you’ll understand when I say that James Hoffman is the Edward Tufte of coffee.
@@TamarLitvot to be honest I’m not super familiar with his work specifically, but I agree with him that visual representation of data is very important and useful. And I see way to many people doing it poorly. Even “professionals” like scientists. It’s an underestimated thing. And I agree that James makes a lot of complicated concepts in coffee very easy to understand.
@@TommyWalker1991 Check out Tufte's first book --The Visual Display of Quantitative Information. It massively changed the way I did my work (I'm a researcher). And it's a fascinating read (despite the very dry title) with all sorts of great examples. It's actually a pleasure to read, not work.
I heard James whistle once when he was tasting. Now every time he tastes I’m on the edge of my seat. Literally one of the coolest/funniest things that exist in the coffee world for me.
I seem to remember that too
I’d be interested to see how these same concepts translate to cold brewing with the aeropress, or if it’s a completely different beast altogether! Love this series and how thorough you are with everything!
As for inversion brewing, a shout out to people who just enjoy the flip🤣
The high risk helps me wake up in the morning
It's my excuse for a "swirl" xD
I left the cult after the hot mess happened
It gives some excitement to the brew, making it taste better
Don't forget that he tested it without stirring process. I believe it would be so much water leaked down if he did stir the coffee thus changing the taste. Remember, you can't vacuum it while doing the stirring process.
Wonderful. I think this will be an iconic video in Aeropress folklore in years to come. You've addressed nearly all of the myths surrounding the Aeropress in a systematic way.
@@sneescampers With aeropress, pressure is a given, noone pushes the plunger down 1.5 bars. More like grind, temp, brew time, ratio
Love how scientifically and honestly you’ve analysed the different options! And it’s great to know that the simplest approach of aeropress brewing is as good as any other
What a great watch that was, loved it! Too many content creator would feel the need to hide their blind tasting "fails", glad to see your honesty shining!
I once forgot that I was brewing a coffee in aeropress and the brew was steeping for about 40 minutes. It was a pleasant surprise how tasty it was.
It’s not long before the water cools and the coffee settles enough to the point where extraction has effectively stopped.
Cold brewing does have something to it. Even if it didn't start that way.
Check out Sprometheus video where he treated the aeropress like a cold brew, he just let it drip until it finished and got nice results.
In my incremental steps where I brewed all the way up to 30min, I found out that after 10min there where no gain in letting it steep any longer, it’s also about that mark you typically start drinking in cupping. The 10min where the best absolute but the gain over a 4min brew where small, like very, very small and probably not worth the extra brew time. The biggest benefit seem to be that you can drink it almost immediately.
At a bakery, I'd load the portafilter before going home for 5 hours before the late shift.
So it pre-infused and was slow roasted until I pulled the shots at midnight.
Very nutty soft flavors.
Without access to an espresso machine, I use the AeroPress as a cheap stand-in for trying to get that strong coffee for my lattes, etc. You covered that briefly in a video a while ago, but it may be worth revisiting if you're looking for some sort of definitive series on ways to use an AeroPress.
Seconded. Would love to have a "200 ml coffee recipe" and a "strong coffee for cappucino recipe". Also some kind of grind size suggestion.
Yes, I use my AeroPress the same way and would love to see James take on the best way to get an espresso like brew out of an AeroPress as part of this series.
Just my little answer to this as someone who uses the flair and the AeroPress, there is a huge difference in taste(at least for light roasted natural coffees). So yes, you can get a strong coffee out of your AeroPress, but it's not at all like espresso. But I know your problem. So keep enjoying your strong AeroPress brews, and hopefully, you may be the owner of an espresso machine at some point. Cheers
@@maximiliantollner7940 Of course! I'm just a latte drinker hoping to make the best of a less than ideal situation.
Yeah, he did a fast comparison between different ratios at 10:55 but he didnt dilute them to an equivalent strength before tasting. This way you cant make any statement about which method actually tastes better.
Probably too late to be relevant, but in case you see this--when doing the pressure test, you mention it's impossible to really do a blind taste test. You neglected that fact that you could take the test literally and blindfold yourself! May be ideal to keep in mind for future tests, but color need not get in the way of good science. Love that you're actually testing your theories, adds a lot of trust!
Blind taste tasts where the subject is not blinded at all. 😂
Coming back to this video now that I finally got my Aeropress for my birthday. I love it! It's so much easier than pour overs and much faster and cleaner than a french press. Gonna have my third cup of sugarcane decaf today. Thanks for the great video James!
