Ride1UP LMT'D Review | Electric Commuter Bike
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
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The Ride1UP LMT’D is a city bike of a different feather. It features a powerful motor to deliver it to a Class 3 maximum speed of 28 mph, a battery good for a full 50 mi. of riding on a single charge, and rather than a cadence sensor, it includes a torque sensor to give riders a more natural experience.
Torque sensors are uncommon on e-bikes in the $1500-$2000 price range; they are much more common on e-bikes with mid-drive motors. With a torque sensor, an e-bike’s motor responds immediately and will also respond proportionally to the rider’s effort, making the way the e-bike accelerates and slows much more natural feeling.
The parts pick on the Ride1UP LMT’D includes hydraulic disc brakes with 180mm rotors, an 8-speed Shimano drivetrain that offers enough high end to reach 28 mph and enough low end to get over steep hills.
The LMT’D is offered in two different frames and they are different enough in size that it will cover a broad range of rider heights. And shod with quick-rolling WTB tires, the Ride1UP LMT’D accelerates quickly and remains calm and graceful at speed.
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0:00 Ride1UP LMT'D Review
1:00 Ride1UP LMT'D Overview
3:51 Specs
9:06 Brake Test
10:35 Circuit Test
12:44 Battery / Range Test
15:05 Motor / Hill Test
17:20 Ride1UP LMT'D Review Conclusion - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Now that I have a bike with a torque sensor I’ll never buy another one without it
I have the LMT'D w/torque sensor and it was a factor in my decision. There is no engineering or physics basis for this, but the public seems to perceive the torque sensor as a better option. My advice on this question of torque vs cadence sensor is: if you like pedaling harder to get more help, go for the torque sensor. If you would rather your ebike give you consistent help regardless of how hard you pedal, go for the cadence sensor. For example, I find I use the throttle for help maintaining speed on the hills. This would not be necessary if my LMT'D had a cadence sensor. I would have been happy with either sensor, but I admit I like the natural feel of a torque sensor.
Torque sensor is very important. I won't buy a bije without one
I chose the 2023 LMT'D XR specifically for its torque sensor. For one, it makes cranking it out on the LMT'D as natural as peddling a non-powered traditional bike. Second, it is a must have for anyone that wants peddling exercise WITH fine grained control (via menu) to dial in the exact peddling effort for each PAS level.
@ EBR, I too prefer a percent remaining "battery level" indicator. Turns out there is a menu selection for changing it from voltage to percent display. In the menu for Display Setting, SOC View, Voltage --> Percent.
Torque all the way.
I have the LMTD and with the new silent motor, it is fantastic! Don't know why this is not regarded the best bike out there!
Just got my LMT'D assembled and did a 10 mile test ride. The AKM motor is impressive, very quiet, and powerful. It is difficult to hear the motor at all, in the lower PAS levels. Love it.
I like the way you changed the brake test. It's a more accurate way the average person would brake hard. As far as your up hill test. Put it back the old way. I want to hear how hard the bike and rider are working. I can tell alot from sound. Everyone can be a little biased, but dosent matter if we see and hear the test in real time.
This bike is a great value (I have a late 2020 version, which reached 2000mi on its odometer today). Besides the air fork, torquey hub motor (100Nm versus 65-85Nm on most competitors) for the price range, hydraulic brakes with motor cutoffs (mine doesn’t have this), it is also lighter than most similar e-bikes at 53lbs versus the usual 65-85lb.
As far as geometry, it feels stable at speed and nimble for an ebike. The 2.4in wide tires are a good compromise between ride comfort, handling and impact absorption. They’re not quite up to floating atop snow or loose dirt.
I noticed the new ones come with a pair of torque arms rather than the tabbed washers mine came with. They’re much better at protecting the frame dropouts from being damaged by the torquey motor. I contacted customer support yesterday and they are sending a complimentary set my way!
Ahhh! Beautiful St. George, UT! We were there last weekend (with our LMT’Ds, of course) and had a blast riding Snow Canyon, West Canyon, Cottonwood Wash, and Hell Hole.😍 Thanks for the great review and awesome scenery! Hubs and I love these amazing bikes. We sold our expensive Specialized e-bikes to buy these…no comparison in the fun factor!
