Off-Road Comparison: Mahindra Roxor Vs. 1948 Willys CJ-2A Jeep

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2018
  • Jalopnik's David Tracy compares the Mahindra Roxor and the The Willys CJ-2A and sees how they hold up in various conditions. CLICK HERE FOR MORE: jalopnik.com/heres-how-the-ma...
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  • @StoneyRidgeFarmer
    @StoneyRidgeFarmer Před 5 lety +267

    Ok that's got me sold! Selling my WIllys and going with a Mahindra! WOooo! Reliability and utility! That's what we need on our farm!!

    • @chickensfloat7427
      @chickensfloat7427 Před 3 lety +1

      @Sterling Pierce wow i can sign up and get my card info stolen! Im so glad you have 2 acounts to try to scam people. FLIXZONE IS A FAKE MOVIE SITE DONT GO ON IT

    • @arunchandramathi9572
      @arunchandramathi9572 Před 2 lety +5

      Thanks bro
      Makes us proud from India
      Basic design is from US though

    • @sachinsharma9974
      @sachinsharma9974 Před 7 měsíci

      Did you bought one?

    • @russellsmith3825
      @russellsmith3825 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I've thought about modernizing a CJ with a diesel

    • @Winterstick549
      @Winterstick549 Před 2 měsíci

      I'll buy your Willies!!

  • @justicepossible798
    @justicepossible798 Před 5 lety +363

    Tiny tyres vs big tyres nice comparison...good job

  • @stevepurdy2451
    @stevepurdy2451 Před 6 lety +1204

    Fit the Mahindra with the same size tyres as the Willys then compare

    • @MK-ny7tp
      @MK-ny7tp Před 6 lety +90

      Steve Purdy this is a totally dumb video.

    • @cwarner742
      @cwarner742 Před 6 lety +29

      Steve Purdy they got the toy on loan and had to get something on video. Zero F__ks given.

    • @stevepurdy2451
      @stevepurdy2451 Před 6 lety +37

      Subjectivity over Objectivity...Zero intelligence given :-)

    • @dakotadriggers8838
      @dakotadriggers8838 Před 5 lety +16

      And remove the sway bars

    • @fugly3573
      @fugly3573 Před 5 lety +15

      And price comparison?

  • @The_Hi_Life
    @The_Hi_Life Před 5 lety +205

    Jeep had much bigger tires... Roxor would've done much better with the same sized tires.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 3 lety +3

      They both had street tread and were aired up hard.

    • @harsh9558
      @harsh9558 Před 3 lety

      @@-oiiio-3993 Oo

    • @harsh9558
      @harsh9558 Před 3 lety +1

      @@-oiiio-3993 how u came to know?

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 2 lety +1

      @@harsh9558 'Twas obvious.

    • @vandeshiv177
      @vandeshiv177 Před rokem

      It's all about customer budget. It's cheap and best in quality then other brands

  • @swiftx1989
    @swiftx1989 Před 6 lety +978

    The Roxor is built in Detroit, MI, which is way more than you can say for many Jeep products today. The comments about the Mahindra being an "eBay CJ" or "knockoff" are hilarious and ignorant. Mahindra has been making Willys vehicles *under license* just 3 years after it was available to US civilians in 1945. Today they are a 15 billion $ company built mostly on the strength of one product, the Jeep CJ. So if Jeep is a legend, Mahindra is it's greatest living tribute. Go to India and see for yourself how these vehicles are used before passing judgment!

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před 6 lety +23

      Jeeps have long been made in Toledo, Ohio, and most still are. That's where Willys-Overland was based, then American Motors took over... The Renegade is assembled in Italy, but the engine and transmission are made in the US.

    • @swiftx1989
      @swiftx1989 Před 6 lety +106

      Andrew Martin that's not the point I was making, but the Wrangler is the only Jeep product still built in Toledo (though not in the same plant as the original Willys). Renegade and Compass are both made outside the US and are Fiat platforms. The Grand Cherokee is a Mercedes platform but built in Detroit. The Cherokee probably has the most Jeep influence and built in Illinois, but it's still a part-Fiat. Meanwhile Mahindra has been building rugged body-on-frame SUVs and pickups true to the original Jeep heritage the entire time since the 50s, and a share of their profits have come back here to the US in licensing royalties. So this isn't some Chinese knockoff built to look like the real thing.

    • @jnsbmi
      @jnsbmi Před 6 lety +111

      VK Really VK !!! The Mahindra GPs have been hauling Artillery and god knows what else the Indian Army makes it haul is because the company bribes the minister to buy their product !!! I am impressed at the level of your stupidity.

    • @wrongtarget5523
      @wrongtarget5523 Před 6 lety +32

      Swiftx, I think this chat is a India bashing session. So I do not think you are going to get much thumbs ups. Sorry buddy :(

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin Před 6 lety +30

      Ajay -- Why do you say that? Was anything I said not true? Other than I went off on a little tangent from SwiftX's original post, I didn't speak unkindly about Mahindra or the Roxor. I was thinking that there were two production lines in Toledo, the Wrangler and either the Compass or Cherokee, but I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. My 2005 Jeep Liberty Renegade was built in Toledo... I now own a 2017 Renegade Trailhawk, and I really like the Roxor, but I can't justify owning one, especially since it's not street legal. If I owned a large ranch or farm, I might get one... BTW, my dad was an engineer with Chrysler for 20 years, and my great-uncle worked for both Chrysler and AMC -- I am fairly familiar with the company heritage.

