How to Change the rear brakes on a F20 F21 BMW 1-series. Discs and Pads
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Hey Guys, Sorry about the delay on this video. It was a hard video to film and edit, mainly due to my camera. It struggled in the very cold weather, and the brake dust didn't help.
My car is a 2012 BMW 116i Auto, and I got a message that its time to change my pads. I thought as I was making a video, that id change the discs too.
I will edit this later, and list the tools I used, plus a list of parts I used with the part numbers. Most likely tomorrow as its late here in Moscow.
If you like the video please let me know, like shar enad subscribe.
If you feel i missed something amiss, please let me know in the comments.
Parts I used.
Cars can vary from month to month, so its best to use www.realoem.com to search your cars VIN number, and then the parts.
My car is a 2012 116i auto, LHD F20 (5door)
Rear pads BMW P/No 34216873093 ( HELLA-PAGID 8DB 355 019-971)
Rear Disc BMW P/No 34216792225 (HELLA-PAGID 8DD 355 120-231)
BMW Spring clips x2 BMW P/No 34216850853
Brake wear Sensor BMW P/No 34 35 6 792 292 (HELLA-PAGID 8DK 355 252-351)
Caliper mountain bolts BMW P/No 34206850536
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Although I am fairly confident doing jobs like this, its always good to watch a video to see if there's anything unusual.
I found your video to be very useful.
Paul Locker thank you so much for your comment. :)
Your videos are really useful. Always checked your videos before fixing my bmw f20 in uk. Nice job Matt🙏🙌
Glad you like them! This kind of message really makes me want to do more! Take care, and thank you.
Love your videos. I have learned a lot of them, and I have de done a lot of mainteinance to my bmw f20 thanks to you. Regards from México, keep doing more videos.
Thank you so much, for the feed back. Thank you for your regular comments, and suggestions too :) cheers :)
Please do not forget the video about how to adjuste hand brake, that you mentioned in this video jejejejeje
Well done Matt, simple and practical.
Syed Rizvi cheers :D
Your research and attention to detail is amazing. I enjoyed watching. You must be frozen :) how many degrees below freezing was it that day? . Well done 👏 ☺
linda pet thank you. I wanted it to be more detailed to be honest :) my next video will be even colder. Today it’s supposed to go down to minus 18!!!! Lol
Good job and thank you, I'm following your video to replace my rear brake disc and pads :)
scheMe good luck!!! I hope it all goes well for you :) :D
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Thank you for a new diy-video! I liked it, it’s very interesting to see how the certain parts of the car can look before you change them and afterwards. Moscow roads seem to make the bottom of all the cars super dirty 🙈 Do you think it means, that the certain details of the car need to be changed sooner, than in England? Anyway, thank you for this video once again! Keep up making your new diy-videos, I’m waiting for the new ones already!
Alla Blackcat I’m glad someone likes these videos lol :) the Russian roads do mess up the cars unfortunately it’s harder for me to work on this car than all my past bmws in England. Parts will need changing a lot quicker in Moscow due to the road and weather conditions. I will be making more diy videos soon. Thank you x
Excellent video helped at lot 👍
Thank you for your feedback. It motivates me to make more video :) I hope all went well for you. Have a great week :)
Nice job man! I am about to change my rear brake pads as well, but I have a little doubt. For the rear calipers, don't you need a special tool to rotate the piston at the same time you are pushing it back?
Iván thank you :) on my car I didn’t need a wind in tool.
I really need to make a video on how to adjust the handbrake after changing the rear discs. Before you attempt the job, search how to adjust the rear handbrake. It’s the same as the e90 BMW. Thank you and good luck
Hello, I’m an apprentice with BMW and own a 1 series myself😁 the rear callipers can be simply pushed back there is no specific tool required 😁
Being from the UK myself I love the oh so posh English voiceover 😆👍
That made me laugh father Jack, thanks for the comment. Enjoy your New Years celebration:)
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It would be be easy with your video to change them but I don't know.... Those things are fucking important and live saving
Very true, people need to be sure they can cope when things get tricky, and be certain they have common sense
Hmmm, I'm only 95% sure, so I guess I shouldn't do this job but thanks for the advice, and I hope someone else is 100% sure and they really enjoy losening up those wheel nuts just a little bit before putting a big padded jack under the rear differential!!!
