CRAZY PSA Submission Return! 🔥 WILD Grades and Mislabeled Slabs!💥
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2022
- After one year I finally got my PSA submission back. Tune in to see how many 10s I got!
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Do you crack cases part of the pre screening. don't trust my self with a high value card
It's AYTON my guy
Hi
@brendenconner9686 phantom wolf zero 0:04
The fact that our hobby EVER accepted a year turn around is absolutely insane in hind sight.
It goes to show his mate Joe's advice has sunk in deep and learned his lesson in checking the backs. So yeah glad there's more 10's then the normal
Thank you so much for that tip for grading I will use it for sure! THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH AGAIN!!!!!😍😍
To submit cards threw a 3rd party as always seem suspect to me especially pre screening, what's to stop taking your card and swapping it out for a lesser grade. And I'm getting bad vibes on how he kept saying "I promise it's not rigged"
It's the shadiest business going. fair warning.
I did it once, but it was a very rare 1/1! It came back a Gem 10, THANK GOD! I’m with ya, In this business, I trust nobody!
I agree no one gets that many 10’s
I agree no one gets that many 10’s
Pre - screen 😅
I did an experiment with PSA - I purchased a GM 10 2018 Topps Update Acuna Jr off of EBAY 1.5 yrs ago, the case was cracked when it arrived. The seller offered a refund but I was nice about it and said I refund me the cost to get a new slab. (Lesson learned here shortly, just send it back). After 6 months, I get it back and it is re-graded a 5? Nothing wrong with the card and PSA couldn't tell me why? So I broke the slab a month ago, sent it back in with my other cards, comes back an 8? I have a call in to them now and sent them pics of me breaking the case, to have them explain what is going on? How can a card have 3 grades and all very much different?
They can’t explain it. They just randomly pull grades out the sky. Some of it probably has to do with population control
What you did is 'audit' PSA's grading consistency and there should be an independent group that hobbyists pay a really, really small fee to every year that does exactly what you did to all of the grading companies. Long overdue.
Grading cards is the biggest scam in the world. Unfortunately collectors fell for it and continue to do so. Unbelievable how people are gullible.
Because grading is a scam for suckers
@@daniellarsen889 I gave it to my friends son, he's a big Acuna fan. Plus I was $200 into it by then, not wanting to loose more.
Please have more of these videos with everyone on your SCI staff. Would be cool to see what types of cards they submitted to be graded.
I don't recall ever seeing that Allen Iverson card before. That's a nice card!
I am so glad you showed this, It demonstrates how crappy PSA is as a company, they have 4 year old kids grading cards for Christ’s sake ,get away from the PSA
I honestly think it’s a pretty typical order from my experience. With both CSG and SGC having more stringent grading scales, it would be interesting to resub that same order to one of them.
Some of these lower end cards would be great giveaways for a kids firepack.
Agreed!
Good plug for your pre-screen. Im def. interested and will check it out! Great work! Congrats on the Gem 10s
please dont do prescreening.. they just want to swap your card with a worse condition one
Mislabels happen so often with group subs unfortunately because they’re not checking the orders to report any errors. Submitting on your own, you’re must more likely to flag these errors and can report them quickly. I’ve been able to flag these a few times on my own thanks to knowing my orders well.
As far as your Love card goes, I was recently told the checklist has to be easily accessible to them, so sometimes those national sets don’t have complete checklists anywhere posted.
Video was great I had mostly older cards but I might give it a shot thanks.
Wow, is PSA getting softer on their 10’s? That Wiseman Gem Mint 10 looked clearly off center to the right.
A few looked off center. Goes with the rep psa has been getting giving away 10s
PSA 10 can be 60/40 centered
Its call favoritism for content creators.
It's known that PSA gives way more 10's to there partners and people they sponsor, sadly it happens with every grading company.
At this point they must screen for your address. This channel is a game changer and I’m sure they don’t want any negative press.
I am just rejoining the sport card and autograph collecting community after a 20+ year break. When I got out graded cards were only a few years old and now I wouldn't purchase a vintage card or any autograph without a PSA stamp of approval. SO here are my questions and concerns hopefully you can help me with... PSA's revenue is dependent on values of items, have there been issues with cards getting higher grades or authentic autos being deemed fake and vise versa in order to keep POPs at certain stats to keep values where they want them?
Can’t imagine waiting over a year to get my cards back. So much for doing a quick flip.
Why would anyone wait that long, and not trash the hell out of em???
I can't imagine waiting over a year for cards from PSA and only have base select rookies of mostly bums come back.
