THIS BROKE ME | Ren - Su!cIde (Official Music Video)
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1st half is about RENâs struggles with suicidal thoughts. At his worst he told his mom that if his illness continued he couldnât make it another year. The second half is him dealing with the fallout and thoughts of Joeâs death still 10 years later.
RIP Joe
Spot on with your comment.
Not 10 yr later. Joe died either before or in the beginning of Rens illness
@@goobydoot joe disappeared on December 28th, 2010; so 12 years and 5 months and 14 days if you are being pedantic.
I misunderstood your first comment, thought you meant Joe died ten years after the first half of your comment
He didn't try taking his own life because of his friends decision, he's lived through a lot of excruciating pain and pushed on because he didn't want to put anyone through the pain he felt when he wasn't able to save his close friend. He went through more pain and misery from his illnesses than most people ever will but fought through it all. He got a call that Joe was on a bridge and raced to get there but was too late to save him. He's done everything to keep his memory alive, including titling his first album after him "Freckled Angels". Please do more reactions to him, he's a very talented and meaningful artist that deserves all the recognition he gets
And didnât another mate open a restaurant on/or near the bridge called Freckled Angels? I freaking love that this song is starting 100âs if not 1000âs of conversations about this âtabooâ subject. This subject needs to come off the taboo list. There are still too many dying this way. Itâs a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Easier said when youâre not in the thick of it. My son was 12 when his dad killed himself. Itâs 19 yrs and thereâs still stuff we havenât dealt with. Thank you Ren. Your name is stitched to our lips.
Yeah, just bump this comment, cause I wanted to state the same. Ren spoke, and still speaks very openly about all that happend. "How to be me" is actually filmed on the bridge Joe jumped from so far I know. His death, broke and saved Ren at the same time. He said he wanted to die when his illness was at it's worst, but knowing what pain it caused him, loosing his best friend let him push though because he didn't want to cause this pain for anyone around him. It seems true what they say: "The prettiest flowers grow on fields covered in shit."
Bump
@@TheMadHexa Sorry but, no, How To Be Me was not filmed on that bridge. It was filmed on a balcony far from that bridge.
â@@kazpwrightI agree Ren said it himself "words have too much power" and the censorship is making it worse.
This is possibly Ren's best work, a masterpiece that speaks to a subject that is taboo!, but shouldn't be! It is powerful, raw, emotional, brave and a sad and poignant piece of art! God bless Ren for his humanity! Thank you for reactingđ
I feel, like âHi Renâ, this is what will live longer in this world beyond Ren and us.
Beautifully said â€
Yea it's good and the impact should be good, but Hi Ren is likely his best work.
He got so many masterpieces is all about Preference. For me his best is how to be me (live) with Chinchilla
Uh...you may have jumped the gun there, bro. This is going to SAVE lives.
No platform is going to kill this video. CNN did a report on Renâs music contributing to depression and that thing you won't name, before this particular song was ever released, and the reaction was such that they were forced to retract it. â€
Really? I didnât see the retraction.
@@kazpwright Ren apparently shot a video in response to the report and his fans totally bombed CNNâs comments until they retracted. Not sure if it's online...
Where did he say this wasn't going to save lives? His whole point was that Ren was hoping to reach as many as possible. Obviously, he didn't know the specific context, but you can't exactly blame him for that.
@@kazpwright Yeah, he's done an interview with Rolling Stone magazine and mentions it in that.
@@brownsey1 You can find it - google CNN retraction etc. I saw it too.
As a therapist I really believe this song will save lives; it's a beautiful work toward destigmatizing.
Telling people suicide will hurt the people around them won't stop them, I promise they have thought of that.
The thing that keeps me going, that has kept me going for years, is hope. Hope that some day things will get better if I persist. I fully believe that life will get better than this, but if I ever lost that hope...
Since I first heard this song, the similarities between the song and people with suicidal tendencies is revealing.
The first part is upbeat, yet ren is delivering a serious message, much the same as a suicidal person, in the days, weeks leading up to the event they will appear upbeat, yet he is portraying his own struggles with the thoughts and there was a never a right time for him to do it, and we as viewers are very glad he didnât, despite his inner demons. The second part is the reality of what suicide means to everyone involved, and the outcome it has on everyone else surrounded by it.