  • @gyulatakacs1824
    @gyulatakacs1824 Před 6 lety +641

    Those are made in Michigan....thumbs up to Mahindra for that.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety +38

      Technically only final assembly happens in Michigan, all parts are shipped from India

    • @Billy123bobzzz
      @Billy123bobzzz Před 5 lety +3

      @@cpufreak101 You are right Justin, I just verified that.

    • @thetetons744
      @thetetons744 Před 5 lety +24

      @@cpufreak101 hey still gives americans more jobs I suppose

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety +2

      @@thetetons744 not as many as you think though. It only takes a team of like 5 people to assemble a car from a CKD

    • @kenwrightlucky1
      @kenwrightlucky1 Před 5 lety +3

      Mahindra is made in India . It's a copy of the Willys Jeep. Sorry , I apologise. It is built in Michigan .

  • @brutallyhonestmf5578
    @brutallyhonestmf5578 Před 5 lety +594

    Title should be MODIFIED Willys vs STOCK Mahindra.

    • @danthedude89
      @danthedude89 Před 5 lety +30

      I think that Willys only has tires and a rattle can paint job and honestly the original military ag style tires probably would have done better in the mud. Plus the Roxor starts at 20gs, I could do plenty of mods to a Willys (not to mention saving it from rusting into nothing) that would make it shit all over a Roxor for 20g's. Plus the argument could be made over the Roxor being brand new and the Willys has probably seen well over 150,000 hard miles.

    • @justadbeer
      @justadbeer Před 5 lety +15

      @@danthedude89 - I'm a huge Jeep fan and like you, I hate seeing a grand old Willys rusting into nothing. Personally, I think this is a BS comparison anyways as 1948 Willys are pretty hard to come by these days. Also, the Roxor is starting at 15k (saw my 1st truck load of them today in fact) so spending a grand on tires, and a poor mans lift (new shackles, which is what we did to all of the CJ's back in the day and they worked just fine) would make this thing just perfect. That turbo diesel is a huge plus. As is, I can easily see these used on large farms and cattle ranches as well as safari vehicles.

    • @himanim4279
      @himanim4279 Před 5 lety +2

      @@danthedude89 roxor starts at 15k

    • @Pontiac65Cat
      @Pontiac65Cat Před 5 lety +1

      How is the willys modified? Looks stock to me.

    • @Agent.K.
      @Agent.K. Před 4 lety +4

      Branon Fontaine
      Hillbilly is butthurt lol!

  • @nimesh4557
    @nimesh4557 Před 3 lety +101

    Obsessive off-roader:
    Wears no helmet in decades old willy, but needs protection on Roxor with a roll cage.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 2 lety +3

      You'll look better driving through the Pearly Gates in a Willys.

    • @ShivKamalUpadhaya
      @ShivKamalUpadhaya Před rokem

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @supremeleader5516
      @supremeleader5516 Před rokem

      Biased video against Mahindra, they wanna show that roxer is less capable and less safe

  • @dgriderjw
    @dgriderjw Před 6 lety +94

    God...this was like watching the special olympics with 4x4's...

  • @hungryorphan7711
    @hungryorphan7711 Před 6 lety +398

    I'll have a mahindra on the rox

  • @theirishaxe9405
    @theirishaxe9405 Před 6 lety +185

    That's funny you wear helmets in the vehicle with a full roll cage but not the open top death trap

  • @ashwin6188
    @ashwin6188 Před 6 lety +213

    Looks like Willy's has a modified suspension and wider tyers

    • @davidtracy152
      @davidtracy152 Před 5 lety +9

      Stock suspension, 31x10.50 tires.

    • @seananon4893
      @seananon4893 Před 5 lety +3

      That Willy’s was totally ancient stock junk, it made me sad actually, that Jeep needs to be in the hands of someone willing and able to upgrade it.

    • @cammedls3532
      @cammedls3532 Před 5 lety +1

      @@seananon4893 junk?

    • @ongoingcoyote5601
      @ongoingcoyote5601 Před 3 lety +1

      Sean Anon no restore it and use it but not abuse it

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 2 lety +1

      @@seananon4893 A bone stock CJ2A is far from being 'junk'.
      It actually would have done better with original stock issue 6.00 x 16 NDT tires or the upgrade 7.00 X16 that were available as original equipment.

  • @supersami7748
    @supersami7748 Před 6 lety +60

    Having owned over a dozen Jeeps since the mid 60’s (and loving them I still have one) including 3 flat fenders starting with a MB. One thing to take into consideration on the ramp test is the fact that on any pre 1976 CJ or flat fender with springs (as in width and length) at least half the flex is in the frame. The older the Jeep the more flex!

    • @Upliftyourbrothers
      @Upliftyourbrothers Před 6 lety +5

      Super Sami not to mention those old leafs had had 60 years of off road break in.

  • @Infinitrium
    @Infinitrium Před 6 lety +71

    A set of locking axles, sway-bar disconnect and some beefy off-road tires and the Roxor would have been almost unstoppable

    • @ancientschool
      @ancientschool Před 6 lety +4

      That's why I drive a JK Rubicon.

    • @snellsworld2648
      @snellsworld2648 Před 6 lety +1

      It's why with my JK Sport I put air lockers in it and I can lock them in 4 hi also.

    • @sive1231
      @sive1231 Před 5 lety +2

      You now have 3 options of lockers with the Roxor.

    • @jeffrooke4723
      @jeffrooke4723 Před 5 lety +1

      I have 2 JKUs an 08 and a 14 Rubicon. As far as getting around off road, my first Jeep a 76 CJ5 was better than anything made after the TJ series!

    • @kevintomb
      @kevintomb Před 5 lety +8

      @@ancientschool except any new jeep is criminally over priced for what it is...

