Miter Gauge Upgrade for Evolution Rage 5S Table Saw
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- Miter Gauge Upgrade for Evolution Rage 5S Table Saw
In this video I will be upgrading the miter gauge that comes as standard with the table saw Rage 5S. Its a simple upgrade however it gives a new life to the miter gauge on this saw. Its very useful and helps in getting a lot of cuts to a high precision and quality.
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I have just bought one of these, i will be adding this mod
As you already know, I got one of these RAGE 5-S as well, I was looking for the video but silly me, I couldn't find it so, after playing your playlist again, here it is. Thanks Tomasz, for the video. Brilliant, my friend... *_Cheers_* ...
Thank you kindly👍😁
Great adaptation, well thought out. Nice video
Thank you kindly
Thanks - Another useful video that will enhance my Rage 5. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
Nice build Tomasz, if you want to have a larger 45 degree cut or whatever size you want and it crosses a 90 degree cut, just pick a side and stick with that side that way you will have a side that is for 45 and 90 only, and the other side for whatever size cut that you want to use.
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Barry (ENG)
That's true and a good tip mate thanks👍
very solid work. I will reallize it too for my Evolution Rage 5s
Thanks for watching 👍
Awesome.. I made your version 1 router table and now I need to do this! You come up with the best upgrades!
Hehe thank you👍😁
Great video as always.
Glad you enjoyed it😀👍
You are my go-to guy because I have the same saw. Thank you.
Hehe well I hope my videos are some help 👍
Thank you Tomasz, as ever. Your explanations are always crystal clear, invaluable to newbies like me.
Love the idea of HDPE runners, but horrified at the price of engineering stock. Then it occurred to me that all our local (London UK) 'pound shops' sell 40x30x1cm HDPE kitchen chopping boards for approx. £4. I reckon L40cm should do the job on this table, and can get a few sleds' worth from W30cm- will confirm once I get around to trying it out!
Best wishes, Simon.
Exactly what I was going to suggest! Cutting boards seem to be pretty solid and should withstand the come-and-go wear. I'm surely going to use one of them as I've an Evo saw and each time I need to use the miter gauge it's a real pain.
Exactly that will be perfect 👍
wow .thanks for that tip.I've just bought a Rage S5 secobdhand so will pop into Poundland and get one for a future project making a mitre board.
@@TheEssexSpurs Nice one. Let us know how you get on! There's a whole community sprung up from the Rage5... Cheers.
Or you can go the 3D online shop route. I have a Metabo TS 254 M and the rail Is 12mm so I can´t use the standard T runner. I found a SketchUp runner design online for the TS 254 which strangely Is slightly bigger (13mm.). So I just had to modify It a bit with the free version of SketchUp (2017) and send it to a 3D online shop which cost me 13€ a piece. We sometimes forget we live In a 3D world now 😉
that a brill video, possibly the best one yet me thinks. thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Another excellent video. I have watch most of the videos on your channel as I am just starting out on my woodworking journey. I’m a competent DIYer but woodwork is not something I am confident with. I have also bought several of the tools you have recommended (Rage 5-S, Katsu palm router etc). The tips you give are invaluable!! Thank you.
Awesome, thank you! Glad that my videos are some help.
Great improvement job Tomasz, funnily enough I recently got a new one for my birthday for my Dewalt saw, very solid, quality build 👍
That the problem with Evo I have not found one on the market that would work with the slot on the Evo. Hence I had to make my own
Very very nice job , looking good, I'm having one of those, Thanks Thomas 😎
Thanks 👍 well worth making
I’m on it great job 👍👍
Hehe thanks 👍
NOW THAT WAS INFORMATIVE
Thanks for watchig
Just taking out the two underside washers on the handle and the pivot bolts then reassembling allows the mitre fence to sit a lot more firmly flush to the table, stops it rocking from side to side but I agree a much longer fence is a lot more useful
Thanks legend! I only just got mine and having issues with the mitre fence
Hi Tomas, I am new to your videos, I am really impressed with your teaching style and how you work. If you are not a woodwork tutor then you really should consider doing it. I have bought several tools following your advice and comments, RAGE 5S for one. I really like this upgrade, thank you for your efforts.
Thank you for your kind words. No I'm just a self-tought woodworker/ DIYer. I want to be fully qualified before making some official teaching and courses. At the moment its impossible for me but when my kids get bit older I may do my qualification and then share the knowledge to a higher and more detailed extent.
Great video Thomas. Very nicely explained. I'll be upgrading my mitre gauge similarly. If you ever do an upgrade to the dust extraction I'll be one of the first to watch. Good work and thanks.
Thank you. Yes I'm in the process of making the dust extraction, should be out within a month.
@@CasualDIY I look forward to it. Thanks for your response.