I think you got it twisted. The whole thing is there in plain words on Ren's channel, in his community posts. His urge to commit suicide was linked to his pain and suffering: his reaction to Joe Hughes' jumping is separate. In producing this song he showed the urge and pushed for restraint, and the last section on his response to Joe is a cautionary tale about the pain you will cause if you do it. It's a double sided call to resist suiciding out.
No he didnât try to take his own life, he was running to the bridge to save his friend and was only seconds too late.
The fact that he said the word repeatedly made me unreasonably happy. Itâs an ugly topic but not shining light on it isnât going to help anything. đđđ
I couldn't agree more.
So absolutely true. So many are at a point of fear of talking about sensitive subjects and that itself is only making everything worse. Humans are social being by nature. Humans need each other on every level whether it's comfortable or not. Silence and complacency can be devastating.
Repeating it like that helps to normalize it. Say it loud until people listen without flinching away and shushing everyone.
100% we need to talk about it...
Was exactly my response too! Take the stigma away!
Ren when he announced this video made a post that tells the story of the end of this song where his friend Joe committed suicide. Before he had heard from other friends that Joe was on the phone so had not jumped yet and Ren ran while constantly phoning him to try and stop him but found the phone went from busy to a dead line while he was running there so he was maybe about 5 minutes late from his friend jumping and the song discusses how not only did he lose a close friend he lost a lot more with other friends and fond memories of his childhood because they remind him of Joe and how he regrets not being faster. Overall this is important to open conversations on suicide and how the act while limits how much your life can get worse it also prevents any progression or improvement that may make life easier or better
Ren said this song went unfinished for a bit and then he started thinking of his best friend making that tragic decision, sat at the piano and the words just fell out of him. He didn't do his normal perfectionist thing on the vocals. He just let it be what it ended up being and bravo to him for the bold move to release this in terms of performance and subject matter. He has a way with words.
Also wanted to throw out that Ren's friend Joe ending his life very possibly saved Ren from making that same choice. He thought about it while living with excruciating pain but saw how this event pained the people around him and he decided it wasn't worth doing no matter how much he was suffering.
He did it because his interview Knox Hill inspired him to
â@@demrickwable Did Ren say that somewhere? About Knox Hill inspiring this specific song. I watched the interview. I didn't hear Ren say that regarding his next video/song.
@@mimikannisto4418 he said "I was talking to Knox recently" czcams.com/video/HJb4M6uqCvo/video.html&ab_channel=RosalieReacts
Ren is the undisputed GOAT.
As said, That poetry at the end Is dedicated to one of his best mates Joe. Joe was going to jump off the the Menai Straits Bridge, It's the bridge that separates, Wales from Anglesey.. Ren ran as fast as he could. He was minutes late. They never found the body. Hence, the last part was raw and very real. The song "Freckled Angels" is about Joe, The Album "Freckled Angels" is Dedicated to Joe. Ren, in the interview, he did with Knox Hill, Ren goes into great detail of what happened leading up to it and after, Joe Jumped. That part starts from 37mins 15secs into the interview, Ren said he had the same thought, before and after he lost his mate. this happened. But It was seeing how Joe's family Suffered , Ren said, no matter how bad I get, I will never do that. and put his mother through that kind of suffering. BTW YT knows about the song and the subject, that's why there's a Warning, and links to helplines. before you decide to watch it
I feel like the addition of the Sick Boi line "I feel like it's not me, it's the world that's sick" turns the subject from himself to everyone else. The AI art does so as well, with all the faces constantly changing to show that it can happen to anyone.
Also, something that never really gets mentioned, but thoughts do not always equal actions. I've known people who have labored with depression all their lives (myself included) who have never made an attempt. I think that gets expressed in the line "It never really felt like the right time." We find ways to cope with those thoughts. Acceptance is a powerful thing, just taking the thought in your hand, gently, looking at it, and letting it drift away. As he says in "Hi Ren", "it's not a battle to be won. It's a dance."
My favorite image is when it starts zooming in traintracks, with a train kinda disappearing, and you see some little people crossing the street, and then the moon appears in the street and you're actually staring at a crack of sky amidst city skyscrapers. Gorgeous.
