Early Development of the Donnager

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    In this video I talk about the development and early concept art of the MCRN Donnager from The Expanse TV show.
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 WETA Designs
    3:54 North Front Designs
    6:52 Final Designs
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    #TheExpanse #spaceship #concept
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Komentáře • 49

  • @chrisdanelon
    @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +8

    If you want to support the channel so I can continue making videos like this please consider wish listing my game on Steam called The Indigo Parallel. It is out on November 24th! store.steampowered.com/app/1550870/The_Indigo_Parallel/

  • @Mannchini
    @Mannchini Před rokem +26

    You can really see how the early designs were working with Holden's assertion that the Donnager was ugly. We can't say that about the final version, it's gorgeous, and I think that was a good choice by the art team. Ship designs in The Expanse are so good.

    • @rommdan2716
      @rommdan2716 Před rokem +3

      I don't think it's stopped being ugly.

    • @xcalium9346
      @xcalium9346 Před rokem +2

      It's still pretty ugly lol. But in a good way

  • @FN1980a
    @FN1980a Před rokem +11

    @3:24 bottom left: BB Type O by Ergrassa (Deviantart)

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +4

      Awesome! Thanks for finding it.

    • @FN1980a
      @FN1980a Před rokem +1

      @@chrisdanelon Glad to be of help!

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX Před rokem +2

      It reminded me of the anime _Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu_ (Legend Of The Galactic Heroes). I think that's the one. It had these massive fleet engagements that focused on the tactics that each admiral used.

  • @ComradeMarlow
    @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +17

    Chris, I love your work. Not only in the media I enjoy, but also these videos about the development process of the ships' looks and such. I am a sf writer and I like to sketch out my ships I use in my stories, and like, it all stays in the concept phase cause they're mainly just for me, for reference if needed and such... but like, anyway, it's just so fascinating to see professionals' work in the field of ship design. It also provides a bit of a muse, getting to see the various types and, like, tones (I'm sure you follow) of ships possible and such

    • @ComradeMarlow
      @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +1

      Example: mood board! I'd never thought of that but it's so perfect for the creative process, and essentially the method I use anyway, but I'd never thought about actually putting together mood boards as guidance and stuff.

  • @argokarrus2731
    @argokarrus2731 Před rokem +8

    Correction, the art on the right at 3:24 is from Titanfall, not Dead Space

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +5

      Ah thanks I thought it was from the Dead Space book we had in the art dept. Thanks for the correction.

  • @PHDiaz-vv7yo
    @PHDiaz-vv7yo Před rokem +5

    Chris, I know there is an Art of The Expanse book- but an updated hardback coffee table tome just focussing on all the ships would be sorely welcome

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +3

      That would be cool but it's way out of my control. Maybe one day 🚀🚀🚀

  • @ice111110
    @ice111110 Před rokem +1

    I really like the mass effect music in the background

  • @Hierachy
    @Hierachy Před rokem +9

    I understand this is definitely a difficult video to do, but I would love more videos like this of other ships aswell!

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +6

      I have a whole playlist with other ships and more expanse content: czcams.com/play/PLUOknbzhlIl6v6n-jrkNHecVGfSyJxzOJ.html

  • @Killerspieler0815
    @Killerspieler0815 Před rokem +3

    if the design @ 1:33 gets 2 fitting warp nacelles it would look like a Klingon battle cruiser

  • @letsgocamping88
    @letsgocamping88 Před rokem +2

    Would love a catalogue of these concepts for desktop wallpaper.

  • @michaelcarney6280
    @michaelcarney6280 Před rokem +1

    I really love how the Donneger ended up

  • @Jdne199311
    @Jdne199311 Před rokem +1

    I love the vid, more so with the Mass Effect soundtrack in thge background

  • @MoMarinePrepper
    @MoMarinePrepper Před rokem +1

    I love the videos Chris, some amazing background history of design, concept and production that I appreciate. The Expanse is by far one of, or shall I venture, best sci-fi; maybe sci-reality? shows ever. Thanks for making and posting all of these!

  • @core3086
    @core3086 Před rokem +2

    The top part is a bit to "skinny" for my liking, beef it up 20% so that the side shots more resembles the 3/4 frontal concept image and we have a winner.

