How Many Robot Masters Did Wily ACTUALLY Create?
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2022
- I know this rule wasn't clearly stated in the video, but I am only counting Robot Masters that had a numerical code/serialization attached to them. That's why (SPOILERS, if you care that much), Zero, for example, was counted, but not King. That's why I leave some of those up to your interpretation. There really isn't a definitive template that makes a Robot Master in the Mega Man series, so we'd be here all day discussing potential Wily-made machines if I didn't give myself some restrictions. Hope that makes sense.
Sources:
~ Windii's Stuff:
-- Archive of their Mega Man Stuff: archive.org/details/windii-gi...
-- Twitter (until that site goes under): / girlbossuran
~ Everything Else from the MMKB at megaman.fandom.com and the original print edition of the "Mega Man Robot Master Field Guide"
Track Listing:
~ Tengu Man's Stage - Mega Man & Bass (SNES)
~ Cut Man's Stage - Mega Man
~ Metal Man's Stage - Mega Man 2
~ Stage Select - Mega Man 2
~ Shadow Man's Stage - Mega Man 3
~ Bright Man's Stage - Mega Man 4
~ Gravity Man's Stage - Mega Man 5
~ Junk Man's Stage - Mega Man 7
~ Galaxy Man's Stage - Mega Man 9
~ Get the Punk Out - Mega Man 10
~ Overdrive Scramble (Special Stage) - Mega Man 9
~ Dr. Wily Capsule - Mega Man 10
Games Shown (in no particular order):
~ Mega Man: Powered Up
~ Mega Man 2
~ Mega Man III (Rockman World 3)
~ Mega Man 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, & 11
~ Mega Man V (Rockman World 5)
~ Super Adventure Rockman
~ Mega Man & Bass
~ Mega Man & Bass: Challenger from the Future (Translations here: www.romhacking.net/games/2499/ )
~ Mega Man X4
How did it take me so long to make a video with even less production value than the last? - Hry
Honestly, I actually like how Wily only made about 1/3 of the total Robot Masters in the series, it really shows how despite his desire to be better than Dr Light, he's far too willing to take shortcuts and just steal other people's work, seemingly only learning from this mistake with Zero, who I can imagine Wily spent most of his life working on, including all of his twilight years
Some side material like CD Dramas and Manga indicate Wily made even more of them; specifically in the 6 manga the RMs are stated to be Wily's seed players, while in the 10 CD drama he indicates the Roboenza patients were his sleeper agents the whole time.
@@austinreed7343
OG MegaMan had CD drama? Wow, how come this isn't more well known?
@@zettovii1367 I can't believe I forgot to look into those! Thank you @Austin Reed for mentioning that! I believe they're actually in that archive of Windii's I listed in the description along with the Super Adventure Rockman stuff. They should have subtitle functionality right in Archive.org's webplayer, so you don't have to download them, if you're interested.
All of that work, hatred, and spite, all for zero to become best friends with light’s final creation, X
You can look at this the other way around: Zero is proof that Wily was a brilliant engineer, possibly even moreso than Light... And that alone makes me think the robots he helped design or improved/finished should be added to his count.
Makes Wily an interesting character: He's a man of great genius and great talent, but its often wasted or neglected due to ambition and competitiveness.
Wily may have stolen a bunch of the Robot Masters, but you do have to appreciate all the work he did to turn them into combat machines. It's like taking one of those singing Chuck E Cheese robots and turning it into Iron Man with a mouse head.
Mega Man vs. FNAF
So taking Chuck E Cheese and turning him into Freddy Fazbear?
@@jokelethkurueisner9229 taking chuck-e-cheese and turning him into funtime freddy, since that one was actually made with the intent of kidnapping and murder
Ehh not impressive either
Most of these already had their abilities
Its more so turning a stove into a bomb, anyone can do it, dosen't mean you're smart
@@jesusramirezromo2037 my brother in Christ, he turned what was originally a Shepherd robot into a bunch of clouds that can shoot lightning and reform itself into a robot again. You cannot tell me that was his ability some of these had to have had no ability whatsoever.
I mean he still created 100% of his many fortresses, flying capsules, and space stations. So that must count for something
Nah, I just got done building my 50th space station last night. Wily got nothing on me
Plus all the non robot master bosses he has to make to protect his fortress such as the Yellow Devil
Naw... he stole those from other people. Old Woman Jenny use to live in that skull fortress with her five thousand cats... and then Dr. Wily just kicked her out... and most of the cats
But where the FUCK did he get the money and resources to build that ridiculous ass skyscraper he had in 10? That thing went all the way into the stratosphere!
So that's where the rest of Wily's budget went.
My headcannon on the DWN fiasco is that Wily's legal robot registration patent is notably cheaper than everyone else's, and also he just lets everyone freely choose to do it, making the process really practical and simple, making it so everyone uses the DWN numbers to save money and time, even Light gives Wily the rights when they do jobs together, and as a manufacturer, this also gives him some monetary benefits which he uses for his future inventions, part of the reason he gets spared a lot, even after all the things he did, is because without him, everyone has to pay a lot more for the other official legal robot registration patents, it's the perfect plan.
That's a very creative way of looking at it, I love it lmao
this is amazing
And it'd explain where he gets all his money from! Even though the individual patent may be much cheaper than others, it could very well gather the majority of the robot registration market because of its accessibility, amounting to a very big, very consistent fortune.
The original story behind Aqua Man's creation in 8's instruction manual is that he is a failed attempt at creating Frost Man, incapable of properly freezing the water in his systems, and thus made into a water-based robot master. Naturally, this would also make Aqua Man a Wily creation.