As someone who has been down this path and come through the other side I can honestly say this song truly broke me to pieces, I love Ren and I love his music, If it wasn;t for me starting the Ren Rabbit Hole with Hi Ren in December, My mental state of mind would not be as good as it is today, I can honestly say!
To those that are suffering in silence I say this, Someone out there somewhere love's you, you are their world, They may not show it some times but you have made an impact on the world around you by existing, Don't turn out that light even in the hardest of times, It will get easier, I promise you this.
I'm glad you're still here with us. I love you and God loves youđ
@@sydneexxceasy9063 Thank you, It means a lot đ„°
SAME HERE THANK YOU
I'm still here too. And it was really bad in March. I was dealing with the death of my dog and my mother's 4 year anniversary of her deathm I was totally broken and then I got a bill from the IRS for a massive tax I couldn't pay due to my parents deaths 2 years apart. It was so hard. Then I finally clicked on the hi Ren video and silly as it sounds my perspective changed and I've been slowly pulling myself out of that hole id dug. Thank you for this comment. We are all important
@@rebelleparrish4937 Thank you for your comment as well and I am glad you are still here with us today even with all the difficulties of the last years you have managed to push on through it and start climbing the mountain on the other side. I believe in you and your ability to get to the top no matter what else may come your way in the future. Peace and Love to you from the UK
Suicide is a rampant across Indian Reservations amongst Indigenous Peoples of North America. It needs to addressed and talked about. This song sheds light on the issues. Thank you Ren for shining a light on this horrible problem.
Yeah its horrible for those on the reservations. Spend their time drunk and high. Best way to end that in Canada is to end the Indian act which would end the reservations completely. Canada treatied with the natives, and they have suicide rates higher than Jews in Auschwitz. The US destroyed them, and there they do just fine (except those on reservations - first clue to end the reservations).
My son was Hopi and Papago. He committed suicide last October
I hope anyone whose lost someone to suicide knows that they carry the memory of the lost and should live on carrying that memory so it isnât lost. đ
REN was suicidal heâs told us years ago but the ending of this song is about his good friend Joe Hughes who sadly took his own life about 13 years ago. The ending was actually added on last minute after his interview with Knox Hill đ€
I think this song is beautiful because Ren is sharing with us all the emotions he is going through because he lost someone so dear to him, thank you Ren, thank you very much â€
I see this as the beginning being Ren, struggling with his illness but the end was all about Joe. Ren got a call that Joe was on the bridge and ran to intercede but he didn't make it in time. He was the 1st to make it to the bridge. He obviously struggles with that night, and with what everyone who know someone who did this struggles with... guilt. It can be crushing. I actually think Joe's decision may have stopped Ren from making the same choice when his health got so bad. He knew the other side.
As someone who has gone through sever mental struggles... including these thoughts, i can assure you, life does get better. It just requires a little work.
Also. It may feel like forever. Like there is no solution. But itâs not forever. This too will pass.
No , he did not try to take his own life. Please note he says his childhood went over that bridge, not his body. He and his friend who did jump grew up together. The second half of this song perfectly illustrates how those left behind are affected by loved ones, and sometimes even strangers that take their own lives. It is my hope that this song may aide those that are considering ending their lives to reach out instead. If nothing else, this gives those of us touched by the loss of someone due to suicide a voice.
Funnily enough, it got #1 trending on CZcams despite the title (and that annoying trigger warning)
This song hit me so hard, and I was somewhat prepared for subject matter - he posted about the night Joe died, and man that was a tough read. Coupled with this song, it's really really painful to hear.
it has almost 500k views in a bit over a day so far. its one of probably his more powerful songs lyrically especially at the end ren punches you right in the feels. the song is a memorial to his best friend Joe hughes who jumped off a bridge and he was just a couple minutes to late and they never found his body
Ren has been suicidal in the past but in his stream today he said he is no longer. Heâs been at his worst and pushed through it and he wanted his fans to know.
With that said you need to know this story is about his best friend Joe Hughes who jumped off a bridge. His body was never found.
Ren lived about 10min away and was called by his friend when they heard Joe was on the bridge. He sprinted there desperately trying to get his friend to answer the phone. 5min out the line went dead. Hence the line about being 5 min faster.
He wrote the song Freckled Angels as a tribute to Joe which was performed for Joeâs friends and family.
If you do listen to the song (and you absolutely should), you should listen to both the studio version and live version.