90nm for the bolts on the calipers seems like an awful lot. In another video the gentleman stated to not put more than 50nm of torque on these. Where did you get these numbers from?
Yes, you are correct. I did take it from newtis, but I guess there must of been a mistake. I will find the amount and edit it somehow. Thank you for bringing it up!! Thank you
So it says replace the bolts then torque down to 50nm and then 60 degrees of torque. Thank you once again for picking up on that mistake.
www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/34-brakes/34-21-rear-wheel-brakes/GfyH0Hrd
Hi Matt, thank for this & your other videos. I just want to ask about the brake pad sensor, I didn't get to replace mine this time, its clipped back in but not well, what is the likely affect of this please? Thank you
Hey, in theory there should be a warning on the dash, saying brake are low. :)
@mattsbeamer Thank you for the reply. I haven't had any warnings (yet) so maybe they've been wired out. I might leave them as I can visually inspect the pads & though sensors are helpful, sometimes they can also be a bit of nuisance:). Once again thank you for all the videos and best wishes:)
@@kevinaquarius6011 Hey, did the sensor ever tell you that the pads were low? :) Maybe if they didn't get to that stage, they could be OK. Thank you for your support and comment on this video. I'm thinking about what other videos I can make for it, Good luck. Take care. ;)
Hi Mat, loved the video, but did you ever make the handbrake adjustment video ?
top ,marks for your safety points, liked and suubd dude , just on that!
Thank you so much :)
Where can I find how tight the bolts should be tightened?
As far as I know it's bad to have it too tight or too loose?
Please could you please make a video on how to replace rear seatbelts? Just to get to them at least?
Hey, to find out how to do certain jobs on your car I recommend www.newtis.info/
It has everything on there including torque settings etc.
Someone else asked about the rear seat belts in the past, I’ll try and find the links I found him. :)
scheMe
Hey buddy. I found lots of links from the online TIS program. I think I put them in the right order. When you see the torque numbers, just clock the blue links on the page your on, and then look for the special code on that page.
1. Remove the floor in boot
2. Remove the rearparcel shelf
3. www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GwMlWLjn
4. Luggage light www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GwN7WW5E
5. Removing and installing/replacing right luggage compartment wheel arch panel www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GwQVdrGE
6.
Removing and installing or replacing trim panel for left or right rear roof pillar (C-pillar) www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GxMffc4f
7.
Removing and installing/replacing left or right capping in luggage compartment www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GxEHgOKl
8. Removing and installing / replacing rear seat
www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/GwCqUd5C
9. Removing and installing or replacing rear left or right seat belts
www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/72-body-parts-accessories/72-11-seat-belts/Gg5U55yB
Hey Matt.
I just did my brakes and discs with help from your vids. I wanted to ask about the guide pins. I noticed no lubricant is recommended by bmw and yourself. But I did find them quite stiff to get in and out. Did you find this?
Hey, what I did was clean them them so they were super smooth. They slide in smoothly, with no catching, they weren't that easy to move by hand. :)
Hi Matt,
Thanks for your detailed video. I figured that I'm going to change all four brake discs and pads myself on my F20 116i 2011.
I'm confident that if I got the right equipment (torque wrench etc) that I can do this. With the help of your videos of course!
As I'm keen to do this the right way I want to change the calliper mount bolts. The ones you used in your video are extremely rare and expensive to buy; 15$ each with 17$ shipping to the Netherlands makes. How did you managed to get them for a fair price?
Any way that I can contact you outside CZcams?
Thanks!
Hey, thanks for the message :) you can message to mattsbeamer1984@gmail.com :)
Try this link, I cant really understand Dutch :)
bmwshop.ekris.nl/nl/zoeken-op-onderdeelnummer?search=34206850536
I think this is the part you want.
I would personally go to your BMW dealer to collect them :) the shipping costs are high :(
Hi thanks for your great vids.
Can I ask, is it definitely safe to jack on the differential? Although I've seen it mentioned for other BMW's, there is no mention of it in our F20 manual??
