Mahindra has to keep the payload that low on paper to stay under the required weight limit (i think it is 3750 pounds GVWR max, not sure) to be classified and sold as a SxS/UTV. It's a gov't thing, not Mahindra. I carry a1000 pounds in mine all the time.
Rotor can carry a much higher load than advertised. It can easily be converted to be made road legal but they only sell non-road legal Roxors. It can easily be tuned to develop a lot more power and road speed, but it is sold detuned? Why? To meet the requirements for low tax import. Mahendra imports a detuned and de-specced vehicle, and allows American mechanics and suppliers to tune and re-spec it to the American customer's requirements. Roxor supports a whole infrastructure of small American businesses around it.
These vehicles are heavily overloaded in the high range areas of India, sometimes carrying up to 21 people. Just calculating at 70Kgs. per head, that nearly 1500 Kgs. And mind you, this vehicle pulls such loads in off road terrain and quite steep conditions.
In India they can pull more than 2 tons load capacity in a trailer and in a cabin this is what the Willys Jeep the Mahindra MM40 and the old Mahindra Thar did that has the same engine as the Roxor.Sadly the Mahindra cannot enjoy their freedom of Willys Licence in the USA as they have Rights in India and has been jelous by FCA that claimed that Mahindra can only produce the Willys Jeeps in India but not in USA its a shame FCA is allowed in India to manufacture their modern Willys Jeeps apart from Mahindra Willys Jeeps if they feel they are both made the same products the FCA must not sell their products in India too why sell the Wranglers when there are Mahindra Thars already but everyone know they are not the same types of vehicles they are more different they claimed that Roxor copy the Jeep design but they denied that it's not a copy but a legal Rights for manufacturing Willys Jeep like the CJs and CJ 7 Licensed by the Willys but not the FCA.This FCA company is a two minded company that do everything to add only to its own interest better to fight in courage like GM win their Hummer against the FCA and just ignore the company who didn't Licensed them and respect the honour of the old Willys company to enable customers enjoy their many different modern Willys DNA vehicles from different company
I had owned an MM540 in India .. virtually the same vehicle for 10 years plus... regularly carried 500 kg ( 1100 pounds). In fact it is super smooth when heavily loaded!!
Automakers say all kind of stuff to pass the legal requirements. A great example is the gentlemen’s agreement between the Japanese car manufacturers. The key is to underpromise and over deliver. Mahindra is a master at that. In India, vehicles are costly and most families can only afford one. Hence, the machine needs to be reliable, cheap to own and fix. Indian automobile industry is super competitive. Brands like Toyota have a hard time selling just because the indigenous manufacturers are that good.
You young men seem to be confused about something. What the state says you can LEGALLY haul and what you vehicle can safely haul. A 5 axel truck can legally haul a gross weigh 80,000 I personally know drivers that have come out of the mill grossing 126,000 Lb. They do this all the time. Rarely do they have problems. My last pickup was 50 lb over weight MT. Don't sweat the small stuff.
even 50+ year old mahindra vehicles (100s of them) are still used even at tropical hilly areas of south India... since other load bearing vehicles can't run in that offroad conditions and elevations, most of the people uses mahindra vehicles to carry even timber to sawmills...
I am fairly certain ( 99.9%) the payload is unrated purposely to meet some government restrictions. Such as to keep it from being designated a “ truck” instead of a UTV. Taxes and tariffs and safety requirements would be drastically different.
We grew up commuting on this Utility Vehicle in India during the Mid-90s. It was our family vehicle. It was called the 'Mahindra Jeep' during our younger days. It's a beast of a machine for off-road and carrying heavy loads. Our family survived an accident as well.
The WW2 Jeep it was modeled after was technically a quarter ton payload (500 lbs) but could hold much much more. That's the maximum weight that kept the off road performance specified. Hill climb etc.
It has a leaf suspension in the rear, so you can go a lot more than this and it will ride better when there is more load. Although you would risk suspension to wear out quickly, they cost almost nothing. If you feel you are not able to add more weight, just add more leaf to the suspension and it will take more load.
The payload is limited because It's a safety issue, since the bed doesn't have a bulkhead like a traditional truckbed. The bulkhead keeps occupants safe from sliding cargo in case of a collision. That my theory anyway.
I wonder if this is like my Unimog? It's ex military 7.5 ton truck fully loaded...yet the payload is only 2.5 tons off road and 3 tons on paved. Why for such a big truck? well it's the axles that are the problem, they are not rated for high (sitting on top loads - Mog will pull a 20 Ton 4 wheel trailer) but the axles are going to have a lot of stress if a high load is put on them (on top).
The reason they rate it for 349 lbs is because there is no cab protection from the payload in the bed. There is nothing separating the load from crashing into the passengers if you have a front collision or roll it over something like that.. So it really boils down to a safety issue. The rating gets through the red tape of govt safety regulations and manufacturers liability.
Mahindra has to keep the payload that low on paper to stay under the required weight limit (i think it is 3750 pounds GVWR max, not sure) to be classified and sold as a SxS/UTV. It's a gov't thing, not Mahindra. I carry a1000 pounds in mine all the time.