Apparently, later sources retcon this fact, making him a stolen and modified robot instead. This may be on account of Frost Man's backstory being that he was made from spare parts left over from Clown Man's modification. This would imply that there were SO MANY spare parts from Clown Man's modification Wily was able to not only make Frost Man, but managed to fail to make Frost Man the first time around and, as a result, make Aqua Man too.
It certainly is an odd retcon to make, since I feel like those two have the connection of both being water-based robots (unless it wasn't present in the original Japanese manual and they wanted to change that). Who knows what the people behind the scenes were thinking though, this franchise definitely has its share of inconsistencies lol.
Guess Wily just loved Clown Man that much
My Headcanon from the retcon is that Wily was very impressed with Aqua man's ability to manipulate water that he tried to replicate it... but failed to properly do so as his prototype machines kept freezing the water instead of bending it. This would result in Wily just deciding to steal Aqua man, but reusing the failed prototypes to build Frost man. Because he's made with Faulty parts however, Frost man suffers from robot health problems like low oil circulation as mentioned in his bio.
While the idea Wily could make a whole giant from Clown man's spare parts is funny... I mean just look at clown man. The dude is tiny compared to Frost.
@@flameslinger8820 oh no, frost man was made from spare clown man parts
@@bestaround3323 I know he is in canon. This was just my own Headcanon
Zero was his redeeming factor. He out done himself creating that beast of a robot. Good job tho.
And seeing as he long outlived both Mega and X (Light's two magnum opuses), and wouldn't die until his final fight with Weil? Yeah, that was one hell of a legacy.
@@SabeNo-rh7mb considering how freakshly powerful Zero is. The guy really was a genuis
@@SabeNo-rh7mb Zero's got his ass handed to him multiple times though throughout the games, just in the X series.. I wouldn't call him all that powerful!
Wily always wins
@@chromasus9983 "got his ass handed to him". Ummmm where?.
Before the event of X1:(X4 flash back) Zero kicked the living shit out of sigma until his head showed the "W" and started to hurt him.
In X1: Vile traped him, after Zero deliverd the massive humiliation in the beggining(and clearly he was afraid). My evidence? The capsules he prepared specifically for him.
In Maverick Hunter X(X1 remake) (btw this game is completely non canon): Vile specifically said that Zero shouldve considered Vile to be there and not sigma. Implying that He ambushed Zero. Again after Zero Humiliated him.
In X2: (canon) no one.
(non canon), X fought him while he being mind controllered. Still he still can block full charge shots with his bare HAND. So he IS a force to be reckoned with. And just destroyed the ground with his bare HAND
So if they switched position and X was mind controllered it wouldnt be fair dose it ?.
In X3: (canon) no one.
(non canon) the bee fell on him AFTER HE DEFEATED IT.
X4: no one
X5: the fight between Zero(still a good guy) and X was a draw, YET he stood up FIRST and SAVED X for the FIFTH TIME.
And his fight against Sigma in the end, he still kicked Sigma's ass before exploding damaging Zero in the proses.
Btw X was also just a torso in the same state as Zero if not worse before Light came and saved him.
Awakened Zero fight: still a draw due to Zero fighting his evil self. My evidence?. Zero returning to his "good guy" self SAVING X YET AGAIN. Plus Dude can one shot ultimate armor X out of existence with his Genmurei. Yeah HE IS A POWER HOUSE.
X6: no one
X7: no one
X8: NO ONE
Z1: kicked the living shit out of "copy" X to the point he needed to explode himself just out of spite.
Z2: no one
Z3: no one
Z4: Zero DEFEATED Wile before ragnarok expolde. Saving the entire fucking planet AGAIN. And allowing the Zx AND the legend series charecter's to thrive.
Yeah he is ultra powerful. So who kicked his ass again?
Honestly, it just makes you realize how much of a hard time Wily must have had building his army with his non-existent budget. Heck, the fact that Bass and Zero are able to go toe-to-toe with their rivals (X and Classic MM) despite being built on budget speaks volumes about Wily's genius and adaptability. Heck, Zero, despite his unfinished build in X1, was much stronger than X and was easily able to catch up after his completion at the hands of the X-hunters.
My hypothesis is that Zero closed the gap between his Bassnium-powered body and X's "UNLIMITED POTENTIAL" MKIII Solar Refractor Microfusion powered body with the power of a perfected Double Gear system.
Better than Sigma's track record. As far as I'm aware, he's only confirmed to have created Dark Necrobat.
Wire Sponge was also made by him, as were Spike Rosered & Crush Crawfish. (One can also assume he made Crystal Snail and Morph Moth, and he at the very least majorly revamped Split Mushroom) Others like Spark Mandrill, Wheel Gator, and more at least joined him willingly.
i don't think these two compare. sigma gets by as a villain on leadership skills, military experience and charisma rather than inventiveness. and of course virus
Wasn’t Crush Crawfish a preexisting Reploid, though? According to the Mega Man wiki, he was designed as a military combat Reploid but deemed a failure because a bug in his programming made him unable to tell his friends from his foes, leading him to be stowed away in a warehouse for maintenance where he was then stolen by Dr. Doppler.
@@JoeyCannoli I recall that he was made by Sigma as a combat Reploid.
@@austinreed7343 Seems that Rosered was more of an accident
Wily just steals other robots because it’s too expensive making new ones it’s cheaper to just reprogram them so we can understand him a bit more
Dr Wily is the kind of guy to immediately label them all under his name once they agree to join. At least he’s able to turn things like Dentists into War Machines
I didn't stop to actually count how many robots Wawee did, I always thought it wouldn't be more than 20, but he actually made over 30? That’s impressive, he sure is a genius, he could help so much the entire world, but..
