22 Yamaha YZ250F vs 22 Husky FC350 Lap TIme Comparison
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- čas přidán 1. 09. 2021
- Did a single lap back to back on a 2022 Yamaha YZ250F and 2022 Husky FC350 to see which one I was faster on. Rode a fun old school GP style track that was a bit overgrown in a few sections on a very hot and humid day. These back to back lap time comparisons are a fun way to quickly compare bikes.
The YZ250F revs quickly and has impressive low to mid power for a 250F. The KYB suspension works for a wide range of rider skills and weights. The new for '22 model year MX33 tires work well and the bigger 450F rear wheel and tire (110/90) give some extra traction out back. Ergos are unique with a short distance between the seat and footpegs yet the handlebars are far forward and tall in the as delivered forward mounting hole. I did a 2:19.01 lap time on the YZ250F
Next up is the FC350. The 10mm lower suspension is immediately noticeable with a low seat height. The lower suspension works great in the corners too as the bike effortlessly leans into and flows around corners. The FC350 has a planted feel on track that gives confidence to push harder. I did a 2:12.71 lap time....6.3 seconds quicker than the YZ250F! The FC lap did not feel 6 secs quicker!
Going to do more of these back to back lap time comparisons between these (2) bikes soon!
I'm seriously considering a 350. Not sure if you mentioned in any of your other videos but about how much do you weigh?? You make great a very informative videos. Thanks
Thanks! Great to hear you enjoy the channel! I am 6' 2" tall and about 190 lbs before gear. 350's are my favorite combination of power/weight/handling in a 4-stroke dirt bike. However after spending a lot of time this fall riding 250F's they are so good!
The 350’s are fantastic. Heck all the new bikes are fantastic. I have a FC450, yz250, beta 300rr, and I’m 100% sick of the air forks. I ride vintage motocross tracks and a couple modern motocross tracks along with a mix of woods and single track. I’ve done lap times against all my bikes. My fastest laps are always on a 250f, or my beta 300rr. But the betas not fair. It has the ohlins suspension on it now and you car blast through anything and always feel exactly what the front is doing. I think it’s all personal preference and feel and your always fastest on what fits you the best. I would take awesome suspension over 10 more horsepower 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Nothing makes you go faster than dialed suspension and new tires.
You have some great bikes to ride! Fun to jump between bikes and make comparisons. You are spot on....suspension is the number 1 most important part of a dirt bike and Ohlins makes some great forks and shocks!
I've just brought the fc350 23 and gone from a 09 yz250f that has been set up to me a rode for last 18months but the fc felt so planted a smooth in the corners a was loads faster through them a mate couldn't stay with me on his 21 kx 250f said I was on rails plus was only using half throttle as was taking it easy for running in cant wait till tomoz a see what feels like full pelt
Congratulations on your new FC350! They are a very fun bike and the lowered suspension is noticeable especially in the corners. The suspension will take a good 6~8 hours to break in so be patient if it feels a bit firm. The updated 23 350 engine has a lot more low to mid power yet still rips on top. Always fun to go faster than your riding buddies! Have fun on your new bike!
Hi @mxengineer1,
sorry for this late comment/question, but I discovered your channel just recently, no need to mention HOW COOL I think it is: "real-life" - comparison of bikes, just launching them on known hobby-tracks, by an average-joe!! AWESOME!! -> subscribed immediately!!
I have a question regarding these to bikes: as I'm about to choose a new ride, I'm looking exact at these two (well: as I'm on a budget, it will be rather the 19-20'-versions of them). As a vet-rider who just re-started MX 3 years ago, after 21 years of absence and being on my later 40's, I'm very focused on low-to-mid grunt. I'm on a 12' CRF 250 now and am really excited how 4-Stroke 250 are generally pleasent to ride. However, the CRF comes on good at midrange, but is lacking a bit torque and response in the lower revs, then comes a bit too dynamic in mid, just to have no excitement on top. I would want my next ride to come earlier in the rev-range with more dominance, have similar mid-sensations and a bit longer and more exciting top power.
I'd expect the yamaha being exact what I want but wouldn't mind having that more top-power of the 350, just as "reserve", to rev if needed.