  • @AimlessMoto
    @AimlessMoto Před 6 lety +563

    You're driving a vehicle with a roll cage and seatbelts... but wearing helmets... then you're in a 70 year-old open-top Willys with lap-belts (maybe?) and no helmet.... Not the brightest bulbs in the box.

    • @Wooskii1
      @Wooskii1 Před 6 lety +54

      I noticed that, I'm sure It has to do with some red-tape involving the press use/rental of the roxor, or OHV park rules involving side by side/ UTV vs. registered road legal vehicle helmet rules... Did you not think of that? LOL

    • @Bennyboy46a
      @Bennyboy46a Před 6 lety +14

      i know that where i live, if its an "off highway vehicle" be it a side by side or atv, legally you have to wear a hemet, whereas a road legal vehicle you do not.

    • @aOldRustyTruck
      @aOldRustyTruck Před 6 lety

      we don't wear helmets in our side by side?

    • @RaghunandanReddyC
      @RaghunandanReddyC Před 6 lety

      lol

    • @keithlucas6260
      @keithlucas6260 Před 5 lety +1

      My Odes Dominator 800 is street legal and less expensive, plus has 2wd hi/lo, 4wd hi/lo and 2wd diff lock and 4wd quad lock.

  • @01SaharaEdition
    @01SaharaEdition Před 6 lety +73

    So the CJ has worn out springs, the Mahindra has new springs. RTI ramp was a bad test

    • @ronnielink579
      @ronnielink579 Před 5 lety +2

      I agree. Lots if trAvel with old suspension

    • @eyellgeteven9928
      @eyellgeteven9928 Před 5 lety +4

      The Roxor's frame is boxed too...that takes a lot of flex out of it right there. The CJ is super flexible not only because of worn springs, but because of worn EVERYTHING! The frame and body has flexed an insane amount of times in 75 years, and everything has loosened up over the years. Guarantee the CJ was a shit ton stiffer when it was brand new, just like the Roxor.

  • @wobsanicknick7865
    @wobsanicknick7865 Před 6 lety +170

    Fit the same tyre as Willy's and you will see the power of roxer

    • @Ken19700
      @Ken19700 Před 5 lety +10

      They should both have stock tires for an accurate comparison.

    • @robertvulliet3278
      @robertvulliet3278 Před 5 lety +4

      Ken MacMillan do you mean that both vehicles should have the Roxor tires or the stock tires that each came with? Because with matching ride height from the tires would help make for a fair comparison.

    • @Ken19700
      @Ken19700 Před 5 lety +3

      No, the Roxor should have its stock tires and the 2A should have whatever it came with in 1948. Probably old school military tires, Coker still makes them.

    • @jalee6587
      @jalee6587 Před 5 lety +5

      The roxor needs lockers

    • @Ken19700
      @Ken19700 Před 5 lety +3

      There's an OX Locker available as an option when you buy it.

  • @mcearl8073
    @mcearl8073 Před 6 lety +65

    It’s a shame you can’t use the roxor on the road. They should sell it as a “kit” where you just have to bolt a few parts on and slide around the crash test safety and vehicle standards a bit. It’s not like a Willy’s made today would ever pass either. I think they’d sell the hell out of them if they could be used on the road. It’s probably safer than most old Jeeps anyway with newer parts and working brakes.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety

      Technically some states allow you to register them with some modifications, but they don't meet road emissions regulations so it's technically illegal.

    • @jasbir710
      @jasbir710 Před 5 lety +6

      Import mahindra thar you can get new one around 12 grand

    • @skyhawkpilot172
      @skyhawkpilot172 Před 5 lety +4

      If it there were a way to make it street legal, the Wrangler would suffer greatly. I liked wheeling in my TJ, since I traded it off, I have had no desire to fork over the cash for a newer Wrangler just to scrape through the brush and bury it in the mud. I would buy a kit just for a new open tub vehicle.

    • @dot6441
      @dot6441 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jasbir710 yea but consider only the new mahindra thar 2020 version. Older one was tough but veryyyy uncomfortable vehicle. New one is comfortable, tough and good looking too in my opinion

    • @larryborn1082
      @larryborn1082 Před 3 lety

      There are quite a few folks here in CO that have found a way to get them registered. Get the computer flash and they will run about 75mph ;)

  • @kennethlaw5216
    @kennethlaw5216 Před 5 lety +46

    Why no helmet in an open Willy's, but you wear one in the roxor. Lol

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety

      Legalese red tape primarily since it was a press car at a public off-road park, either the property owners or Mahindra made them wear them.

    • @madhousediy5050
      @madhousediy5050 Před 5 lety +2

      Maybe because the Roxor is legally a side by side, so helmets are required, like a quad? Willys is just an old truck...

    • @ajaxsid9034
      @ajaxsid9034 Před 3 lety +1

      That's racist 😤😂😂

  • @AimlessMoto
    @AimlessMoto Před 6 lety +74

    You saw it here folks... John Denver is alive and he loves him some mediocre off-roading.

  • @Raycolorido
    @Raycolorido Před 6 lety +49

    See guys, thats what has to be done, take the usless shit out of a 4x4 and you get what is really important. this mahindra is the best option if you want the retro Jeep experience without the problems of an old car.

    • @carbonfiber492
      @carbonfiber492 Před 5 lety +2

      Raycolorido Suzuki doesn’t exist in your world I’m guessing

    • @ZILOGz80VIDEOS
      @ZILOGz80VIDEOS Před 5 lety +3

      Also without feel guilty bashing up a 70+ year old survivor.