My only problem with not rinsing the paper is that sometimes when the paper is not stuck to the cap, it can move around and ruin the whole brew. It’s more to ensure the paper sticks rather than ‘papery tasting coffee’
Ditto. Sometimes the papers are _just_ cut to meet the edges, so they have to sit perfectly still during assembly. It's more like wetting than rinsing.
That's weird because I find after I rinse it tends to not sit flat. I have quite an old BPA press though.
Isn't it to also swell the paper fibres when brewing inverted?
@@frjfsiuojrsdug it’s not 100% flat, you might find some bubbles but as long as it sticks and doesn’t move around to ruin the brew the bubbles should be fine.
Agreed. We have often doubted that wet vs dry makes a difference in the taste, but we sure like that the filter stays in place!
I don’t know when I was more excited when I learned something new or when I saw James’s face when he was wrong. Thank you for showing all the process and not hiding the tests.
Thank you, James. From the bottom of my heart. You got me into this hobby and now I make cups that an old me would think were impossible to make. I did not know coffee could be this good.
The way you present information, your attitude and your dedication to get to the bottom of everything is a breath of fresh air. I just bought an Aeropress and was quite confused, read a lot of conflicting information. But you have singlehandedly broken all the myths, found out all the tips and presented a simple recipe that just works. Now I can make nice coffee with the Aeropress and maybe find something new that just I like. Once again, just thanks. You're awesome!
This is the first I’ve really seen you do a taste test with temperature, and it follows what I discovered for myself with espresso - you know how once you’ve dialed in, then try different pressure profiles, and often the differences are so subtle deciding which is better is almost like getting fitted at the optometrist, and it’s so hard to decide a or b; yet when I started to profile with temperature the differences were dramatic!
I could not be more satisfied with how in-depth and detailed this video is, thank you for all that work you've put in!
James: 18:43 "These bowls are all dramatically different"
Me: *couldn't tell when he cut between different cups* "I am an idiot."
What the world needs is another CZcams channel where all of Hoffman’s coffee experiments are recreated at scale, with large groups of up to 100 people performing each taste test and either corroborating or refuting his initial findings.
science!!
yes!! I need that. fuck, I really need that.. is next Friday good for you?
This this this. Ohmigoodness this.
I'm in
I just pictured a 100x sized aeropess being plunged by two people on ladders into a giant coffee vat
result = statistics and many many graphs!!!!!!
This guy's speech is surprisingly well paced for someone who drinks so much coffee.
But for real, genuinely very helpful video. I have an aeropress, I love it, and now I get to love it even more.
[BUT FOR REAL] GOD DAMM THAT JOKE WAS SO FUNNY. IT WAS SO FUNNY I KNEW IT WAS A JOKE
I find that it works well at 1.5 X playback speed.
Would love to see light roast vs. dark roast comparisons in brew methods for the aeropress and other brew methods
glad we got to hear the classic "No" from James Hoffmann when he has coffee he doesn't like
It's always a genuine treat and I suppose I sort of feel bad about that. But it's so entertaining.
19:46 there it is
I’m gonna put this no as my wake up alarm
@@aclonymous Not only the perfect timepoint for the audio but also the expression!
I appreciate how ambitious your Bripe placement is on the quick-access shelf back there.
When it comes to swirling, I found that it was easy to accidentally form a dome in the coffee bed when it rests, which only really becomes visible as a little oceanic volcano of coffee breaking through the brew water as you push. For that reason I switched to two gentle side-to-side shimmies at right angles to each other, and found that made for a more reliably even bed. Though the temptation to swirl is great...
Thanks mister Gaudoin!
Would be interesting to see the difference using multiple paper filters, metal filters, and some popular 3rd party filters like Aesir
I would also like to see that (Owner if Aesir here). Would be a good test, I think
+1 for a blind test on metal filters...!
I was hoping he would mention metal filters as an option and what positives (if any)/negatives. Maybe in future?
Please add the cloth filters into this experiment. Been very happy with coffeesock filters but want to know if that’s just my confirmation bias. I want Professor James to weigh in.
It's also interesting to try double filters as an alternative to aesir. I've seen that aesir filters are often used in championships so there must bo something in it... right?
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL. IT IS HAPPENING!
It's not happening. The video we all want is the ultimate aeropress technique. This isn't it. It IS an amazing video however.
