Lap Time Comparison! || Pro Vs Am
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2021
- Cameraman Cam and myself go head-to-head to see the difference between a pro rider and your average joe (sorry Cam)! Then I give some tips to Cam to improve upon his laptime! This is episode 5 of a new mini-series called Pro Vs Am
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How about a spin off series: "Can we make Cam a (local) pro?" Goal would be to get Cam on the box at a local pro race. 👍😲
Chris Canning just won the NESC series (Cam's local pro series) and is currently top 20 as a privateer in the Outdoor National series. Cam has a lot of work to do those New England boys are fast. lol
Used to race Nesc myself as a 250 and open novice along long time ago. Love New England tracks
what is a local pro?
And no one has mentioned how consistent Cam’s first 3 Laps were!
That in itself is beyond impressive!
That was my 1st thought that he was staying consistent which is one of the hardest things to do for a am.
This series was such a good idea
😬
For sure, great idea. AJ does a great job communicating and explaining. We have young kids in our area watching this stuff and helping them along.
Agreed!!
@@AjCatanzaro Love the pro vs am serie! keep it up! By the way, today is June 9th, I'm wearing my moto-x merch and I'm ready for the call! Ha Ha! Take care from Syracuse NY!!
The video comparison really helps see how coasting kills your times. I know we should be accelerating or braking only, but this video was a great visual learning tool.
No COASTING. I kept getting told this and didn’t believe it UNTIL I watched my own GoPro and listened to how much I was off the throttle; coasting into turns. Turn speed. You can see the difference in their lean angle in the turns. Great video!
That's a huge tip, I recently started simracing and I noticed that the really fast laps were the ones where I was confident in my brakes and power application, i.e where I wasn't coasting
Man, I love the pro vs am series. It’s SUPER good knowledge. I’m more of a quad guy, but I do like getting on 2s from time to time. Also, your line choice in some cases can actually transfer to quads to because of the reasoning you give of WHY you chose those lines. Honestly, I feel like this will help me on dirt bikes and quads, just in different ways
this series is so good, keep them coming
shifting tips on the straight away will definitely help me personally, I feel like natural instinct is to just wide open throttle, shifting up at 3/4 throttle and double down shift definitely will help me
do you pull in the clutch?
I'm glad you popped up in my recommendations last month. This is now one of my favorite dirtbike channels
As a retired (medical reasons) rider I have loved this series. Fair play to Cam for being will to put yourself out there to be part of this. You know all the armchair experts could have ripped you to shreds on every video but they didn't which says a lot about AJ's subscribers. YT can be a brutal place sometimes. Everybody have fun and stay safe 👍
That was one of my fav’s !!! The virtual ride on the bike with both of you ... caught myself leaning on the turns 😝 Cam so impressed !! Great job 👏🏻👍🏻
Yoooo!!! Finally I can see where good/bad times to use the rear brake. This has been my favorite series that you have done AJ! 👌🏼
I was impressed with your feedback, two simple things that improved his lap times by 1.5 seconds. Your ability to dissect his flaws was on point. THANK YOU 🏁
That intro is super rad, well done Cam! Also, good job AJ for being dope on a bike and stuff too 👍😂
I'd like to see a gate start comparison video, timed through one turn. Like a modified drag race but starting all the way at gate selection. Ideally, you'd walk through the gate area without the other one there, tell us which gate/lane you're picking and why, and then come together and do the start drill from your chosen gate and see how that goes, then discuss your gate choices, trap times to the cone and the differences in start techniques. (You could probably turn that into a few videos, actually.)
AJ you make cornering look so easy. You are on the gas almost at the entry of the corner, while Cam hits the gas past the halfway point. And that 45 degree right turn is insane hitting it without braking...OMG unbelievable.
Nice! And Albert reporting for Duty! Nice! Wondered what it was... These are awesome videos BTW... Glad you decided to keep them going.