I always like to think that if he didn't get rejected by the board, he would have at least made a couple good contributions to the world of robotics. The Double Gear concept seemingly had good intentions to begin with!
@@JarateChop Dude just wanted to create Robot Super Heroes and you could say that that's reflected on Zero's design with some twists in the match.
Yeah, i wonder if he had any family that would support him at the very least, dude be lonely af, at least light had his robot kids
@@JarateChop Honestly I don't think the board is a good scapegoat for Wily's actions. He chose of his own volition to do harm many times, and even when Light reached out to him for a collaboration, Wily chose to be petty instead and rejected the offer to do more villainy. Even if the board had chosen his designs over Light's I imagine Wily's personality just makes him the kind of guy who would let it go to his head and he'd end up abusing it.
I believe at one point they should have ditched the whole "Doctor [Name] Number" codename scheme and use a more generic acronym: "RMN" *(Robot Master Number")*
That way it would make sense for each robot to be part of a "series" regardless of their actual creator
Wily really do be rocking that programmer mentality
But seriously though, really, REALLY good and funny video, like holy hell this was some of the best Mega Man content I've seen in a while
^ Best description for Wily, lmao
I'm happy that you enjoyed the video though, thank you so so much for watching!
oh hi
@@knightdude23 no
Somewhat unrelated but I’ve always liked Zero’s “DWN No. INFINITY” designation. The number zero is about the furthest you can get from infinity, so it kind of highlights how Zero ended up the opposite of what Wily intended.
I love how the robots actually created by Wily are usually the ones made from actual garbage.
You got a few facts mixed up. Search Man is the 4th original Wily Number present in Mega Man 8, and King didn't create Magic Man, but he did create Pirate Man. We do know that King and Rockman Shadow were indeed created by Wily too, despite the lack of proper serial numbers. And to clear out the uncertainty regarding Fake Men, they were reprogrammed police robots. Also, the Dark Man series is a set of Robot Masters, so they should count too, and if we overlook PU's dubious canonicity, Mega Man? is also a possibility.
Other than that, you got all of the most important information right. Not sure why the book doesn't have information on Robot Masters that is available in other official sources, but I digress.
Could you please provide links to these other official sources you are referring to? I'm sure that other commenters as well as I would appreciate it.
To respond to your points, in the Field Guide (which may be outdated, so I won't deny your points), they say that Search Man was originally created as a surveillance robot that Wily later stole and reprogrammed with an extra head as a modification. That is why he was omitted.
The wording on Pirate Man's origins don't explicitly say that King made him, but I can see now to where it can be inferred that he did and that I just overlooked that when reading, so I apologize for at least regretting to mention him.
I found no sources actually confirming Fake Man's origins beyond the game's implications, so that's why I couldn't be certain for him. Again, if you have links to official sources from Mega Man/Rockman 9 that confirms his origins, I'd be happy to read them.
I could have mentioned the Dark Man robots, but for the same reason I neglected to mention Doc Robot and did not add King to the list, they do not have serial codes. I mention in the description that I only counted Masters with a serial code, otherwise who's to say what makes a Robot Master a Robot Master (Duo and the Stardroids, for example) and how many Wily had his hands in creating. I should have still at least mentioned them so that the audience could have made a better judgement for themselves, however, so I apologize for missing that information. On a similar note, that's why Mega Man? was passed over, as he fills about the same role as Shadow, both lacking serial codes despite being full creations of Wily's. I still regret not mentioning him though.
Thank you for your comment though, I will do my best to make sure those things don't get overlooked next time.
@@JarateChop Sadly, your request won't be as easy and straight to fulfil. My main source of information, MMKB, while is very reliable, it is also stingy with sharing their sources. I was, however, pointed to a few books that could be some of their points of reference.
> R20 Rockman & Rockman X Official Complete Works (2008, Japan)
> Mega Man Official Complete Works (2009, USA)
> R20+5 Rockman & Rockman X Official Complete Works/MM25 Mega Man & Mega Man X Official Complete Works (2012, Japan/2013, USA)
These are the only official books, other than the Robot Master Field Guide, that I managed to find. Also, while the first rwo titles seem to be the same book, they are listed separately, so I did the same here just in case. But other than books, there were also some websites that have been lost to time and, from what I remember, some game collections had bonus content of that kind (although the latter I am not 100% certain on). That's the best I can do for you.
Wasn't "Megaman?" a reprogrammed Megaman, though? The whole reason that character exists is because a robot master was chosen as a playable character instead of Mega, so, Wily steals them instead. I guess if retrofitting Mega with armor and stuff counts?
I would also like to add megaman 3 on the gameboy is the odd one out compared with the other 4, as unlike the space setting for those games final stage, mega man 3s final castle stage comes up from the ocean.
@@whomstthehecc3028 That is powered up. We do not continue discussing that.
This video did so much more correct thought and research into the source material than GameTheory ever did.
Hmmm... That wasn't hard to do in that case... and I still missed stuff!
Thank you very much for watching!
So true
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Every time budget or cheapness is mentioned I have to chuckle, it's such a priceless idea the evil genius had to deal with limited funds... and it resulted in some of the funniest robots. It only makes Wily more likeable imo hahaha. Great vid!
Some of the ones Wily stole could have DWN's because he modified them for combat. The RM's could have been registered with DWN's after the upgrades.
That would mean Breakman/Protoman/Blues which has been modified by Wily and given weapons would also be a DWN at the same time as being a DLN. But ok tbf Proto is a weird case amongst weird case as the first Robot master
I like how Wily just loves Guts Man
I love that even with the small numbers of Robot Masters that Wily actually made, they’re still subjected to being rehashed concept from Light’s robots. Canonically, a majority of 2’s Robot Masters are either pulling from 1’s designs or used for future robots. It just goes to show that Wily’s plans for world domination go above practicality or creativity
The section briefly showing the comic page with Ra Thor was actually intriguing enough to get me to bite the bullet and read Archie’s run of Mega Man, so thank you for that, was quite a nice read.
