Maserati Grancabrio - 4 Things You Lose Other Than The Roof! ZF Vs MC?
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2023
- Is this the pound for pound greatest DadCar in the world? Whats better the MC shift automated manual or the ZF torque converter auto? What do you loose going topless? can you fit child seats in and a buggy in the boot?
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Sending positive thoughts out into the universe, Ben, you will own an FF and a 4.7 GranTurismo and much more. Your kids will one day look back on your videos and your passion for cars and more importantly for your family, will make them proud!
Ah thanks man 🥹 very kind words 🙏
@@dadcars What microphone did you use to record the audio?
If I had to have a single car for all situations it would be a GranCabrio. As it stands I'm hoping to keep it separate and my #1 pick for a replacement daily to go alongside my Alfa Romeo Spider is a gen 5 Quattroporte (late S or GT S). It's such a bucket list car and engine in particular. Thank you, Ben, for bringing your perspective to the world of automotive CZcams, and I hope your channel keeps growing so you can land yourself in that 4.7L V8 someday.
Thanks for the lovely comment 🥲🙏
It always makes me smile when your daughter nods off on these reviews, no matter how loud the car is. She obviously finds being in a car comfortable, which is good sign for a future petrol head 👌
For me there are two cars that undeniably look better as a convertible rather than a coupe; the Jaguar E-Type and the Chrysler Crossfire
Great shouts, yes there’s nothing that soothes my little ones to sleep like a V8/V12 😊
What sold this clip for me was the look of absolute delight on your daughter's face whenever you gave it the beans. The sound of that engine is second to none. I remember the old Top Gear clip where Clarkson told May to shut up so he could hear the howl of a Quattroporte being driven at full chat by the Stig. Pure opera!
It’s so cool how much she enjoys these cars… she always talks about this one still now
You have a future petrolhead in the making there.
so this was a garage queen. Owners say these cars should be driven, the engine is bullet proof but they don't like being parked for long in the garage. A beautiful design. Tnx for the video.
Ben, if treated properly, the clutch of the MC gear shift does not need to be replaced more often than a regular clutch of a sporty car:
1. Like with any robotized manual, try to prevent crawling through traffic jams. The clutch remains engaged to roughly 7km/h (under 5 miles/h). That is, if commuting on highways, leave a bit of a gap to the car in front of you to close the gap with over 7 km/h. But then again, such beauties are a waste for commuting in traffic jams anyhow.
2. As per the user's manual, you are not supposed / don't need to lift the throttle for shifting with the MC gearbox. If it is too jerky, just calibrate the clutch yourself (see below).
3. To calibrate the clutch yourself for free in less than 15 seconds, step on the brake and hold it. Turn on the ignition and keep on holding the brake pedal for 10 seconds (do NOT turn on the engine). This makes the clutch sensor measure the clutch wear and recalibrate the clutch. You are welcome!😊
4. Following the procedures above, my Granturismo S with the MC gear box had still 60% of the usable clutch layer left when I sold it with a mileage of 90k km (56k miles). And this despite the fact that I do not know how the previous owner treated the clutch (crawling in traffic jams?). I bought the car with a mileage of 40k km (25k miles).
This is interesting! I’ll be seeing my friend with the MC shift GT soon and will discuss 🫡
the seats are beautiful!!
Something very special about Italian leather 😍
Love it mate. Nailed the delivery as usual and great to feature another beautiful Italian machine ;)
Nice QP in there as well 😉🙌
I agree completely about that V8 sound. I never tire of it in my Quattroporte, even here on the narrow roads of the Isle of Wight. Every trip is an event that gets the adrenaline flowing and make me grin. Cars that I think look better as a convertible include the Triumph TR7, the Jaguar XJ-S and the Series 3 E-Type.
Ah QP on the island! Not far from me 😎 that may well be my next car 😉 great shouts in the convertibles, I love the XJS although don’t you loose the back seats in the convertibles?
@@dadcars Yes, just over the Solent. I used to work in Farlington so recognise many of the local roads you use in tests, especially Portsdown Hill. The QP is very long but otherwise a practical option, and although not as good looking as a GranTurismo it's far from ugly - I still look back at it in a car park. If you buy one I doubt you will be disappointed force money 🙂.
A wise choice 🤌🏼🤌🏼🇮🇹
One of the best things ive found about using a convertible sports car with kids is the fact you can literally just drop them straight in to the seat with the roof down on nice days.