You gotta let people know that storm you see isn't the end run through it and then when you bust through the other side it's bright sunny and warm
Thank you for doing this reaction. It means a lot to many people out there.
It's of much importance we can talk about "this" - by doing so we might help one and eachother.
With support, love and understanding....a lot can be helped & hopefully be healed.
Saludos âïžđ
This is a very powerful and heartbreaking song from Ren about his friend Jo rest in peace, Joe
Ren pushes to say the things that need to be said. I think it's pretty crappy that CZcams censors it when possible. Ren says screw it, people need to hear this.
"Tragedy or miracle." Without Ren having had his "Brain cremated."
" Tested and Twisted" " We never would of heard "Hi Ren." .. With Ren's off the charts talent He would of made awesome music and had a big fan base ..but nothing as powerful and soul connecting as what he is doing now.
Great reaction as usual!
Great comment and so true!
Donât worry dude - I got this recommended in my feed. Just had to acknowledge a pop up that warned us about the topic.. keep shining my friend and letâs keep growing together đđ
I just listened to Ren for the first time today, I have no words to explain how I feel listening to him, feelings I didnât even know existed
Ren says he never attempted to delete himself, but losing his friend affected him profoundly.
This song is so important, and so gut wrenching. When you're so low that you can't think clearly, it's hard to recognize the damage you'll do to others; I hope this song reaches some and helps them understand how ending things permanently and irrevocably affects everyone who loves you.
Ren is needed in this world...as you are ...as we all are đ„đđ„
Personally, I think his title and repetition of the word is there to help desensitise us (in general). The word suicide is treated as a taboo, especially here on CZcams as you said, but how can we have an open and productive conversation about it if we are scared to say the word? How can we help reach out to those in need if we get punished for even saying the word?! Other than being a powerful and moving song, I think the true power of the song has already started: People are talking about suicide and how it has affected their lives.
All of these reactions have comment sections full of people talking about the topic, and people finding support from others that have been through either suicidal thoughts or losing someone from suicide. Ren brings people together, and even if his song gets limited or taken down, it's already making waves. ^_^
That much hurt is true empathy. Like Ren said in his interview with Rolling Stones thereâs so many words about songs about murder, and just garbage but yet some thing is real is his feelings will get nullified. Thank you for reacting. You are a wonderful individual Ren is a once in a lifetime artist.
Ren said that after experiencing so much pain, seeing what his friends mom went through, and all of the hurt caused, he made the decision that he could not do that. That he could not cause them so much pain to stop his own pain. I think in sharing this, not only as a tribute to Joe, in the hopes that someone else may understand the pain that will be left behind and hang on like he did. He is living proof that it gets better.
Absolutely true. No matter how bad things go in your life, 'deleting' yourself from it should never be an option. I''m swimming in that circle, but I have a stepdaughter which counts on me, I have parents and friends, and I'm not running away. I face it, and I'm sure i'll find a way some day to get trough it. â€â€
Ren is the one true artist of our time - a true reflection of human nature
Age restricted warning at the start . as for YT pulling it đ there,s always a copy somewhere and a YT user who will re post it and then if that goes down another will post ! Ren paints a picture but some will not see it for what it is CNN tried that already,thanks for your honest and faithfull reaction.
We always tell our son not to make a permanent decision for a temporary problem. Heâs 15, two students recently committed the act in our community, we tell him constantly to come to us, that thereâs nothing he could do that we canât work through
The beginning of this song is about Ren, "never the right time" the last 2 minutes is about his best mate Joe. A friend called Ren to tell him Joe was on the bridge. Ren ran as fast as he could. He was 2 minutes late. They never found the body. I can't imagine....then going 10 years misdiagnosed. Ren has made it clear, he's fine and did a livestream to make sure everyone was fine. This was a masterpiece and a loving tribute to his friend Joe as was Freckled Angels.
You can't stop re-thinking what could have been done differently.. And it`s not a choice.. Its just there all the time.. What if.. Great reaction.. Shit i love Ren
Thank you for a very intelligent and passionate reaction. X
I hope you are ok Mr.B.
This is a tough one for sure.
To me...
It is on the level of HI REN.
A song no one knew they needed.
For anyone listening...
If you are in pain please reach out to someone- anyone.