Great series, Aj / Cam. The new mic's are working really well. But, you have the advantage, Aj. As most say, you are on the Weed Whacker Yamaha with superior power!! I look forward to every video. Keep posting those class/training videos too. Happy Friday guys!
this series is sick
Really fun vid to watch, great job guys
This is great because I learn while being entertained. Also the Yamaha suits you 🤙🏼
I love watching your videos they are helpful for my son and very fun to watch.
While it would’ve been awesome seeing you race outdoors, this is a good series!
Cam is a really good rider. Then AJ comes on and clear difference, always impressive. AJ your corner speed and fluidity is noticeable as well. Banger! Another good one boys! 👍🏼
Great video guys!
This format is awesome! Please do more.
Excellent video! Good lessons for all us non-pros 💪
Super fun to watch
this series is AMAZING 👊🤙👏👏
Love this series. Now I want to see a collab with Jeff Walker. How much can the veteran can help the privateer. And I'm subscribing to Cam. Took you guys all season, but you got me. Carry on...
Now that is an awesome idea and something I have been thinking about for a while now. A head to head with JWalk like this video would be awesome as well.
Greatest feeling in the world killing the track and all the obstacles and feeling comfortable doing it! Ride on Aj!
Good stuff. Please continue.
Beautiful property! I visit whitingham VT a lot!
Thx so much that was my idea 💡 for lap times and it was realy cool to watch thx guys
Good stuff! I am on a 21 Kaw 250 and it is awesome, I need to do a vet rider overview video of how I like it. Keep up the good work.
Hey! Excellent Shredding! Good advice as usual AJ! GOT THE NATIONAL'S@ LAKEWOOD this weekend! From Colorado hey bro!🏁
Love it thanks guys I need help with jumps with ruts in the face of it
I love this series.
That was pretty brave of you, respect to you both 👏
1st off love all the videos I've actually watched all the way thru till the end.. 2nd, love all the free advice you give on some of the techniques and other technical things that help improve your riding time and helps building confidence for other riders to successfully hut the doubles and triples.. I have already implemented a few things I've learned so far and has actually helped a bit.. still healing this broken leg, so I gotta fight thru the pain of holding up my 800+ lbs Harley style motorcycle just so I can get some kinda ride time in. Now for the 3rd.. I'm sure you get alot of emails and messages for a face off or a challenge of some sort... now only if you think or feel you have the time in your insanely busy schedule , I'd love to ride side by side with you if possible to help me gage the distance differences in the jumps and woops and maybe so a few other things that's gonna help me not break another leg again because I'll never ever give up riding... I've been dying to say screw this lock down and go sailing thru the trails or the air with you're advice.. I only want your advice if I lose to a race with you with maybe a few practice laps first and then maybe tell me I'm too damn old and busted up to keep up with you. It would make a great video for a pro vs am.... either way I love ya dude
Freestyle trick for sure! "LET'S GO" CAM!
Suggestion for a new video. Do a line comparison choices type video. Here were I ride the tracks get super rutted from the soft dirt from the corners all they way through the straights and the jump faces-and landings. I have trouble picking ruts and lines especially in jump faces and corners. Just be cool to see y’all do a video and you explaining why you picked the lines you picked over what cam would pick!
That's awesome your in Vermont, had no idea you are that close. I've been wanting to look into taking a class but figured you were to far away. Gonna have to look into it, my cousin would definitely want to come too.
Awesome stuff
Cool series guys. 👍
Aj getting nasty with that first lap. I see you flexing off these doubles. lol thanks for the video.
I was at statefair MX last weekend. Swoll, Mumford, Deano and some other pros were there, I can't imagine how they rose so fast, obviously I'd think the same thing if I saw you there too AJ.
Holy crap AJ ! I thought Cam looked like he was going fast but then you looked twice as quick! ...and on a rando bike no less. Mate I know you've done a vid on corner momentum with a little grom a while back. Would love to see more on how to keep that momentum through corners and getting the right corner entry speed - braking, shifting, rolling. I've been working on it for months but I always seem to freak out when I'm rolling into that corner with any speed ...and i stall a lot in the apex of the corner 🤷♀️
new mics sound very good! 👍
The new mics sound so much better 👌
Nice videos !!! Keep woking dud you are great!!!!