@@inviktus1983 and I believe James said at the end, it isn’t really the “ultimate” technique, but a simple one and great technique with good results. Which I’m not complaining about.
I must say I fell out of love with my aeropress when I got my espresso machine but not just this video but the whole series so far have brought back the fun, and succes of using my aeropress again!
you a presser son
This is absolutely amazing. All those fable-like myths about inverted brewing, hiss vs. no hiss, all cleared up and sorta-scientifically (definitely nerdy enough) tested. I was in awe for the entirety of the video. Wow.
Awe? Seriously?
He makes my favorite CZcams content, hands down. It’s the one channel that genuinely improves my life.
Can't imagine how long it took him to make this video until I saw his signature Gatsby hair is gone at around 21 minutes mark
It was a two day shoot, with somewhere between 60 and 80 brews done for tasting and testing. I did not sleep well.
@@jameshoffmann And we're grateful 🙏
@@jameshoffmann - Thank you !
@@jameshoffmann you took 80 for the team. Thank you!
@@jameshoffmann ffs James, you didn't have to drink the entirety of those brews
I don't think I could take this degree of forensics about coffee from anyone but James. At the top of every profession, there is a James. Our palates thank him.
When I started brewing at home again, I'd long forgotten my Aeropress skills and "ideal" setup, which I hadn't used in more than a decade. Little did I realize that I'd spend hours watching Mr. Hoffman educate me on all aspects of espresso, even though very little of it will actually impact my own personal tastes (the nuances of any brewing technique tend to get lost when I pour the 6 oz of cocoa-infused steamed milk into what is now a mocha).
But my inner knowledge junkie just can't resist. 😁
I invert because I can stir the coffee slurry without potentially damaging the filter (sorry James, but spill risk factor is zero).
I slightly wet the filter just so it sticks inside the housing (and I re-use it for round #2).
I do a 2 minute extraction, with a swirl at the 1 minute mark.
I push most of the way through the hiss, stopping short of the puck itself.
Pop the puck. Rinse. Repeat.
Add milk mixture from frother. Top with whipped cream. Enjoy.
james answering his own question: that's a really good question!
Ahah yes i noticed that. Same as me playing tennis as praising myself - nicely played!!😊
What about a permanent metal filter vs a single-use paper filter? Hopefully, this will be covered in the next video!
Also want to see this. Big fan of the metal filter
This....please!
Good call! Along the same lines, there are attachments like the Fellow Prismo he could give a shot!
@@cdsprech James Hoffman has already done a video on the Fellow Prismo, just FYI :)
On top of that, I've seen recipes (and attempted them) with layered filters or paper-metal-paper and stuff like that. I'm sure there's a more general rule in this, but it would be good to see the difference it makes
Although I love all the detail regarding variables, the most telling observation you make is that it was not possible to track the best cup of coffee and best coffee maker through all rounds of the Championships. Still more to learn even from those we expect to have it dialed.
Hi,wow!no tipping now. One question not tested here is comparing the use of an 'able' stainless steel filter, I've used this from the outset as I found the papers fiddly. I would appreciate it if you my consider a comparison?thanks again. The comparables you explored might explain why sometimes I got an amazing brew and occasionally pretty ordinary!I will pay a little more attention to my routine! Tank you.
The phrase “The decision tree of Aeropress brewing…”, filled me with delight. You are da bomb, James.
James: Don't stress the numbers too much. We're just interested in trends
Also James: Just give me the grams Gordon! Give me the grams
Completely different topics
@@HsNiccoTutorial Yes, one is about coffee, where numbers matter very much. The latter is about cooking, where doing things by feel is much more acceptable. Carrots in grams, really?
but if we're putting those carrots into a cake, no one is surprised if we ask for a weight
Roughly about 0.17 grams
@@maartenbosmans9585 Ottolenghi does it all the time. I don't think it's weird to pass on a recipe where even the carrots are in grams if it matters enough. You can use this as a basis to vary on.
Regarding wetting the Aeropress paper disc, I personally prefer to wet the paper as it helps stick the paper to the plastic cap during the inverted method. Sometimes the dry paper can awkwardly fall into the aeropress when placing the cap on an inverted press :)
100% agree, but then there’s no difference in inverting anyway according to this video so I’m scrapping that idea and just going regular style with a, *gasp* dry filter paper! OMG I could have watched a 3 hour video on this subject !
