Akrapovic Exhaust Installation on Ducati Multistrada V4, is it Worth the Price???
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
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The video is finally here. We found the cheapest distributor available for the Ducati Performance/ Akrapovic Exhaust full system and installed it ourselves! The installation was not excessively difficult and the sound is amazing! Check out the before and after and let us know what you think!
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Would you choose the QD system over the full Akrapovic??
Thinking of choosing the QD full decat with tune, but still on the fence. Any thoughts or concerns?
@@rafazelaya as of this point, of you're trying to save money, I would recommend going with the QD or Leo Vince dekat pipe only. If you're looking at adding a tune in not sure I would consider anything but the factory kit while under warranty
@@rafazelayaI would make sure qd tuner works with USA speced bikes. There is issues using European tuners.
@@steveschneider3872 that's good to know. I was not aware of that. Thanks.
I started the install yesterday afternoon, I had plans to carefully label all the parts taken off. I started with pen, 3x5 cards and zip lock bags. It didn't take long for that to go out the window with parts strewn all over the garage floor. But i think i got the biggies right- center stand back on before new akra resonator and no stripped bolts etc. Thanks for the video, there is no way i could have done this without the tips.
Great video Chris. Very detailed and honest review. You put a lot of work into that for us ( I usually do upgrades on my V4S in my garage), but this might be something I’ll hire a pro to do for me. But the sound; it makes noise like God intended of a Ducati. Again, you really invested a lot of time and work into this project, so thanks!
Fantastic detailed video, thank you for posting!!
Nice bike! Liked and subscribed.
Great video
I had the Akrapovic race exhaust installed on my V4S and it sounds absolutely stellar. With the stock exhaust the bike sounded like a kitty cat. Now its its a roaring beast but still not too loud to ruin your riding enjoyment. When quick shifting it trows some fireballs out of it. I also saved $1k on it by ordering it directly from Italy.
I agree with you 100%, I wish it was cheaper, but it makes the bike completely come alive
@@4KMotoring A premium bike like the MultiV4S does not deserve anything less then an Akrapovic or a Termignoni. It definitely completes the bike. I'm super happy with my decision and the flash tune for the exhaust does not interfere with any future ECU upgrades that the dealer will have to do in the future unlike an aftermarket exhaust tune.
Also a good point, the dealer can't install any updates to bikes with an aftermarket tune without potentially erasing it.
Does it make you smell like exhaust? Do you ride with any style of side bags?
@@MattRosenthal1 the EFI system is still very efficient at combustion, the bike may give off a slight exhaust odor if left in a garage after riding, but that odor certainly does not extend to the rider. I almost always ride with the plastic OEM panniers
I have been toying with this for a while now, would love to here one in real life first.
I would be curious how the QD NoKat sounds for the price, but the noise of the V4 engine and quickshifter though the Akra kit is downright intoxicating
Totally agree the crack on the upshifts is insane especially when the air is cooler. Intoxicating is a perfect description and pick up so much better 🎉
I’m still waiting for the decat and tune from BHP-UK for my 23 Pikes Peak. Should be shipping to Florida any day
Did you install it? How is it?
Yes, sounds amazing and cleaned up some of the bottom end. Overall happy
Totally dumb question - but this also fits the Pike Peak I take it?
Like others - great video DIY. Thank you. You have a lit a fire that is now going to cost me :)))))))~~~
It will fit all MTS V4 variants
@4kmotoring - thanks for a detailed review. Curious did the exhaust do anything for the radiating heat? I’m pretty sensitive to felt heat and would love to know if the exhaust and/or the tune helped the bike run cooler.
All I can say for certainty is that the exhaust makes me open the throttle more, which creates more heat... But then again the bike gets moving faster so maybe less heat?
It's negligible. The heat is generated in the engine, the change of exhaust doesn't noticeably change the heat felt to the rider
Great video, could you tell me where did you buy the graphics for your bike look insane...
I have another video about it, check it out!
Nice video with detailed instructions. How did you go about mapping update with a dealer that hasn't installed the system? How much did you end up paying the dealer?
The ebay seller was able to put my VIN in the database to unlock the upmap. My local dealership charged me 1/2hr labor to upload it. Wasn't a problem at all!
I only paid around $200 dollars for my decat pipes for my 2022 V4. Yea it’s Chinese but it makes a great noise and saved a lot of money. I will get the dark matter Qd exhaust and tune it so it will make it even better. I wouldn’t pay $2800 for such small gains IMO.
May i know where u bought it
@dinofrench care to share more info?
Also you’ve lost Ducati guarantee that normally would last 4 years. Is it really worth?
@@bgasiorowski I don’t drive this bike anymore. It just sits in the garage. I moved on to sports cars.
Just not something I would do to my Multistrada for 2 reasons: I actually do a lot of adventure riding and appreciate the lower volume exhaust noise. The other is the ROI in cost vs performance gain, re-map cost and lower fuel mileage.
Both valid! While well made, the exhaust kit is definitely priced higher than it probably should be. Sound level and tone are always very subjective decisions.