It is an amazing read, I just wish it didn’t have to end so soon. I’m glad I was able to give it some more exposure through this video! Thank you so much for watching!
I think the reason it got discontinued was a mix between them losing a lot of money due to the Ken Penders fiasco, and that the Mega Man comics were never super successful anyway.
@darkiusmc979 just another reason to curse the name Ken Penders.
Had to re-post this comment for some reason.
Robot Masters with their proper serial numbers. (Excluding the Wily Numbers. If you want to see them, #melo 7904 already hade his own similar list that includes them.
Light Wily Numbers (Using RWN because the devs already made that Logo)
RWN-001: Needle Man
RWN-002: Magnet Man
RWN-003: Gemini Man
RWN-004: Hard Man
RWN-005: Top Man
RWN-006: Snake Man
RWN-007: Spark Man
Ra Moon Numbers (Archie)
SRN-001: Terra
SRN-002: Mercury
SRN-003: Venus
SRN-004: Mars
SRN-005: Jupiter
SRN-006: Saturn
SRN-007: Uranus
SRN-008: Pluto
SRN-009: Neptune
KDN-???: ShadowMan (Mass produced Kuiper Droid)
Doctor Cossack Numbers
DCN-001: BrightMan
DCN-002: ToadMan
DCN-003: DrillMan
DCN-004: PharaohMan
DCN-005: RingMan
DCN-006: DustMan
DCN-007: DiveMan
DCN-008: SkullMan
DCN-009: TundraMan
Doctor Pedro Astil (Archie)
DAN-001: PlantMan
Dr. Noelle Lalinde (Archie)
DLN-001: Tempo/QuakeWoman
King Numbers (Made by King)
KGN-001: GroundMan
KGN-002: PirateMan
Unknown Maker
* Stolen *
MM6
Blizzard Man
Centaur Man
Flame Man
Knight Man
Plant Man
Tomahawk Man
Wind Man
Yamato Man
MM7
FreezeMan
BurstMan
CloudMan
ShadeMan
MM8
TenguMan
AstroMan
ClownMan (Kinda thought so.)
AquaMan
* Virus *
MM10
BladeMan
PumpMan
CommandoMan
ChillMan
SheepMan
StrikeMan
NitroMan
SolarMan
“Recruited”
R&F (MegaMan And Bass)
DynamoMan
ColdMan (Possibly Dr. Light? Nothing Solid on this.)
BurnerMan
MagicMan
MM11 (The Serial Numbers are made up/shortened to keep the three letter convention.)
Nakaume Heavy Machinery
NHM-001: BlockMan
NHM-002: ImpactMan
O.D.A. Electronics
ODA-001: FuseMan
B.B. Bomb Company
BBB-001: BlastMan
Mecha-Chuchets Institute of Robology
MCR-001: AcidMan
Tsubakuro Precision Machining
TPM-001: TorchMan
Joint R&D (Rebound Rubber & Momo's Robot Farm)
RDR/MRF-001: BounceMan (Two Makers.)
Doctor Light Numbers
DLN-000: ProtoMan (Blues)
DLN-001: MegaMan/RockMan (Rock)
DLN-002: Roll
DLN-003: CutMan
DLN-004: GutsMan
DLN-005: IceMan
DLN-006: BombMan
DLN-007: FireMan
DLN-008: ElecMan
DLN-00A: TimeMan
DLN-00B: OilMan
(DLN--: ColdMan? Again, nothing solid.)
DLN-009: ConcreteMan
DLN-010: TornadoMan
DLN-011: SplashWoman
DLN-012: PlugMan
DLN-013: JewelMan
DLN-014: HornetMan
DLN-015: MagmaMan
DLN-016: GalaxyMan
DLN-Infinity: BondMan
Special Wily Number
SWN-000: BreakMan
SWN-001: Bass
SHEEESH that’s one hell of a list! Glad it finally got posted!
@@JarateChop Thanks. It took quite a few hours on little too no sleep at the end of one of my days to research all of this.
Many people who see this may ask why there is no DLN number for X. It's important for people to realize that Light made X as a robot that was fully free and capable of thinking. A feat no other machine Light made ever couls so. Dr. Light didnt see X as a Robot. Light saw X as a humanoid. A living creature with a mind as complex as himself. And thus Light gave X no number classification because a DLN would go against the very ideas he had with X by removing the humanity of X and making him just a Robot with advamced mental capacities.
13:11 wily also uses skull as a his symbol and he wasn't the one that created skullman
The original story does actually mention that Light and Wily worked together during Mega Man 1 and Mega Man was just impossible to reprogram. There is potential to argue it was retconned, but the fact that the comics corroborate, MM11 shows that Light and Wily used to be classmates and rivals and could have chosen to work together after graduating and that in MMBN which was created as just a different branch of the classic timeline where society in the late 1900s and early 2000s focused on internet tech instead of robotics shows that Dr. Hikari and Wily worked together; it's safe to say them working together during MM1 is still canon.
If you need further proof, when Keiji made MN9 he used the same plot point again.
Dr. Light's journal states the development processes of the first line of robots and wily is no where referred to.
if anything, no one but Light knew that wily was one behind the light numbers going rogue.
You can read the journal in a pdf reader, or you could listen to someone read it on youtube,
though I still recommend pdf because it's more fun to read it yourself
Megaman? Impossible to reprogram? PU would like to disagree
@@Ghosty_Dosty in powered up he wasn't reprogrammed. That was copy robot. Rock was just at home with roll as you can see in the ending.