John R hey, I had to research this too, as I was a bit concerned. It has an exact point on the differential where it needs to be jacked up, avoiding the fins etc. I will find the page where I found the jacking points.
www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/33-rear-axle-rear-wheel-drive-guide/33-00-rear-axle-rear-wheel-drive-guide/GIcCEaOc
Great stuff thanks. I did see this somewhere else, but wasnt sure it applied to F20, but I can see at the top of this link, sure enough it's an F20 service manual.
Thanks again for your help and great vids.
John R it’s basically BMWs manual :) i use it to get my torque figures etc from. People try to sell it on eBay for money thou.
@@mattsbeamer Cool. Bookmarked.😁👍
Is it necessary to adjust the handbrake? Can u just simply replace the brake discs or do you actually have to adjust it first in order to fit new discs?
Have you got a video of how to change rear brake shoes on bmw 1 series
Hey, I’m sorry. I am afraid I don’t.
Quick question.
When you pull the handbrake while driving doest it lock up the wheels? Mine doesnt and I imagine that it isn't supposed to for safety reasons. Is this normal?
Hi Matt.
Have you ever used the front jacking point in the diagram? On top of the undertray?
John R I will do soon, I haven’t had the chance to on this car yet. But I need to do the front brakes on my garage. My undertray on my car is metal, not the usual plastic type. I’m guessing because it’s a russian car. I need to find something to drive up onto as well to get my jack to slide underneath. Sorry I haven’t been much help mate.
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Fair enough. Thanks anyway.
I did it today, I wanted to get it on axle stands at the front. I used the point dead on where the small hole is in the undertray recessed square between the two wheels. I'm sure this is correct 🤔. As I cranked the jack higher, there was a couple of loud cracking sounds. I think it was the jack as I don't use it too often and never done both wheels together with it. But I didn't carry on and lowered it. The car seems fine so far. But it's got me thinking
Hi @mattsbeamer. Greting from Portugal. I'm a long time viewer of your channel. I have a question for you. Yesterday I left my F20 116ED to change rear brake pads and discs, just a common procedure for a BMW dealer for sure. For my surprise, the dealer called me saying that they cant return the brake caliper from the rear left wheel back to position and the diagnosis is a bad ABS module. The car at this moment is stuck, it can't move because this wheel is stuck. Fact is that, when I delivered the car in the dealer, the car was running (otherwise I wouldn't reach there...). Furthermore, I asked to see the car and there was a message in the cluster and in the Idrive saying something like "Stability Control, moderate speed" and the ESP light was ON. obviously none of this where there before. I would like to ask you if you think that they could damaged the ABS module by any manner? I feel like I send the car to a BMW dealer to get a well job done, not to have a car that can't move at all. Thank you.
I'll just take mine to a machanic mine is a 120d m sport and i believe the brake discs are different. Ill play it safe
Emperors Ordeal ok man. It’s always best to play it safe with the brakes :) have a good Christmas and a happy new year!
@@mattsbeamer you too and drive safe. I know how the weather gets in Russia.
Emperors Ordeal:D cheers man!!!
why the sensor wire should be removed completely from the brake pad alone...
do we have to adjust hand brake stroke or it's automatic?
Would you know what disc size for the front ? Is it 284 or 340
Hey, I believe mine are the basic 284 brakes on the from. I think the 340 ones are for cars with the M tech brakes. The calipers are usually blue and a lot bigger than the ones on mine. I really need to make a video on changing the front brakes on mine :)
what year is your car, there is rust and dirt and caked in grime over a lot of things, mines a 2012 and nothing like yours
My car is the same age as yours but with very low miles. The car does get cleaned a lot, but unfortunately the russian winters and chemicals on the road make out cars dirty etc with in one trip. :( she does clean up very nice thou. I just wish I was legally allowed to clean myself here.
Hi, have you done a video about the ajustement of the handbrake ? It's neccesseray to adjust it ?
I have order all the stuff and I will replacing the front and the rear, but I'm afraid about the handbrake...
Hey, when I filmed the handbrake section I lost the footage. I will make another in the future. ill try and find a link to someone else video, which is similar :)
@@mattsbeamer Ok, cool ! If you find one post or try to send us it ! I really like to see it for my work 😅
@@mr_peaky_ czcams.com/video/WOxHbOp1H9k/video.html is good :)
What is the size for 116i rotor?
Hey, I answered this question for you in my latest Q&A. Thanks for the question :)