Great video brother👍👍 couple of questions for you, looks like you had issues with the center stand, do you have to remove it? What did you get from AK? Full system including headers?? Share the link?? How Much??did you have to replace any Servo?? No engine light on?
Thanks
Links are all in description.
You have to unattach the center stand on at least one side (I found the left side to be easiest) to swap out the Cat. It was the full race exhaust from AK, but for the Multi V4 that does not include headers. It was under $3k. There is no servo on the Multi V4, no engine lights or drivability issues with the exhaust swap, includes the factory approved upmap to get the race tune on the bike.
@4KMotoring Thank you very much brother, now if the headers don't come with the system, why would you remove the one in the bike??
@@ricardoanez6436 you have to remove the front headers to allow clearance to remove the OEM Cat, luckily it's not a hard job
All great but in my case I will loose 4 year warranty when we have no cat .. :( it is some solution to do some things without losing warranty ?
The Akra kit is offered by Ducati and retains warranty status. The QD NoKat would easily allow you to replace your OEM Cat for warranty work.
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Pretty awesome, any plans to add a tune? I understand if not, there aren’t tunes compatible with the warranty are there? I assume it doesn’t run lean at all? It’s pricey but a good upgrade for those that want a sporty Multi.
I had the dealership complete the upmap and it's definitely noticable, though the sound alone is worth the money.
No real issues with running lean before tune
@@4KMotoring Your dealer didn't give you grief for just doing the upmap without the purchase of the pipe from them?
@@lennykibbs260 none at all! They were happy to upload the tune and clear the maintenance light without doing any of the work themselves!
@@4KMotoring wow may need to come out there for the upmap...lol dealers by me are just full of excuses
Ok I have to ask. Where did you get that shirt. Love!
It is official Ducati apparel available at most dealerships, I got it from the Ducati stand at the MotoGP race in Austin 2 years ago
I installed this exhaust on my 2023 Multustrada V4 Rally, and now my clothes and even my beard smell like strong exhaust. It is so bad that I'm likely going to return to stock exhaust. I rode my bike over 4k miles before installing this racing exhaust system, and I never smelled like exhaust before. I do have those big Lone Rider side bags on it.
That's super strange, did you get the Evo tune as well? Have you tried riding without the bags? I have not had any issue like that nor have I heard of it from any other multi-owners
@4KMotoring my dealer was saying the same things. Yes, I did get the EVO tune. I will try it without my bags, but I want to use my bags. Thanks for your feedback. This is frustrating for sure.
I am going to order this exhaust in the next month. My question is: how are those Road 6 tires working out???? Are they Road 6 or Road 6 GT??
Loved the Road 6 tires, especially if you have no intention of any off road riding. The bike weight was right on the edge of what the regular road 6 is rated for, if you ride two up the GT may be a better option. I didn't have any irregular wear patterns.
I now run the new Michelin Anakee Road tires sharing the same 2CT+ construction with a little better off road ability and I really like them
@@4KMotoring Update: I went ahead and installed the Road 6 Tires on my Pikes Peak and what a DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT over the stock Pirelli's!! Smooth as silk and even faster in the canyons. I also ordered the full exhaust from the same supplier and it is supposed to be here 6/10/24. PS I have a friend who also has a Pikes Peak who went with the QD exhaust and another friend who has a V4S with the full Akropovic system. The Akropovic sounds better and the guy with the QD had trouble with the tune he got
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What's the OEM number ? Ending by CA or AA ?
AA is the model I purchased
Personally, I don't care for more noise. Moreover, bang for the bucks is just not there.
I would just get the ECU tuned (something like BHP UK) to rid the lean'ness and the power dips that are there to comply with Euro5.
There is clearly an element of diminishing returns at work with the outrageous price tag. Personally, the sound of that V4 at high RPM with the quick shifter clicking off gears sounds amazing with the opened exhaust. The weight savings are nice but not totally noticeable. The most I can say in its defense is that the ECU tune included is factory-backed and retains Ducati warranty.
If you're just looking for power or noise there are cheaper ways of doing both for sure.
Yeah, I bit the bullet as well, went for the full exhaust from Ducati .. the factory exhaust note is so underwhelming..
The V4 at high RPM, with the quick shifter and the full exhaust.. magical
Who is the eBay seller you used? Thinking about getting it myself.
Omina Racing (link in description)
@@4KMotoring question - did you have any issues when you went to install for the mapping? I believe they add your vin number to Ducati’s system so that they can install the map for you correct? Did the Ducati dealer do the install for you?
@@DinoFrench I had no issues whatsoever. Omina racing is a certified dealer in Italy that sent the parts, I included my VIN in the order and they added it to the system of approved sales. I went to my local Ducati dealer after I installed the exhaust myself and they were able to upload the tune with no problem. Super smooth process all the way through
@@4KMotoring Thanks for the reassurance. I will order one today. Do you know of any discounts that could be applied? It’s at $2700 right now and it’s definitely better than what it use to be. Also, did you get a chance to push it hard? Do you feel the difference?
@@DinoFrench I don't know of any discounts, but it was definitely cheaper than any US dealership i could find.