Rotor can carry a much higher load than advertised. It can easily be converted to be made road legal but they only sell non-road legal Roxors. It can easily be tuned to develop a lot more power and road speed, but it is sold detuned? Why? To meet the requirements for low tax import. Mahendra imports a detuned and de-specced vehicle, and allows American mechanics and suppliers to tune and re-spec it to the American customer's requirements. Roxor supports a whole infrastructure of small American businesses around it.
Dude, save your back. You have a front end loader. Bring the loader to your Roxor waist high
These vehicles are heavily overloaded in the high range areas of India, sometimes carrying up to 21 people. Just calculating at 70Kgs. per head, that nearly 1500 Kgs. And mind you, this vehicle pulls such loads in off road terrain and quite steep conditions.
In India they can pull more than 2 tons load capacity in a trailer and in a cabin this is what the Willys Jeep the Mahindra MM40 and the old Mahindra Thar did that has the same engine as the Roxor.Sadly the Mahindra cannot enjoy their freedom of Willys Licence in the USA as they have Rights in India and has been jelous by FCA that claimed that Mahindra can only produce the Willys Jeeps in India but not in USA its a shame FCA is allowed in India to manufacture their modern Willys Jeeps apart from Mahindra Willys Jeeps if they feel they are both made the same products the FCA must not sell their products in India too why sell the Wranglers when there are Mahindra Thars already but everyone know they are not the same types of vehicles they are more different they claimed that Roxor copy the Jeep design but they denied that it's not a copy but a legal Rights for manufacturing Willys Jeep like the CJs and CJ 7 Licensed by the Willys but not the FCA.This FCA company is a two minded company that do everything to add only to its own interest better to fight in courage like GM win their Hummer against the FCA and just ignore the company who didn't Licensed them and respect the honour of the old Willys company to enable customers enjoy their many different modern Willys DNA vehicles from different company
Bro u are funny 😂 we own 13 units of Mahindra Bolero pickups we load 2.5 tons of goods on our vehicles
In India the Thar can officially tow 1.5 tons, I've managed 3 tons but not regularly.
I had owned an MM540 in India .. virtually the same vehicle for 10 years plus... regularly carried 500 kg ( 1100 pounds). In fact it is super smooth when heavily loaded!!
Automakers say all kind of stuff to pass the legal requirements. A great example is the gentlemen’s agreement between the Japanese car manufacturers. The key is to underpromise and over deliver. Mahindra is a master at that. In India, vehicles are costly and most families can only afford one. Hence, the machine needs to be reliable, cheap to own and fix. Indian automobile industry is super competitive. Brands like Toyota have a hard time selling just because the indigenous manufacturers are that good.
You young men seem to be confused about something. What the state says you can LEGALLY haul and what you vehicle can safely haul. A 5 axel truck can legally haul a gross weigh 80,000 I personally know drivers that have come out of the mill grossing 126,000 Lb. They do this all the time. Rarely do they have problems. My last pickup was 50 lb over weight MT. Don't sweat the small stuff.
even 50+ year old mahindra vehicles (100s of them) are still used even at tropical hilly areas of south India... since other load bearing vehicles can't run in that offroad conditions and elevations, most of the people uses mahindra vehicles to carry even timber to sawmills...
I am fairly certain ( 99.9%) the payload is unrated purposely to meet some government restrictions. Such as to keep it from being designated a “ truck” instead of a UTV. Taxes and tariffs and safety requirements would be drastically different.
We grew up commuting on this Utility Vehicle in India during the Mid-90s. It was our family vehicle. It was called the 'Mahindra Jeep' during our younger days. It's a beast of a machine for off-road and carrying heavy loads. Our family survived an accident as well.
The WW2 Jeep it was modeled after was technically a quarter ton payload (500 lbs) but could hold much much more. That's the maximum weight that kept the off road performance specified. Hill climb etc.
Mahindra makes some great vehicles, reliable and cost effective.
That diesel engine sounds good! And Mahindra is helping to keep the manuals alive!
It has a leaf suspension in the rear, so you can go a lot more than this and it will ride better when there is more load. Although you would risk suspension to wear out quickly, they cost almost nothing. If you feel you are not able to add more weight, just add more leaf to the suspension and it will take more load.
The payload is limited because It's a safety issue, since the bed doesn't have a bulkhead like a traditional truckbed. The bulkhead keeps occupants safe from sliding cargo in case of a collision. That my theory anyway.
I wonder if this is like my Unimog? It's ex military 7.5 ton truck fully loaded...yet the payload is only 2.5 tons off road and 3 tons on paved. Why for such a big truck? well it's the axles that are the problem, they are not rated for high (sitting on top loads - Mog will pull a 20 Ton 4 wheel trailer) but the axles are going to have a lot of stress if a high load is put on them (on top).
The reason they rate it for 349 lbs is because there is no cab protection from the payload in the bed. There is nothing separating the load from crashing into the passengers if you have a front collision or roll it over something like that.. So it really boils down to a safety issue. The rating gets through the red tape of govt safety regulations and manufacturers liability.