Please.
Just know there are people who don't know you that love you.â€Stay strong as hard as it right now. Just reach your hand out for someone to grab.
Peace and love always
Thanks for Reacting to tougher songs that trigger censorship. Censorship prevents us from having tough talks that we need to talk about. Ren's song/story is sad and anyone having a rough time out there can relate. Music is beautiful in its ability to spread a message and support us when we need it.
This is about Joe who was Ren's friend he jumped from a bridge they never found his body Ren tried to reach him he lived 10 minutes from where he jumped. This song wasn't to be about Joe but after his interview with Knox Hill Ren finished this song. If CZcams takes it down there will be one serious backlash that makes the CNN misrepresenting Ren look like a drop in a ocean. On the brighter side of things Rolling Stone Magazine interviewed Ren and published the article on Friday including linking this song and Hi Ren.
Ren is a generational talent. Great voice with even greater lyrics and messages.
REN reaches through the screen and touches us all....he has forged a link between us all via the soulless medium called the internet!
Ren had thoughts of ending his life (never the right time), but after seeing and experiencing the pain of Joe's death, he knew he could never do it, and has never tried. Oh Ren, we love you so x đ
Thanks for reacting to this song. I have dealt with severe suicidal ideation for most of my life. I fight that battle sometime multiple times a day. Thank you for the message you put to this video. Ive found i watch this when i feel pretty low. It helps to remind me that there are people who do care. God bless you.
What you need to understand is that he does care, it needs to be done regardless. He is opening up a space to talk. The beat is great, lyrics amazing. Just a masterpiece.
First of all I love this song and the video on so many levels. For me the first part of the video looks at all the reasons someone might be feeling when contemplating suicide. The gray and blurry background, the disjointed and disturbing images of REN. It all works to create a feeling of being alone in a very bleak and harsh vision of the self and the worldâŠ.it feels disconnected and hopeless. The words he raps are all pain and anguish and yet despite all of this he knows that there may only be darkness and nothingness when you fall through the cracks to the other sideâŠ.so itâs never the right time for suicide.
In the second part of the video the background is much lighter but the face and words REN speaks are all about the hurt and guilt suicide creates for those who are left behind. Not only dose he miss his friend but he also misses the part of his life and himself that died with his brother.
The take away message for me; no matter how painful and hard life is their is always the possibility for things to get betterâŠ.life is fragile but as long as there is life their is hope. If your are having suicidal thoughts hold on, reach out for help and support. As a nurse and as someone dealing with depression I know that the mental health sector needs reform. We need to get away from the almost total reliance on pharmaceuticals. More holistic ways of helping people are desperately needed. Suicide, we donât like to think about it or talk about it. In todays world we are told we cannot even use the word anymore, as if that helpsâŠthis is absurd! If we canât discuss it we cannot help ourselves or anyone else.
REN we are so glad you learned how to dance with your demons. You are so courageous and a much needed voice for our times. We love you for opening up your heart and your mind to us. Big ups to you for sharing your genius, your creativity and musical artistry youâre such a breath of fresh air. We love you for choosing life âđŒđ«¶đŒđđœ
Social media and news outlets can try to stop him, but they canât. As an independent artist Hi Ren hit 1 mil views in a few months. Suicide is already at a half mil in less than 48 hours. We NEED an artist like Ren. Speaking from experience, not talking about sensitive matters is more harmful than helpful. I needed this raw artistry growing up because all I wanted was someone who understood. Unfortunately, everything was brushed under the rug in the 80s and 90s.