I bet you could even get my babyzen pram in that boot (just). What a car. Even the interior cant take away from that noise!!
So easy getting them in when the roof is down 😅
Man I just found your channel and love it 😊 Keep up the good stuff!
Thanks! Glad you found us! So many cool videos to watch already and more to come 😊
Only saw the second time round: The little one in the back fell asleep. Great feature of this car!
Pickle certainly loved this car! Loved the squeal! Great review hmm I could be tempted with this!
Another great honest review Ben !! Thanks
Thanks Simon! Glad you’re enjoying the channel 😊
Glorious sounding thing! Great video Ben, as usual :)
Thanks man 😊
Another brilliant enthusiastic video
Thanks Peter 🙌😊
Hi Ben! Andy from California again. Loved your daughter's reaction to the GranCabrio S! Such a darling child and smart too. Your comments on the looks of the GranCabrio S vs GranTurismo coupé S I totally agree with the coupé is a 10/10 and the GranCabrio S is a 9.5/10. The alfresco driving and sound made my choice between the 2 nearly impossible, but depreciation meant I could afford BOTH! Which is what I did. In fact my GranCabrio S is Blue over Parchment with the same amazing 15 spoke Trident wheels like you example in this review. My coupé is Bordeaux over tan. Both 4.7 ZF cars and both under 13k miles. With regard to your question of coupé vs convertible looks, there are few cars I think looks better as a convertible, one is the Jensen Interceptor which I think looks ungainly in coupé form but better as a convertible. Another possible exception is the Triumph TR7/TR8 (the latter my dad owned in coupé form) which I think look better as top down roadsters. IMHO. Love your channel and videos. If you ever get to California, you can take my 2011s (Coupé S and Cabrio S)out for back to back drives if you'd like. Cheers! Wildly under appreciated cars.
Awesome thanks Andy! A DadCars road trip across California would be amazing!! One day 🤞
@@dadcars Do it soon, as I plan on retiring to Oahu in 5-7 years time... but you could still borrow my cars there if it comes to that. 🙂 Cheers mate!!
THAT CLOUD.... above your little one in the back, around the 16-17 minute mark was EVER SO spooky!!!
Whooaaaaaa!!!! Nice one Ben!!!!
I know right! What a car 😎
With the roof down a cabrio looks good but I don't know one that does with the roof up. New 911 looks even bulky to me with roof up and down. These big Maserati's are a thing of beauty (both GT and cabrio). Thank you both for the entertaining video!
Thanks Guy :)
Wow brilliant mate. Weldone. The passion is nuts. Were you about to cry there? Hahahaahaha
Roof was down, something flew in my eye 🤷♂️
@dadcars 🤣🤣🤣 💯 %. I loved your review man. Proof of concept. Dads who want cool stuff but do it with their kids. Like drive top down in a maserati. All the best with your channel bro. I'm def getting one now thanks to you.
Another absolute stunner, Ben!
These masers are special aren’t they!
@@dadcars indeed 😀
In the rear armrest is part of the acoustic box for the rear subs and because there is no longer a flip-down armrest. I had to repair the speakers in my '10 Grancabrio.
Thanks for answering this 🙌
How did you repair the rear speakers/subwoofers? Mine are blown and removed because I could not find a reasonable replacement. I have a 2012 US model with the two speakers.
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Yes, the factory glue used to secure the center dome (dust cover) on the speaker separates and can cause the dome to crack. I used a high-quality glue, Rhino Glue, to resecure the dome and repair the crack. The fix has held-up for over two years with no more crackle/buzz sound with the volume up.
I’ve had a fair few Maseratis, and I have to say, I have not had ANY maintenance issues other than the usual servicing. Admittedly, most were almost new cars or new, but even so, treat them well and in my experience you won’t go far wrong. I have a 488 spyder, and I’d say that and the huracan spyder are two of the best looking cabs out there
Awesome! Yeah cars not being driven and or differed maintenance is the issue with the Maseratis as they get older imo
Hi Ben, JayEmm channel subscriber from New Zealand 🇳🇿 here. As a 51yr old father of five, the youngest of whom is 6, I luv the concept of your channel. 👏 Try the W209 Mercedes Benz CLK in either coupe or convertible. I’ve had one for seven years and it’s excellent as a daily driver dad car in my opinion. Mine is a V6. Keep up the good work 👍
Welcome to the channel! Glad you found us! Great shout on the merc, there are a few I need to feature 😎
Already subscribed... best wishes Ben!