Pros: Power delivery is refined and smooth, and the torque sensor makes the hub feel almost as responsive as a mid drive. The drive train is well-geared and shifting is responsive and quick. For hills around town the LMT'D climbs just fine...like you saw in the video it's middle-of-the-pack. Cons: I have the step-thru and notice longitudinal instability (wobble) due to the lack of top crossbar. I haven't ever felt the wobble is unsafe. I also notice that my incredibly light front end feels a bit too light and can come off the ground a bit under certain circumstances, causing reduced traction. My rear dropouts are not perfectly aligned, which means it is a bit trickier to remove/replace the rear tire in the event of a flat. Ride1Up says the misalignment is small and normal. Power delivery suffers from a small maybe 2 second overrun (power stays on after you stop pedaling). Overall the LMT'D step-thru is a super-smooth, useful commuter ebike.
I own this e-bike, bought it last summer.
For the money this is a great value. I did add some modifications, mostly raising the handlebar height, using a longer bar and replaced the hand grips. Raising the bar makes for a much more comfortable ride and reduces strain on the lower back. I agree with other comments here, the rider in the video is too large for the "stock" configuration. I'm a shade under 6 feet tall but with the modifications I've made the bike is the perfect size.
I'm using this as a commuter ride, around 5 miles daily. I ride in heavy traffic and can usually beat my time to and from work when riding.
I usually ride at the 3rd setting which will maintain 28-mph if you put some consistent effort into your peddling.
This is a fantastic e-bike and I highly recommend any viewers who are interested to visit their website.
PS. I assembled the bike myself. While I'm no bicycle mechanic the assembly was easy and the instructions provided adequate detailed information
how can I do this? Raising the bar makes for a much more comfortable ride and reduces strain on the lower back.
Look for either a stem riser (this clamps onto the fork’s steerer tube and your existing stem clamps to the riser) or an adjustable stem (replaces the existing stem).
I did the former and it does wonders for avoiding lower back pain and makes watching passing scenery much easier, at the expense of more air resistance.
I have had my Ride1UP LMT'd step-over since fall 2022 and am really happy with it. It has the performance and features in the price range I was looking for. I ride quite a bit with our small group of friends who also have ebikes. It is a lot of fun and I have had no issues or complaints. I would buy this same one again.
Thanks for your thorough reviews. I spent a lot of time watching your reviews before I bought the LMT'D for Christmas 2022. Your reviews and performance tests helped me understand what I wanted and what to look for when test-riding and buying an e-bike. I find your comments to be accurate and consistent with my experience with my LMT'D. I am an R&D engineer, tend to be demanding of my tools/equipment, and I absolutely love this bike. I would highly recommend it. Because I want it as a commuter, I added fenders and a back rack. On longer rides, I found the saddle to be a little uncomfortable on my sit bones and am upgrading my seat post accordingly. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Glad you're enjoying it, David! Thanks for sharing!
How tall are you? I’m interested in the sizing of the step through vs the regular frame. Thank you!
@@KeepNashvilleFriendly 5` 9"
Hey Thanks another great video brother. Beside the cafaracer this is the bike for me
Hey guys. Thanks for doing these reviews. I just rode the Aventon Pace 500.3 and was impressed by the torque sensor performance. Very cool. I did not like the handle bars. The grips seem pretty tight together. How are the handlebar spacing compared to the 500.3?. I did not care for the non-suspension fork of the Aventon. How is the quality compared between the two brands? Which did you like better? How about the LMTD compared to the Ride1up Prodigy? Thanks
Beautiful frame and insane range.
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Well you have to ride it and study it, and remember the sensor is an assistant
Thanks.
I missed this before, but you can change the readout for the battery between voltage and percentage remaining. I prefer voltage as it’s a better indicator of how much energy remains and how hard I can push the bike.
You can even adjust the relationship between voltage and percentage, as I did (I don’t like it showing 100% for as long as it does).