@@Ghosty_Dosty yeah actually, wily only didn’t reprogram him due to his seemingly “uselessness”.
From how I understand it, Archie was using the old "Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were business partners" plot point which was a localization thing (the MM1 manual story did not mention Wily being Light's assistant in JP, for example). So whether or not Wily and Light working together during MM1 is canon depends on if one goes with the original JP story or the english localization.
I saw a theory that said that the main reason why the DWN series continues after the DLN series is because Wily is petty, and the MM9 DLN series continues from the MM8 DWN series because Dr. Light still respects Dr. Wily's skills.
I like that concept a lot! I think if there were to be any canonical explanation to this very specific issue, that would make the most sense. Kudos to the individual(s) who came up with that, and thank you for sharing that here!
I always thought that the DWN numbers thing was just something made for convenience. Also some sources do state that the Megaman 4 robot masters are also known as the Cossack numbers. Since Cossack has custody of the robots much how the Mega man 1 robots are called the Light numbers due to their association with Maga man and Dr. Light. So maybe the entire system is just a giant public misconception that is there for convenience sake. After all Robot Masters were going to be phased out when Light and Wily died and the entire concept buried for 100 years if the AI retirement laws were any indication. So maybe the whole thing was a half assed measure created to please Wily's ego.
Would be quite meta, but I like the idea!
More likely a criminal code for specific RM models honestly.
funniest thing about Zero is that Wily still made a mistake when building him, Zero's programming had a bug that made him extremely violent and disobedient, which wily found out when he activated him during a test while building him, similar to what Light did with X in the Day of Sigma OVA
after that Wily had Bass related ptsd flashbacks and went "yeah not dealing with that" and shoved the uncompleted zero into one of his hidden labs with the virus he was working on separately that conveniently keeps him in line......mostly
pretty sure everything that happened with Sigma was purely a freak accident that not even Wily could predict, he probably thought the virus would just infect some random robot and cause some general chaos instead of someone like sigma
also, i firmly believe that the main reason he keeps running out of money because he wastes them on giving his castles the skull a s t h e t i c, along with all the cash he must have used up to renovate the areas the robot masters takes over into actual beatable obstacle courses, as confirmed by wily during his twitter takeover of the official megaman twitter account a while back, his reasoning for not just making an impossible death trap being something about beating megaman "fair and square"
What is strange is that Wily actually digitized his memories and as a reploid collaborated with Sigma at least once, with it being unclear why he did so. But then again, he also just decided to book it and never publically appear again at the end of X6, so idk what is going on there in general.
@@lpfan4491 it wouldn't surprise me if his AI copy self was accidentally corrupted by the virus or something, which was why he supported Sigma's genocidal campaign, it definitely feels like a something Wily would do tbh, he does something actually advantageous and it backfires on him badly
like what happened with the MM10 RMs, where he had actually stole them and was planning to have them rampage throughout the world, but was not expecting them to go berzerk in his own lab and actually steal the parts he needed to make the cure lol
The real reason Zero doesn't kill everyone was because Wily was arrested for copyright infringement before he could unleash him onto the world
In Wily's defense, given that he believes in Robot superiority over their servitude, him being more efficient by repairing other robots destined for the scrap heap (which implies there isn't a specialized proceedure for the dismantling of Robots) is in character for him.
Asides from the numerical code issue, King was more likely than not created by Wily. King states that Dr. Wily made him after being defeated (at least in Bass' playthrough) and Wily later refers to himself as King's maker. Not to mention Wily having blueprints for a successor to King prior to Proto Man destroying them.
If you think about it, even if less than half robot master are his creations, Wily did i fine work with his available resources. It's not like he could get funds from a sponsor or something like that, since he's a wanted criminal.
Yet he managed to make more than 30 robots, create countless fortresses and some non-serialized robots.
Also, let's not forget his last creation that was so strong that it kept fighting for more than two centuries (not the way he wanted, though)
Hey, just because he’s better at reprogramming rather than building doesn’t mean he’s not a scientist, it just shows his specialty was in AI development and design… is what I’d like to say, but the introduction of 11 made it pretty clear that was Light’s specialty while Wily focused on the mechanics. Maybe that’s why a lot of the robot masters can be put into exploitable patterns during their boss fights. Once Wily has had a crack at their code they’re just not as adaptable as a Light creation.
that would also explain why wily made so few robot masters, he just didn't have the skills TO make a lot of them from scratch. he had enough skill to reprogram robots, but not enough to write his own stuff.
considering he eventually makes bots like bass and then zero, it's possible he learned enough from other people's code that he COULD start to make his own robot masters in bulk, but largely stuck to theft because it was far faster and more efficient to steal other people's work than pour time and resources into making his own.
It makes sense when you consider that the whole DWN/DLN naming scheme is probably Wily's own internal Dewey Decimal ordering system.
There is a certain irony of Dr. Wily stealing a robot named Pirate Man
I willing to assume that the boss rushes in the Wily Castles are using rebuilt models of the original robots from scratch, meaning that Wily has not only replicated his own work perfectly, but has reverse engineered the work and technology of his contemporaries and even otherworldly robotics. Further evidence of this can be see with the Doc Robots in MM3. On top of his (re)programming and hacking capability and his own original robots, this feat justifies the DWN designation and exemplifies his genius and expertise in his field.
Also, I’d like to believe that Dr. Light salvages and reprograms all robots after Wily’s defeats, so that’s why the DLNs pick up where Wily’s leave off.
Makes perfect sense woth the exception of the DCN numbers being 24 short. As Wily didn't make MM4, 6, a few of 7 and 8's RMs.