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Great car, new to me; great review. Pickle's car-reviewing career is coming on almost as nicely as yours Ben!
She’s better than me 🙌😅
Yes for me the original classic Maserati Ghibli Spyder looks better than it’s coupe version. It’s stunning. Love the channel, you really pick the best cars. Also loved your vid on the Porsche Cayenne. Want one of those badly too!
That cayenne turbo is glorious! I’d love to get one for my wife 😎
Hi Ben and Daughter, hope your doing good.
That was a very cool video. I love that color blue on that car. I love the wood steering wheel too.
Stay safe and take care.
Thanks Frank 🙌
@@dadcars Your welcome Ben.
Great video. Will definitely check out the GranTurismo review. IMO, I think the Jaguar XK and F-Type look better with the roof down. But, like the Maserati, we are talking 10/10 vs. 9/10 for the coupes. Overall, beautiful cars.
Yeah they do look fantastic although I think I still prefer the lines of the XK coupe!
Thanks for the video. I suspect the raised rear centre armrest is covering a structural beam attempting to stiffen the body shell after removing the roof. How was the car for scuttle shake?
The DB9 Volante suffers from scuttle shake but the XKR and SL do not.
Just discovered your channel Ban & clan 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Big love and hugs from an 89 xj40 /9000turbo/Alfa Sportswagon/E55 driving fellow north London spirit in Sydney
🙌😊 awesome glad you found us!
this engine is something else, it would be interesting comparing it with bmw's s65 sound wise.
I can’t wait to feature a E93… 🙌
You are right about that sound for 30k. Maybe a CL63 AMG comes somewhere near for not massive money. However, the Masser sings.
CL63 is a great shout, can’t wait to feature one 🫡
I just love your inclusion and relationship with your daughter. I have the same with my 4.7y.o. and she loves daddys catcar (the 89 Jag) 🥰
My guess is the hump between the rear seats is to prevent anyone from sitting in the middle because there is no rollover protection in that area.
What a sweet girl she have already a good taste of good cars like Daddy 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 hahah cool 😊
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Great contenders in the likes of engine sound...BMW E39 M5 and especially the E60 M5 with the V10. You can find some at the price point of 30k. I don't know how much a used Audi S8 costs of the same era, but it also has a rather nice sounding V8.
👍 The E39 we featured sounded amazing but it was modified
W204 C63 would be another great pick in the sub £30k or even sub £20k nice sounding car boxes
so tempting... on the very possible maybe one day ticks lots of boxes sight sound auto drop top list! Is the engine in the Quattroporte the same power / sound?
Yeah same engine, 4.2 and 4.7… and sounds equally as incredible especially the GTS 😎
There are lots of drop tops that look as good or better than their coupe siblings with the roof down, but not many that look better with their roofs up
Yep I agree 👍
If you look at the back, the GranTurismo looks a lot wider than the Gran Cabrio you lose the massive rear haunches on the GC, maybe this is why the rear seat space looks to be less as you mentioned the rear arm rest which is higher but also looks thinner than the GT. And speaking of cars which look better in cabrio form, the Alfa Romeo 916 Spider looks far nicer than it's GTV equivalent.
I think that may be a design trick on the eyes, same with the DB9, the rear shoulders are highlighted by the way the coupe tapers in towards the back. Great shout on the Alfa!
I had a ride in that exact car mate, same number plate
Awesome!!! You know why I was smiling so much then! 😊
Yea you should have a ride in the red one
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Superb Ben. What a stunning car! I love how much genuine passion you put into these reviews, it’s mind blowing!
Made me laugh when you said about EV’s being lifeless 😂
This car makes no sense to EV diehards 😅
Sound question: I also have an Abarth500 which sounds epic for a Turbo 4 cylinder less than $30k... but I agree with you the 4.7 V8 sounds the best
Is your Abarth standard?
Not quite :-) Madness500 ECU, turbo blanket, cold air intake front strut brace and power pedal new turbo.@@dadcars
2 things. (1) Never say "cheaper," say "less expensive". (2) You Brits still drive on the wrong side. 🎉😂 Excellent Review.