    • @boowhiteghostboo
      @boowhiteghostboo Před 4 lety

      this is the correct take

  • @Brian-ff7tw
    @Brian-ff7tw Před 6 lety +214

    Why do you need a helmet on the mahindra, and not the Willys?

    • @BrendenPragasam
      @BrendenPragasam Před 6 lety +29

      randy higgins cause nobody trusts a copy

    • @apeingit247
      @apeingit247 Před 6 lety +49

      Because it is classified as a side by side off-road vehicle, the jeep came before anyone thought safety was important and is grandfathered in as far as not having to wear belts and helmets, I'd wear a helmet in that jeep before the fully caged Mahindra though.

    • @Trussme96
      @Trussme96 Před 6 lety +16

      The Roxor is a side by side. Its not road legal so its sold as an ATV.

    • @hungryorphan7711
      @hungryorphan7711 Před 6 lety +34

      Because if you die in the willys you die jeeping

    • @Willysman67
      @Willysman67 Před 6 lety +10

      Simple: Park rules.

  • @sony5244
    @sony5244 Před 5 lety +47

    I have driven and own both the willys and the mahindra for more than 10 years. I have a lot of experience with both these vehicles and according to me the mahindra's engine, gearbox and suspension is better and more realiable than the willys. I use the mahindra to pull a trailer which can easily pull about 1200 kg... According to me considering the price , the mahindra is by far the best 4x4 vehicle available.

    • @ZILOGz80VIDEOS
      @ZILOGz80VIDEOS Před 5 lety +2

      Plus it's a hell of a lot less ugly than most UTVs and you don't have to feel guilty bashing around a 70+ year old car.

  • @josephhoma1206
    @josephhoma1206 Před 5 lety +17

    "You don't even need hill descent control"!! He exclaims Its called a manual transmission

  • @tyler12ddm
    @tyler12ddm Před 5 lety +10

    The Roxor did well all things considered. The biggest advantage to it though I think is that it's brand new. That means no rusty tub, no hack job fixes, a solid frame, and a fresh engine. The thing with the Willy's is that even though it's been time proven, I'd hate to have to put my faith in rusty old shit that you never know what's going to happen. I'd hate to get out on the trail and have a water pump or god forbid an oil pump go out on a high mileage, high hour motor like that. Especially if you had to be by yourself. Overall though, I think that the Mahindra has a place in the market, especially considering it costs just as much as a new side x side anyways.

  • @Willysman67
    @Willysman67 Před 6 lety +79

    Good video except for the excessive use of "send it" and lack of driving experience. Slow isn't how you conquer mud especially with ATs. Also you don't need to start in 1st gear in low range. Either vehicle will start even on a hill in second gear low. Yah a comparison with equal size tires and one sway bar link removed would be an excellent follow up. Keep having fun and make more videos.....

    • @seananon4893
      @seananon4893 Před 5 lety +1

      Finally!!! Someone here who knows WTF they are talking about. 😆

  • @derweibhai
    @derweibhai Před 6 lety +12

    I have a 1985 Mitsubishi J54, and other than getting parts for it, it is awesome. They are a right hand drive 2.7 Liter diesel Jeep CJ3b.

  • @PureCountryof91
    @PureCountryof91 Před 6 lety +38

    Looks like the willys has bigger tires honestly..

  • @JamesAllmond
    @JamesAllmond Před 6 lety +118

    Both vehicles would have done better with proper off road tires. Would think the off road only vehicle would come with something other than glorified street tires.

    • @Daniel123Sicat
      @Daniel123Sicat Před 6 lety +12

      JamesAllmond BFG all terrain KO2s are great tires offroad. The one one the jeep looks more like a street tire to me

    • @SumanRahaman
      @SumanRahaman Před 6 lety +3

      Wish. Mahindra would release THAR Daybreak in us

    • @johnthefox6239
      @johnthefox6239 Před 6 lety

      Those tires are ballons on that little Willy.

    • @viveksome
      @viveksome Před 5 lety +1

      And proper drivers

    • @mylifeisajokeorisit
      @mylifeisajokeorisit Před 2 lety

      Cj2A is not even a off road jeep it’s a farming jeep like a tractor

  • @NuggetHeads
    @NuggetHeads Před 5 lety +4

    As long as you guys are having fun that's all that counts. Agree with using same size tires.

  • @AimlessMoto
    @AimlessMoto Před 6 lety +23

    The Willys has light truck tires on it... in an ALL SEASON tread... wtf?

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 Před 6 lety +45

    The Roxor was getting high centered because of the smaller tires. I also would have disconnected the sway bar for better articulation. But great video otherwise.

  • @MartinScheuerJr
    @MartinScheuerJr Před 5 lety +4

    Man, I wish that roxor could be made road legal where I live. Pretty sweet. Good review brother!

  • @aryank1ng748
    @aryank1ng748 Před 6 lety +55

    I am from India..
    And here in India, Cars made by Mahindra are as Rugged and flexible as Jeep there in States. I've seen Mahindra's SUVs aging as 45 years old and they still do stuff like CJ2 or This Whillys Jeep...
    Mahindra has mastered the Science of making Rugged and Cheap SUVs over the years and now only makes SUV, Mini SUV, Crossover, Etc.. No Sedans or Hatch Back..
    There are only 2 issues with all Mahindra cars..
    1. Under power
    2. A lot of Body roll
    If you're living the States and want a real off-roader which you can actually take off-road without any fear of damaging the car like with a Land Rover or a fully equipped Wrangler for a very cheap price..
    **Buy the goddamm Roxor**
    Plus you can customize it as your very own jeep!