It's wild that they hand out 10s left and right on these newer pulls, but on the 88 fleer cards you pulled straight from the wax they were super harsh.
Hey man enjoy the ride with the 10's. You don't get them like that. You're on a roll. Great job 👍.
Thanks!
I hit a 2020 panini Prizm EPL Emergent gold Bukayo Saka 7/10 jersey number. Sent it to PSA a month ago and they mislabeled it .. took for ever to contact someone about the issue especially for “normal joes” like me .. on a good note it did get a Grade of PSA 10 Pop 1 .. now just need it to get taken care of
It’s so awesome to know people. Good job, I need to do some more networking for sure. Not being sarcastic either 🎉
First card luka top right corner is LOL for psa 10. Good luck selling that thing ;)
I need to find out we'll figure out how to send cards in for grading, I have so many cards that need to be graded, I have a bunch of Kevin Porter Auto RC prisms and I believe one national treasure swatch are those something I should keep or get rid of them
Great content as always! If you want to move the Iverson I'd love to add it to my son's Sixers pc!!!!
I’ve been using GMA grading. They have been around since 2000 and my crossovers have been great
I love GMA. Hate those people who say "all they do I'd hand out 10s"... Clearly I'd say that's a different company ^^^
They're fast, affordable, and since majority of the staff is old PSA & BGS employees you know they have decent experience
I love GMA. Took me 20 days to get my cards returned start to finish. Took 1 year for PSA. I can't do 20 times the Business with GMA. I'm sure a lot of their graders are former PSA. Tampa ain't a bad place to live, especially for tax purposes.
@@waltercopus1485 it took that long? I just got mine back within a week of sending them
@@AaronNeezNielsen different cost. I sent 12 cards for 250 bucks.
Whats totally strange is GMA is located only 3 miles from my home and I had no ideal.
Very nice sub! Grats! Unfortunately I got screwed bad on my last few PSA subs I finally got back. So whack. Got some 6's that were same or better than 9's in the exact same card, same submission. Went over them with fine tooth comb and magnifying glass. Been sending since 2005 and not sure how they can mess up that bad? Not to mention they damaged one of my cards (Shaq RC), that was a 10 GEM. Got a call from them directly , accidentally messed it up in the slabbing process. It's now a 4. Was insured but didn't insure it for 10 value. 🥴😅 PSA needs to have some level of consistency. Seeing a lot of this in the hobby lately.
Who's to say they didn't keep your shaq rc that was a 10 and swapped and gave you the sht card. What doesn't set well with me is the fact that Steven Cohen owns PSA now and hes known for fraud and insider trading in the stock market. It's absolute BS and I'll never use PSA.
If im honest they are bastards. They are constantly letting people down through their bad service and damaging or losing cards yet they will have nothing to show for it in return yet people still go back to them. SGC or BGS is my go to
@@harrymansell485 Yup. While many may have good results so that they still get vouched for, a good bit have horrible results with no explanation. It's market manipulation.
Wake up collectors, grading card services are just a big scam! Always have been ever since the 90s but now it’s even worse.
I just got the cards you sent me and I want to say THANK YOU!!!
You know that psa knows whose the card for. Look at the video there’s 3. Grade 10 that are off centers. PSA knows. I send 123 cards with a grout of 4. Got 7 10s. Psa know who the cards belong tp
Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Also, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers fair and rational prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
Lmao you can’t tell what grade a card is from a video. You have to inspect under magnification up close under bright lights to see flaws in printing, etc
Phoenix since born and raised in Arizona go wildcats and huge aaron gordon collector
Joe and the team at baseball cards do a awesome job of screening cards looks like my order super nice
Hi Wendy thanks for the kind words about our services! We do our best!
Looks like quality control has gone out the window with increased demand. Time to look at other alternatives. PSA was bought out a year ago. Maybe look at the new MGMT team?
try using CSG. They have a new label on their slabs and turnaround times are about 3 and 1/2 weeks. And their prices are lower!
Hey Jeff I have a question I have a lot of nba hoops rookies like a lamelo 2 halibertons 2 ants 2 quickly and a purple teel explosion obi should I grade them thanks
Could you do a video of cards that are team colors parallels to see if the idea that they hold more value over standard issue is really true. Ex. A blue Tom Brady is worth more than a silver and also what’s the difference between the other colors. Supposed people prefer the pink over the silver. Just an idea and think it would be a great video
Curious how many cards were originally in this order to GotBaseCards? How many did they reject?