@@linhero797 very true
I've always loved how the Robot Master backstories in Mega Man 5 imply Wily was completely broke. The mental image of Gyro Man trying to collect admission to a park he just took over is hilarious.
Also, WHY does your Robot Master Field Guide have a different cover than mine? I just have Mega Man and Rush! GARBAGE!!!
I believe there was a different rendition (outside of the Updated Edition) of the book that I myself haven't seen but read others here bring up. This one my friend gifted me from one of their loot crates a couple years back.
The Cossack Robots actually are listed as DCN in the Mega Man Megamix mangas. They still have the same numberings, though...
To give wily credit he managed to weaponised sheep man who was created to look after sheep, getting tired easily and get destroyed by rubber, which is no easy task to weaponise a useless robot like him
This channel deserves more love, I couldn’t imagine how much work was put in to make this video.
Thank you, but you're giving me too much credit! It should have been uploaded a lot earlier than this if I didn't find other ways to distract myself lol.
I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to watch!
one thing i find confusing about mega man 11 is that block man says to light that "[he] built [him] rock solid!" EVEN though block man was manufactured by a different company entirely
maybe light helped out? or better upgraded him (and maybe the other mm11 robot masters?) idk
I always thought that Dr. Light came up with the designs for all the MM11 Robot Masters and went on to commission the various robot manufacturers to actually build the Robot Masters based on the designs he sent them.
@@JoeyCannoli oh, i didn't think of that, that's actually a really good explanation!
This is a very belated pinned comment, but feel like I might as well post it now to potentially curb some of the duplicate notifications I keep receiving on this video to this day.
I forgot to mention the Dark Man robots while discussing Mega Man 5 in the video. However, even if I did mention them, I would not count them in my PERSONAL list of Robot Masters (doesn't mean that you can't add them to your own personal list). As I neglected to set down any real ground rules during the intro, I wasn't able to state that I was only counting the Robot Masters that were given a serial code, that being an "XYZ 000" type of classification. I mention this in the description, but I understand that not everybody reads that (not that some people won't just pass by this post either). If the Dark Man robots were given a classification along the lines of "DKM 01 - 04" in the games, I would have definitely remembered to include them in the script like I did with King. But, because they lacked any serialization, I completely forgot about them when compiling everybody for the collage image as well as the script. I apologize for not giving them at least a mention like I did with King.
Anyways... That’s my lame excuse. If there's anything else I've forgotten in this video, feel free to reply to this post with your observation, and make sure it includes a "👉" emoji so my brain can imagine there was a vine boom sfx implied with it. Thanks.
The way I see the "Serialized Numbering System" in Mega Man, and that they are all known as Robot Masters, that means they are Robots specifically made to be given Android features, specifically Human Limbs and special tasks. Time Man and Oil Man weren't considered to be part of the original lineup, given that they never thought of doing so back then, especially when they had a Seventh Robot Master in mind that never made it past the development stage. Anyways, if they want to lump all the Robot Masters together with a growing number, I would label the combined number of Robot Masters as RMN (or Robot Master Number). As for what you said at 8:47, It's likely they are indeed creations of Dr. Light, but at this point (given the logistical explanation I tried to give off), Dr. Light chose not to number it as 009 to 016; it might be possible that after the events of Mega Man 8, Dr. Light assumed Dr. Wily was presumed dead, given how there was no explanation as to what happened to Dr. Wily after Mega Man was contaminated by a dark energy source that Dr. Wily stole for his Robot Masters. So after a few years had passed, and Dr. Light created those MM9 Robot Masters, Dr. Wily returned and manipulated them to think Dr. Light wouldn't renew their warranties; because Dr. Wily that evil.
Didn't Wily make Serges (MMX2)?
What about the dos games?
The reason why the numbers continue is probably so it's like a card game, where the numbers keep going up with each game.
Wily has the full developer-experience of it being more practical to steal stuff and make it legally destinct through enough rewrites to what they are actually doing, lmao. The most legendary detail of it all is that his greatest creation(Zero) fell victim to a simple overflow-bug because he and the virus were made independantly without proper cross-reference and were only made compatible later on. And instead of actually fixing the issue, dude just slapped some failed overwrites and a controlshock on the package. Like, that kind of stuff legitimately sometimes happens in ware-development and it's always incredibly silly.
renumbering the robot masters to make more sense (for the nes games at least)
DLN 000 blues/proto man
DLN 001 rock/mega man
DLN 002 roll
mega man 1
DLN 003 cut man
DLN 004 guts man
DLN 005 ice man
DLN 006 bomb man
DLN 007 fire man
DLN 008 elec man
extra mm1/mmpu robot masters
DLN 00A time man
DLN 00B oil man
(and because why not) DLN 00C bond man
mega man 2
DWN 001 metal man
DWN 002 air man
DWN 003 bubble man
DWN 004 quick man
DWN 005 crash man
DWN 006 flash man
DWN 007 heat man
DWN 008 wood man
MEGA MAN 3 (new number format: DLWN dr light, wily number/right,wily please note this number format was seen in mega man megamix)
DLWN 001 needle man
DLWN 002 magnet man
DLWN 003 Gemini man
DLWN 004 hard man
DLWN 005 top man
DLWN 006 snake man
DLWN 007 spark man
DLWN 008 shadow man (shadow man has unknown origins but can still fit under DLWN as DLWN 008)
MEGA MAN 4 (new format: DCN dr cossack number also seen as DCN in megamix)
DCN 001 bright man
DCN 002 toad man
DCN 003 drill man
DCN 004 pharaoh
DCN 005 ring man
DCN 006 dust man
DCN 007 dive man
DCN 008 skull man
MEGA MAN 5 (note wily could try to hide the fact he made these so he would likely put them in the DMN dark man number or PMN proto man number)
DWN 009 gravity man
DWN 010 wave man
DWN 011 stone man
DWN 012 gyro man
DWN 013 star man
DWN 014 charge man
DWN 015 napalm man
DWN 016 crystal man
MEGA MAN 6 (we dont know who made them other then plant man which is made by dr astil so he is DAN-001 so for the 7 other i will just put a question mark after D, you can also call the others MXN "mister X number" due to being apart of the tournament held by mr X)
D?N 001 blizzard man
D?N 001 centaur man
D?N 001 flame man
D?N 001 knight man
DAN 001 plant man
D?N 001 tomahawk man
D?N 001 WIND MAN
D?N 001 yamato man
doing god's work here, lmao, thank you!