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety +1

      Only issue is the Roxor's aren't road legal. A handful of states will allow you to register them but they're illegal at a federal level

    • @hallnbass2569
      @hallnbass2569 Před 5 lety +2

      That why we buy an old 80' 4x4 pick up, lift it and throw some mud terrain tires on it...cheaper than the mahindra and will out offroad it all day...'MERICA

    • @anandjainishere
      @anandjainishere Před 5 lety

      s hudson huh, what?

    • @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
      @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Před 5 lety

      We have honda pioneer and quads we are good here in the states with reliable off road toys

    • @godsownsoldier
      @godsownsoldier Před 5 lety

      @@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 hahaha play with your plastic toys

  • @jamdc2000
    @jamdc2000 Před 6 lety +1

    this is the kind of content I always hoped for, keep it up guys.

  • @somerandomclips429
    @somerandomclips429 Před 6 lety +15

    The Scorpio engine on roxor would have been great

  • @AdityaSingh-ll4ld
    @AdityaSingh-ll4ld Před 4 lety +7

    I have never driven in a terrain like this but looking at these dudes, even I can just tell they are doing it all wrong!

  • @ayushsaxena419
    @ayushsaxena419 Před 5 lety +3

    @13:12 Roxor to Willy's: Let's go home big brother, you have drank for the night.

  • @MiamiViceNarc
    @MiamiViceNarc Před 5 lety +1

    This video of you guys just having fun is so wholesome.

  • @TheChris1299100
    @TheChris1299100 Před 6 lety +1

    Fantastic! It's great to see a video support your guy's articles. I really like Truckyeah, keep up the good work!

  • @TOPOM42
    @TOPOM42 Před 6 lety +15

    I'm glad the use of "send it" tapper off in the end.

  • @mrswimmytanker7422
    @mrswimmytanker7422 Před 6 lety +12

    And the roxor saves the willies

  • @hatanbu1
    @hatanbu1 Před 4 lety +2

    Loved this video. I have a CJ4 Mahindra with a 2.1 Peugeot diesel. It has a c section open channel chassis like the willys . Great jeeps.

  • @Pistolmike59
    @Pistolmike59 Před 6 lety

    Great video! I was smiling the whole way through it!

  • @Slingsomelead
    @Slingsomelead Před 6 lety +30

    Willys is street legal, equivalently capable, and cheaper. So yeah

    • @aOldRustyTruck
      @aOldRustyTruck Před 6 lety +18

      Find me a Willys that cheap, that runs.

    • @darrenobrien7667
      @darrenobrien7667 Před 6 lety +6

      Bought one today for 800, Its gonna probably need a clutch and an engine rebuild but the body is good and mostly rust free and I drove it home.

    • @rerod72
      @rerod72 Před 6 lety +2

      $15,000 cheap ??? Put that much in a Willys and you could go ANYWHERE

    • @mikew9096
      @mikew9096 Před 6 lety

      It's a toy for people that don't know any different or for farmers thay want to tow a little with it around the farm. No where near practical as a wheeler. After needed upgrades, you'd be in it for 25-30k. For sticker proce, I could build a 1ton yj or TJ and have enough dough left to buy a single seater utv. Or look at it like a person that buys an Acura instead of just the Honda. Now they can say, look at me and how much I spent on a pointless nameplate.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety +2

      Having seen some new ATV's in the similar class (such as side-by-sides) I can say it's priced pretty competitively against them, it's just that they're taking an Indian car and selling it as an ATV, so it isn't as "optimized" as say a Polaris side by side

  • @0to60hondas4
    @0to60hondas4 Před 5 lety +31

    These guys are not overly awesome at driving off-road.

  • @Hubjeep
    @Hubjeep Před 5 lety

    Thank you for posting... this brings me back to CJ-YJ wheelin'... before JK bolt-on trail-queens. Where you had to actually weld before the 35's [huge tires for the time]!

  • @J_Calvin_Hobbes
    @J_Calvin_Hobbes Před 3 lety

    It's cool to see some youngsters out 'wheelin' . The video took me back to my 'wheelin' days at that age (3 decades ago), with a beater 72 Power Wagon short box, 4 speed manual granny gear. Main difference is I didn't have a cutie to go muddin' with me :D To all the snide comments about the tires, he did reference the difference at the end of vid.

  • @ddcraun
    @ddcraun Před 6 lety +98

    Too bad the Willy's has a lift and bigger than stock tires. The rti score would be much less

    • @andyblack5687
      @andyblack5687 Před 6 lety +16

      Yeah and why are people still stuck on RTI ramp scores anyway? Come on people. RTI ramps have their uses, like observing suspension movement in a controlled environment, but to me they should have faded out in about 2003 when people realized that super flexy suspension got them no farther down the trail than normal leaf springs and locking diffs. I mean you saw how the ROXOR kept going with one wheel off the ground. The guy had to tell him to back up to take the measurement. Ramp scores don't always equate to real world wheelability.

    • @noxscotchxtape
      @noxscotchxtape Před 6 lety +5

      I didnt think the cj had a lift

    • @aOldRustyTruck
      @aOldRustyTruck Před 6 lety

      that Willys had an open diff up front

    • @davidlewis5803
      @davidlewis5803 Před 5 lety +3

      It doesn't have a lift

    • @diacom496
      @diacom496 Před 5 lety +2

      May not have a lift, but it certainly has a broke in suspension where the Roxor is still factory stiff.

  • @rohittaurus911
    @rohittaurus911 Před 6 lety +7

    Its old School. Love it

  • @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO
    @AaronMartinCOOLVIDEO Před 5 lety +27

    You should be ashamed of calling a vehicle that survived 50 years of wear and tear a beater.