So my big question is: How do these two bikes compare in the low-to-mid power and response-department? Is the 350 stronger? Or is the powerful yzf even performing out the 350 in that area? If you could describe the powerbands in comparison to each other, that would be awesome, I'll appreciate that a lot. And last: which would you personally recommend for my profile, having in mind I'm looking at their 19-20'-versions?
Thanks a lot for an answer in advance and please: don't stop testing and sharing those rides and your comments!!!
Thanks for the feedback - glad you enjoy the channel! Also great to hear you are getting back into riding! The YZ250F sets the bar for low to mid power and partial throttle torque in the 250F class. Free GYTR tuner app lets you change the power character of the engine on the YZ250. Finally the KYB suspension on the YZ250F is considered the best off the showroom floor (especially the forks) and works for a wide range of rider weights and skill levels. Comparing YZ250F engine character to the Husky/KTM/Gas Gas 350's....the YZ250F has almost 2-stroke like snap which does give the sensation of more power and torque than it actually has. The 350 engines are also very responsive and produce about 10hp more at the rear wheel compared to 250F's and do have noticeably more low to mid power compared to a 250F. For me 350's have been the best overall combination of Power/Weight/Handling in a 4-stroke dirt bike. Both 250F's and 350F's are very fun to ride and both produce linear and high revving power over a broad RPM range. No wrong choice in the bikes you are considering.
@@mxengineer1 Thanks a bunch for your detailed and professional expertise. Unfortunately, it was not what I wanted to hear as now I feel as I want to have both....hahaha!! ;))
I feel as the more reasonable choice would be the Yamaha (Prices (even for a used) /reliability/parts-availability/"all around package"), but the bigger 350-engine of the Husky makes me really feel as it is more compliant to my riding-style as I always have been smbdy. who preferred a bigger, more torquey engine. I have a 18' CRF 450 as a Supermoto-Conversion and love it, rode and again ride an old XR600 in the woods and am stunned how good this old mule still works out there. I get around pretty well with that "Diesel-like" 600'er engine powerband. Saying that: I'm pretty sure to NOT want a 450 as MX-bike as this will definitely be too much.
However: the best way to decide which bike is best would be to test ride each. Unfortunately, I don't see this being possible, as dealers which have their own test-tracks are rare around here and I don't know anyone private, having one of these bikes (well: a buddy just got a 22' YZF as I heard....?!? :)).
Anyway: winter is coming, so this will delay a decision anyways.
Again: Thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it a lot. Keep on with your channel, as you see: from around the Globe we love it (Germany here)!! ;)
Cheers!!
@@crnobrnd I had a dual carb XR500 and later a '91 XR600 (had the XR600 for many years - kinda of wished I held onto to it). The XR600 was such a fun bike to ride - so compliant and comfortable (suspension and seat!). You have a current CRF450 so you understand the "any rpm/any gear" throttle response of a current 450 moto bike. The YZ250F may surprise you as it feels more like a mini 450 than the Honda CRF250R though for '22 Honda finally gave the CRF250R/RX low to mind torque and power. See if you can bum a ride (even around yard of parking lot) on your buddy's 22 YZF - that might help you decide. Getting cold here in Ohio so similar to Germany. I have been to Germany a few times and spun some laps at Nurburgring - that is a very fun place - cannot imagine riding it on a motorcycle.
@@mxengineer1 The world is small: I had a 86' XR 600 (dual carb as well) and also a 91' XR600 back in the 90's. 2 years ago I was looking for a cheap trailbike to ride it in Bulgaria, as my girlfriend comes from there. My "old love" for XR's came back again, so I got myself a 95' and don't regret it!! :)
Yes, the term "Mini-450" I heard a lot regarding the YZF 250, that's why I'm looking for one. The new Honda 250 would be even more interesting, as I'm a Honda-Guy, but as I said: I'm on a budget and think it has to stay at the 4,5-5K-area somehow.