I am currently looking for one of this. The 4 real seats is a selling point over other similar cars (like DB9 Volante). How would you rate the sounds of the maserati vs your DB9? Different notes, but Maserati seems more entertaining
It’s the sound at low speeds you get from standard on these masers that’s just incredible. I’ve fitted an exhaust switch on my car but under 3k rpm it’s still very understated. You can fix that but requires modification.
Boxster Spyder is the car which looks better than its Cayman counterpart.
Great shout
I find the GranCabrio looks better than the GranTurismo - I wouldn't bother getting the GranTurismo over an E39 M5 or a B7 RS4 wagon. I guess, I'm honestly of the opinion that coupes shouldn't exist - but if the roof comes down, then that's a justification...
Very stupid probably impossible idea but can u check a rolls Royce dawn or phantom drophead coupe as well? They seem to be a proper adult sized 4 seat convertibles as well
I hope to yes
@@dadcars nice
With the Grancabrio being a newer model. Are a lot of the older maserati issues fixed with this model? Or does it have the same issues?
People say the never the cars are the better they are but the cab has the added complexity of the roof remember so if reliability is the concern I’d go for the newest Turismo you can afford.
As I’m sure you know, I think you had one? , the Elise looks better without it’s roof.
Technically all Elise’s are convertibles, although I’ve always thought they look best when the hardtop is in place… makes it hard to get in and out though 😅
Love the shout out to Sports Italia. Great guys, it's just a shame they aren't the best lookers. (Hi Matt).
yet to meet them myself but when I finally get a maser I know where I’ll be taking it 👍
I’ve always thought that the Porsche 944 cab. looks better than the coupe
I’ve always liked the looks of those too actually 😅
Great review, thanks. Not even Alex would dare to wear those shorts, please be serious. #MrNiceLegs
These are basically trousers to me! My first ever CZcams video I was in high cut running shorts where you can see my breakfast 🙈
Maserati is definitely a sensation over stats car. And heart over head. The grancab especially so. I looked at a few but couldn’t stomach the maintenance costs. The weight of these cars is unforgivable though it’s over 500kg heavier than a 911 cab!
The looks and sound of a 911 aren’t comparable IMO and maintenance on a 996 or 997 can be similar if you’re unlucky 🙈 the 911 will fair much better on a spirited drive though
3k worth of maintenance on a 911 you’ll be able to do the full service like all the fluids, water pump and even the dreaded crossover coolant pipes that are difficult to do. With a Maserati, you’ll get a small service and attention on the brakes. There’s a big difference in general running costs.
I think that the latest Porsche 911 Targa looks better than the coupe.
Alfa 939 spider looks better than the Brera on which it’s based. Much better in fact
That’s a grout shout! 👏
BMW e93 m3
Boxster is a better looking car than a Cayman.
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I can`t think of ANY car that looks better in convertible then coupe. I can think of dozens that look better with the roof down. And also dozens that look better with a hard top fitted (the E46 M3 for example)
Yeah that’s the real tricky one… a convertible with the roof up almost always looks awkward
The Grancabrio is way better looking the the Granturismo .
audi r8 i think looks better topless and gallardo too
But they’re not comparable in any way. The MC20 Cielo is a beautiful car, but none of them are proper DadCars
@@JonWhitworth i agree but it is prettier... Alex from autoalex said that all 4 seat convertibles looks like a bathtub on wheels .. which is kinda true haha.. i have a4 convertible and it is like that
Saloons in particular do look like rolling bathtubs 😅 nothing like a convertible on a sunny day though 😎 funnily enough Alex also made this feelings clear about Maseratis in our video too 🙈
Cobra 427
Cobra looks better in cabrio,but doesn't sound as good as maserati(not even close)
Hilarious. Why should you want to put a buggy in there. Use the Land Rover
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2013 Audi RS5 ‘ sounds better with 455 hp. Quattro all wheel 🛞 drive
Ooooo… I’ll have to test that myself to be sure!
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Audi A4 looks better as a convertible.
Does it with the roof up though? 🤔
@@dadcars in most colours, I would say, probably not, I was going by my own car, which is in cosmic yellow ( gold )with a black roof. My own dadcar, enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work., best regards
R8 looks better in convertible
That’s a hot take… I could see a debate on this though 😅
Here in Canada ONLY
$ 19,000. Canadian in the USA starting $ 6,000. USD. Because there so frickin expensive in PART'S & SERVICING... Shock no bushing each $ 2 k USD 😮 each Catalytic converter
$ 13 K God junk the thing...😅