    • @shekharmoona544
      @shekharmoona544 Před 4 lety

      And it won a war.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 3 lety

      @@shekharmoona544 CJ2-A 'Jeeps' were built after WW2.

    • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
      @Beuwen_The_Dragon Před 3 lety

      @@-oiiio-3993 a lot of them were still built/rebuilt on 'War Surplus" in the mid-late 40s before moving on to fully new made CJ jeeps.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 3 lety

      @@Beuwen_The_Dragon Willys - Overland did not 'rebuild ' used or surplus military vehicles.
      Salvegeable, yet worn or damaged, 'WW2 Jeeps' (Willys MB and Ford GPW 'Truck, 1/4 Ton, 4X4') were refurbished by the Ordnance Department and their contractors to be reissued or to be sold as 'surplus'.
      None of the 'rebuilt' war Jeeps were converted to or sold as CJ2A.
      www.ewillys.com/2019/02/12/jeep-reconditioning-programs/#more-119216
      Only the very earliest of the civilian CJ2A Universal used body stampings and other parts that were 'still in the bin' from WW2 production.
      No CJ2A was ever produced during World War Two, though there had been some 'civvy' prototypes such as the original CJ2, Agri-Jeeps', and such.
      The early CJ, prototyped for agricultural use, also had a column shift.
      www.farmjeep.com/

  • @wrongtarget5523
    @wrongtarget5523 Před 6 lety +11

    Those are not the OEM tires on Willys. The vehicles are not really "like for like". The CJ has after market tires and not the standard OEM but a huge tire.

    • @sithinstructor
      @sithinstructor Před 5 lety +1

      The OEM tires would have performed better.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 3 lety

      If they had used 6.00 X 16 NDT tires they would have sailed right through that mud.
      The side bite on them is incredible in sand or mud and they clear themselves rather than mudding up.

  • @timokuusela5794
    @timokuusela5794 Před 6 lety +32

    I started to wonder why I still kept watching the video once I realized that it is just barely-old-enough-to-drive and totally inexperienced off-road drivers trying to compare those 4x4:s. It was starting to be almost painful until I tried to think them as my daughter and her bmw-friends. My son would do a lot better as he was trained to drive off road in the Finnish army. Anyway, thanks for the video , but please, try to find a dog collar that gives a 20000 volt shock if the one wearing it uses the words "send it"...

    • @dirtbeard108
      @dirtbeard108 Před 5 lety +2

      make a better video since you know how it should be done. I'll watch it.

    • @danielsanders4521
      @danielsanders4521 Před 5 lety

      The only point in time a professional driver should ever say send it is if they're in a drift competition. Even then it's still cringe.

  • @atranas6018
    @atranas6018 Před 6 lety +42

    u should compare them with Taliban's humvee, Toyota Hilux

  • @redpilledpatriot8484
    @redpilledpatriot8484 Před 6 lety

    Excellent vid fellas, thank you :)

  • @Darkfacts-h4p
    @Darkfacts-h4p Před 5 lety +2

    Mahindra can go more than that if u drive it well. I been driving Mahindra for at least 6 years awesome performance ...never upset my expectations

  • @combinationpizzahutandtaco3782

    Now we need the Cherokee golden eagle vs a new Cherokee

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety

      New Cherokee would break down on the way there

  • @Kickinpony66
    @Kickinpony66 Před 6 lety +4

    I'm looking forward to the L-134 rebuild video on the Willys.

  • @ojbarberena7090
    @ojbarberena7090 Před 6 lety

    awesome report, fun and informative

  • @kiranm6749
    @kiranm6749 Před rokem

    Father and son having fun in wild 😂. Such a delightful sight 😂😊

  • @EvanMoon
    @EvanMoon Před 6 lety +25

    Nothing like milkshake in your engine to make you frown

  • @Prodriver33
    @Prodriver33 Před 6 lety +137

    "And the mahindra was limited by..." THE FACT IT DIDNT WIN WW2!!!

    • @Prodriver33
      @Prodriver33 Před 6 lety +3

      😆

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 Před 6 lety +37

      Well the jeep didn’t win wwii. The soldier won it 🙄

    • @parassinghrana8652
      @parassinghrana8652 Před 6 lety +66

      Mahindra jeep was a part of Indian army when India defeated Pakistan two times

    • @supersami7748
      @supersami7748 Před 6 lety +46

      Prodriver33 India’s army was also the reason Britain didn’t get their butt kicked the first full year of the war.

    • @JamesAllmond
      @JamesAllmond Před 6 lety +19

      Only because they were building other stuff to support the war effort. You are aware India was all in for the WW2 war effort, right? Mahindra started building these right after the war for a bunch of really good reasons.

  • @leonardmuscato5284
    @leonardmuscato5284 Před 5 lety +2

    Great comparison! We need a street version of the Mahindra!

  • @kealiialoha1
    @kealiialoha1 Před 5 lety

    Nice honest reviow. Loved it!

  • @forestlawrencegrading9154

    I think if you took the Mahindra and took two of the next to the longest Leafs out of the leaf springs and had them arched you would have the ground clearance you need and it would be softer and you would get more articulation

  • @jeepcollector91
    @jeepcollector91 Před 6 lety +47

    I like both, the Mahindra and the Willys.
    But I'll still take a cheap 4.0L Jeep YJ over both.

    • @ahmedkhalil3144
      @ahmedkhalil3144 Před 6 lety +2

      The YJ is okay, but imo Willys/Kaiser Jeeps are much better. I don't like how AMC/Chrysler softened Jeeps over the years.

    • @berserk7111
      @berserk7111 Před 6 lety +4

      hard to beat the short wheel base, turn radius and narrow trac of older military style jeeps. i think they may have known what they where doing.