There is definitely a noticeable difference with the EVO map, but it's not a total game changer. The noise is perfect though, especially when clicking through the quickshifter. It was about a month before I did the upmap after putting the new exhaust on, I swear there were slight gains just from the new pipe
I dunno...I think I still prefer the sound of the Termi.
For the V4? I haven't seen that option
Does Termignoni make a full exhaust system? Unfortunately, all the sound is lost in the cat, so no silencer will change the sound much. This option is a decat or a full Akrapovic exhaust system.
@@4KMotoring Sorry, no. Not for the V4. I have a 2016 1200s with Termi and was just contrasting the two from that. But like you said, the mic and speakers are a factor.
@@krmicekroman Not that I've seen for the V4. But using the Termi option, you lose the cat as you do here with the Akro. Def a difference, but I can pretty much guarantee the Termi hits well above 120dbl...I just don't have a reader to measure with.
@@krmicekroman you can install leo vince de-cat with termignoni exhaust -what a sound !
All that money spent and the centre stand is not fitted securely 🤔, for bit noise. Good luck with that when it comes off and takes you out.
The C clips are just a failsafe redundancy, but definitely a good idea. I took the collector back off after the video to reinstall them correctly.
@@4KMotoring So here's a funny question. I've been following this issue for awhile as I'm in a bit of a fix with my bike. Mine is a 23' Rally model V4. People are saying that the QD won't fit due to the Rally model having a slightly different rear swing arm. So this may affect all of the decat only options such as the Leo vince. This leaves me with the Akro full system or the Termi full system for decat. In all of the posts about decat, everyone says you have to remove at least one side (footpeg) to drop the cat out. In your vid, you mentioned that once everything is out, you should reinstall the center stand so as to get to the circlips and such before proceeding. AND, you're the only person to actually drop the front headers to drop the cat. One last observation: Just above (the comment you made that I'm posting to), you said you took the collector back off after the video to reinstall the circlips correctly. Most people say that dropping one of the foot pegs is necessary in order to have ample room to move the cat to drop it..... Sooooooooooo.... here's my actual question after all of that. Now that you've done that (and have had everything apart), would you say that if you remove the front headers and rear pipe entirely, you could maybe drop the cat out without removing the foot pegs and/or the center stand? Does that make sense? I mean, once you noticed your error, you even said in your vid to go ahead and reinstall the center stand (which includes reinstalling the pegs) after removal of the cat. This suggests there's plenty of space if all of the pipework is removed. I guess I'm having a difficult time believing that at Ducati Factory, they are required to install the full exhaust system BEFORE installing the pegs, piping for the rear brake, and items for the clutch assembly. Seems there has to be a way to drop the cat without taking that shit off. Thoughts? Thanks and freakin' great channel!
PS: I've read through all of the comments, and yes, Termi has a semi-full system just like this. You keep and use the headers, but the decat with mid pipe and slip on are included as is the T800 upmap that easily snaps into the diagnostic plug under the seat. It all comes as a kit for far less than the Akro system. I just need to drop that stup cat!!!! HAHAHAHA
So a lot to unpack here for sure, as far as the rally models specifically, there is a different rear swing arm but also a different rear subframe. I don't believe that the rear swing arm has anything to do with the exhaust fitting at all, I think the only problem you may run into is the subframe having a slightly different mounting point for the muffler, otherwise nothing else mounts to the back of the bike and should be exactly the same.
No as far as finding an easier way to do this swap... I really don't think there is compared to what I was able to do. If you're able to take the front headers and rear headers off you could probably drop the entire cat out without the foot pegs, the problem is access. On my bike, I don't have access to the rear headers without a lot more disassembling than just the peg. If you could perhaps get to the rear connection for the rear headers without removing anything that would be fine, but with the large factory cat in place I really don't think it's possible.
Thanks for the detailed response! There's a guy I'm chatting with over on a Rally page I follow that couldn't get the QD to fit at all. Poor guy was four hours into shop labor trying to make that thing fit. I'm still not sure if a full system is worth the money (especially the Akro where it's connected to your VIN - there's no taking it with you). But if someone doesn't start producing stuff for the Rally, I'm a bit stuck. Anyway, again, love the channel and use it for lots on my bike. Thanks for your content and keep it up!
I’m about to do this on my’23 Rally with the Leo Vince mid pipe and Termi exhaust. I have seen posts on the Ducati forums that say you just need to loosen right foot peg enough to push it forward to allow rear cat connection to be dislodged and dropped. Maybe a few different ways to skin this cat.
I’d usually do this myself but it’s probably just enough work that I might take it to an independent Duc shop locally.
Once this is done I’m still unclear whether I need a new map/tune or not?
Great video. Thank you!
Waste of money for 5 maybe 6 bhp ,just stick the akro end can on if your that deperate chuck your money away lol ,personal opinion from 60 yrs of doing the same shit 🤣
The Akro end cap was an even bigger waste of money, if you don't remove the Cats there is no sound change. On a budget, the Leo Vince or QD de-kat pipes are the best value out there
the bike looks like a cheap chinese copy with those stickers all over it(((( the sound is gorgeous though
It's a little busier than I'd prefer, but I like that it covers up all the black plastic and unifies the body. The exhaust noise is phenomenal