I have a LMT'D and love it! The torque sensor is far better than a cadence sensor, and more energy efficient too. If you want full power on/off and
more 'jerkiness" with less effort, get a cadence sensor, if you want a more natural biking feel with just a bit of extra effort, the torque sensor is the way to go, IMHO.
Thank you
Aventon 2.0 or LMTD??????
Just reading comments about size and this bike.
I'm just under 6 feet tall and had to modify the handlebar ride height to provide me with a more upright and comfortable riding position. The "stock" bike would have been OK but I've got a bad lower back and would have been in a poor riding position. In my opinion anyone over 6 feet tall will most likely have to modify this to ride comfortably. This is not a racing bike and as such the ideal position would be more upright. With my modifications the bike would most likely be comfortable for riders up to 6'3 - 6'4. I would not purchase this if I was taller. Taller riders really need to look for severe customization for comfortable riding. I have a brief description below of how I raised the bar height.
On a side note: Raising the height has not affected stability, safety or handling. Ride one up makes a fantastic product, it's easy to modify and easy to ride. (Just wish the battery life was longer)
Is this bike large enough for someone that is 6'7? or too small?
you mention the thumb trigger for acceleration, but what are the + and - buttons on the side of the display?
for increasing and decreasing your PAS levels
I’m surprised your speed on PAS 5 was only about 22mph. I find it easy to cruise at 25mph on top assist. 28mph takes a bit of work though. It’s amazing how much more air drag affects you with only another 3mph.
I did find when changing the number of PAS levels in the settings menus, the %motor output value for the top assist level would be only 91 or 93%, with it being 99% when set to 3 PAS levels. Seems a bit odd the default values for top assist levels so low. When I settled on the number of PAS levels I felt satisfied with, I changed the settings for each level, and, of course, set the highest level to maximum motor output! 😁
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It’s because of his feet placement
Keep in mind that is the average MPH from a dead stop and it's not a perfectly flat course either. It peaked close to 28 mph for sure.
The riding footage is general, and not captured on the test. That was just me in cruiser mode :)
Test rider height? It seems this bike will be ideal for someone below 6'0". The geo numbers seems to bear that out with a fairly small reach figure of 370mm. I ride bikes with as kuch as 500mm reach, so this has to feel pretty cramped for my 6'1" frame unless a longer stem was installed.
I'm trying to talk my parents into picking up something like this, but kinda want to get myself one. Also looking at some clearance deals on Specialized mid-drives...so I dunno.
How tall is the reviewer? I am 5' 7" and I prefer the XR set up, but I'm concerned that it will be too big for me.
How loud is the motor? I have a fat bike with the 1000 watt Bafang and it sounds like a yard full of cats in heat , very annoying . I am over clumsy fat bike tires also . 27.5 tires way nicer ride and more efficient .
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I bought a late 2020 version of he LMT’d. The motor is quiet for a geared hub motor on higher assist settings and noisy at low settings, probably because of how the controller manages power to the motor. I’ve seen and read multiple reviews saying the current version’s motor is much quieter than the one I’ve got on mine.
Other things improved: brake levers (now have motor cutoffs), torque arms (2j versus tabbed washers to protect the dropouts from getting spread open or stripped by the high torque motor, bridge of fork now supports front fender and rack, integrated front light.
What they compromised on: they went down one level on the Shimano derailleur. Mine has an Alivio. The current one has an Altus. I don’t think there’s a big difference between those two.
I have the newest version and the new motor is incredibly quiet.
My 2023 LMT'D XR came with the new AKM motor. I can't even hear it run while peddling on the lower PAS levels. And it's difficult to hear on the highest PAS level with the 28 ~ 30 MPH wind noise in my ears:o)
Lol! I had the Luna X1 with the Bafang m600, and even quieted down with the plastic gear it was still noisier than I would have liked. With the normal metal gears I understand that Bafangs are a little noisy. The motor on my late 2022 LMT'D is super quiet; noticeably quieter than my Lectric and quieter than my Rad. I agree with you on the fat tire fad; over it. The brand-name tires you get with the LMT'D are perfect.
I purchased the 31.8 x 110 mm stem.
Nice!
Has to be torque sensing for me.
Ride1Up LMTD vs Acento level 2?