    • @snellsworld2648
      @snellsworld2648 Před 6 lety +2

      Willy's > YJ

    • @ericbuist8218
      @ericbuist8218 Před 6 lety +2

      Turning radius is actually pretty bad on flatfender Jeeps due to the closed-knuckle front axles. That's one area the YJ would have it beat.

  • @DolittleMccoy
    @DolittleMccoy Před 5 lety

    I've saw the Mahindra Roxor while driving my my local Offroad dealership. I haven't saw one up close and personal, So i decided to watch some videos about it. It's no slouch but nothing spectacular from what i've seen on the videos. I presently own a 1956 Willys CJ5, A 1954 Willys M38A1 Military Jeep, and a 1991 Jeep Wrangler YJ. I've also owned quite afew 70s/80 model CJ's aswell. From opinion and experience there's not many places where the Willys jeep won't go. They're my all time favorite off road vehicle.

  • @mattkelly9999
    @mattkelly9999 Před 6 lety +2

    A few of my buddies have willys jeeps one is a 45 willys with 33 inch super swamper tires. It goes through absolutely anything

  • @phatsmitty
    @phatsmitty Před 6 lety +21

    I hate to be Captain Obvious, but... put the Mahindra diesel in the CJ2A. Done.

    • @Pontiac65Cat
      @Pontiac65Cat Před 5 lety +1

      phatsmitty go devil 4 cyl is easy to fix on the trail. Huge plus.

  • @georgeyvette1656
    @georgeyvette1656 Před 5 lety +5

    You all really need to learn how to drive off road

    • @connorlee2450
      @connorlee2450 Před 5 lety

      just so you realize, because someone else said the same thing and i just copied the response:
      David Tracy
      7 months ago
      I mentioned the difference in tire size in the video, for the record.
      Second, everyone in this video is from the country-nobody from the city, not that it's remotely relevant.
      Third, three of the folks in the video have driven some of the country's hardest off-road trails in Moab. And two of us I'd consider highly experienced, having spent many years beating on Jeeps off-road (we even did it for a living).
      Should my friend have hammered the skinny pedal a bit more on the way out of that one mud hole? Maybe. But that didn't affect the outcome of the test, and I'd suggest you read the full comparison linked in the description for an in-depth analysis of how the two vehicles compare off-road.

    • @PhilipKaskela
      @PhilipKaskela Před 4 lety

      @@connorlee2450 should also learn to film videos. Shakey cam to the extreme

  • @randomthoughts1001
    @randomthoughts1001 Před 6 lety

    Love that diesel chatter.
    We enjoy our ROXOR. The service , not so much.
    No service issues . Farm Use tags in Virginia. 😎

  • @mikelane1542
    @mikelane1542 Před 3 lety

    Kids these days.
    With their air/ electric lockers controlled by a phone app, power steering n brakes....
    Bought my first CJ5, in 1979.
    Brand new on the lot, no top no backseat no power nuthin !
    258ci w/ T-18 granny 1st gear.
    Had the Jeep dealership mount a Warn winch...
    Swapped in some Dana 44's with Detroit lockers, 5.38 gears and 33" Monster Mudders w/ a 2" lift n some body trimming...
    I love that Jeep n still have it !

  • @thetman0068
    @thetman0068 Před 5 lety +4

    There is no reason that the Mahindra should not be street legal when the Willys is. I wish we lived in a world where people could do their own research and choose to drive what they want. Want a safe car? Buy one! Want a barebones 4x4? Buy one!
    So sick of stupid government regulation. Governments don't work for the people. They ought to be abolished for their suppressive bullshit.

    • @dpla9752
      @dpla9752 Před 5 lety +1

      Right? Drives me nuts. I love my CJ but I shouldn't be stuck looking at 40 year old cars if I want to buy a barebones utility vehicle.

  • @sherlockholmes9312
    @sherlockholmes9312 Před 6 lety +176

    Most foolish video i found on CZcams today😂

    • @sreesree6395
      @sreesree6395 Před 6 lety +6

      ADMIRAL GENERAL ALADEEN 100 tru .... u r correct

    • @preetrocks1
      @preetrocks1 Před 5 lety +2

      Alladin news!

    • @garnetgun
      @garnetgun Před 5 lety +3

      Assassinate them all

    • @omkr0122
      @omkr0122 Před 5 lety

      It's very Aladeen video I say!

    • @AnissaEx
      @AnissaEx Před 3 lety

      @@garnetgun I like the way you think!

  • @westcoastsingletrack7854

    Please do more videos with different cj Jeeps against it I love this video

  • @Anmol34
    @Anmol34 Před 2 lety +1

    Mahindra started off building Jeeps under license in WW2 and they've been building them ever since. The elongated versions are used in rural India as people movers, where the roads that are worse than the tracks in this video, with very little maintenance or professional mechanics around. They are not fast vehicles but those things are built to take a beating.

  • @pra3t0rian
    @pra3t0rian Před 6 lety +9

    Hashtag frame flex.

  • @kaihtheloner
    @kaihtheloner Před 6 lety +4

    The off road trial looks like the roads leading to my home. And I drive a small 800cc Suzuki to cross the massive craters xD But then again being in a third world country, I can't really complain.. I guess :/

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety

      Couldn't imagine seeing a Suzuki go through that unless it's a Jimny

  • @jameshowell3451
    @jameshowell3451 Před 4 lety +1

    Sorry, I can't finish watching this video..i guess I'll give ya an A for effort but you guys have a lot to learn lol

  • @destro513
    @destro513 Před 6 lety +2

    Like watching a bunch of squares try and roll. Jalopnik is dork central. But cute in a way.