Pretty cool, i would've like to see that best laps in a split screen view too. Cheers
Aj, we know that the difference between you and us is techniques, fitness etc. But what the difference between you and a top 3 AMA rider? Is it line selection, equipment, technics, or are they just taking more risk? Or maybe a little of all.
He talks about it on Gypsy Tales. Check it out.
Good question. The amount of seat time they’ve had in their lifetimes compared to me is likely 100x. Maybe more. So they’re just more confident on their bikes, stronger on their bikes, etc. equipment makes tiny bit of difference, not huge. For me personally, it’s just lack of time spent training on the bike.
Awesome stuff as always. AJ, this is Roman from your NJ class on memorial weekend. Any private lessons available in a month or so over at Tomahawk? My friends and I are willing to take a drive 😎 maybe a group of 3-4?
Take my CR250 on the track and see what you guys can do. Love the vids keep it up
I like the brcc logo on his helmet
I have never paid attention to outdoor MX times until this year. It’s unbelievable how much quicker the very top guys are than even the top SX guys who you would think would be very close. Seems like Roczen is always top 1-2 times and then we see some times from AC, Sexton, Dylan and Tomac. Then you go and take a look at times by Webb, Barcia, AP, etc and it is incredible that there is such a difference (2-5 full seconds….not tenths). Then you compare them to the mid pack and back markers and it is like a totally different level. I’m actually somewhat surprised that they are even on the track at the same time. I guess you can’t have a track with 5-7 guys, but dang, when guys are 7-15 seconds behind and just getting in the way, you start to wonder what the point is. Every other sport I have raced or followed, an “expert” level racer would be slightly off of a “pro” and often a bit younger and coming up thru the ranks. But wtf do they do with guys that are too old to ride 250 class, yet are slower than half the 250 guys? It’s a little weird, but I guess there just aren’t enough top talent guys to field a full class? I have never seen a race series where the top guys are so much faster than the rest of the field, and there not be a mechanical problem. It’s probably always been like this, but I just never looked at the data.
I also kind of figured that it might just be due to the variable terrain and just hitting a section slightly different or hitting a rock or a rut and making the times much different. But both of these guys were very consistent in times and that is impressive
And for record, I’m not saying I could ever compete with these riders, because there is no way in hell I could ride at that level. And I guess that’s the point. The very top few are there for a reason. To back we don’t get more euro guys coming over here like Herlings, etc, to see more competition at the front.
Good content
Red gear with green boots actually looks pretty banging.
Hi AJ. Will you race any outdor race this summer? Great channel by the way👍❤️🇺🇸
So many rocks!!!!! Hahahahhahaha
Gonna have to get a vid of my track to show ya what rocks are.
Totally good advice squeeze with your legs and elbows up for sure! And don't put that that foot down! Standing up or squatting in attack mode for sure! IF you can, especially while executing a jump face. Ride on all brother's of the DIRT!🏁 oops and sisters. Sigh "Need to throw a leg over"
I think Cam may have held his breath on his entire last hot lap..haha. He was going for it! I liked this format though, really makes your technique stand out.
Good vid
Well as you know one of the most important things for Rider is to get a solid brake tap technique so lets see you get him doing those in the next video
he be going fast
I am from Vermont way up north in Franklin County!
WHAT YOU CAME TO VT!! Ugh I would of totally snuck up to meet you lol
Kudos to Kip for lap time keeping.
Sweeeeeeet! Jumps for me! But every time I watch I learn a thing or two..or three or four! Ok, lots of (sniff)..be safe guys
I thought cam was good but damn Aj first lap was warp speed...
i saw mxgp riders live and my first impresion was they have the same speed in straight than in corners wich is insaneeee
You guys are kind of near me I'm up in Maine y'all should come up riding one day
Wheelie contest next!
How's the training going for the supercross season?