I'm having a really hard time deciding between the Velotric Nomad 1 ($1,400) or a Ride1Up LMT'D ($1,700)... Cadence vs Torque Sensor and 53lbs (LMT'D) vs 72lbs. Also considering a Denago Fat, Juiced RipCurrent S or maybe even a Biktrix Juggernaut hub or Ultra, all step through since I'm short @ 5'7" with 28.5" inseam and a bad back. Thoughts? I do have a Velotric dealer 30 min from me so I may test ride this weekend.
You may not like the speed-based PAS of the Velotric. It feels less natural and may cause you to lose control of the bike under certain circumstances like riding on slippery surfaces or in tight slow maneuvers. Test ride one to be sure it is acceptable to you. I’ve an Espin Nesta with this and it feels dangerous riding in slush with the surges of power versus the current-based cadence system of my Lectric or the torque sensor of my LMT’d. I got thrown off twice at low speed due to getting over 900W of power to the 85Nm motor at low speed before I increased the number of PAS levels and drastically reduced the speed targets of the lowest levels.
But the Velotric has UL certification.
Now that this is basically the same MSRP as the 700 series, which would you recommend? My thoughts is it's easier to add a rack and fenders than it is a torque motor, so this one is now the better long term value.
Both are great. LMTD feels a bit more natural, 700 feels a bit more planted/faster. Go with your gut, either are good choices and you'll have a good time.
Finer control (especially at low speed in tight maneuvers), lower mass and greater nimbleness versus easier time riding at 28mph in class 3 mode.
Can you use third-party fenders and rack or can you only use Ride1Up parts?
I installed a Ride1Up rear fender and a clip-on front fender (fork lacks a mounting hole for the fender) and an old Topeak rear rack on my gen2 LMT’d.
I'm 5' 10" with 29" inseam...is the XR version going to be too large to stand comfortably over the cross bar? The Ride1up spec sheet has the 29" point pretty close to the seat and the cross bar goes to ~40" near the handle bar junction. Maybe the Step Thru version might be an easier fit, but it doesn't have a Black Friday price....thx!
You may. My inseam is 32in and it’s very close.
It's this bike or the Aventon Level.2 for me. How aggressive does the seating position feel? I don't want it to be too cruiser-ish cause my a$$ gets sore faster. The Aventon Level.2 looks more aggressive but might have a harder time on the hills where I'm at, "Omahill" Nebraska, so I'm torn on my two choices.
I doubt you would notice a difference in hill-climbing ability between the two. I have the LMT'D and it feels pretty average in hill-climbing. Some of the hill-climbing performance comes from the controller; how much juice and how quickly it hits the motor. The LMT'D's controller is tuned to feel smooth and subtle, which is nice. But overall it doesn't blow the socks off my old Rad, Lectric, or Paselec hub bikes.
Good bike but if they aimed for a 40-45lbs package even if it requires cutting a battery a bit and 500w motor this would be sick.
Compared to something like the pedego ridge rider $3k. Which is the better bike?
We haven't ridden the Ridge Rider so we couldn't say. LMT'D is great though
I’ve been looking at this bike for a while as my first ebike. I notice on their website that the motor is now listed as having 95 nm of torque where it was previously listed as having 100 nm. Not that 5 nm is that big of a deal but I just wondered does anyone know if they changed motors. I guess I could ask Ride1up.
It comes now with an AKM motor, super quiet. Customer feedback was the previous motor was loud. Now it is is silent! Love, love this motor!
@@pddellow thank you Patricia for the info ! I need to pull the trigger on this. I hate I missed their Black Friday Sale they were $1490 I believe. They have them now for $1590. Still not a bad deal.
@@PLAZALOT58 There's a spring sale on now, $1495 for the LMT'D. Just got mine delivered and assembled this past week (04/15). The AKM motor on mine is stamped 125RX RC750A-4827.5. Very quiet, I can't even hear it run while peddling on the lower PAS levels. And it's difficult to hear on the highest PAS level with the 28 ~ 30 MPH wind noise in my ears:o)
@@hamradiobug I noticed that. I really should get one now. Glad you got yours I’m sure you will enjoy it. And thanks for the review, it’s good to hear the motor is quiet!