  • @johnnyllooddte3415
    @johnnyllooddte3415 Před 6 lety +3

    yall are just tearing them up

  • @michaelteeple8704
    @michaelteeple8704 Před 6 lety +4

    Dam yall drive like most of these girls, never looking much past the hood. Its much better to look down the trail with some kind of plan on wher you are going and what a vehicle is even remotely capable of doing.

  • @joemonkyesudas7093
    @joemonkyesudas7093 Před 4 lety

    Oh what a comparison 👏

  • @pareshprajapati7916
    @pareshprajapati7916 Před 5 lety +1

    Deadly testing. Mahindra stood up to deadly testing of US of A. Thank you

  • @xconnorgrillox
    @xconnorgrillox Před 6 lety +4

    Watch the last ten seconds. "This poor jeep, oh gosh."

    • @davidtracy152
      @davidtracy152 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, it was shocking to see THAT MUCH water in that crankcase.

  • @BobPapadopoulos
    @BobPapadopoulos Před 5 lety +19

    For the love of God, stop with the "Send it"s. You're not even using it right and you sound like one of those parents trying to say "lit" and "fam" to relate to kids.

    • @aleksfoxtrot8044
      @aleksfoxtrot8044 Před 5 lety +1

      I was thinking the same thing! "If he says send it one more MFing time!!!!" Lol.
      Glad I'm not the only one.

    • @CasketsINC
      @CasketsINC Před 4 lety +1

      This whole video is cringy as hell!

    • @AnissaEx
      @AnissaEx Před 3 lety

      Horrible attempt at being a youtuber. This video is pure shite

  • @AB-uw3os
    @AB-uw3os Před rokem +1

    Over here in India, the CJ 2 fully restored would be worth two or more Roxors. So you now know which should have been the guinea pig.

  • @quadpit
    @quadpit Před 6 lety

    Great video I was wondering how the two would compare

  • @recpro7847
    @recpro7847 Před 6 lety +11

    Why not compare the Roxor to something you can buy new today or at least somewhat current? I don't get this.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 Před 5 lety +1

      Primarily since the old CJ2 is basically what it was modeled after

    • @Pontiac65Cat
      @Pontiac65Cat Před 5 lety

      Rec Pro how don’t you get it? It’s old vs. new. Pretty fucking obvious to me.

  • @jerrywalker5673
    @jerrywalker5673 Před 5 lety +4

    Mahindra needs a 4 inch lift... 33 inch tires and more hp and torque...

  • @Prairie7777
    @Prairie7777 Před 4 lety +1

    What do you expect with street tires and open diff's. Put some decent tires on both vehicles and lock up the differentials and you'd see a world of difference for both vehicles. Also, gear ratios are a whole different world. I think it's a really good thing that the Mahindra is being manufactured. It's really nice to see that you can buy a bare bones "Jeep" without all the plastic crap and build it from there. I think there's a whole lot of potential for the Mahindra. I own a '47 CJ2A Willys and with the upgrades that have been done to it, in my opinion, there's nothing finer BUT the potential with the Mahindra..... I think there's a lot of future fun and performance to be had. For Sure!

  • @JeepCherokeeful
    @JeepCherokeeful Před 6 lety +2

    Hey! It’s a worthwhile test?! Congratulations!

  • @Crelotus
    @Crelotus Před 3 lety +3

    This guy is really trying hard to loose on roxor 😂😂

  • @madjeepernh6834
    @madjeepernh6834 Před 6 lety +3

    Cj all day.

  • @joeeliyah2090
    @joeeliyah2090 Před rokem +1

    If you want all your wheels to turn when you are in mud/snow/on ice etc... just apply a little brake while driving and it will get rid of the one wheel peal.

  • @bazinga0236
    @bazinga0236 Před 6 lety

    Cool and fun review. Cool 60's style music from the MUD section of the video too. Where is that music from/artists? Thanks.

  • @jackthibeault8698
    @jackthibeault8698 Před 5 lety +3

    RoxOR not roxER lol

  • @Luck21st
    @Luck21st Před 6 lety +100

    INDIAN JEEPS can Climb on Anything..! ENGINES will be V.Small but Rough & Tough for Any ENVIRONMENT ! 💥

    • @akhil1781
      @akhil1781 Před 6 lety +11

      wrong..i have seen a lot of thar struggling to climb a 2foot ledge

    • @Luck21st
      @Luck21st Před 6 lety +1

      akhil krishna Thar is SHIT ! I'm Talking about Crazy Gypsy's !;💥

    • @stuarthunter2923
      @stuarthunter2923 Před 6 lety +1

      cute little buggy but wont rely on it for a long range tourer

    • @DushyntDabas
      @DushyntDabas Před 6 lety +5

      U do know buddy Gypsy is not Indian its Japanese, though I agree with you on mahindra.

    • @forkstrip1554
      @forkstrip1554 Před 6 lety +2

      Not with that kind of articulation they can't, but you can certainly upgrade the suspension.

  • @timothysmith5769
    @timothysmith5769 Před 5 lety +2

    I'm sure I've seen this puddle before.... in an old Laurel & Hardy flick.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 Před 3 lety

      Well, there's another fine mess... "

  • @Dirtkid98505
    @Dirtkid98505 Před 6 lety

    I could see the aftermarket. 7 slot grills, front and rear lockers, 2,4,6 inch lifts, rear discs, Engine tuners, governor deletes, rear seats, mbrp exhaust (lol), high horsepower injectors, snorkels, lights! lots of lights!, giant yeti cooler in the back, roof racks, rockstar wheels, folding winshield and much much more