I just posted a comment like this yesterday. Where did it go?
@@k.w.pillsbury4070 if it contained a link then YT would delete it of the face of the earth
and i didnt see your comment so i didnt steal it
how would i have stolen it if i didnt even know it existed
@@melo-7904 it contained no link and I definitely wasn’t accusing you of stealing it. I don’t know where that came from.
@@k.w.pillsbury4070 well it probably just got lost in the yt comment section
And me “accusing” you of accusing me was just me just covering a base for future readers so in like 4-7 months some one doesn’t try to accuse me of stealing a comment from that 4 to 7 month time frame
Pretty good video. I would have come up with that number of being in the 30s if someone were to come up to me and ask me how robot masters Dr. Wily made. I will say though, you missed Search Man from MM8. He was made by Wily under the pretext of building a combat robot with the efficiency of having two minds, and 2 heads. But, when Wily got confused and lost track about which head had which mindset, Wily ultimately gave up and finished Search Man into the robot we see in the game.
So he made (give or take depending on preference) 32 robot masters, eh? Now I wonder how many non-master robots he made. Some of the Wily Machines and other non-intelligent bosses are pretty impressive.
Head cannon, DWL and DLN are just licences, like an MIT license, and anyone can register their robot under any license. They are sequential because they are indexed by number, regardless of manufacturer.
Besides being a catalog in universe, the numbers are also based on their literal creation in real life.
Though this is odd in some instances, Ring man comes before Dust and Dive man because he was made in real life before they were for the game... but lore wise he was made specifically for combat, while Dust and Dive had industrial jobs before he was created. So in a lore sense it would be more sensible for Ring to be right before Skull as Second to last.
Weird... but neat
I am super glad I've got this in my recommendations, was an entertaining one, and while I knew about most of the information, I wasn't still awarw of the numbers he made lol. Nontheless, Wily's intention of making Zero, may seems like a potential of him making Robot Masters in upcoming MegaMan Classic games if they will ever be real.
On a different, you did mention that king created Burner man, Magic man and Ground man; I am pretty sure Ground man was created by King, but I do as well remember that he persuaded the other two to join him. I am not entirely sure with the sources that much, but I am not sure if it is true or not.
Hey Crobat
this was a good watch. great vid keep up the amazing work!
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
One thing the updated editon of the Robot Master field guide has besides the inclusion of the MM11 Robots is that it states that Wily wasn't born in Osaka, Japan, but rather in North America
But besides that, great video!
You mean in the translation to America or in the Japanese version?
both are wrong, if you've seen the ruby spears animated series (only canon piece of mega man content) you'd clearly see that dr wily is german
Is that why the Light family lives in Texas according to the map in Mega Man 8?
@@autobotstarscream765 Basically. I dunno if it states Light was born in America as well or not because I don't own the book lol
@@Its_PacFan It is pretty much a fact that Dr. Wily and Dr. Light are both American. It's a bit iffy in other languages but in Japan both are pretty much described as being American.
Nice theme to start man, good luck with your endeavors.
Thank you very much! Good luck to you just as well!
Awesome video! I love these types of videos just casually taking about mega man, and the editing style and general presentation are my favorite style for videos like these. Look forward to more vids like these in the future if you do any.
Also that shard pfp is based
It is you who is the one that is based, for watching my video! Thank you!
I can't make any promises, but there may be some more topics in the pipeline since this video is performing decently, we'll just have to see~~
only 28 views on a video this good? now that is a crime
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@@JarateChop just as planned
I can see him reprogramming the identification codes to be his for anything involving his plans. Also only 23 are his because remember the Bass, Treble and Zero projects, those take resources.
Amazing video! Glad to know I'm here early to watch this channel enevitably blow up in popularity.
I’m very glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching!
But, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high for this channel taking off lmao. I have to start making consistent vids for that to happen haha.
He may have made a few Robot Masters, but let's not forget he created one of the best soon-to-be Maverick Hunter in the X and Zero series.
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
This video was fantastic, please keep it up and make more videos like these. You had my attention.. but now you have my subscription.
Very well edited and fun video
Great vids dawg 👍🏽💯
ive never played a MegaMan game through entirely. I'm subscribing.
Welcome to the club!
I like to imagine the third game robots are in the middle of a divorce situation and can be wily or lights 🤣
I've been thinking about this on and off for literally years so it's funny to suddenly come across a video actually addressing such a specific question.
How ironic that Wily went evil because he blamed Light for stealing his work, yet Wily himself steals from everyone else.
My only takeaway from this video is that King is the best robot ever made, the guy made his own robots. Even the Robots of Megaman X7 couldn't make any and had to pursuade Axel back to Red's side
Finally, someone brave enough to call Dr. Wily out on his academic plagiarism. Also Simpleflips jumpscare.