Iâve lost a few close people and it never gets better that they left. Please know you are LOVED and worth it. You are so loved
Ive been going thru some horrible hard things in my life for the last yr or more and no end in sight. Things could most likely get worse. Ive wrestled with ending it all to avoid worse things and consequences for my life. My Ren journey has brought me back and gave me hope. Everything happens for a reason and my exposure to Ren and his meaningful insight, lyrics, and conveyance of emotion thru music couldnt have come at a better time for me. To be honest, main thing that kept me from contemplating sui***e was the effect it would have on loved ones, friends, family, girlfriend was what stuck with me. Life is a gift, it is up to you what you will do with it. Will u let the hardships make you a better stronger person or let it break you? No matter how bad things may seem right now, hold on to hope, cling to positivity no matter how absurb it sounds. Surrounding yourself with loving positive people will drown out the negative voices you tell yourself or that life throws at you. If you are struggling with suicide, reach out for help. That isnt a sign of weakness but of courage and strength. No matter how strong you think you should be or how strong others are, they arent. We all need some help sometimes. Never stop improving on yourself and sharing your struggles, failures, and TRIUMPS with others. Dont take the easy way out, we all have an amazing story to tell, dont end yours prematurely without letting your story develop and play out. I hope this makes someone rethink their current feelings about their life, hang on, no matter what you think, there are people that love you, you do have more worth than you know. If your life story sucks and is depressing right now, its up to you to get help put the work in to change the ending to an inspirational story no matter what the odds may seem right now. Such a powerful meaning related message that can change and touch so many lives and families. God bless Ren and his boldness, insight, and message for all people.
I love that heâs donating over 14k to the group that helped search for his friend Joe after his âjump into tranquilityâ. Iâm so grateful that I have had friends show up just in time more than once.
I also love that no matter what country you live in the help lines such as 988 are published in the top of comments.
Iâm so grateful he reached me⊠Iâm devastated I wasnât able to reach my daughter with this message. Itâs been months since I could listen to this. Iâm glad Iâm still here but completely broken by her choice.
thanks for reviewing this one. i love that in rens description on YT is just the number for the hotline. my wife used to work there and they do save lives. â€â€
Respect to you MrLboyd âź
I so appreciate your sensitive response to this video and your comments to anyone watching who might be going through doubts about whether they should be here. You are a lovely human being.
Ren is brave to open up about painful subjects. This song especially. It hits me hard. Several years ago I found a young man that took too many pills trying to end his pain. I found him in time to save him. I read his note while the medics worked on him. I feel bad for him and his family for all they must've gone through that day.
I still think of him and hope he understands and forgives me for spoiling his plans.
I carry the pain of losing one of my closest friends 4 years ago still. I still ask why and wonder if I could have done more for him. The guilt and grief is real and still brings me to tears.
And like Ren with his friend Joe, I bury it most of the time. The effects of people taking this action on friends and family is undying.
I love this reaction, I appreciate you being so raw and empathetic to this. Such a real issue with the world today... So many people struggles daily with this
"If it's not important to anyone around you, it should be important to you." Very powerful words! Thank you for your reaction!
How are we as a society supposed to address an important issue if we're not even allowed to say its name? I really hope Ren found a way with this song.
I think he must have passed it by youtube. Because its trending. He didn't try to take his own life. Like in Hi Ren when he stood up. He fought it understood it, he was triumphant.
To get it past youtube he hade to replace a letter with the *
Ren puts context for most of his songs in a comment under the video. Iâll let him explain it.
Great reaction. If you catch Ren's interviews with Rosalie or Knox Hill they explains a lot.
Justin Hawkins and black Pegasus too. Also Rolling Stone interview dropped today. Renâs getting AROUND đ
thank you for reacting to this â€Ren is starting a movement of love †about time someone sang about this subject another masterpiece by my favourite artist ever â€â€
Thank you for reacting to this difficult topic. This is a beautiful piece of work.đđŠ
This topic NEEDS to be talked about so much more. It's a crisis, especially amongst men. Sending love to anyone who needs it. â€
No, social media is not going to take it down. They cannot stop Ren.
He's breaking barriers. Keep an eye on him. He's worth it.
The only thing I can say from my own struggle (for whoever reads this) is that despite the weight of your world, despite the pressure, and despite the feeling that life itself feels like it wants you to commit the act... there is a satisfaction that can be found in surviving. The strength it takes to not commit when it feels like there is no one who wants you or the world doesn't want you, I promise there is a (maybe selfish or weird) satisfaction with fighting against that and THAT is an incredible strength. Keep taking steps. Keep trying to claw out of the hole you're in. Even if you are truly alone, don't fucking quit
Thank you so much for all the commentary that you have done! I really really valued it and I want to join your patreon. I am sorry that you have been demonetized because you're insights are always an added value.
The reason it doesnât happen more oftenâŠis like Ren said, itâs never the right time.
The biggest reason more people donât, is because we are thinking about our families, and our friends.