My cousin lives in Ohio, so "small world pt.2"!! ;) Yes: Nürburgring-Nordschleife is pretty sick: I've been there once with my Ducati and it was cool but also strange, because you battle with Race-Cars and then a Tourist-Bus appears in front...pretty sick as everybody is allowed to go there. Was more a friend of regular racetracks. ;)
I think I will ask my buddy to let me ride his bike, as soon as the weather gets dry again. The Yami really gets me excited!! :)
@@crnobrnd I get excited when I get to ride a YZ250F.... czcams.com/video/MABTTJcE-8Q/video.html
Should I jump on a Husky 350 or a YZ 250?.. I’m 5.10” and my previous bike was a CRF 150 RB… I’m still in the learning process and not to sure which one to get.. I’ve heard 450s have way to much torque and wouldn’t be the best bike cc right now so I’m considering either of these two
If you are talking YZ250 2-stroke - it is a different kind of power (more power over a narrower engine RPM range) compared to a YZ250F 4-stroke. 250F's are very easy to bikes to ride for anyone with broad linear power. I feel the latest KTM/Husky/Gas Gas 350's have the best overall combination of power/weight/handling in a 4-stroke dirt bike. For you next bike it really depends on your skill level. Talk to some of your experienced dirt bike riding friends and also skilled riders from local motorcycle shops as to what bike might match you skill level. Generally if you are coming from a 150RB (very fun bike!) and still learning a 250F would be a nice step up.
Unless you are over 250 lbs or are winning a-b class 250 already then a 250f is all you will ever need. Until you can put ride the power of the bike basically holding it wide open a lot of the time then it’s really not worth getting a faster bike. I ride a yz250 2 stroke ive owned everything in between 450s to a 250f. A yz250f is a good bike to just get and keep forever and improve your skill level the bike will do everything you need it to do stock all i would do is set the suspension up for your weight once your at that level.
@@CodySnell_87 Yes the current YZ250F is such a good bike overall and works for a wide range of rider skill levels.
Anyone comparing these bikes has never ridden a 350. The gearing on the 350 is perfect. 3rd gear all day long. Get the tuner!!!!!!! If you rode the 350 after the yz... you'd sell the yz.
KTM/Husky 350's are my favorite combination of power/weight/handling in a 4-stroke off road bike. My '21 KTM 350 Kailub Russell Edition is my favorite 350 to date and the myKTM app allows me to liven up the throttle response and reduce engine braking so the bike feels even lighter than it already is....czcams.com/video/x7tMeyCPiBI/video.html
Nope I like the yz better handles better in the mud better to. Me and several other guys agree on the yz and one guy bought the 350 ktm thought he would like it better than his yz he had and ended up not liking the ktm 350 on the fast tracks we go to! Needless to say he sold the Ktm.
@@bradymxr4659 that's crazy. Everyone I've let ride my 350 sold theirs and bought a 350... everyone has their own likes. I did ride the 2019 yz250f. The suspension is nice. The bike didn't seem to do anything wrong... but my 2022 fc350 feels more glued to the track and 3rd gear stretches way out there
@@glenstrahle6081 well he and a few others like myself are A riders didn’t care for it at all. Maybe a little track like yours is fine but some of the fast tracks we go to get rough and huge jumps that 350 would beat the hell out of you compared to the yz suspension. Also the yz on a muddy wet track also seemed to handle a lot better as well. I still prefer more power than some of them that’s why I still have a 450. I always get to ride someone else’s 250.lol
If you don't like the 350 compared to the 250 you are not fast enough. Slow people like slow bikes. Simple as that. No way in hell would I pick a yz 250f compared to a KTM 350. If you are a big boy, you choose the 350.
Why not get a 250 2 stroke?
How about a 300 2-stroke vs a FC350? czcams.com/video/aoFLngPIO2k/video.html
7sec??!! Wowzer.
More comparisons soon...last one the YZ250F was only 0.5 secs slower;)
Timing by hand......
The lap times for pros on 250s are always within a few seconds of the 450 class. You need to rev that 250F further. There is no way there should be a 7 second difference on a 2 minute lap.