@@hamradiobug Nice. My brand new Limited is at the bike shop getting assembled. Can't wait to take it out on its maiden journey.
I purchased two bikes. A Lmtd and a 700 series. The 700 is fine, but the Lmtd lost a bunch of rear spokes
(I’ve rode it less than 200 miles), rendering the bike unridable. The company says I’m out of luck.
Dang, sounds like they weren’t tensioned correctly. Had the same issue with my first ebike’s rear wheel. Sounded like a cheap harp when the spokes plucked each other as I rode. That’s not a good sound, though it is entertaining until you understand why they are making noise.
Replace the spokes and have a bike shop properly tension them.
Does the LMTD come with a headlight?
Yes. But no taillight
Like the bike, but looks too small for the reviewer, Griffen, or anyone his size. As a tall person (6'4") this is my big beef with ebike manufacturers who claim "one size fits all". Perhaps that can be true if your riding style is to sit upright and let the bike do all the work, but otherwise the ergonomics are way off for someone, for instance, as large as Griffen. Check out time stamp 3:25 and tell me that for him the bike it not too small to actually be ridden as a bike. My 2 cents.
I don't think it's *too* bad of a size mismatch for him, but I do agree with your broader point - one size bike can't really fit all, at least not fit all well. People who are near average size probably don't need to worry too much, but absolutely, if you're 5ft2in or 6ft4in, that one size bike probably won't fit you well. For bike makers, it's a way saving money. I do wish they'd do more to serve customers better, but I think many companies are small companies on a shoestring budget. The bigger companies though - and I'm looking at you, Rad Power Bikes - should do better. Aventon used to provide 3 sizes on their e-bikes, but they've reduced to 2 sizes now - still better than 1 size for all.
We also agree with the larger point you're making, Joe. Those on the margins can certainly get by, but it won't feel like a tailored fit by any means. FWIW, in all the miles I (Griffin here) logged on this bike I didn't feel ideally comfortable, but I wouldn't say I was uncomfortable either.
To Barry's point, indeed many companies haven't fully gotten to the place where it's economical to offer multiple sizes and a one-size-fits most approach is logical in earlier stages. We'd welcome additional sizes for sure, but most e-bike companies are in their early stages of existence still and until there is a bit more growth it's challenging to deliver affordability and optionality.
True. At that time stamp it does look like he's big guy/small bike. I'm 5'10" and my Step Thru is being put together. I hope I won't need to make many mods to get comfortable.
Does anyone know if this is a good bike to have a child seat in the rear? What other bike do you recommend? I don't want an overly huge bike to just carry one child.
I use a Topeak rear rack but I’ve carried over 40lbs on my LMT’d. It behaves like any hardtail bike with additional weight over its rear wheel. The tail will sway sideways more as you pedal. Practice with something like a large bag of pet food, litter, rice etc. to get used to the handling before putting your kid back there and you’ll quickly learn how to reduce the swaying.
@@chow-chihuang4903 thanks for the tips!!
What kind of commuter doesn't come with fenders? Not everyone lives in the desert
UL certified?
As far as we are aware, the LMT'D is not currently UL Certified
@@ElectricBikeReport Thank you
yea uhh 22mph on PAS 5.... thats way off from what this bike can achieve. More like 28mph. Sounds like someone wasnt pedaling hard enough
Trying to simulate the average pace of most people. Anything can get to 28 mph if you pedal hard enough :)
25mph is easy to sustain on this bike for me but 28 takes some work!
The amount of control a torque sensor system provides is worth it though. I only need to ride at 28mph on roads where I have to ride in truck and car traffic, which is too often for my liking. It is slooooowly getting better as separated paths get connected, but mostly in the neighboring city rather than my township, whose elected leaders are mostly vehemently against anything not supporting car dependency and convenience. One claims to support improving cycling and pedestrian infrastructure, but doesn’t try very hard at it.
@@chow-chihuang4903
22mph would be more suitable for pas 4 not 5.Doing 22mph on pas 5 is almost no effort. May as well just integrate throttle only.
After riding a all wheel bike , rear wheel will not do .