Itâs a shame to say, but most people donât follow through, because they donât want to hurt everyone else that loves them.
His friend's decision to opt out is the reason Ren would not try it. He doesn't want to do that and hurt family and friends. This song is so powerful to convey a message of what happens to the folks that are left.
Everyone I know has faced or is facing the pain of loss, we NEED to bring it to the surface, we need to heal and find a way forward. In Rens deepest dispair and illness Ren chose to be with us and those who love him. Joe did not make that same choice, Ren could not stop him.
He's written his thoughts on the original release, from REN. It tells you what happened, that day.
This, to my shock with todays shadow banning, had actually hit #1 trending at one point on youtube. With suic+de rates increasing, it's an important message to hear. Both sides, in a sense, that most will have those thoughts in their life at least once. But then it shows the absolute heartbreaking effects of what hurt is left behind.
If you are reading this, YOU WOULD BE MISSED, YOU ARE LOVED, you're unique and irreplaceable, your life matters, and I love you, from human to human, we All need to uplift each other
Ren in on this Planet for a big purpose and this song just proves it with the millions he is touching with his messages through his performances.
This song helped me reconfirm the knowledge I have that I would hurt so many if I committed suicide (which is a desire that chases me when I feel like I canât handle internal pain). At my age, I know that I could ruin the lives of those around me. The people I love most in the world. I think about the ripple effects it would cause. I know that although Iâm a walking chemistry experiment with antidepressants and other prescriptionsâŠthereâs still pain that Iâm tired of trying to treat with drugs. I know I need to delve into dark waters personally and with the help of a professional. My husband feels guilty like itâs his fault. He couldnât make me âhappyâ and that was HIS job. Iâve told him my depression and pain has always been thereâŠlong before him and itâs not his responsibility to snap me out of it. No one other than me (with help) can. Its often said that suicide is a âpermanent solution to a temporary problem!â We do need to find compassion for those who suffer though. So many people firmly believe suicide is a selfish act in the hopes of hurting someone or everyone. Maybe there is disillusioned people who do it for that reason, but for me the desire is to get rid of pain thatâs so intense you actually feel like your presence in this life is a burden to yourself and others. Itâs like jumping off one of the twin towers on fire to avoid that pain of being burned alive to certain death. I truly believe there are people in this world who are trained and skilled to help us to ease the pain we have to have the humility and courage to seek them out. Theyâre not our friends and family. Itâs interpersonal real work we have to do. Hope Iâm not too preachy. Itâs what I tell myself because Iâm in it right now.
I absolutely can tell you this song isn't encouraging anything, it's speaking truth about suic!de, Ren had the thoughts not because of what his friend did specifically but he had mental health struggles due to his disease being misdiagnosed and how it made him feel the medication being wrong and him not feeling better but feeling worse. It's weighs on you, your thoughts, it weighs on your body. It so much harder to explain than just a comment section.
My favorite description of suicide is "a permanent solution to a temporary problem" Thank you Ren for your fearlessness. Transparency and vulnerability. #protectREN
This just hit one million views in 12 days.
Astounding
I'm not sure Ren makes music for his fans. He makes music for himself to share with his fans and he openly says he uses it as therapy. He's looked at suicide from both side in this video, from one contemplating and from the side of someone who's lost someone close. The video hasn't been killed anywhere, there are warnings. This song is brutally painful, both for people who have contemplated or tried and for those who have lost people. This may be his most openly honest song he's ever written and watching the reactions are hard, but I keep watching them because there's a catharsis that goes along with it.
That second half of the song, especially the part about the ocean and his tear ducts, kinda reminds me of Transatlanticism by Death Cab For Cutie, which is a song about loss as well
The Atlantic was born today, and I'll tell you how
The clouds above opened up and let it out
I was standing on the surface of a perforated sphere
When the water filled every hole
And thousands upon thousands made an ocean
Making islands, where no islands should go (oh no)
Most people were overjoyed, they took to their boats
I thought it less like a lake and more like a moat
The rhythm of my footsteps crossing flatlands to your door
Have been silenced forevermore
And the distance is quite simply much too far for me to row
It seems farther than ever before (oh no)
I think reactors need to be advised to read RENâs comments on this track prior to reacting to it to understand his story a little and not misinterpret the reasons behind him releasing this song
It needs to be discussed. This masterpiece shows both sides, mainly the "fallout" of the action. How 'your' actions will ripple through time and affect everyone more than you know. You can be stronger than you think. People care more than you know.