@@nickpugh8879 I like to believe there's a "Slurper Cut" for Patreon subs :D
@@nickpugh8879 stop being annoying some of us like the inverted method because it works for us. No reason to GASP. My guy was just pointing out, in the manner of inverted brewing, wetting the paper matters. If that doesn’t apply to you there’s no reason to comment enjoy your method and well enjoy ours. There may not be a difference in extraction but there MAY be a difference in enjoyment.
@@andrewb7104 you mis understood my comment, I have been inverting since hearing about this method too. I’m just happy to hear that going back to normal with a dry filter paper wont effect my quality of cup going forward. Chill dude, have a coffee or something
@@nickpugh8879 tried a brew this afternoon with dry paper and right way up. So much less fuss, great cup.
I am not much of a coffee drinker, in other words I don’t drink enough coffee to tell good coffee from bad but live with a number of self appointed experts. I do however watch a fair amount of CZcams and this gentleman makes a quality video blog, he is appears very experienced, thoroughly, clear speaking, uses very descriptive words, has variety of comparisons, eliminates the repetitive procedures and disclosures outside influences to name a few qualities of his vlog.Other vloggers don’t have to copy his style but it would behoove them to take notes for their own vlogs!
I don't think "drinking enough" coffee means anything. I drink 2 to 3 cups of coffee per day. I can't tell the difference between a good and a bad cup of coffee.
If you stir with the Aeropress provided plastic paddle instead of a metal spoon, you will get the same results as a swirl. The long paddle and its large surface area does a good job of moving all the volume in the tube equally.
So far, this is the ultimate James Hoffman video.
Would be cool to see you brew the last 5 years' winning W.A.C. recipes and rate them from best to worst and simplest to most complex
YES omg, that would be amazing :00000
Those people are prob his friends so, if I were to be in that position I wouldn't be comfortable.
Plus those aeropress techniques require the beans they used too
@@asimplefarmer very true.
Definitely worth the wait. Hard to believe that a 30 min video in a series of (at least!) 3 about an AeroPress could be so engaging. Thank you
Each time I come to one of James' videos to look for some specific advice for five minutes, I end up watching for two hours.
I’d be interested in seeing a deep dive into the science as to why coffee tastes better brewed at 80 and 100 but worst at 90. That’s interesting.
yes that's confusing! I thought extraction went up with (quadratically or something?) with temp
My educated guess - balance ; at 80 less of the unpleasant factors are extracted (so it's balanced), at 100 enough pleasant factors are extracted to mask - like counterweight - the unpleasant (balanced). Something at say, 90, is unbalanced with too much extraction of unpleasant components. If my guess is correct - actually to prove it right - would be to determine the precise chemical components and carry out experiments based on those. A food scientist with access to a comprehensive analysis of the chemical composition of coffee might be able to make a guess which things would be detectable and unpleasant to most people.
Given the multi-billion (trillion?) dollar value of the world's second most traded commodity (next to oil), it seems like they could fund it with simple micro-investing or a GoFundMe-type charity. The information gained from such could benefit the industry from the agricultural side, to instant coffee manufacturers, single-cup brewer companies, etc.
I'm wondering if a temperature change of the brewing water (or grind change) would re-shuffle the results?
It would be interesting to see what you think of the difference between the Aeropress paper filters and a metal filter.
Was about to ask the very same question 🙋
That was the only other question that came to mind for me, too, although I think the papers are superior from my experiments from 10 years ago
Seconded.
Oh metal filter produces such a muddy result. Defo not a fan. I sometimes use both paper and metal layered. 😊
Try it. I think the filter tastes better, it is cleaner with less solids in it and sweeter but if you have a metal filter make 6g/100ml coffees and just see what difference it makes.
You're like the Sir David Attenborough of coffee bro! Noice!
I quite literally just had my best cup of coffee after watching your next video... came back to see the rest of the series. Thanks!
I've been brewing with the Aeropress only for a few months so I'm still in the infancy stages of experimentation but have found your information nearly spot on to the results I've achieved. I found your brew time experiments particularly interesting. Up until now, I've always stuck more or less to the 1:30 - 2 minute brew time and had good results. As of late, I've been playing around more in the 3 - 4 minute range and have found that recipes I've used in the past have improved considerably with the additional minute of two of brew time. Fantastic and informative series, James. Cheers!
This is an incredible amount of work you've put into this video - really appreciate the detailed, systematic approach you took.
Me, doing the exact same tests:
"Yeah, that is definitely coffee.. As the others"
Same!