One could technically argue how Ring Man and Skull Man are kind of wily's belongings. If we go back to megaman 4, the cossack robots were all made for non combat purposes with those two exceptions. Ring Man is said to specifically be made to destroy megaman while Skullman is entirely made to be a combat robot. The fact that he's skull themed kind gives some hints as well. Also, wasn't Search Man specifically made by wily as well?
Just wait till megaman 12 comes out, where there may be 12 more robot masters
I give him credit for 7 of the robots master from MM3. Bad enough shadow man is not one if his but I will not accept topman, magnet man and spark man not being built by him.
I always thought that most of the robots after the fifth game were not made by him. Building robot master to fail can be tiresome along whit lack of money and power can be a problem too. So does what any villain would do and steal other people shit. Thank for making this video.
I need more content like this holy shit
Knight Man is in "Europe" though questions on Central Europe if all the pieces were brought since the Flail is German/Central Europe weapon and the Mohawk Helmet is base on Greece.
So this is why we'll never know exactly where in Europe though his Armor is literally the Flag of Europe Union.
This was one of the *many* problems with that Sonic X MegaMan Comic crossover years back when Archie still had both licenses; They basically gave Wily 90% of the robot masters, even though it made no sense for him to have half of them, even in comic lore. Not only did they give them to Wily, but they also implied they were dead by that point, which also contradicted both comic *and* game lore.
Who said Dr. Wily was numbering the stolen robots? Perhaps it was Dr. Light (and his support staff) who numbered them, and Light was ultimately tracking the robots working for Wily rather than who initially created said robots. The game can give the player robot ID numbers because it reflects Light providing those numbers to Mega Man, rather than Wily kindly providing product ID numbers.
Awesome video
3:00 appreciate this little moment reminding us how Powerup implied Roll had incestuous feelings for her brother Rock. Jesus Christ Japan.
5:34 That's a quality manga image right there-
4:44 look at that sweet double 1up
the mega man 4 giveth, and the mega man 4 taketh away
I like how you drew Charge Man to look like Thomas.
You edit like a pro!
Great video! How was surprised that Dr wily didn't make all of the robots in MegaMan 3, 7 and 8. This was a very educational MegaMan video for me.
I'm still given him credit for 7 of the robots in the third game..
I've had this video in my watch later for a few days since CZcams recommended it to me and I finally had time to watch it. Honestly, this video perfectly explained my issue with the numbering system. I always knew not all of the robot masters were made by wily but it wasn't until ReploidRevo debunking of Game theory's videos did I realize just how little of the robot masters belong to wily. When you look at each game and note which were made by wily and which weren't, it still feels like a majority are created by wily but when include all games in order and list them. It starts to be evident that most robot masters belong to other individuals. As someone who got into megaman through the archie comics it will always annoy me that robot masters are always using in game numbers. If I remember correctly splash woman is referred to as DLN 067 even though there not that many robot masters let alone light numbers. Also something I just want to note in megaman 6 I think the robot masters are numbered in game as DWNB for no reason. Definitely gonna keep an eye on this channel, really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for sharing this video.
I was in the same boat as you when I was planning to draw all the robot masters to connected them to their creators but I was so confused and annoyed on the fact Wily basically stole half of the robot masters and has to re-plan everything to make it work. I will mainly draw everyone by when they appear in the game timeline and not their Serial Numbers. Anyone without a serial number will have to wait until complete the ones with serial numbers before I plan to draw them as well.
Awesome! The final piece is bound to turn out amazing, and I hope I get to see it sometime! Thank you for watching and I wish you luck on your artistic endeavors!
At the end of the day Wiley's mastery of robotics (Zero) and Light's good will and ideals (Elf X) ended up saving the world
4:44-4:46 An LPer I know would call that the "1up Curse."
If anything, this makes Wily quite the villain still. While he didn't make MMX or Mega Man or Protoman, he did eventually make Bass and Zero, so that's something.
come back king we miss you
Dr Wily:
“Ah, a serial number. I’ll just…scratch that out. There we go. Now it’s mine”
A few points to mention:
. Ring Man and Skull Man were created by Cossack specifically to fight and defeat Mega Man, while the rest of the group were created for helpful purposes. Also in Ariga's Megamix manga, Cossack's robots are given the DCN designations and Ring Man is retconned to have had a useful purpose from the very start (i.e. robot police officer).
. In Megamix, the Mega Man 6 Robot Masters use the "MXN" designation for "Mr. X".
Would anyone else like to see a battle with Dr. Light's and Dr. Cossack's robot masters battling against Wily's Army of Fake Man Robot Masters?
About the inconsistency of the Doctor's Numbers always troubles me that I just leave it as the way for the creators to have an order and recording of characters, in that way they can know which entry are they from (except the side-games because they are obviously away from the mainline numbers).
In fairness to Wily, reprogramming and modifying existing robots is MUCH cheaper than building ones from scratch. How much money is he spending on building those ENORMOUS castles? You think he has cash left over for robot parts?
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About to watch but this is a god tier thumbnail
My guess to the weird numbering is probably because it's based on what was list by the government when first seem in action, with some bearing wily's designation due to being modified by him.
here's how i see the numbering system
if a production line makes a robot master, they have to register it, which is why it goes in a sequence like how we go from MM8's DWNs to MM9's DLNs
I also see Wily slapping DWN over the ones he didn't make initially after he modified them since he's the last one to fiddle with them.
Yknow I woulda forgiven him for countless murders and terrorist attacks and we may have even become friends but plagiarism? Thats to far Wiley
A very deplorable action indeed.
to clear up the D_N gaps. each number isn't relitive to the maker, but rather a larger catalog, so DWN 000-008 don't exist. nor the 24 other Cossack numbers.
What are numbers anyway? To me the DWN specifications are numbers that Wily uses as identifier for robots he uses, not make