Cam you gotta use the clutch more in corners or ruts
A bit more in depth but It would have been cool if you used the telemetry on the go pro to show speeds for each of you at different parts of the track. Love the videos
Yea missed opportunity on that one. Darn!
It looks like Cam coasts way more coming into corners. Dunno if I can't always hear the brakes, or if he's actually coasting.
O'neal gear are really good. I only wish that they would go a little more TLD on their color scheme
5 seconds...that's insane. How much quicker do you think a Webb or Tomac would be than AJ? Cam would never want to ride his track again
Hell yeah 802
Does cams hour meter read 7.8hr? If so that’s what mine is at exactly on my 2021 kx250 😂 I tried to zoom in and was like holy crap if we have the same bike and same amount of time on them lol😂
I wanna see privateer vs factory series
Where abouts in vermont? I've lived here my entire life and have rode bikes my entire life. I'd love to see the track but highly doubt you'll reply haha. Ride on!!
You should go to sandlot mx in Florida and do a school kyle chisilm just did a school their
Do you think you could teach Cam to do a "pro" lap on your SX track at Tomahawk?
Cams probably gonna win a local race soon
I could hear the difference in rear brake usage, then Cams last run was less rear brake and it was easily hear able
One question i always have is how the bikes dont sound like they are shifting where as i am throttle off to shift then throttle on? Can you explain please.
@@douganderson7002 so just upshift while the throttle is wide open and no clutch?
Gotta use the same bike
This is a perfect example of what I have told people for years.
. Once in while we end up with a ridiculous jump at our track that gets knocked down after 2 or 3 months, then people complain. There seems to be a mentality among certain people at our track, and probably others, that you have to build large and/or dangerous obstacles and jumps to "separate riders"
We're looking at the proof that isn't the case. This is a very simple track, with nothing crazy, no gnarly big jumps or anything and AJ is still faster. If I got on a flat track with Ryan Villopoto he'd beat the hell out of me. The skill is just simply on another level of what I'm capable of. With time and effort could I be faster? Sure. But regardless of the scenario, a more highly skilled rider will be able to gap a lesser skilled rider and you don't have to put a large dangerous jump that only a few people will do on a track to do it.
Guys complaining about having to do 4 laps on a flat track and this is your comparison pro vs amateur..... lol. Home track no less.... kid needs more seat time. 😁. Just some constructive criticism. Just Breaking balls. Just me being jelly you have your own track. Be safe out there. 👍 keep Doin it.
This is 100%%%%
in some mountain biking disciplines we have experts between pro and armature. For example an 'all mountain' point to point race has beginners, advanced, experts, and pro. Pro men and and pro women are pros if you're fast enough to ride pro, you can ride pro, there are no sex or age separations, limitations or restrictions. beginners and advanced have age classes and sex separation, experts have sex separations but no age limitations. To race pro, you have to beat pros. In mountain biking, racing pro is the beginning of the end, the competition is fierce, it comes from all directions and is relentless.... i wish i could go back to riding expert. The perks are better, the people are friendlier and the money is better.
So I have been wondering about suspension set up. I've been watching your videos for a while now, and it seems no matter what bike your on, yours or borrowed, you're flying and turning phenomenal lap times. Is suspension set up not very crucial?
That’s just a good example of how rider is more important than bike. Suspension becomes super important when you get to high levels of riding and are trying to get that extra bit of speed, but I can ride anyone’s bike at a decent speed
It's the rider not the bike
you should race a local race at Tomahawk
If I have time this summer I definitely would like to do that!
Aj why don’t you race outdoors I feel like your a super fast outdoors rider
Circuit is a very easy more fast!
Reuploaded?
4 laps??! I could maybe go 2 sprinters and I'm calling it a day after that
Apparently Kip can NOT be trusted with a stop watch.
43.1 seconds... bah! His best lap was almost a whole second faster than what Kip said!
Sweet track though! Looks like great practice for entering/exiting corners.
Wasn't that how Ricky C. was so fast? Guy was an expert in corners and could rail them stupid fast...