Another top vid Tomas I shal have to do this one also
Well worth making mate👍
My table saw will arrive within the next hour, and I am already watching videos on how to improve it :-)
Hehe hope it will serve you well👍
@@CasualDIY mounting it in my workshop. The manual is not very clear and the 5 types of bolts used, is a bit confusing. But what is important: the main table is as straight/flat as my Kubala 68cm trowel.
Nice work Tomasz using both slots means that you've got equal travel when mitring left and right hand in front of the saw blade, it's an advantage to just one one slot. Tony
That is correct👍 Thanks for watching 😀
There is an improvement tip: chuck it in the bin 😂. Unfortunately, if it wasn't for the non standard miter there would be some good alternatives for the more accurate miter dial. The non standard miters in this saw and having to adjust the fence each time to get square cuts, made me give my rage 5s to my dad (he uses it for construction so it's good enough). Joined DeWalt cult and not looking back :)
I disagree dwe 7492 cost me 2.6k PLN, (trolley is around 200pln extra if you wanted one) rage 5s costs 1.9k so price difference is not that big, and the benefits outweigh the amount of money spent. If I had space for cabinet saw I'd definitely move on to that skipping DeWalt but i need something compact and accurate.
Excellent video. Looks like another project for my Evolution Rage 5s saw.👏 One of the annoying things about this saw is the shallow channels for the mitre gauge making it impossible to fit standard track sliders. Your use of HDPE material is a good idea. Wonder if my wife would miss her kitchen chopping board? 😉
I have already removed a chopping board from the kitchen! I do most of the cooking, so I'm hoping it won't be missed.
Haha come on you can make a wooden one 👍😀
Just make a beautiful wooden replacement 👍
Another enjoyable video Tomas. I grappled with the stock mitre gauge and only recently gave up. I bought a precision gauge with positive stops and haven’t looked back. I do need to make a fence for the new gauge and you have given me some good ideas. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
I was actually trying to find a new "professionally" made mitre gauge for this saw but due to the t-shape track I wasn't able to find anything that would fit. Have you got a link to yours by any chance? Or have you got a different saw?
@@CasualDIY I bought a Drillpro Brass Handle mitre gauge from Banggood as it got great reviews on the Hooked on Wood channel. Unfortunately I discovered the non standard mitre slot on the Rage5S after the purchase. The drillpro adjustable aluminium mitre bar was 2mm too tall for the Rage5S mitre slot so sat above the level of the table. Not to be beaten i resawed the mitre bar using the Rage5S to shave off the excess, ground down the relevant screws and added spacers/washers to the others. It woks a treat now but was an ordeal.
@@johnvodopija1743 that's the problem nothing fits that slot. They made it so awkward, I would understand it if they were selling something extra that would fit it but they don't so it's even more baffling as the channel like that must be harder to manufacture 🤔
@@johnvodopija1743 the good news is someone now does a 3d printed mitre bar for that mitre gauge and the WNEW one. Bad side is it is shorter than the one that came with the mitre gauge you've cut. And extra bad news for me, is the 90 positive stop is off and I have no idea how you adjust that🤣
Cheap kitchen chopping boards are often made from the HDPE plastic and can be used to make runners.
That's correct 👍
Great tutorial Tomasz, thanks so much.
My sliding carriage has a small amount of left to right play in it and was wondering how you overcame this issue with the miter gauge running forth and back.
Cheers
Well they all have that slight play, mine as well. however when you use the mitre gauge it seems its not affecting anything, at least I haven't noticed. You pushing front to bak and the play is left to right so in theory there shouldn't be a big problem. However you may want to try and shim the carriage at both ends so its still straight, to prevent any movement.
@@CasualDIY Thanks for the advice mate, much appreciated.
Fantastic idea Tomasz. Another great video from you.. im also just starting out as a DIY'er and hoping to pick up a secondhand rage5 s in next day or so, altho its a tad more than i wanted to pay. 😭😭
My tools are slowly building up and im running outta space now so a small timber extension needed now aswell. Lol.
Love your channel buddy. Keep up the fine work young man. 👍👍👍
Thank you kindly. Yes the prices of tools are mad. Seen the prices for Rage 5s recently and I almost fell of my chair. I got mine when you could have picked it up for £240 brand new
@@CasualDIY Hi Tomasz, I found your channel a couple of weeks ago ( and I'm thoroughly enjoying your content a new subscriber ) while I was looking for reviews and info on the Rage 5s. I found it at a great price ( £178.00 !!😮) on the Screwfix site, but they said it wasn't available for either delivery or click and collect which I thought was strange. Alot of people were asking the same question, ie. when are you going to stock it again? In the answers Screwfix were being very evasive over a period of time until they admitted they don't stock it anymore and have replaced it with a slightly different version made just for Screwfix. However, they were still sdvertising for sale at that crazy price until I asked them " Why is Screwfix still advertising this model for sale on this site when it's obvious they're not stocking it anymore? It's been mentioned that the Evolution R255PTS 255mm Electric Table Saw 230V (205JP) is the Screwfix new equivalent, so why display it? "
I got this reply: " Our staff has read your question and values your contribution even though it did not meet all our website guidelines. Thanks for sharing, and we hope to publish next time! "
The next day the Rage 5s disappeared from their site!