Yes Pro's ride way better than me! I've been doing back to back rides with lap time comparisons for many years - just a fun way to see the characteristics of different bikes. Found a 6 sec difference in lap time riding a '21 KR350 back to back with a '23 350SXF... czcams.com/video/qJvCVkuKikw/video.html
He has a slip on silencer. Not a full pipe btw.
Yes the Husky as a slip on FMF 4.1 muffler while the YZ250F has the full FMF 4.1 Ti exhaust system
You are the automatic transmission, your really good a shifting😅
Fc 350 All Day ;)
The KTM/Husky 350's are fun bikes!
@@HelioGabriel1987 KTM/Husky/Gas Gas 350's are my favorite combination of power/weight/handling in a 4-stroke off road bike
My bikes don’t open up until 10 hours and 3 or 4 oil changes. .
Yes seems to vary with make and model. My experience has been the Japanese bikes engines (Honda/Yamaha) tend to break in much quicker - usually feel pretty good after 4~5 hours while the Austrian bikes (KTM/Husky) engines tend to be much tighter when new and take a good 20~25 hours to feel fully broken in.
@@mxengineer1 your posts and comments guided me to a purchase in 2020, a Husky FX350. 35 hours later (I have other bikes), a full Technical Touch KYB suspension A KIT, Factory Brakes, AIM Taipan ECU, MOTOZ gummy tyres, this machine is something else, gives an old slow man, much pace and confidence.
@@iainhutchinson345 Glad the channel has been helpful to you! Your FX350 sounds totally dialed - all functional mods that really help performance. As a Vet rider myself the Austrian 350's have been my favorite combination of Power/Weight/Handling in a 4-stroke off road bike. Similar to your bike my '21 KTM 350 Kailub Russell Edition has WP Pro Components suspension, full Akrapovic racing exhaust, myKTM connectivity unit (turn up the response and turn down the engine braking)....my favorite 350 to date! czcams.com/video/x7tMeyCPiBI/video.html
On the yz put the bars back a lot better.
I've ridden with the bars in the rear hole with the clamps rotated forward - for me at 6'2" tall it just feels too close and I prefer the more forward mounting hole. However that positions the handlebars far ahead of the steering stem and makes the steering feel a little twitchy. If I only ride the Yamaha I adapt but jumping between bikes really makes the Yamaha ergos stand out.
chi ha vinto?
I ordered mine back in April and it showed up in October. The dealers should know by now if they were allocated a MT09SP and when it is scheduled to show up.
250 v 350. .. Supercross bike v Enduro bike 🤔
Not sure I follow...both this '22 YZ250F and '22 FC350 are full on motocross models per the manufacturer. Yamaha does offer a YZ250FX (GNCC style bike) and YZ250WR (enduro model) while Husky has the FX350 (GNCC style bike) and FE350 (enduro model with lights).
That wasn’t a proper comparison. On a small tight track, you should have smoked that 350 on the 250.
Felt like you you were taking your time and going for a Sunday stroll.
Bad comparison 👎🏼👎🏼
I pretty much ride at Sunday stroll pace all the time;)
These back to backs are a fun and quick way to compare how different bikes work for a rider. The owner of these bikes did the same thing and was 3 secs faster on the Husky FC350. I will do more of them in the future on these bikes and more. Should have a 22 CRF250R out for a Sunday stroll soon;)
Not at all haha 😂 be had both and husky’s handle better
@@xafbxmoto269 not on a rough fast track they don’t. The yz out performs it by a long shot.
@@bradymxr4659 You’re not serious are you? I had to do tons of suspension work to get my yzs to handle good in the rough stuff. Have you ridden a stock yz250f and a stock fc350?
@@xafbxmoto269 yes.. You are about the only person I’ve ever heard that you had to do tons of suspension work to a yz. Yz for years has been considered the best stock suspension and only a few clicks here and there make a huge difference. Set the sag right and your suspension and she is easy to get balanced. I think even Pat Foster if I got the right guy said even he races his Yamaha with stock suspension. Yamaha is stiff when you 1st start out but make a few adjustments till it breaks in and all is good even when stiff riding it fast it soaks things up. So it’s very weird hearing this for the 1st time someone had to do a ton of work to it! Especially over a husky KTM brand is funny.