Jeff. Long time admirer new to slabs. Was wondering if you sell any of your slabs? Intrested in a few. UK viewer
During the grading process they is a steo for you to review the card and label. Idid you bulk service provider review it then and correct it if it was wrong
good job Geoff love that Garnett card is sick!
I have a Mac jones card numbered 1/10. Is this valuable? I would think so since it’s 1/10 right!?
OK. Even though I hate seeing this happen to everyone, I feel better knowing I am not the only one this is happening to.
Totally. Big lesson is do what you know and want to do. Not what everyone else is doing.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. Their robots are unbiased and graded without human emotion. Moreover, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have fair and reasonable prices. AGS have not disappointed me in their grading service.
The Warriors are winning the title. I'm not guessing. I know.
Brandon Lowe like Wow, not Lowe like Woah
Everyones gunna be surprised with the raps this year! I hope they win it
Wow a ton of tens!!!
I went ahead and threw a couple of bucks at a Tua rookie card in case the Tyreek Hill thing goes better than I expect.
Hey!! That Talen Horton Select Silver is not centered 🤔
That Wiseman looked off center.. on brand with PSA handing out 10s like hot cakes
Truth! If you look at a bunch of them they are clearly off centered.
ya it's ultra modern should be getting a high percentage of 10s. not that difficult
I thought the same. Multiple 10 looked off center . But PSA has been getting the rep to be giving 10s out
@@xKingLeonidas300x nothing has changed they have always graded ultra modern pretty easy. I don't look at my cards under any microscope and I've always gotten around that 60 recent gem rate on my modern cards
@@PIP-zf9yb I’ve always liked bgs. They are tougher. Also thing CSG has future in sports. Years of experience in other collectibles like coins and comics and tough graders. But the hobby still values psa more even though you can clearly tell some graded 10 cards are not really 10. People can say it’s what the slab says but you can clearly see off centering, corners and edge on some.
This is like watching Steve Stifler do a parody of card collecting.
That card at 9:30 isn't really centered that great... Look at the circle graphic in the upper corners...how'd that get a 10?
@Sport Card Investor I just subscribed to your channel love the content.
I had question for you or anybody in the chat if 2 cards both went 2K in auction. The difference between the cards is one is psa 9 /149 and the other psa 9 /299 same brand and everything else. What is the difference in value between /149 and /299 on a card going the same price?
@@danc8458 I'm asking what the difference in value of the two cards are? Is it $100, $300, $500. You don't need to be rude and condescending.
Was that Jordan Love in that card saver without a sleeve?
I am new at this and you will know as soon as I ask this question. How do you know you get the actual card you submitted for grading back?
You don’t!!!! You just hope they send you back the one(s) you sent….They grade millions of cards yearly….Don’t tell me they don’t screw up often…It’s just a big scam but for some reasons, collectors just fall for it. They keep hiring new staff as EXPERT GRADERS….Yeah, they all went to the Grading University….🤣. What a joke.
I sent a few vintage basketball and football cards to sgc. Not happy with the grades especially since they were prescreened. A 3.5 and a 4.5. Why even send those in. Thought for sure after prescreening I’d be looking at 6 or better on those cards which for 50 year old cards and 40 year old cards were in very good shape. I don’t get it. Anyone suggest a different service for my next batch??? Hoping to get some better grades than my first batch.
Amazing how all my pack fresh cards come back as 8's. Must have that "special" sauce.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. Their robots are unbiased and graded without human emotion. Also, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers rational and rational prices. I recommend that you test out their services as they worked for me!
I'd take GMA of PSA any day. 20 days start to finish to get my cards back. Time means money. I can do 15 times the Business with GMA over PSA. Switched years ago and have absolutely no problems.
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. With AI being the wave of the future, AGS has implemented a robot that grades your cards for you that produces unbiased cards. Besides, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers legitimate and reasonable prices. I have always been satisfied by their service.
I thought Phoenix was gonna win. LAST YEAR... in fact, I'm highly INVESTED in it. CP3 #'d RCs. Only a few.
Also do some cards from 2009 and bac. And then you can be impressed if you get so many Gems. Like try and Gem a 1979... 😄
Why can't PSA / SGC and others not take the time to input notes along with the pics they take for their archive, to understand why a card got below a 10? I think that would help tremendously for owners and especially for buyers to look the card up and understand surface / centering, etc... issues the card may have?
Because they have no standards
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Moreover, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and AGS offers legitimate and legitimate prices. AGS is a really good company that you should try out!
Sun's definitely !
Do use do for Canadian submission vans price in Canadian dollar?
