Victoria 3... JAPAN! | Ep 3 | Building an Economy From Scratch!
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2024
- Japan is COMPLETELY different in vibe from anything we've played before. We are isolationists (at least to start!) and must build a complete industry chain from scratch. Do we open our borders? Do we open other people's borders... by force? Let's find out!
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I feel I need to make this comment now, before Quill researches railroads and begins crippling his economy again by repeating the same mistake. DO NOT start spamming railroads in every province and switching all buildings to use rail transport. If you do this AGAIN the following will happen: you will immediately have a shortage of transportation; you will increase the cost of producing all the goods using rail transport and reduce their supply because of the shortage debuff; you will unemploy many people who will fall back into peasant status and radicalize when you already have a massive supply of peasants to employ; then Quill will spend the next 5 years in game building railroads almost exclusively attempting eliminate the local transport shortages all over the map. The net result will be 5+ years of poor economic growth and increasing radicalism.
So please Quill let the peasants have a job carrying stuff so they can feed themselves instead of devoting all your development efforts avoid hiring the poor. You'll find your economy will be much stronger and you will have far fewer radicals and more loyalists if you build railroads ONLY where you need infrastructure.
It's kinda insane that you build railroads to transport stuff but you shouldn't tell anyone to use them to transport anything. :p
@@poilboiler It's very simple: the railroads provide a LOT of infrastructure but very little transportation capacity. Until you have more advanced railroads and passenger cars almost all the transport capacity will be used up by your pops without you telling them to do anything. If you tell people to use rail for everything you have a massive shortage of transportation. Also railroads are very expensive to build and consume locomotives which are not efficient to build because they consume steel which is not efficient to build....I hope you see where this is going.
I really want to see Quill play Great Qing as his head will explode when he looks at unrealised taxes, so much higher than Japan, on high taxes it is over 1 billion.
You don’t want to worry about taxation capacity before you industrialise. Most of those unrealised taxes are coming from rural farmers, and they are super inefficient to tax, so your burocracy buildings will be a net negative (wages for clerks will cost more than you can collect in taxes). You will benefit from them in the long run, but really you should just focus on industrialising a couple of provinces first and improving taxation capacity in those provinces.
Japan has no inland states, you can get by on ports for infrastructure for a surprisingly long time. Also, Japan has so much arable land it's hard to wrap your mind around it and even harder when you realize that most of it is rice land which is effectively two arable land when it's undeveloped. At 60 construction points per week, it will take 98.765 years to fill all the arable land in Japan; the only viable way to get rid of the peasantry is to employ them in factories, trying to do it Scottish-Enclosure-style is an incredibly unrewarding gameplay experience.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like giving in to free trade defeated the entire point of this let's play, the whole idea was to have to build everything in house, now it's just the same as every other run
The game is specifically designed to make autarky non-viable; you're not wrong that there's a samey-ness to opening the market, but without it it's just 100 years of watching your tool industry gradually spin up and trying to luck into not being attacked.
@@Endymionologist idk maybe, but I've had good runs being isolationist Japan and rushing colonies and stuff, and it's pretty easy to hold off invasions with just a bit of infantry tech
Quill never said the objective of the playthrough was to build up everything within and be self-sufficient. He just said starting out that is what you have to contend with as Japan until you can move the politics to changing out of isolationism.
They gave you the option to just accept without a diplomatic play for opening your market, it was just speed 5 and you seemed to miss the option in the top right.
Like others have said, taxation capacity in Japan is a trap. The unrealized taxes are subsistence farmers which will cost more to employ an administration building than you collect. Industrialize first and then tax once you have a few factories.
The paper is also better spent at universities to catch up with technology.
@26:00 they were offering the diplomatic play but it expired before you noticed cause you play on speed 5 .-.
26:09 This is why you don't play on max speed lol. You not only didn't catch the not-forced option, you didn't even know it happened. In an earlier episode you almost missed a gold rush too, and caught it only with 1 day remaining.
Japan does have a state with both iron and coal in it.
I think it's a self imposed nerf to play with direct investment pool on a regressive nation. Because while you can decide what to build and where... You can only use your investment pool on buildings which empower the landowners or the rural folk. Meanwhile with private investment pool - those funds won't be spent efficiently, but they can be spent on literally anything that will fulfill a demand in your market. It's still skewed, but you can be on traditionalism and have serfdom and your private investment will build you iron mines if you lack iron. While with those laws on direct investment it will take government funds.
Quill passes a law that helps him colect more taxes;
Also Quill:" I wonder why the standard of living has decreased for my pops". 😂
I like Appointed Bureaucrats more in the game. The PB usually make similar demands to the landowners later in the game, so I don't like them lol. I'm usually also trying to make the Intelligentsia stronger.
18:45 Bureaucrats go with either the Intelligentsia or PB or Landowners. The tooltip says which way they flip based on that law category.
Oh thank god he reformed his government before proceeding.
Unfortunately, his tax laws aren't very good, so all these government buildings are (mostly) costing more than they collect.
If you change basic production metod it tries to tell you basic values so dont trust secondary productions stats as those will be recalculated
10:23 it's likely it's also counting the reduction of workers, which will end up making less production.
I know you prerecord these and likely don't see this comment, but the reason quality of life fell down os because the US started to buy your liquor which increased the price for the peasants
He also fired a bunch of soldiers which probably went back to peasantry. I dunno what his mil wages are now though.
i had some runs where the church ppl didnt want churchregulated schools i was so confused
Nooo Quill, you should've stayed isolationist ... and role play it .... :(
I play a long side you and I disband half my army because I wanted to save money and I had within the year same deceleration of the British
How come you dont have any private investment?
Does what religion you have influence what the Religious Interest Group wants?
Streamer luck right, normally you have to cheese the opening by declaring on British subject
What? You mean an AI British PM doesn’t care about opening cheese markets? Soon you will be claiming that they won’t impose economic sanctions on themselves…
Never make the streams. Would be nice if your CZcams also had cam
ALSO WHY CAN'T YOU PRIVATIZE ALREADY BUIULT INDUSTRY.
Why are you yelling?
WHY CAN YOU BUILDBANKS THE FOUGOT TO LET YOU DO THAT.
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