The line about 5 minutes and running late. Ren got a call saying his friend joe was on the bridge and was saying goodbye. He ran to Joe but didnt make it in time. I also read he gave 20k to the search effort for his friends body
Only Ren can touch such sensible topic and NOT get banned/indexed by the social media.
The first part is from the viewpoint of someone considering suicide. Melancholic, but catchy tune... Suicide is one part to stop the pain...but as Ren posted on his community page:
"Suicide does eliminate the possibility that things will get worse, but it also eliminates all possibility that things could ever get better.
I was in a situation that seemed impossible to climb out. I climbed out. I would have never given myself that option if I choose to opt out of living.
Is my life easy now? No, not close, am I glad to be alive? every day. Is life good? Yes. Did I believe life could be good back then? mostly no, but I carried on and gave myself that chance.
I know that the last song may have opened some wounds, and been close to the bone for some people, but for anyone going through difficult times at the moment, give yourself the option to make life better. You deserve that chance
I love you".
The second part is the viewpoint for those left behind, in this case of Ren missing his best friend Joe and feeling guilty that he arrived too late.
By sharing his vulnerability he opened this path for others and gives comfort induces healing.
More Ren please!
He is my favorite Artist, you are my favorite reactor... So I will literally click on every Ren reaction you put up. And I'm gonna like, subscribe and comment.
Keep going!
If you go to his page, he shared the story of Joe Hughes there a few days ago. Joe doing that made him realise that he did not mean his earlier statements to his mom that he didn't know what he would do if this illness lasted over a year, that he didn't think he could go on forever like that. He's been on the survivor's side and learned he could not hurt the people who love him that way no matter how much pain he was in. Ren also discussed Joe on the Knox Hill Interview, in fact, the second part of the song came about because of that interview.
Ren's named the thing that social media won't. Nobody ever learns from things that are kept under wraps. This song is making people talk about their experiences with suicide, from considering but not attempting it, to attempting but surviving it, or having to live on, as Ren does, after someone they loved did not survive it. Social media companies think they can protect themselves from accusations of liability by blocking and ringfencing the use of the word itself and restricting access to content. Like we used to not talk about that kid who didn't come back to school. But these days, schools provide support and discussion after a student commits suicide. They don't sweep it under the rug and pretend that kid never existed. Social media needs to embrace that. Of course, they won't because that would require having actual humans able to differentiate this use of a word from that use of a word, and algorithms that toss out every use of the word work for free.
If YT removes it, and I doubt they will, or it will stay gone, I bet Ren posts a save and share copy somewhere. It's another one of those taboo subjects that need to be openly discussed to reduce numbers.
Your reactions are always top notch!
We need to stop giving power to words. We have to talk about these hard subjects to help those who have these feelings and need help. Its all about love.
There must be those with whom we can sit down and weep, and still be counted as warriors.
Try listening to freckled angels next, that will give you more perspective about this song⊠Love ren everything he does just gets better and better and yeah this song broke me as well
This is a song that is brilliant and I could see it is a top of the charts song. The topic is important unfortunately main stream may reject it. But is compelling and I am drawn more and more to Ren's extraordinary talent.
His song with Chinchilla, âHow to Be Me,â is filmed on the bridge his friend jumped from and itâs beautiful as well.
Wise words brother. Keep up the good work. â€ïž
Destigmatization of topics like this is essential for prevention. Because if someone is suicidal it can hinder them seeking help if it is so stigmatized and uncomfortable for people to talk about. If you can openly tell someone "I'm suicidal" and they can respond "well lets talk about that and get some help" then you can prevent it. But so many people don't want to talk about it, or they belittle those who do. It's a scary subject for sure, it's scary because it hits home for everybody and being in such a dark place and cloud your vision. It's scary to think there may come a time where you are so deep in depression or pain that you would consider taking your own life, but if you keep that locked inside it only grows into something more chaotic.
Ren is trying to push the fact that suicide is a massive contributor to death in the modern age as well as how something so wide spread can have a very personal impact. Awareness is not complicity, in fact it's the opposite. It's calling out the problem instead of letting it mutate in the dark.