The replacement hasn't got as good a reputation as the Rage 5s so maybe they'll regret their decision.
It was available on Amazon for £358, but has since been reduced to £308!
I've found an almost exact copy of the Rage 5s branded as an Excel. It's got the sliding mitre carriage, but not the hi lo fence attachment. Other than that it's identical apart from having a 30mm bore for the blades. It's also a lot cheaper at £191! I missed a chance to get about £38.00 discount. Bugger it!
Watching your videos has given me a few ideas for some add ons when I do get one. All I need now is somewhere to keep it and use it.
@@oliverreedslovechild Well I'm hoping Evolution will come up with a worthy replacement of the Rage 5S.
Another worthwhile addition is a decent fence system, I've used the Charnwood PSF universal fence, not cheap (about £90), very worthwhile upgrade IMO, and not too difficult to adapt to fit.
That sound interesting I need to check it out👍
I'm new to this 'commenting' on CZcams, so I don't know how, but I can send you an image of mine if interested?
@@garychance4494 you can drop me an email? You can't unfortunately send photos on CZcams. If you can I would appreciate it, my email is casualdiyuk@gmail.com
Thanks👍
@@CasualDIY will do Tomasz
Your videos are really good, I dont know why you dont have more subscribers compared to some others.
Thank you for your kind words, I'm slowly on my way to building grater community. In time great things happen👍😀
Another great video, thanks. 👍Can I ask what blade you use on your evo table saw
Thank you, its a Saxton blade with 25.4mm bore hole so no need for reducing rings.
Bonjour de la France comment allez-vous êtes-vous content de votre scie j'ai la mienne à déballer j'adore vos vidéos je vous souhaite une excellente continuation et une excellente journée en vous souhaitant de bonnes fêtes à bientôt.
Je vous remercie pour vos aimables paroles. Oui j'adore ma scie malgré quelques défauts. Je vous souhaite le meilleur👍
Great vid Tomasz 👍
I watched an older one where you insulated your metal garage door with silver insulation foil. What’s that new stuff behind you? Looks interesting!
Thanks, here is the video from my latest insulation - czcams.com/video/Vc5BtZopW-A/video.html its all there 👍
Thomasz thanks for this video, I've cut a few plastic shopping board track guides successfully on the Rage table saw, I have a question for you, do you think it would be easier / more accurate etc to cut the guide for the mitre gauge on a planer? I've just taken delivery of my first planer and I'm thinking of copying you upgrade to the mitre guage, but possibly using a planer.Great video, keep tham coming, many thanks
Hmm that could be bit dangerous, hard to predict what the machine would do witch such material. Personally I would not risk it.
Thomas have you ever done a video about dust extraction on your rage 5 as most of the sawdust comes out of the bottom on mine ?..
Not yet although it's in the pipe line 👍
Hi Tomasz. Can I ask why you didn't add the locking mechanism to the new mitre slot runner, to use with the sliding table? ..or is it more stable relying on the fit of the new runner in the mitre slot? Thanks. Loving the videos, I'm currently building the router table extension. Very innovative videos. Best Rage 5s videos on CZcams.
To be honest I hardly use the sliding carriage. I prefer to use my large sled instead. That's the main reason. But I'm thinking of something new... 🤔😅
Hi Tomasz, interesting video, thank you. Does this mod mean you won't be utilising the sliding table section? i keep looking at mine and wondering about how to make more use of it! I'm also considering removing the saw from the frame to incorporate it within a bench - if only to build some sort of dust trap....
Couldn't help but notice your fence hanging off the conduit - you do know there's a parking place under the table on the left side? Cheers
The slide will be used for bigger jobs and this gauge for quick short jobs. Its just quicker for me that way. I always look how to improve th work flow and make things quicker. In the end result it all adds on and I can tackle projects more efficiently. Yes I do know and never used it 😂
Another great vid, What type of t slot is in the rage table?
It's custom unfortunately. So far I have found nothing off the shelf to fit it
I have this Evolution Tools table saw and everyone knows that this guide is not at all precise, the only thing that bothers me a little is that the HPCE guide is not fixed in its groove T-shaped?
Nice work Tomasz. Can I ask you the size of your workshop as I am thinking of building my own next to my home and yours looks just the right size.
My garage/ workshop is 21m2, 3.5m by 6m. Its good size far larger than my old workshop.