  • @thepolishtech1552
    @thepolishtech1552 Před rokem +1

    Another off these great videos! Makes me feel into the artistic mood

  • @harvey1965
    @harvey1965 Před rokem +2

    Perfect video for a starving scifi fan! Thanks!!!

  • @andrewnelson4148
    @andrewnelson4148 Před rokem +1

    I have seen the bottom left at time stamp 3:20 is the BB (battleship) type O by Ergrassa on Deviant Art

  • @spacepiratecaptainrush1237

    really neat to see the kinds of reference art used for the series are the same type I use for designing ships in games like Space Engineers

    • @e.l.wallace9060
      @e.l.wallace9060 Před rokem

      You got a workshop?I would like to sub to some of your ships:D

  • @A-Legitimate-Salvage
    @A-Legitimate-Salvage Před rokem +5

    The design at 5:00 is probably my favorite

  • @Jorjgasm
    @Jorjgasm Před rokem

    The inspiration art on the right was not from Dead Space, but from Titanfall.

  • @aartsst3227
    @aartsst3227 Před rokem

    Excellent!! - Thanks for putting this together!! Awesome to see the variety of styles & the revisions they go through until it becomes the Donnie we all know.
    Love how many of the WETA designs have an almost organic feel to them - were some of those ideas translated over to Jules Pierre’s yacht?
    Thanks again for the behind the scenes info!

  • @S1nwar
    @S1nwar Před rokem

    as far as i remember you barely saw any good exterior shots of this ship anyway. only later we saw a bit more with other ships of the donnager class

  • @ricardioscarbonara102
    @ricardioscarbonara102 Před rokem +1

    Well northfront kickass then!

  • @planetfall5056
    @planetfall5056 Před měsícem

    1:40 I adore this design, though it looks far too busy and ramshackle to be Martian. Could be a cool belter ship though.

  • @ComradeMarlow
    @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +3

    Could you maybe look at some of the belter ships sometime? I love their approach to ship design and stuff.

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +2

      Hi, I plan on doing many more ships, although some don't have as many concepts but I'll see what I can do. This is the closest thing I have done to a belter ship : czcams.com/video/a3lL1bhpl9c/video.html

    • @ComradeMarlow
      @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +1

      @@chrisdanelon so cool. Thank you!

  • @alex666493
    @alex666493 Před rokem +1

    hey, ever notice how the design of the ships in the expanse (long, tower like ships) are kinda similar to the to the ship design in legend of galactic heroes

  • @primusavenged
    @primusavenged Před rokem +1

    3:26 I wouldn't be able to point you to the page but I know that bottom left piece is from Deviantart somewhere

    • @BigSkwigg
      @BigSkwigg Před rokem +1

      Account is ergassa iirc.

  • @spacekettle2478
    @spacekettle2478 Před rokem +1

    I like the final design for the Donnager in the final render, but it's a shame the WETA design wasn't used for something else since it's really cool and has a nice character and uniqueness to it. I also can't see how the Northfront design is a continuation of that design process. It feels more like they just threw away WETA's design and made a completely new one.

  • @auxencefromont1989
    @auxencefromont1989 Před rokem +1

    The wetas designs almost look like they would fit laconia to me.

  • @ComradeMarlow
    @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +2

    Lol @ me using my phone camera to snap pics on paused screens for later reference when i try my own iterations of certain parts or ideas. Or maybe I just love spaceship porn

    • @ComradeMarlow
      @ComradeMarlow Před rokem +1

      Especially loving sketch C at around 5:25. I've been trying to incorporate more cylindrical shapes into my designs and that's just an awesome inspiration.
      Sorry I'll stfu

    • @chrisdanelon
      @chrisdanelon  Před rokem +3

      No worries I appreciate all the comments! Awesome that you are designing ships. I was thinking about making a tutorial for building spaceships using Blender and other tools.

    • @ComradeMarlow
      @ComradeMarlow Před rokem

      @@chrisdanelon That would be awesome, even though I almost solely sketch on paper with graphite and ink (I tried blender once and my brains melted out my ears)

  • @tarn1135
    @tarn1135 Před rokem +1

    I really wish we would’ve gotten some akin to fighters in the expanse. The idea of a thousand bee stings can bring down the largest animal just makes sense in the world of space battles. Tbh I can see the pros and cons of both mindsets and it doesn’t take anything away from the show for not having them.