The ones that dont get the minimum requirements 9? 8? ... id say u still gta pay to have em prescreened which could add up quick if its a big order .so id only send in the ones i was quite certain would get 10's . That way there'd be minimal cards sent back that i still have to pay prescreening on.??
Tell me if I'm paranoid, please. The choice of sending in your cards directly to PSA for grading (with the assistence of CZcams videos to help you prepare that submission and cards correctly), versus my (unfounded?) fear of having those cards --- go to pre-PSA Prep-service where, if a card is handled by them and damaged or is identified and being a PSA 10 (and then swapped out at that facility by a nepharious employee for another card but of lower quality). I have seen CZcams videos of folks saying that they didn't think a crease or a corner ding was there when it was sent in. All in all, even if you take careful photos of your cards, it is almost impossible to guarantee something happens at the Prep-service or even at PSA grading time. Am I being too paranoid, or do you folks sometimes think, "This card looked perfect when I sent it and I looked at it very carefully, but now it's graded as a PSA 6 because of this suspicious crease," for example. Thanks much. Great videos.
So how much did it cost to have all those cards graded in bulk?
I would imagine that grading base cards for the purpose of flipping them, for the most part, will reduce due to the increased pricing. No? Because not many of these would currently be worth grading. I mainly use PSA/SGC for purposes of protecting higher end or personal favorite cards. I dunno about changing grading scales...I could easily go through my new cards and pick out a batch like this and get mainly 10s. So statements like that just stir drama...😂
Yeah, at the moment there isn’t as much money to be made grading low value cards. But that may change in the future again if PSA’s prices get back down to $20-30.
Man that would be great!! I think if PSA lowers to $20 they would be FLOODED again and would be in the same position. But $50 does seem a little high. However, I do like the $999 limit which used to be what, 100-150 on the lowest end??
All mine came back in a sgc box out of 22 cards 19 where PSA 10
Does sports card investor do personal collection buying?
Wow even sports card investor was subbing base cards a year ago 👀 wonder what the ROI is
I saw you on the tv on heat vs hawks game 4
9:27 How in the heck did that get a 10 lmaooo, horrible centering
Nice video! I am waiting 15 months now... But I got back cards I sent 3 months ago. I don't get it
Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. As a sports card investor, instead of using other card companies, I use AGS. Unlike human grading companies like Beckett and ISA, AGS uses a robot that grades your robot without bias. Also, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and AGS offers fair and legitimate prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Are you guys familiar with AGS grading? They use AI grading or something that's supposed to prevent things like this where some of those off-center cards are getting 10s.
I bought a few slabs recently and noticed they were miss slabbed.... Pokemon and Parallels of sports cards
How can we do bulk submissions while paying $60 per card for grading? I thought PSA was $10-$12 per card?
If I want to send a card in I have to pay a hundred bucks per card. Why PSA said it's because I'm not a member. That's crazy, $100 per card!
Wow there is a lot of inconsistency with PSA grading cards here. Some of them were off center but they still got a GM 10 grade. I think this is part of the problems with human grading. Humans just can have certain biases sometimes. There is a new start-up called Automated Grading Systems and, as the name implies, they grade cards through AI and computers. It makes grading much more consistent and accurate since an unbiased AI goes through the cards to give them a correct grade.
Basically I'm staying away from grading until PSA settles down. so any slabs with a number > 5000000 I'm staying away from. I feel like their older stuff has been more reliable. My 2 cents and definitely my opinion
I’m sitting on a stash of graded, prizm colors and autos of KZ, what a shame. Luckily it was all low risk.
The one card in the order that went up in value and it gets a 9... Burn!
Question? I got a 096/575 Trevor Lawrence score lava parallel would it be worth to get it graded and which grading should I use (level and company)
Anyone???
@@Dstone22 it's a crap shoot these days. If it's a PC card use csg/sgc. If it's a resale deal and comps are high, shoot it to PSA at your own risk.
@@Jacob_Spang ya it is and I was just getting back into it and trying to figure some stuff out I’ve never graded a card before
@@Dstone22 I have graded hundreds of cards via psa and bgs but have held off for the last couple years due to inconsistent results happening and cost. Hopefully by the end of summer psa gets the backlog under control and prices will come back down
@@Jacob_Spang right rn for Psa isn’t it 100 for base grading
This is not an advertisement but my opinion. Grading companies do make mistakes it's just a human being grading a card. I saw a commercial and sparked my curiosity it's a Grading Company that is never touched by human hands it's all by computers and machines. It's a fairly new company I saw the commercial about 6 months ago and I was pretty amazed on the process. The company is artificial grading service.
