CR-Touch vs BL-Touch - Which One Should You Buy?
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2021
- The BL-Touch has been around for years now and works great but Creality introduced their version of an auto bed level probe, the CR-Touch, so I wanted to provide an overview of both. In this video, I cover the differences between the two and provide my recommendation on which one to buy. I also have videos covering the install process from both units that I link to below.
If you have any questions on the content covered in this video, feel free to leave a comment below with them. I try to reply to all commented within 48 hours.
Resources
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Hardware
CR Touch on Amazon: geni.us/VwD0
BLTOUCH on Amazon: geni.us/AD6M
Ender 3 Pro on Amazon: geni.us/vIAIx
Ender 3 V2 on Amazon: geni.us/ur8YHM
HATCHBOX Filament on Amazon: geni.us/BJx0Gdj
Videos
CR Touch on SKR Mini: • CR Touch on SKR Mini
CR Touch Install Guide - Complete Walkthrough!: • CR Touch Install Guide...
Guide to Install a BLTOUCH on a Creality 32-bit Mainboard: • Guide to Install a BLT...
Marlin Firmware on Creality Board - Complete Guide!: • Marlin Firmware on Cre...
CR Touch With Marlin: • CR Touch With Marlin F...
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I hope you found this overview helpful! If you have any questions or would like other tips/tricks, just let me know in the comments.
That was an interesting printed fan shroud you showed at 4:02. Do you have more details on that?
@@gvdwatt Hi. Ya, here is a video on it czcams.com/video/s2SrByxIAI0/video.html . Its the one I used when I moved to my direct drive setup before I added the blower fan.
Great video!
Thanks!
Thank you!
You’re Welcome
Hey there, would this work plug and play on my Longer LK5 Pro?
Thank you for the video
Hi. I looked up the mainboard for that printer and it doesnt have a bltouch port so it wont be plug and play.
Him good comparision on both, for CR-Touch, is it need to enable "BLTOUCH_HS_MODE" ?
Hi. You dont need that enabled, it just makes the mesh process run faster.
I run 2 of each.. Both work as designed for me. But the CR Touch has a massive rattle while printing and its a bit larger than the BL. The BL runs with a red light and the CR has a blueish/purple light. IMHO the BL Touch is the better of the two even with the higher price. The rattle in the CR is really annoying, I keep checking it thinking my print failed. I just wish they still used the metal probe on the BL. I bent the plastic probe while using it on my Ender 5+. Happy Printing.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback, it seems people are in one camp or the other. I agree the rattling can be a little annoying.
Do you have firmware for a CR-10S with bigtreetech SKR mini 3 v3.0?
Hi. I dont sorry. I have it for the CR10, you could use that example file to cover what to change then enable the filament sensor. I think after the board swap the sensor is the only real difference.
Maybe you can help. I have a ender 3 pro with the Motherboard 4.2.7. I also have the new 3d pad 5" touch screen (not the V2 screen), and a CR touch. I can't find a firmware that works with both the touch screen and the CR. I was hoping you would know what firmware I would need.
Hi. I need to look into this one a bit more. I know they have special firmware for the screen and dont have any prebuilt versions that have both the screen and crtouch setup. I think i will end up buying the screen to try some things out.
@@3DPrintscape Yeah if you find anything can you update me. I've emailed customer support and it's been a month and no luck on the forums.
@@tooepic9432 Will do.
why didn't you run the deviation test on the CR Touch?
Hi. Honestly, i didn't think it would make a difference as the results can vary between devices and they are both rated the same. I just wanted to give a quick overview on how to run the test. I will be creating a more detailed video covering the deviation test more.
Can you use either one if you have a Micro Swiss All Metal Hot End? I’m new to the game.
Hi. Yes you can use either one.
@@3DPrintscape - outstanding, thank you!
@@damionchrist You're welcome
I bought a crtouch for my ender 6 and the crtouch broke before the first print it doesnt deploy the probe anymore, so im sticking with bltouch since it just works and pricewise its 10 € cheaper 49€ CR VS 39€ BL I wanted the cr Version for a cleaner look, but fk it never going with any CR named things since the CR 6 SE an aquaintance bought does not operate as it should as well as my cr touch, nope sticking with the ender series and not with anything with cr in its name
Hi. Thanks for sharing, sorry you had issues with the cr touch.
I now have Bl Touch on 5 of my 8 printers including a version 1 which is still working as good as the day it was installed, I don't have the confidence in Crealitys quality assurance or build quality to buy a CR Touch so any future purchases will be an Antclabs BL Touch.
PS Despite Creality launching this probe they still have not fixed the XY offset error to any of their ABL equipped firmwares
Hi. Thanks for the info. I always move my printers over to Marlin and fix that myself, but I understand where you are coming from.
I’ve had nothing but problems with my BL-Touch. CR-Touch all the way.
@@3DPrintscape Can moving to a different firmware help with layer shifting? I've been having problems with my stock firmware somehow shifting layers and I'm having difficulty on figuring out how to solve it.
@@a_d3mon It depends on whats causing it, but probably not. My guess is that you have a loose belt axis.
I can't even get my BL Touch to deploy, it does the startup extension and retraction, but when I autohome it, it crashes to the ground, without the tip ever deploying. Anyone know what's up there?
Hi. It sounds like the wiring doesnt match the firmware config. How is it wired and what firmware are you using?
@@3DPrintscape so, when I got it, the wiring was wrong, and that's what caused it to not deploy, but when I wired it according to the diagrams, it deploys when the printer switches on, but when autohoming, it crashes to the ground.
@@fizz113 Gotcha. There are two ways to wire the bltouch and the firmware config needs to match the way you choose. It sounds like the issue is there or the probe wires are revered (Not the ground, +5v, or signal).
@@3DPrintscape how do I know which is the correct configuration?
@@fizz113 Here, I think this article will help. 3dprintscape.com/guide-to-install-a-bltouch-on-a-creality-32-bit-mainboard/
How did you get to the code to uncomment that line?
Hi. Its part of the marlin build. I cover it more in this video czcams.com/video/pQ7WZST8sqk/video.html .
How would one magnetize a plastic probe?
Hi. The probe is plastic but the components in the bltouch aren't. This forum on reddit may help. www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/bhlvuv/improving_bltouch_accuracy/
@@3DPrintscape thank you so much for clarifying that for me. I ended up going with the CRtouch instead of the BLtouch but that forum still gives a lot of useful information.
@@morganpospeshil7374 You're welcome
Is the CRTouch basically a 3DTouch?
Hi. Its pretty close to a 3d touch/bltouch but the components are a bit different. The most noticeable difference is the medal probe.
it may not happen to everyone but my cr-touch has a rattling problem
the pin possibly is the thing rattleling
Hi. Thats interesting and not a good sign. My CR Touch doesn't rattle at all. It may be worth trying to exchange it.
@@3DPrintscape I have 2 of them they both rattle the same. It's really loud. There's a fix on thigiverse for it. It's basically a clip you manually install that secures it after probing.
@@dubbys I did notice that mine started to rattle some as well now. I may look into that clip.
Yeah mine rattled too. I tried to install a slim shrink tube on it but the heat killed the magnetisation I think, because it is a shitshow now. 50% chance to activate it. I need to pull the plunger out manually in a right time before the error reported. Starting a print is like 10 minutes because of homing issues. Accuracy is still high tho.
I bought 2 or 3 and use zero. Been printing a year and found simple is best. Microswitch on side.
Hi. I prefer to use one of the ABL options, it just makes things easier. That said, its not required.
CR-touch all the way. BL touch is too unreliable.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. It’s seems that people are pretty divided on this.