Yeah, I’m pretty sure, when it comes to coffee, my pallet isn’t sophisticated enough to really tell good from horribly bad!
I can tell that body weight pressed always tasted hollow. Glad that he tell the same but I can’t control lower force coffee to be the same at all lol.
Wonderful video! One thing I would like to add about why I still pre-rinse my paper. It’s not for taste but instead to make sure the seal is properly made with the body. Before when I didn’t bother, I had two incidents of the paper shrinking or warping in some way when I poured in the hot water thus letting the grounds into the cup. Just a little anecdote from a filter-rinser.
James, thank you so much for such a thoughtful and scientific presentation, especially your acknowledgement of the pre-conceived notions we bring to such tests. You've made my coffee and life better--what a gift. Thank you, j
Hi James!
At 13:57 You mention that it's the rapid degassing of coffee that causes a sharp increase in pressure, leading to a tendency for the plunger to pop out.
The more pronounced effect at play here is that the pocket of air between the plunger and the steeping liquid gets trapped after inversion.
The act of inverting, causes the liquid to quickly heat up the now trapped air. The volume of the air pocket being constant, the pressure of the air goes up proportional to the temperature delta. PV=nRT (ideal gas law)
The same effect takes place when blending hot food item/liquid in blenders. Rapid heating of trapped air.
This effect can be mitigated by having lesser air trapped, to begin with. I.e Fill the inverted aeropress to the brim. A caveat here, the pressure differential will still be the same, but will only require a smaller change in volume to equalize. This will be provided by either a little bit of liquid flowing down after inversion (holding the plunger securely) or a smaller upward movement of the plunger.
I believe you've even cautioned about the safety of this method in previous videos. Even so, I used to swear by it. I'd gotten it right every single time. Till I didn't.
Love your work!
Good explanation. I had no idea what he was talking about, having done inverted for years, and that's because I fill my inverted aeropress to the rim.
I just love the $500K of espresso gear in the background!
This is where my eyes went to as well....
Exceptional! Answered ALL my questions as a new Aeropress owner. 🙂
One of most thorough videos on AeroPress options I’ve watched. Brilliant explanations, well executed, and excellent quality. Keep up the good work!
I think you need to explore grind sizes and their appropriate brew times more! As well as different filters, such as the different sizes of Able metal filters and even using 2 paper filters (which I often do!) This could easily be it's own video with how much depth there is to it
Would also love to see an exploration of different roasts! I know he briefly mentioned the difference in brewing temperature, but as a fan of a dark roast I’m curious to see more about it.
+1 on grind size. I don't have a good grinder, so I've gone back to buying pre-ground coffee for the moment.
Many types just don't seem to work unless I do the inverted method. If the grind size is too coarse, the water just seeps through the filter even when the plunger is in place to form a vacuum -- if I waited two minutes there'd be nothing left! OTOH I've read that a lot of the Aeropress competition winners used a fairly coarse grind, so I'm guessing that's why the inverted method is popular.
Grind size +1
Me: 2pm halfway through washing my car on this Sat afternoon which is covered in snow foam.
James: Drops 2nd Aeropress video.
Me: Drops jet wash and car can wait, cause I need to watch this right now!
Systematic, no fuzz, brilliantly produced and just a feast of rationality and pure knowledge delivered. I don't have many fans, but you're one of them James! :)
“We’re not worthy, we’re not worthy” Love this dude
22:30 We're into the minutia of Aeropress brewing here
And we love you for that! This video was beautiful.
I mean... What did you expect? It's James Hoffman.
If you watch a car show, there's nerdy stuff about cars in it. Same here, just with coffee 😉
That Bripe is just chilling on the shelf, biding its time.
In 15 years' time: Yet Another Even Deeper Understanding Of The Bripe (Episode #19)
Ommmmmmmmmmm......
#findyourself #meditation
Interestingly, I see this video just a handful of days after I tried a new way (for me) to brew with the Aeropress.
I used:
A Moderately fine grind with a light roast. Boiling water.
Inverted method.
2 minutes steep.
10 second swirl.
2 more minutes steep.
Gentle press.
The results were a wonderful confirmation of what you describe in this video... the most complex, balanced, pleasant flavored cup I've EVER made with an Aeropress.
Thanks for clearing this up for me, James.
Many blessings to you and the crew.
This video may be my absolute favorite out of your whole library of content, fantastic work, you are a treasure.