Did he just say Chronicles? And this guy has money? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im shock he sent that many low ended cards beside that he did great with all them 10s.
Grading companies should charge extra for grading base cards. Maybe that would help clear the back log.
They prolly jus throw em in a 10 case n say fuck it
I had an order there for over a year. Uph.
I'd like to see (and many other collectors) would like to see similar pricing commands for all graded cards regardless of the company in which the card is graded. Ex. PSA 10=GMA 10. It's the exact same card
Whoever gave that talen horton tucker select silver a PSA 10 needs their eyes checked. That was near an 8 grade on that centering...
All a scam!!!!
Prime example of why the. Corruption exist in the grading industry ..when humans are grading cards it will always exist ..when a machine does all the grading only then it will. Legit..minus the fees
Well, that was a great advertisement. Can I sub 3 cards to PSA? Also, I can drive to loganville. Can I drop them?
Yeah you sure can.
Why are you embarrassed the serial numbers all go up by 1 showing they were submitted a while ago and all together. Great gem rate. This is great for your card service 🔥🔥
With AGS, the cards will be handled with great care
KZ Okpala was released from the Heat last year and hasn't played for an NBA team at all. Also your next slab reveal should come from the other 3 companies you do group subs for. Just a thought.
KZ Okpala was never released by the Heat. KZ was injured and out for the rest of the season. He was traded to the Thunder for a 2nd round pick at the trade deadline to open a roster spot for Caleb Martin. Signed Caleb Martin from a 2 way contract to a normal contract. This way he can play in the playoffs. The Thunder released KZ because he was at the end of his contract and injured for the rest of the season. He will be signed by another team this summer, he's only 22 years old and 2 years of experience. He's a defense specialist though and they don't do well in the trading card market.
@@darthfianchetto8502 gotcha. Didn't know he went to the Thunder. But someone needs to tell KZ he needs to do better offensively so people can invest in his cards. Defensive players don't mean a damn in the hobby unless you're Dennis Rodman.
This amount of PSA 10's shows how far backed up PSA was. They probably only had 5 seconds to look over each card before having to move onto the next one
Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. Investing in sports cards myself, I suggest you use AGS. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Moreover, AGS has AI that grades the cards without bias and AGS offers fair and logical prices. AGS is a really good company that you should try out!
Me personally I wouldn't send non #ed cards to anyone just because people suck and could easily trade it out for theirs again imo
Do you have a channel that teaches what you do during the day? I'd be open to investments in tech companies.
Some of these 10’s your getting are visibly off center. I collect select football and the centering on 70% of select cards make them an instant PSA 9. I am not sure if they are more lenient now then before. Interesting.
No it's called PSA is a horse shit scam of a grading service. These bulk orders especially are heavily skewed and favored over direct submissions. PSA cares more about their status as being the #1 demanded company so they hand out 10s like it's nothing. Guarantees if you send them to ANY other service it will grade lower. The more we can branch away from psa and their scammy business the better ALL OUR cards will be regardless if its BGS, SGC, GMA, etc.
Side note - I'm a big supporter of the work GMA is doing lately. They don't just hand out 10s like a lot of people claim and their turnaround time is insanely quick and great prices. SGC remains my top choice still though.
He is sponsored by them of course they’ll give his address better grades
It really is interesting how biased PSA can be... He could probably send in a random card that was sitting at the bottom of his couch and still get a 10.
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. I have been annoyed with PSA’s extremely long return times. I have since switched to AGS and they are much faster. Their AI robot grades the cards in a much shorter time than human grading. Furthermore, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and they have reasonable and fair prices. I really suggest you try them out as they are the new wave of the future!
I need to do this
they couldnt even write you a note to explain why a card was not being graded?? what a JOKE
They definitely knew it was you and decided to give 10s cause that wiseman is off center left to right lol
New stuff is a dime a dozen..send some vintage in..I want to see those numbers...
Psa hooks up the small card CZcamsr influencers like you and Sasha lol. No surprise
Companies like PSA have too biased of grading. Investing in sports cards myself, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Besides, AGS robot allows the cards to be graded quickly unlike human graders and they have reasonable and fair prices. I have been using them for quite some time now and I hope that you do too!
Not a big PSA fan, how many 9’s and 10’s slab you’ve seen that are a little off centered or a lot? I personally like BGS, with BGS I at least now why I got that certain grade because of sub grades. PSA can’t justify it. Plus don’t buy any old PSA slab’s, due to PCWW and PSA scams that they had going on.