Hi Tomasz, what thickness of board was used for this fence? Thank you for a good video again.
Hi. It was 18mm 👍
@@CasualDIY Thank you `Tomasz
I like the attachment for a router , is there a video how to ,Tomasz ?
yes, couple of videos in fact, well worth a watch, followed his instructions and got it on my saw now too.
Yep full list of videos here they are: czcams.com/video/hKGSkINhEBo/video.html | czcams.com/video/YiD4CJ9F0CE/video.html | czcams.com/video/sCyhsXXIX4k/video.html | czcams.com/video/bPFCq8loSWo/video.html
Excellent improvement mate! Guess what I’m doing next?😅👍
Hehe thanks mate 👍
Do you think a smaller fence would work if you drilled multiple holes? (allowing you to move the fence position). Love the channel btw!
Yes should be fine, depends on your needs👍
Hi Tomasz, great video as usual. two questions tho if I may, is there any benefit to using the little rip fence, and secondly, would using this improved mitre gauge with the sliding carriage replace a cross cut sled? (Limited space so I haven't built one yet). Thanks
Rip fence - yes for pieces that otherwise would get stuck between the blade and the fence, like the small runner I was making. Second question - possibly, depending on your needs. I I were to cut smaller pieces that require stable clamping I would still use the sled. I may design a more compact version soon, that has got more features and would replace my bulky one.
@@CasualDIY Thanks for reply, I look forward to seeing it if you do.
Another version of the sled will be good to see. Thanks
@@akbarhussain9216 it's on the "to do list" 👍😁
What do you think about Hikoki C10RJ vs Evolution Rage 5S?
Never used the Hikoki so I can't really answer this question sorry. However looking at the photos and videos on CZcams it seems to be quite solid with good features. I'm guessing its also more expensive that the Evolution.
@@CasualDIY only something about 50$ more expensive (in Poland), I must buy and still think which one :) I have read that Hikoki is really good copy DeWalt with better table quality :)
from Evolution I have only R255SMS+ for now and is really good :)
@@lucasgalinski3048 though choice, compare the features that these saws come with and think which ones you will use more, or would like to have👍
Hi Tomas - love your content. Couple questions. Where do you get those plastic boards for the runners and is the blade in your table saw an evolution blade? If so, which one did you fit? Was it the fine tooth wood blade? Lastly, could you sell me a zero clearance plate?
Thank you kindly. The I buy the hdpe sheets off ebay. 2cm thick and I went for one that's 50cm x 50cm. I mainly use Saxton blades with the 25.4mm bore hole or Freud blades and a reducing ring. Although I'm running tests on multiple blades so there's a lot of swapping in and out. On my table saw usually have a 40 teeth blade. Unfortunately I don't male those plates anymore, sorry.
hey Tomasz, thank you for another wonderful idea and super clear video. I just picked up my Rage 5s. Why would I make this miter gauge upgrade rather than a sled? When would one be useful rather than the other? Sorry for the silly question - I am new to woodworking and I was planning to build a sled because that's what everyone on youtube does. But this looks simpler and like it gives me all the same features.... ?
Well with the mitre gauge its easier to cut longer boards that are not too wide. With a sled it's much easier to cut small pieces and wider panels or boards. With a sled you got more stability and you can add clamping facility.
@@CasualDIY thank you Tomasz, we're lucky to have you!
@@hs1626 😁👍
Subbed! Why is the HDPE board so expensive?
Thanks and no idea. You can get it cheap actually. The cheapest white cutting boards you can buy in supermarkets are hdpe👍
Hi Tomasz, is the mitre slot a standard sized one
Unfortunately not. Its T shaped as well
@@CasualDIY cheerz Tomasz, I'm still tempted to buy it 😃
Use ikea chopping boards for runners
Yes thats a good option as well 👍
What is the plastic material please
HDPE plastic 👍
Ré je voulais vous demandez est ce possible de le faire avec du MDF merci beaucoup cordialement
MDF is not hard enough, trust me I used it in my first ever sled
I don’t use mine. I might now. Thanks
I didn't use mine either as it was pants. Now totally different picture 😀👍
Hi Thomas do you have email ? Reason I ask is I need help with my rage saw 5 and I want to send u photos to see if u can help . If not no hassle mate love the channel am doing ur add on router box at moment . Cheers Derek.
Hi mate, no problem just send them to casualdiyuk@gmail.com 👍
Thank you
@@CasualDIY hi mate thanks. I have a rage5 and when I cut wood it is coming out as a v shape wedge?? Sorry not figured out how to send photos on this. Doh.
@@derekwilson6516 Just drop me an email if you want. But it seems the blade is not parallel to the fence. I do have a video on how to tune up your saw. That should answer your questions 👍